How Social Media Changes Your Mind

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verilybitchie

verilybitchie

Жыл бұрын

CW: Its gonna be intense, we're not just talking about the Amber Heard/Johnny Depp trial either, we're talking about like fascism and death and stuff too so. Be warned.🤖
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@verilybitchie
@verilybitchie Жыл бұрын
Take care of yourself after watching this, yeah?
@Princess_Weekes
@Princess_Weekes Жыл бұрын
@Vennele
@Vennele Жыл бұрын
Your videos are like a therapy session for my stormy mind. ✨
@squashfei8907
@squashfei8907 Жыл бұрын
You should make the audios of your videos into podcasts(if you want). There’s a lot of people who I want to share these messages with who probably won’t want to sit down and watch a whole video but would be willing to listen if it was in a podcast format.
@xeno_dork
@xeno_dork Жыл бұрын
Hi. Thank you for the exceptionally researched and presented video. Also, your hair is very lovely.
@LuLu98J
@LuLu98J Жыл бұрын
on my way to listen to Beyoncé - Break My Soul right now to release the stress (and engage to social media content and be a consumer of corporation autocracy even further...?? Oh god! LOL)
@beatotheelder6170
@beatotheelder6170 Жыл бұрын
This trial has been a constant source of disgust for me, it has been near impossible to avoid it no matter how many times I click “Not Interested” or unsubscribe from people taking advantage of it. Glad to hear someone with a conscience discuss this as a whole.
@Pimp.My.Forklift
@Pimp.My.Forklift Жыл бұрын
The "not interested" button on youtube does absolutely nothing, there has been many times I used it, reloaded the page and immediately got recommended the same video again
@goodvibes1525
@goodvibes1525 Жыл бұрын
EXACTLY!
@ollieno971
@ollieno971 Жыл бұрын
Same omg
@aratinatophat1072
@aratinatophat1072 Жыл бұрын
Kuncan Dastner has a great video on it and it was near the beginning of it all too
@snowlied
@snowlied Жыл бұрын
same oh my god, I literally deleted Instagram because that was the only way to not see it lol.
@anny_draws3023
@anny_draws3023 5 ай бұрын
In Russia we had a similar case when an underage girl was raped at the party and the family of the rapist went on the national television.THE WHOLE COUNTRY was straight up denying the fact that the girl was raped and she even became a meme because of the way she spoke and dressed herself. So many people defended the rapist because he had "kind eyes" and the girl and her family were bullied so much that they had to change multiple jobs and living locations because they got attacked.The girls name is Diana Shurygina
@phoney2627
@phoney2627 5 ай бұрын
Damn saying that really suck would be an understatement. I googled this case and managed to find a photo of both the girl and the rapist and he did not have kind eyes I don't know what his defenders are on.
@joshraid1550
@joshraid1550 4 ай бұрын
@@phoney2627They see a white man in conflict with a woman and immediately feel bad for the man and imagine he’s an uwu soft boy victim. If this was a large black dude he’d have been publicly murdered in court even if she was lying.
@user-nt2kc2tk5k
@user-nt2kc2tk5k 4 ай бұрын
Как только услышала о ситуации с Херд и Деппом, сразу вспомнила это, как жаль что в россии, все также винят жертв
@kaeya8674
@kaeya8674 4 ай бұрын
My fuckin gawd
@joshraid1550
@joshraid1550 4 ай бұрын
​@@randomusername3873 Huh? What did I say to make you think this? If this is about amber heard, then you should know that johnny Depp has a lengthy history of abusing women and amber heard does not.
@kellynaz9256
@kellynaz9256 Жыл бұрын
As a dv and rape victim, who reported their perpetrator only 6 months ago, I was trying so fucking hard to avoid the trial but despite my effort to avoid it, I still saw the trial EVERYWHERE. It was such bullshit. What made it even worse is that the person who did this to me, and their family, are currently building a narrative in which im the "mentally ill psycho ex" and hoping that my abuser will get away with committing crimes. Trials like this, about this topic should never have been televised. I'm so scared now that nobody will believe me. I constantly have anxiety that I won't get justice, that he will get away with it. And seeing the trial, though the situation is different in that, was really horrible since its about dv. I hated the constant stream of misogyny from a lot of men, disguised as activism.
@julierohde7625
@julierohde7625 Жыл бұрын
Have had the exact same experience. Hope you get your justice.
@sennnia
@sennnia Жыл бұрын
The reason I didn't report...
@Imbroglia
@Imbroglia Жыл бұрын
im so sorry for you
@alliewankenobi
@alliewankenobi Жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry you had to experience that. I completely agree with you though. The public's response to this trial was pretty disturbing. I'm not siding with Amber, but I've never seen people bash a celebrity like they have with her. It gave men the excuse to just be so misogynistic, and get away with it because most of the general public agreed with them. I just feel like it's gonna be harder for victims of dv, specifically women, to come forward now because they'll be afraid that they'll be vilified by everyone. I truly hope that you see justice someday.
@ash_tray
@ash_tray Жыл бұрын
Also a DV & rape victim myself. Wish I could hug you. I’m so sorry :(
@666kittycat666
@666kittycat666 Жыл бұрын
This reminds me of when my mum was complaining that refugees now would get a faster track to government sponsored housing and she wondered aloud why it wasn't given to native people here first to which I literally had to tell her "mum, they're refugees....". I explained to her how upset it made me that it's always framed in such a us versus them type thing while it's absolutely absurd that we are forced to fight with refugees over scraps.
@angelikaskoroszyn8495
@angelikaskoroszyn8495 Жыл бұрын
I have similar feelings. My first instict is to feel angry because it's unfair they're getting special treatment while many people in my country have been suffered for decades. But then I remember that it's not refugees' fault that our system is inherently unfair. They're "lucky" because their suffering is shocking enough to wake up our society a bit. Meanwhile people living in generational powerty are the norm Like people are more shocked by terrorist attacks than high suicide rates because one is rare and (I hate to use the word) exciting while the other is just daily occurence. It doesn't matter that one is less deadly than another If you add the fact that certain refugees are treated better than others because they're running away from a war close to us - it's difficult to not lose any hope in humanity
@666kittycat666
@666kittycat666 Жыл бұрын
@@tinnagigja3723 for real. I straight up had arguments with people who were convinced that refugees get a €1.000 in cash by right wing politicians. They don’t. That’s the budget of the accommodations and needs like food for refugee per month. It’s not a lot of money for those things. If that’s the amount spent I can tell you they’re not living the high live. My mum even tried to push back against it asking me if I wouldn’t find it unfair if I were homeless and someone else took the house I could’ve gotten to which I had to reiterate; “I’d rather not be a refugee”.
@hayley4032
@hayley4032 Жыл бұрын
I agree, it isn't really fair But governments just decide to save face ig
@666kittycat666
@666kittycat666 Жыл бұрын
@@hayley4032 The worst thing about it is that we're a wealthy, west-european country. We built a trade empire through colonialisation and the riches it still brings us. We have the means to take care of people, but over the last 30 years healthcare has been privatised, socalwellfare has been slashed, elderly care is down the drain and people with disabilities better pray they're born in a wealthy family that have the means to take care of them. Rightwing politicians have pointed the finger to immigrants, muslims and refugees but they're not the cause, they're victims of the system just like the rest of us.
@decoraqueena6413
@decoraqueena6413 Жыл бұрын
Yep, we're definitely fighting over scraps. The media has done a good job of convincing us that living in a counsel house in a god forsaken neighbourhood, living on welfare checks is high living. Meanwhile the higher ups are living comfortably, wiping their cracks with $100 bills knowing that the dumb masses are envying the poor and displaced instead of them.
@ash_tray
@ash_tray Жыл бұрын
“We’re all being served lies all day long and we all think we know better than everyone else.” That really hit me. We all think we’re on the good side, and that the other side is in the wrong. It’s just a tool being used to keep us looking at each other, blaming each other, not looking up and seeing why they’re doing. We’re all being lied to.
@paulhammond6978
@paulhammond6978 Жыл бұрын
I think there was a lot of nuance in verity's point that a lot of these people and social media organisations are not really doing this because they are specifically evil, or because they are pushing one or another political side, but because there's money in it, and engagement is the way to maximise profits, and because it's just the case that for humans anger and polarisation is the easiest way to generate engagement, so you have to do something harder than the easiest thing if you want to make social media better.
@SLYKM
@SLYKM Жыл бұрын
Really appreciate when people are honest about how vitriolic that pop culture madness can get. Especially since it's a defamation case and not a criminal trial.
@kyradreamer4769
@kyradreamer4769 Жыл бұрын
Personally, I don't even agree with the way we idolize celebrities in the first place. I think it's inherently bad so finding people who are willing to recognize how harmful the results of things like this are is such a relief at the very least.
@kittykittybangbang9367
@kittykittybangbang9367 Жыл бұрын
Remember how 2000s media treated Britney Spear? It was horrible
@paulhammond6978
@paulhammond6978 Жыл бұрын
@@kyradreamer4769 This video was all about the wider issues, really. I mean, the Depp-Heard case is a high-profile instance of how social media monetises the worst aspects of human curiosity, but the point of it is the structures of how social media works these days, and how people are incentivised to do things badly and in ways that are ultimately harmful to all of us.
@kyradreamer4769
@kyradreamer4769 Жыл бұрын
@@paulhammond6978 Yeah, I got that. My initial point is that the vast majority of people don't recognize that something is wrong in the first place, and the secondary thought I had to that was about the notion of celebrities as a whole. I was never interested in famous people (not as a child and not once since), which definitely shapes my perspective, but I do think that the way we idolize random people in the first place and shower them with wealth is bad and that needs to be recognized when people seek entertainment. Giving people power and influence Because they happen to have the right connections and a little bit of skill doesn't sit right with me, and we have seen the repercussions repeatedly. Most people like celebrities, even when something bad that they did gets out, and it's refreshing to see the occasional person criticizing the situation at all instead of capitalizing on it, which goes back to what you said about social media running on the worst parts of human curiosity. Essentially, I'm tired of the content I have to go out of my way to avoid, and even if I think the criticism and reflection of these issues could be expanded on, it's a breath of fresh air to come across them at all.
@paulhammond6978
@paulhammond6978 Жыл бұрын
@@kyradreamer4769 Oh, absolutely. I think that the whole idolising of celebrities in the first place is pretty unhealthy, and that got amped up by the rise of reality TV from the early 2000s on (again, that's not necessarily *evil*, but it was TV that was cheap to make, and became wildly engaging, in that case because of the interaction with the audience by phone voting, which of course encouraged the audience to pick favourites who they are going to vote for).
@jonreededworthy7518
@jonreededworthy7518 Жыл бұрын
I will never understand why it is I'm supposed to think Johnny Depp is a decent human being just because he was sort of funny in those pirate films
@TransbelleGwen
@TransbelleGwen 9 ай бұрын
Not even funny he’s just femboy Will Ferrell
@Mapachonista
@Mapachonista 8 ай бұрын
I will never understand why it is I'm supposed to believe that Amber Heard is a victim only because of her gender.
@theMyRadiowasTaken
@theMyRadiowasTaken 6 ай бұрын
​@@TransbelleGwennew combination of words just dropped
@alabamaslammer3921
@alabamaslammer3921 6 ай бұрын
That's how I feel these days. I didn't know this until after the trial but he had started a relationship with Winona Ryder when he was 27 and she was *17*. Not to mention that it's common celebrity practice for older guys trying to move minors to other states where they can legally marry them. Even if he is a victim, that doesn't mean he's a good guy or he's some fricking saint
@Connor17199
@Connor17199 5 ай бұрын
It's probably not because he was sort of funny and moreso that there's no evidence he did anything to anything other than his kitchen cupboard doors, whilst there is plenty of evidence of her lying (unless she's a time traveller) and admitting to hitting him
@nonononothere
@nonononothere Жыл бұрын
As a person who unfortunately lives in russia during a war started by, well, russia, i sure can see all the misinformation, clickbait and straight up lies spread out to boost engagement. Even opposition movement media is affected by it. Sad thing is: people do not tend to check their sources and even if you are interested in any topic you are literally bombarded with random info from everywhere, starting from innocent cat video channels ending with serious politics channels. It is exhausting.
@redElim
@redElim Жыл бұрын
No different here in Germany. Полная жопа
@nonononothere
@nonononothere Жыл бұрын
@Agent Bubble honestly? I blame us, the civilians, because we let this country become what it is now. We let it become a predator who feasts on its citizens and preys on its neighbours. But well i have avpd so i tend to blame myself for everything so maybe it's just that and i'm not right at all. Anyway. Thank you for your kind words. I hope you and your loved ones are safe. Героям слава!
@nonononothere
@nonononothere Жыл бұрын
@Agent Bubble idk, at least we could be less passive about it or not let propaganda to take over our media. Idk. It's easier to blame ourselves so at least it seems like we used to have some level of control. Maybe we didn't, sure, but it is scary to admit.
@meow-fm2jv
@meow-fm2jv Жыл бұрын
@@nonononothere i'm ukrainian too, and i don't have anything clear to say on this at the moment. it's really hard to figure out all of that, i'm pretty young and i was never deep into history or politics so i'm still learning but i want to share my opinion. i don't think it's as simple as "you don't have fair elections", while that is ofc true you can't just pretend people have nothing to do with this. honestly i was disappointed at how so many russians reacted to war. i know it's not all, but it's clear that the public is not just the victims too. everyone suffers from the government's actions, and has been for years, and people have been fed propaganda for years too. and the mentality was shaped by all of that too. and i don't know how much i can blame people, but i don't think it's acceptable to support this war, no matter what, to even excuse it. there are reasons why things are like this, but they're not excuses. but what really matters is, what needs to be done for the best. i don't think it's that important who's fault it is really. i just want to live i want to be happy i want to have a good life and i want other people to have it too. what really matters is to prevent suffering as much as possible, to reduce destruction and violence. but anyways, i think the situation in russia depends on people there for sure, the people in power would be nothing without the population. they're stealing from people and ruining people's lives, everywhere. i'm not sure if i blame the civilians, it's a whole group, it's a mass. but. i do not blame you specifically or any individual civilian for all of this. you as one person cannot be responsible for the whole population. you cannot control them. and i don't expect you to. i also don't expect you to risk your life or health trying to make a difference too. i can't put that on a person. i don't do everything either. i can't do much really, i'm undiagnosed but i believe i most likely have some sort of mental illness. and i said, i just want to live, i want to be able to have a good life someday. i blame myself too. maybe i am wrong. but either way, i think it's good that you're there. it's good that there are people who don't support or excuse genocide, who can look for truth and check info before forming beliefs. i believe you've done what you could. and i don't want to forget about humanity of people. i'm tired too. take care of yourself. дякую
@nonononothere
@nonononothere Жыл бұрын
@@meow-fm2jv people like you, young and innocent, are the reason i feel that it is important for at least some of russia dwellers to feel responsible and guilty. At least we can remind the Z-public what they are doing and what they are supporting. I am sorry you have to go through all this and please feel free to put responsibility on all the russians. As a russian i mean it. We need to be held responsible at least for something ffs. Also thank you for being so nice when you don't have to. Wish you and your close ones stay safe. Спасибо, что не хейтите, но вы правда не обязаны.( Тбх я сейчас в крошечном городке живу, и тут все этими zигами и колорадками обвешаны и славят п*тина, не обвинять их очень сложно.
@Kumaclaws
@Kumaclaws 5 ай бұрын
At the end of the day, social media rewards horrible behavior and apathy. Measured research is considered “cringe”, caring is “cringe”, and authenticity is “cringe” online. The only thing that matters is engagement and selling your products. It’s why everything is awful on the internet nowadays, why create and fuel your passion when you can just say something inflammatory and then plug your t-shirts or mugs for likeminded people?
@NawiTheCore
@NawiTheCore Жыл бұрын
No matter what side you stand on, the vitriol I've seen online has been absolutely disgusting. It is one thing to maybe not believe Amber's SA story, but it is a VERY different thing to make videos MOCKING it. Even if you don't think she's telling the true, it is heinous to mock someone like that for clicks and views. And then there's the whole conspiracy side of things, like those videos claiming she was snorting coke on the stand. Totally ridiculous for anyone with a working brain. As if she'd do with a judge a few inches away.
@TH0KH
@TH0KH Жыл бұрын
For real. Johnny supporters mocking Amber/labelling Amber supporters as man haters, and Amber supporters labelling Depp supporters as misogynists doesn't help anyone. It just makes both sides dig deeper into hating the other side and making aaaaaaaall the victims who see it more afraid to come forward.
@inthedriversseat928
@inthedriversseat928 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I felt like that should have applied to the court environment also. Seeing Johnny and his team laughing at witnesses on the stand and especially when Amber was describing being SA'd with a bottle. Whether she lied or not, they shouldn't have been allowed to mock her whilst she was testifying. The judge was very strict with the people in the gallery, but not with Johnny and his team. The memes have been absolutely vile. The TikToks are disgusting, especially the ones reenacting "scenes" from Amber's testimony. I'm disappointed by what I've seen, and I'm still getting anti-Amber videos recommended to me by KZfaq on the daily. As an abuse survivor, I hate the way she was forced to be the perfect victim, because for me there are still things I don't remember. I don't remember the chronology of everything that happened. I don't have any physical evidence of substance, and I would probably have lost in a trial like that. I fought back, and if my abuser had told me he was going to tell people I abused him, I would have laughed in his face and possibly have said exactly what Amber did. I think the way things played out has set a bad precedent for DV/IPV defamation trials going forward. I think the whole situation is very sad and tough for women and DV/IPV victims.
@Vivi-ux4wg
@Vivi-ux4wg Жыл бұрын
What people think is okay to do when they hate someone always baffles me. They hate someone for saying nasty things, but then go on and say nasty things to or about the person they hate. Don't they see the hypocrisy? It's like they think they are above the person they hate so everything is allowed now.
@SLYKM
@SLYKM Жыл бұрын
@@inthedriversseat928 right, the amount of confidence people have that she lied is disturbing because it is really easy to framed a liar bc of inaccuracies in retellings, that is so messed up. And yes, exactly, in the full recording, she didn't mean it in a "no one will believe I abused you, lol," it was more like she was laughing at the absurdity that people will look at what happened to them both and decide she was the main abuser. Funny thing is that it actually happened. What still bothers me is that no one has evidence she lied about SA. Most people site the doctored photos and the recording which as far as the recording goes has been grossly misrepresented in the trial.
@lemonade_011
@lemonade_011 Жыл бұрын
@@inthedriversseat928 I wish people just had the guts to change or at least get “help” and Too not believe everything the media sees :/ It just makes me so mad, I can’t stand how this planet works. That whole trail case, I avoided like the plague because it’s rough and just not right to watch and to get involved in facts we don’t know 🙌. I’m really struggling to understand humanity right now :/
@bitchenboutique6953
@bitchenboutique6953 Жыл бұрын
I had their names and every hashtag I could think of muted on Twitter, and STILL I COULD NOT ESCAPE IT. It was vomitous. I’m considering talking about it on my show just because it makes me so angry and things that make me angry do tend to be topic fodder, but… ugh.
@karak962
@karak962 Жыл бұрын
same, I literally just avoided social media for several days. it was horrifying. I'm so so so so happy to see someone talking about this. Much love from me!
@minoena
@minoena Жыл бұрын
twitter shows you things people you follow on twitter like so that could also be it. had a similar issue
@IkesPimpHand
@IkesPimpHand 9 ай бұрын
Men getting any degree of justice and equal treatment (although it wasn't even close,and only him being a millionaire ensured he got ANY at all) and women facing ANY degree of consequences for DV and false accusations is "vomitous" to you,huh?
@phoney2627
@phoney2627 5 ай бұрын
​@@IkesPimpHand I am all for men getting justice for being abused and the women who abused them getting what they deserve and to some level I was happy to see that people were calling out Amber Heard as much as they did. But the issue with this case is that neither of them are blameless, I'd argue that they're both abusive and bad for each other, but the internet made it such a black and white issue and if anyone brought any nuance to the conversation they got accused of not taking men's abuse seriously.
@IkesPimpHand
@IkesPimpHand 5 ай бұрын
@@phoney2627 I can understand your perspective, but you're absolutely wrong in this case. He was much nicer than she deserved, and the fact is that society's been so conditioned to handling women and their feelings like they are infants that even standing up for yourself against an abusive woman is seen as abusive. And this is me being kind, giving you the benefit of doubt by assuming you're coming at this with good but misguided intentions and not that of an insidious feminist looking to somehow minimise women's abuse and somehow make them "equal" in blame when it's not even close to the same ballpark.
@GentleRalts
@GentleRalts Жыл бұрын
i really do despise the meme-ification of the depp/heard trial. i moderate for a twitch streamer and the chat rules are general "don't be a bigot, don't bring up controversial topics and downer current events, etc etc" type stuff, and we had to remind a chat member that the trial was in fact a controversial topic and not to make jokes about it. they did stop and said something along the lines of "sorry about that, i thought it was fine because everybody loves johnny depp," and i feel like that's pretty exemplary of your whole childhood hero bit.
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. Жыл бұрын
In India, we had the same thing when a Mainstream Hindi Cinema Actor took his own life. Everyone became an investigative journalist and a source of video revenue.
@beth7935
@beth7935 Жыл бұрын
That's really horrible, but sadly believable.
@voodoomagic90
@voodoomagic90 Жыл бұрын
Ah yes. I remember this all too well and then it was all about bollywood and "inner circle drug whatsapp groups" among actors and what not. Utter rubbish that was diverting attention from the Farmers' Protests and The CAA protests.
@jessicafulton7089
@jessicafulton7089 Жыл бұрын
The Amber Johnny case is so socially sensitive and it’s weird how people are making edits, re-enacting the trial and I have even seen companies making merch off “iconic” quotes from the trial. It’s just insensitive and reflects how social media has desensitised everyone when it comes to serious topics Edit: do you think these celebrities should have a jury? On your point about biases within the jury, it is hard to find a jury who will avoid social media or situations in which the trial will be mentioned. For weeks on end, I had my family constantly talking about it to me, even though I was not following the trial on social media. Think the case should not have been publicised whatsoever.
@flicnerdy4385
@flicnerdy4385 Жыл бұрын
Also with famous people like actors I think many people would also find it hard to seperate the person from their content "Oh the funny pirate guy can't be that bad, right?"
@cazdoodle7737
@cazdoodle7737 Жыл бұрын
Seriously. How much can you wring out of "my dog stepped on a bee"
@flicnerdy4385
@flicnerdy4385 Жыл бұрын
@T What do you mean? The bottom was a hypothetical quote, not what I beleive.
@flicnerdy4385
@flicnerdy4385 Жыл бұрын
@T oh, ok. I didn't watch any of the trial because it's none of my business, so I didn't know she said that.
@dbzcupcake
@dbzcupcake Жыл бұрын
Celebrities don't get special treatment, or they shouldn't at least. Let's not forget at the beginning of this trial MOST people were on Ambers side until more and more information was given out. I really doubt this had much of an impact on the jury as 1) they had to be pre-screened anyways to ensure there was no bias 2) even if they had access to their phones they would have seen all those edits AFTER having sat through the trial all day. If ANYONE had any reason to be drained and bored of the topic I can't imagine after a whole day stuck in a court room I'd want to watch tiktoks about a few lines I heard hours ago. (Especially since some where just those crappy reenactments) That said it actually would have been pretty easy to avoid the Johnny Amber thing if you ACTUALLY wanted to. I already knew a lot of the details about it years before it went to court. Hell for personal reasons (not even big ones tbh) I HAD to be in Virginia around the midway point of the trial. I was like maybe a half hour away and I hadn't realized that the trial was even happening I had so little investment. It wasn't till around 4 days into my stay with the friend I was crashing with even mentioned it I realized it was happening. I feel like too many people live and breath the Internet now a days. I'm young but just have no fucks to give for celebrities. But even if I did who can sit through hours of court hearing and watch tiktoks about the same thing you just had drain away your day?
@smidge-J
@smidge-J Жыл бұрын
I always think of the saying "propaganda goes both ways." It's easy to see that the 'other' side is falling for propaganda and misinfo, but it's not so easy to see that in yourself.
@ChocookieMonster
@ChocookieMonster 9 ай бұрын
The same goes for this video - calling for people to look for "balanced" accounts and then showing only one side of the discussion felt VERY disingenious to me.
@farnregen
@farnregen 5 ай бұрын
Why is it so complicated man… i'm confused
@chiara.pugs4266
@chiara.pugs4266 4 ай бұрын
@@ChocookieMonster because nearly every other source is entirely pro-depp. If you view this video in the context of the discussion it's a part of, then it is quite balanced. You don't always have to argue for both sides in the same breath.
@gur262
@gur262 4 ай бұрын
​@@chiara.pugs4266i watched chunks of the trial with no edit. Sure not the entire thing. Maybe 🤔 I therefore missed something that's totally revolutionary. I don't have that impression though. I have the impression heard sucks. Depp? Well. An alcoholic, a mess. Sure. But that's not equal. There's that recording where amber insults him and his appearance which really sucks.
@jaybee4118
@jaybee4118 4 ай бұрын
@@gur262have a look into what the trial left out, what the judge disallowed (that makes no sense to have disallowed I’ll add). Have a look into the UK trial and why the judge in that trial came to the opposite conclusion. Have a look into the fact that the “psychological evaluation” for Heard was done without even meeting her, unethical at best. The fact some of his witnesses subtly changed their story, the witnesses that are on his payroll with exceptionally good salaries. Have a look at Depp’s texts where he jokes about r*** and murdering Heard, there’s plenty of examples of him saying wild things about her and his other ex’s. There’s some really disgusting bits about Vanessa Paradis. He has pages of texts where he insults plenty of people. And listen to longer sections of the recordings, a lot of the time she’s been clipped out of context. Maybe you’ll come away with a slightly different conclusion. I know I did.
@geekyhive
@geekyhive Жыл бұрын
I thought I was gonna watch a good video about Amber Heard/Johnny Depp trial, instead I watched a GREAT video about social media, and how it can literally change our futures in the worst way, and I'm not even talking about toxicity. You're amazing!
@nospoonfulofmayonnaiseforme
@nospoonfulofmayonnaiseforme Жыл бұрын
Mm same
@ellaocean
@ellaocean Жыл бұрын
one of the VERY WORST trend I saw with #that trial was WOMEN making videos reacting to Amber describing her s*x*al abuse. they were MOANING, making sexual suggestions. they were sick
@lordnokia4222
@lordnokia4222 5 ай бұрын
Sick in the head
@espeon871
@espeon871 5 ай бұрын
Fr like its just tactless and hurtful to SA victims
@akum270
@akum270 5 ай бұрын
those women are absolutely sick in the head and it's obvious they were never abused, good for them, but to make fun of the women that were abused... pure evil
@jaybee4118
@jaybee4118 4 ай бұрын
@@akum270sadly I know one woman that was r***d and abused that made fun of her. Unfortunately we’re no longer friends because she disliked that I questioned her on how she could do that. Even if she didn’t believe it, why make fun of it? It disturbed me.
@fightscrimewhilesleeping4024
@fightscrimewhilesleeping4024 Жыл бұрын
This is the first even slightly related "Amber Heard/Johnny Depp trial" content I've clicked on, and I have no regrets.
@ichliebebaeumeweilbaum
@ichliebebaeumeweilbaum Жыл бұрын
Same
@elainelouve
@elainelouve Жыл бұрын
Same
@enekaitzteixeira7010
@enekaitzteixeira7010 Жыл бұрын
It's absolutely wrong.
@mystic-malevolence
@mystic-malevolence Жыл бұрын
Real-time memeing about a domestic abuse/defamation trial was certainly some kind of low.
@Boahemaa
@Boahemaa Жыл бұрын
This analysis of social media was amazing. The blood thirsty nature of those who covered the trial disturbed me but people had picnics at lynchings so I should not be surprised.
@PokhrajRoy.
@PokhrajRoy. Жыл бұрын
There was a KZfaqr (not taking names) who talked about the inundation of content that can be displeasing but this person had no qualms making a spectacle out of the trial. Irony just died.
@LILY-bw5tq
@LILY-bw5tq Жыл бұрын
For real, I’ve seen multiple youtubers and content creators who previously stressed critical consumption of media/things you see on the internet and how it effects real life suddenly turn around and make strangely lighthearted or low-researched videos, streams, jokes, posts, etc. about the trial.
@ollieno971
@ollieno971 Жыл бұрын
Please tell me who I’m curious lol
@millyvanilly9542
@millyvanilly9542 Жыл бұрын
@@ollieno971 Hasanabi
@glitteryfaery5002
@glitteryfaery5002 Жыл бұрын
@@millyvanilly9542 of course it was him lmao
@teetee996112
@teetee996112 Жыл бұрын
@@millyvanilly9542 hasan literally said both were wrong and only talked about part of it. Very odd of you to try and point fingers at him while avidly consuming things about the trial.
@sweetprincess787
@sweetprincess787 Жыл бұрын
I became extremely sceptical of social media because during the pandemic I was having a hard time dealing with my mom, and I talked about it in private digital conversations and then later on tiktok there were a stream of videos of people complaining or joking about how toxic and abusive their moms were, and I was like... I never said my mom is toxic or abusive, I know the situation we're in is mainly because the both of us are highly stressed and this is not entirely her fault, and yeah, we started communicating better and going to therapy and we could figure it out, but I think that if I had carried on with what Tiktok was showing me, it would have been very easy to remain in conflict with her just because of an algorithm that feeds of the difficulties and the anger people feel
@basilmemories
@basilmemories Жыл бұрын
@T I mean, you also shouldn't trust google, facebook, youtube, twitter... pretty much any site that has a social media aspect and a half-decent coder team is actively trying to find the perfect little venn diagram of your interests, and to keep you engaged with them as long as possible. I personally hate tiktok because of the user interface and the lack of monitoring has led to some serious mgtow-level garbage on the platform, but the overarching idea of the video is that these algorithms are a problem in general, not platform-specific.
@basilmemories
@basilmemories Жыл бұрын
@T I mean, I'd be just as concerned that russian hackers and the alt-right used facebook's system to ultimately give the country to the despot trump who didn't care for our rule of law, but you do you I guess?
@rontheron4807
@rontheron4807 Жыл бұрын
Same thing here, post after post after post making everything a symptom of narcissism every time I texted friends that I was in disagreement with my parents when they are truly some of the best one could be blessed with. Content that raises awareness is super important, it's the fact that a single text can have you clocked by the algorithm as something you're not and overexposed to content that will influence you greatly that makes me crazy
@TigerPrawn_
@TigerPrawn_ 8 ай бұрын
Nothing on social media is truly private.
@krishafyme
@krishafyme 4 ай бұрын
Same, my parents are bit strict but I started seeing toxic abusive parents reels n felt I relateble then I was like no this is not that bad, it just normal but social media made me think they are that horrible, ik they aren't most not strict but the kind of videos I was watching was scary
@bulgna
@bulgna Жыл бұрын
Never mind those fanatics were also in the comments of everything. I could be watching a cat video and I'd see a comment saying how they wished the scratching pole was amber heard. The hate towards this woman was UNREAL. And her name is already being used by mysoginists to raise doubt against victims
@kaavyaramachandran5486
@kaavyaramachandran5486 Жыл бұрын
there was a video on the internet few years ago where a famous basketball player was caught on camera literally picking up and throwing his wife across the room and beating sh*tless her in front of their baby boy. that incident didn't receive even 0.0001 percent of the hate that this woman received. i do believe that amber was in the wrong and that she shouldn't be able to escape the consequences of her actions but my god. the lengths that people have gone to is just astonishing. and that was even before the verdict.
@alilweeb7684
@alilweeb7684 19 күн бұрын
Because she lied about being abused. She literally reaped what she sowed, and all the people that defended her because "trust all abuse victims" look how good it did now lmao. Yall defended a liar and now are mad when this example is used against you
@NoNameHereOrThere
@NoNameHereOrThere Жыл бұрын
I am a clinical psychologist and have just been disgusted by this whole trial. I know a bad BPD diagnosis when I see one, but the general public takes these at face value. Dr Curry looks well put together, she is the first to make a claim and essentially it is the one many people already want to believe. But to people who know how a diagnosis works? 14 hours with just a clinical interview and 2 tests and that is it? That is enough to claim someone has BPD to millions of people? You would interview people normally over months. The average amount of of tests used are 15. But the biggest issue is the MMPI-2 results. Dr Curry says she had heightened symptoms on the BPD profile. And alarm bells are already ringing...What is heightened? Why not reached the criteria for clinical diagnosis? Because we later find out from Dr Hughes her highest score was 56. There are 10 scales and to be diagnosed she had to have scored 65 on the 3 related to BPD. The mean score for a healthy adult is around 50 for the scales (48-54 range among them). The standard deviation is 9, so 68% of people would score between 41-59. So 56 would fit within the first standard deviation, so it is slightly above average on one scale. Heightened to me would be maybe between 59-65 at the least, in the top 14% but not clinically significant. But you still would not diagnose BPD with those scores. The average for someone diagnosed with a personality disorder is a lot higher than 65 as well, 65 is the minimum score and she had to have 3! Dr Curry can't claim it was because Amber was downplaying symptoms because this test includes a K-scale which corrects for that and then the scores would in the correction also have to be above 65. So to summarize, the test Dr. Curry used to diagnose her debunks her diagnosis. There is no way she should have been publicly diagnosed as that and people eat it up. But try to fit this into a tiktok or tweet and even if you manage you would likely still be attacked by fans of Depp. But remember, just because you are on on side, doesn't mean you have to accept everything from them even when they are not truthful.
@SimplyChloe_
@SimplyChloe_ Жыл бұрын
you're basing your distrust of Dr Curry on the testimony of Dr Hughes? even though she has several examples showing that she's biased/dishonest?
@NoNameHereOrThere
@NoNameHereOrThere Жыл бұрын
@@SimplyChloe_ If that score wasn't 56 Dr. Curry could have corrected her considering it was a test she administered herself. If that is the highest score on all scales, and the correction of the K scale doesn't reach 65 either, you cannot diagnose any personality disorder, it is basically all you need to know if you are already familiar with the MMPI-2. It is as if someone did an IQ test and scored a 95 and someone tries to pass that off as them being mentally challenged, when it is completely average, just slightly below the mean. There is no reason for me to trust Dr Curry if she can diagnose someone in front of millions with 2 stigmatized personality disorders and this is what she coughs up as her evidence. Dr Hughes is a much more experienced psychologist, she pretty much has the highest level of credentials you can receive and unlike Curry she is specialized in IPV. She even was an expert witness during the NXIVM trial and the R. Kelly trial. Dr. Curry has other troubles such as meeting a celebrity client at their home and having dinner with them. In any normal case she would have met lawyers at her office. There is audio where Depp is telling Heard she has BPD as well as him claiming '“She is a calculating, diagnosed borderline personality; she is sociopathic; she is a narcissist; and she is completely emotionally dishonest.” in the UK trial when that was 2 years before the first time she was diagnosed as that by Dr Curry. He seems to want her to be diagnosed with this badly and shopped around until he found someone willing to give that diagnosis despite their own test results claiming differently.
@rampion1228
@rampion1228 Жыл бұрын
It's obvious that they picked BPD because of all the stigma and the fact that the diagnosis is so dodgy is an important point but also using BPD to discredit a victim of DV and SA is horrifying. I have BPD and while I struggled with lashing out at others as a child for most of my life all my agression has been channeled towards harming myself, not others. This includes getting involved/staying in emotionally abusive and unstable relationships because I thought it was what I deserved. People with BPD can be manipulative and abusive the same as anyone else but we don't deserve the stigma against us.
@NoNameHereOrThere
@NoNameHereOrThere Жыл бұрын
​@@rampion1228 It turns out Curry has even been liking tweets calling Amber a hoe and the R-slur as well as being a good friend of Camille so in no way unbiased. She already had no expertise in this specific area and how did the skip actual IPV experts for someone whose job it is to diagnose veterans. And then she likes tweets that say horrible things about her? Some from during the trial. Whole case is madness.
@Mapachonista
@Mapachonista 8 ай бұрын
​@@anne-zh2kd Physical and emotional abuse are very common in cluster b personality disorders. Many people have been abused by NPDs and BPDs, it's very common but very overlooked by society in general.
@variationeighteen
@variationeighteen Жыл бұрын
Hi Verity! I'm from the Philippines and I mostly agreed with what you were saying but I'd like to add a caveat to your ending statements. The fact that Facebook comes free with our internet and the fact that most people are realizing that there's a cheaper way of having access to information makes the SIFT model or what I think is essentially individual responsibility difficult to implement. People who spend all day working (arguably under unfair wages) to provide for their families would not have time to actually think about what social media is doing to them. Thus, SIFTing is a privelege that only those with time, money, and access to the internet beyond Facebook can afford. It would be unfair to ask people to just stop when social media has become a viable way to spend your free time. For me, the solution is truly to touch grass and engage with those who are different from you. Social media creates biases within us against anyone who thinks otherwise and thus just ACTUALLY talking to people changes the way you think and is already against the mode in which social media functions. Unfortunately, when you live in a place with a young democracy with authoritarian tendencies, this only serves the elite. I don't disagree with anything you said but I think this is a perspective needed when we talk about social media because it truly has affected how the state functions for us and let me tell you it is absolutely terrifying to live in the Philippines right now when what you want to pursue is truth. Thanks for reading.
@variationeighteen
@variationeighteen Жыл бұрын
also thanks for actually pronouncing Filipino names right !!
@kamusta3446
@kamusta3446 Жыл бұрын
*cough* Marcos troll farm *cough*
@mentallyunstable1926
@mentallyunstable1926 Жыл бұрын
talking to people at rallies help too i think. the energy at leni rallies i went to made me a lot more confident in who i was supporting just based on other people so yes, touch some grass and talk to others if you don’t have access to other options.
@TrebleChords
@TrebleChords Жыл бұрын
It's scary when your actual family believe in the lies that they hear on the internet to go as far as framing me as having the "morally" wrong choice. Stuff like "she's a woman, women can't lead... Have you seen our track record with leading women? Many people on "TikTok" said...". It was a nightmare at the household and this phenomena holds too true after the elections...
@BritneyT.
@BritneyT. Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this
@muccycloud
@muccycloud Жыл бұрын
as someone who studies sciences at uni and has citations drilled into me for anything I wrote it baffles me that most mainstream news sites don't have citations on their articles, even for super long researched pieces. and the surprise I get from people that I have citations on my own website, not only can people double check me, and see my sources, it also means that they can go and do their own further research if the topic interests!
@muhammadeisa1459
@muhammadeisa1459 Жыл бұрын
What's your site called?
@SomeoneBeginingWithI
@SomeoneBeginingWithI Жыл бұрын
there are some situations where actual journalists are allowed to not have citations, if the article is their own original reporting. It can be helpful in some situations to give sources anonymity, and in that case you do have to trust the reputation and honesty of the journalist. don't news sites usually have citations for statistics and when they are quoting experts and research? Usually the citations are embedded, and not in footnotes like a scientific paper, but most of the information has attribution if you read the article? They usually say things like "according to reporting by [other newspaper]" or "according to research by [institute for researching topic]" or "Professor [scientist] from the university of [city]..." It's not exactly as precise as you would get in a scientific paper. The writing style is based on writing for a newspaper, where footnotes wouldn't be used by most readers so they're not a good use of printing space. The embedded citations usually give enough information that you can find the source if you go looking. If you are reading online there are usually hyperlinks too.
@stillmagic714
@stillmagic714 Жыл бұрын
Oh my God. These are the new fairy folk. They're not technically "evil" just amoral, they don't care about anything but themselves. If you eat the food in fairyland you'll never want to leave, just like clickbait sucks you in and you can't stop scrolling AND time passes faster when you're in fairyland/scrolling. They produce nothing of value and must steal from the real world for resources, just like a parasitic fairy world. Holy crap you've helped me crack it! Ok, I'll watch the rest of the video now. Edit: I can't stop with this analogy, if we accept their gifts, it gives them power over us, there are always strings attached, they never tell the whole truth! And listen, I've watched as people I love seemed to be replaced by a changeling.
@beth7935
@beth7935 Жыл бұрын
Yes! That's a great analogy & I love it! The original concept of fairies & fairyland is fascinating overall, especially that they're amoral- pure evil vs pure good is so boring, ntm non-existent & a really bad way to view the world, & it makes everything meaningless, really.
@stillmagic714
@stillmagic714 Жыл бұрын
You try not to tell them your real name!
@gh0st_b0yfriend
@gh0st_b0yfriend Жыл бұрын
You should 100% write this allegory
@theentirepopulationofaustr6046
@theentirepopulationofaustr6046 Жыл бұрын
Love this so much. Makes me think about etymology - pixels aren't etymologically related to pixies (though it sounds like they should be), but sprites are a kind of fae.
@hinasakukimi
@hinasakukimi Жыл бұрын
strongly disagree. fairies offer much more value, they're pretty and sparkly!!
@theniftycat
@theniftycat Жыл бұрын
This is why I love tumblr. It has misinformation as everywhere, but it tries to monetise itself differently. So, there are a lot less ads I see and virtually no influencers
@XxMusicxKelseyxX
@XxMusicxKelseyxX Жыл бұрын
My most prominent ad is an ad for tumblr itself for some reason? And it has a poorly done pikachu cosplayer on it? I really appreciate that ad, even though I get it a lot.
@daalimbe
@daalimbe Жыл бұрын
that pikachu man... god, that and the goddamn manscaped ads before it 💀
@StormSought
@StormSought 11 ай бұрын
Also, people say all kinds of ridiculous stuff, but if you're following the right people, it'll never come across your dash without sourced discussions. I was listening to my younger sibling and I was like... I guess tiktok doesn't even have peer review, people just believe whatever
@LI0NS0N
@LI0NS0N Жыл бұрын
I am so excited you're talking about this. I avoided most content regarding the trial because people were talking about it with such vitriol. Can't wait to see your take on this whole insanity.
@colleenwheeler2939
@colleenwheeler2939 Жыл бұрын
I truly agree with you on that,
@postrachsmietnikow
@postrachsmietnikow Жыл бұрын
Why the bots in the replies? And completely unrelated?
@inthedriversseat928
@inthedriversseat928 Жыл бұрын
@@postrachsmietnikow Report them all.
@tony_starch
@tony_starch Жыл бұрын
@@postrachsmietnikow I recommend just reporting them
@postrachsmietnikow
@postrachsmietnikow Жыл бұрын
@@tony_starch i did but reporting doesn't do anything
@klisterklister2367
@klisterklister2367 Жыл бұрын
The best call ive ever made is never getting tiktok and deleting my twitter.
@germandarling123
@germandarling123 Жыл бұрын
Same
@sarahkate2669
@sarahkate2669 Жыл бұрын
This is sich a depressing topic, but thanks for bringing attention to it. We spend so much of our lives in these digital spaces, yet think so little about how they're structured.
@magdajabonska537
@magdajabonska537 Жыл бұрын
Something I've thought of today - given how much they impact both the world in general, perhaps doing a "social media revolution" of some sort* could be the key to actually bring about some positive change in this world and potentially create tools or a medium which, while not necessarily perfect, would be super useful for fighting against exploitative systems in various areas of life *I don't know what exactly and how to do it, I'm not an expert in this or any related subject and I've only really started thinking about this recently, but I bet there are people more knowledgeable than me who could find some kind of a solution
@ninjamatt2164
@ninjamatt2164 Жыл бұрын
True
@HPFireYT
@HPFireYT Жыл бұрын
Seeing videos talking about this trial on the internet made me start thinking about how normally, this would be handled privately and away from the news. Then I felt almost voyeuristic, so I just ignored all coverage until I heard it ended, and continued ignoring it after. I think seeing a fancam of Johnny Depp randomly appear in my recommended broke me a little. It was… weird.
@kid14346
@kid14346 Жыл бұрын
My favorite thing is how I am very far left, but I enjoy a lot of hobbies typically engaged with by more right leaning nut cases (Table top war games, Anime, and Shooter Games) The algorithm literally wiffle waffles weekly about what it shows me. It will be like, "You are an atheist and played Call of Duty a little bit ago... do you want this propoganda for the US Marines?" then the next week it is like, "Okay you spent 4 hours watching CJ the X rant about capitalism and you just watched the Owl House... do you want some ads for Pride Flags?"
@postrachsmietnikow
@postrachsmietnikow Жыл бұрын
Same xd
@beth7935
@beth7935 Жыл бұрын
Same, I'm far left but I get weird right-leaning & "anti-SJW" shit sometimes, & I tend to think youtube's confused cos I watch ANTI-anti-SJW stuff, lol, but that's an interesting thought- maybe watching lots of stuff about, like, Mediaeval warfare & fight scenes in movies etc also confuses it?? More than enough sexist mAnLy mEn there, whining about "wokeness" while I just wanna know how you survive an arrow to the face... I dunno, but it recommends a fair bit of stuff I'd never watch.
@anteroinen4239
@anteroinen4239 Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile KZfaq seems to be really into pushing me women's hygiene product and especially, like incontinence exercises? Which, like, is fine, but I am cis-man, not in a relationship with a woman even? For whomst are these products supposed to go? My mother?
@NoiseDay
@NoiseDay Жыл бұрын
I beat the algorithm by 1) never watching youtube on my phone 2) using a chrome extension that blocks ads and 3) using another extension that removes youtube recommendations. I find new channels when I search for specific things that are relevant to me. I don't get caught in a loop binging time-wasting content like comedy skits or cute animals or clickbait.
@satyre_1
@satyre_1 Жыл бұрын
Haha! Same. I beat the algorithm. One video, it'd be from a Transgender, very progressive, left-leaning content creator. The next, it'd be about how diverse representation in media are the lefties wet dream and it's ruining Hollywood and every franchise we love! Like haha, Jesus fucking Christ, KZfaq, calm down. And despite being a huge fan of "The Legend of Korra" (notorious for internet hate), I'd get series reviews from frustratingly biased and nostalgia-driven "content creators".
@PaxPirate
@PaxPirate Жыл бұрын
Really clever video and good points! Just want to add that this was a CIVIL trial, not a criminal one. It was a civil, monetary defamation dispute. It wasn't about justice - but it was made into that in the public space. It was never about punishing and deciding who is right or wrong in this private matter of a toxic relationship. The SoMe space is reframimg the whole thing with the "Justice for Johnny". It's about whether this one rich person defamed the other person, which relies on the domestic violence allegations yes but that was not the core of the case. We are missing the nuance when passing criminal judgment on a civil case.
@cayleece7890
@cayleece7890 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. You are spot on
@darkfruit2412
@darkfruit2412 Жыл бұрын
The best way to describe the trial is this - if I stabbed you, then you hit me with a paper knife, but lied about it, I could file a court case against you for lying about scratching me with a paper knife....and win. But in the grand scheme of things, that doesn't make me the victim.
@alilweeb7684
@alilweeb7684 19 күн бұрын
She did singlehandedly destroy Jhonny career, you think people wouldn't be mad when she was proved to be lying multiple times???
@alexisnotabrocoli4502
@alexisnotabrocoli4502 5 ай бұрын
I remember posting an article on my Instagram story about how the media demonized Amber Heard and the obvious parallel with Medusa (the rest of my account was just my art). But I still got someone messaging me that because I had posted an article saying that no matter the outcome of the trial the way they destroyed amber heard in the media was not OK ; they couldn't follow me anymore, which was hallucinating.
@jlo9993
@jlo9993 Жыл бұрын
I've recently been debating whether or not I'm autistic and all of a sudden TikTok is trying to tell me I am. Like undoubtedly. Most of my FYP is just "signs of autism" or "silly autism things".
@AlwaysKDawg
@AlwaysKDawg 2 ай бұрын
So, I had a connection to the case as my significant other worked for the law office that was representing Heard. There were Depp fans showing up at the office building, harassing the receptionist, leaving false google reviews. It was scary. The whole trial had me in a constant state of anxiety, because we didn't know how far these fans would go and if they would hurt anyone.. thankfully that didn't happen, but it was INSANE.
@LaraCroftEyes1
@LaraCroftEyes1 2 ай бұрын
Liar never happened. Amber isn't a victim. she is the abuser she admitted to physically abusing Johnny which is on audio.
@VariousAndSundryBee
@VariousAndSundryBee Жыл бұрын
I was lucky to find people who talked about the trial with a sense of compassion and knowledge of the law. It wasn’t entertainment, it was educational for me. I don’t understand how people can meme about something they haven’t even watched.
@user-eg5kt9fy2j
@user-eg5kt9fy2j Жыл бұрын
Who did u watch? I could only find like 2 or 3 people but they only made one off videos. I really wanted to find some people who talked about things during and/or after the trail because there’s so much stuff I’ve seen online that I know is bad framing or false but I don’t want to research it all myself
@beardpandaa
@beardpandaa Жыл бұрын
@@user-eg5kt9fy2j runkle of the bailey is a lawyer who was there in the court in the gallery who talks about it. Emily d Baker streamed the whole thing everyday that it was happening
@creatrixZBD
@creatrixZBD Жыл бұрын
@@user-eg5kt9fy2j Black Belt Barrister, , Legal Bytes, Incredibly Average, Harvard Lawyer Lee (my fave), Hoeg Law all gave good insight, as well as Runkle mentioned above. My experience of the trial coverage was pretty good, I didn’t come across many gutter channels at all.
@cocoa020
@cocoa020 Жыл бұрын
@@creatrixZBD Yeah Alyte or Legal Bytes kept the conversation fairly civil and Hoeg Law came in blind and only perceived what the jury might have on the stand to be as unbiased as possible. It was really insightful for the trial proceedings in general
@cayleece7890
@cayleece7890 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, me too. I watched it through Emily D Baker. She is compassionate and understands law, nd her audience is there to do that as well.
@corvus8873
@corvus8873 Жыл бұрын
If all you're getting out of this video is the Johnny Depp trial, you're completely missing the big picture of what this video is trying to say
@ddahlia3607
@ddahlia3607 Жыл бұрын
tiktok is the absolute worst for this because unlike other social media sights, it doesnt give you any tool to filter and its entirely algorithm. i had to stop using it after noticing how much it would change my mood and how I felt about things. it started off being dumb but it got to the point where it identified my as mentally ill and wouldnt stop sending very triggering and upsetting "relatable" content to me. still i was spending hours on there and I had to log out to free myself
@sapphic.flower
@sapphic.flower Жыл бұрын
amazing video, it feels rare to find people that recognize the Heard-Depp trial for what it is, no matter who the actual guilty party is. The online exploitation and inflammatory vitriol felt like society was regressing in order to lavish in the "spicy drama" of... domestic abuse. I felt so frustrated and I could hardly vocalize it without people thinking I'm an abuse-sympathizer when that's not even what the issue is. The fact anyone felt like they could "help" Depp is really just daunting.
@c.w.8200
@c.w.8200 Жыл бұрын
Wow, I'm glad someone made this video. I looked up news coverage about the trial and was bombarded with Amber Heard hate videos in the recommendations, really disgusting stuff.
@ishanrukshan6431
@ishanrukshan6431 Жыл бұрын
Nope it's good fk amber Heard.
@timbofication9788
@timbofication9788 Жыл бұрын
Ive been talking about this with my roommate who hntil recently was a real "i won an argument on Facebook today" type guy. Id gotten off facebook a year ago because i was noticing the way it was chsnging how i look at my neighbors and family and friends, as well as larger issues. It commodifies serious issues and topics into team sports that memes can be made about to keep you scrolling through ads.
@M-WG
@M-WG Жыл бұрын
The longer you’re off it the happier you’ll be.
@lucyferos205
@lucyferos205 5 ай бұрын
It's the same or worse on this platform
@meh4294
@meh4294 Жыл бұрын
I found it really weird how this case was treated like a TV show ,this is not acting ,this is a real life case abt assault,no one should protect any side of it ,it was a really weird phenomenon in the internet and I hope it ended
@Princess_Weekes
@Princess_Weekes Жыл бұрын
An excellent break down.
@insomnimaniac58
@insomnimaniac58 Жыл бұрын
hello omg queens stanning queens
@antihinduismisbased
@antihinduismisbased Жыл бұрын
Speaking of which, your video on this subject matter was, by far, my favourite video of yours. Really opened my eyes to the pop cultural madness that is going on for this trial and how it relates to the 'true crime thinking' about victims and our perception of who is innocent and who isn't.
@AlexHider
@AlexHider Жыл бұрын
@@antihinduismisbased same
@squashfei8907
@squashfei8907 Жыл бұрын
so was your video
@Neloch4
@Neloch4 Жыл бұрын
Loved your video on the subject. Here's to the queens
@dumbasskong6561
@dumbasskong6561 Жыл бұрын
I can't get over how almost identical the Filipino journalist, Maria Ressa sounds to Ursula K. Le Guin. Her intonation and cadence are so similar, it's uncanny. She's incredibly well spoken too. Amazing and well researched video as always 👏🏻
@jungtothehuimang
@jungtothehuimang Жыл бұрын
Thank you for not ending on a hopeless note, I have been trying very hard to disconnect from social media lately to the point of deleting the few media accounts I do have just to take a break. But I know eventually I will need to go back, and it feels to overwhelming. But keeping these tips in mind mind help honestly.
@CasualShinji
@CasualShinji Жыл бұрын
This was a remarkably nice and calm watch despite the devastatingly hopeless implications of the content. Maybe it's your voice, I don't know.
@verysmallcat
@verysmallcat Жыл бұрын
it was so. so. so impossible to avoid hearing about that stupid trial. i went out of my way to avoid it, even when it was still a small thing. everything i know about it was against my will and i still know so much about it. also i am VERY pro small website local/small/niche social media
@BribriMari
@BribriMari Жыл бұрын
I love the way your citations show throughout the videos. It makes it so easy when I want to know more about something :) i’d love to see more of that online
@stoppit9
@stoppit9 Жыл бұрын
I posted one comment asking people to consider that the narrative has been affected by misogyny and had to block like 20 people after
@ellie8784
@ellie8784 Жыл бұрын
I was sent death threats because I said I was sick of people acting like every woman that comes out against abuse is just "another Amber heard" (not saying Amber heard was a bad person, but people will say "not all men!" But the second they think a woman does something bad their like "just another Amber heard 😔")
@lolly9804
@lolly9804 Жыл бұрын
It's so easy to lapse into believing something from a seemingly well informed source. Like I remember watching a otherwise quite well done video essay on the historical queer panic defence. But it listed my country as still having this issue. Even though I remember celebrating the law being repealed in parliament, in like 2004/2005. I even checked with my gay friend who works in corrections just to make sure I hadn't jumped timelines by accident.
@paulhammond6978
@paulhammond6978 Жыл бұрын
Sure, but it's possible that a good article just missed out a recent change - it doesn't make the essay wrong, it just means the essayist has made a mistake.
@lolly9804
@lolly9804 Жыл бұрын
@@paulhammond6978Well 2005 isn't recent. And sure the rest of the piece was perfectly fine. My main point was it was enough of a minor mistake for me to believe it without question. As it's easier to believe an appeal to authority, than to constantly be vigilant for mistakes presented in media.
@jaybee4118
@jaybee4118 4 ай бұрын
@@lolly9804it didn’t happen to be James Somerton did it?
@lolly9804
@lolly9804 4 ай бұрын
@@jaybee4118 Lol yes, I guess the signs were definitely already there ...
@AKINAC16
@AKINAC16 Жыл бұрын
the first real nuanced commentary ive seen on main youtube. finally. thank you for bringing up how first world techboys affect the global south.
@MiriamClairify
@MiriamClairify Жыл бұрын
I'm so glad you talked about Myanmar and the Philippines and Google and Facebook racing to provide internet to Africa, it really puts the issue in context and I just wish more analysis of all kinds of things had the perspicacity to include people outside the anglosphere and in the global south. And like as awful as the trial coverage was, the genocide of Rohingya people really does deserve to be in the center of conversations about misinfo on Facebook.
@helgaioannidis9365
@helgaioannidis9365 Жыл бұрын
I watched the trial itself out of professional interests (I work with male and female victims of domestic abuse) and it annoys me that since that KZfaq keeps offering me videos about Miss Heard and about Mr Depp. I am still actively feeding the algorithm with other things to get rid of those videos that promote gossip and hatred.
@georgieleach7379
@georgieleach7379 Жыл бұрын
The word “advertising” 10 mins in was cut in half by ads and honestly I’m not even mad, it was satisfying
@NannaLaurie
@NannaLaurie 10 ай бұрын
My colleagues research this, and there is consistent no evidence to support the existence of filter bubbles. It's rather these echo chambers that are provable on certain platforms. Apparently the guy who first wrote about filter bubbles and made it an high interest topic to research (Pariser) was already very unclear in his definitions of the concept and so it's just incredibly hard to prove that it exists.
@siyeonjung3357
@siyeonjung3357 Жыл бұрын
literally muted every single word related to them on twitter and i still could not escape them.... honesty this whole case disgusts me cause not only people are treating serious domestic violence case as a form of entertainment, people are also seeing johnny depp as some innocent guy when in reality he did some questionable stuff and has history of aggression
@delusionalmilkshake
@delusionalmilkshake Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Wished I could like your comment thousands of time. That dude has very disturbing past. I still don't understand how can anyone for a moment think he is some innocent man.
@Naahi95
@Naahi95 Жыл бұрын
I don't care about Amber, I didn't even knew who she was before this, but never liked Depp. He comes across as a very sexist and agressive person, and the reason he was "losing jobs" before was not the DV allegations, it was HIS BEHAVIOUR on set.
@ithinkiwoulddie9196
@ithinkiwoulddie9196 Жыл бұрын
@@Naahi95 no one wants to talk about how he’s best friends with Marilyn Manson and the fact he also admittedly “gave him drugs so he’d stop talking so much”
@mapleleaf65
@mapleleaf65 Жыл бұрын
"I feel like I have to process every one of the world's problems everyday" is very very real :')
@MAjaLeahHB
@MAjaLeahHB Жыл бұрын
as someone who works in social media and advertising i'm so happy you talked about this, more people need to know how scarily venerable we make ourselves online and how easily we believe what is fed to us.
@Bruno-jj2oi
@Bruno-jj2oi 4 ай бұрын
I just deleted my Instagram account for good, using only YT as a social media and videos like these just makes me even more secure of my decision
@shrimpbiscuit3480
@shrimpbiscuit3480 Жыл бұрын
This hits home! Instagram is my primary social media outlet and everyone I interact with on there has either refused to post about the trial or has posted minimally and correctly identified how messed up it all is. I idiotically thought TikTok would be the same and commented something like “yeah Heard is cringe and I don’t like her, but what Depp did was really messed up” and the vitriolic responses I got were so detached from reality I was truly shook. This trial was very similar to the OJ Simpson trial in many ways and it’s really sad to see we haven’t learned anything since then, the public reacted in exactly the same way.
@ND-xb3hx
@ND-xb3hx Жыл бұрын
This trial has been weighing on my mind for a while now even though i tried to avoid it as much as possible. The public reaction to this trial made it clear to me how unequipped the general public is at dealing with issues of domestic violence. Both my mother and I experienced DV from my stepdad so when I saw the ridiculous expectations, standards and judgements the public put on Amber Heard (the accuser in this case) during this trial, I was mortified that if I was ever in the same position and did a nervous smile, looked too relaxed or made eye-contact in a manner that the public didn't find appropriate, that would mean I must be lying. A relative of mine who had a social media presence also recently went through a very public divorce on social media where her husband posted videos accusing her of abandoning their family and children. Their audience immediately started attacking her after which she uploaded a video making allegations of abuse. I know that she (my relative) has been confiding in my mother for years and saying that her husband has been physically, financially, verbally and emotionally abusive and unfaithful to her so I have grounds to believe her that she has been abused because she has been talking about it privately to family members for years before these matters became public. And in a community like mine where being an abuse victim is considered a blemish on the family name, there is no reason for anyone to willingly put that label on themselves. She gave a very detailed account of abuse in her marriage and many people in the comments changed their tune afterwards. However, there were still some people including his colleagues/friends accusing her of lying and many mocking her of being "Amber Heard-lite". This was very disturbing knowing that in this case, the abuse was very real. I may not know the details of Johnny and Amber's situation, but I definitely know in my relative's case and it's horrifying knowing that she has people who don't even know her discrediting her experience and calling her nasty names. I have reflected a lot and what I feel now is the court of public opinion is just not the right platform to discuss issues on domestic violence. It is unrealistic to expect everyone to have a comprehensive understanding of the complexities of domestic violence because not everyone goes through it and not everyone has the emotional maturity to understand it whether it be due to age or plain immaturity. Although a good number of people will give you their support and understanding, almost half of the audience will either be suspicious or outright discredit you because of their own biases even if you definitely went through domestic abuse. The fact that domestic abuse victims are already psychologically vulnerable makes me think it should be handled away from the public some of whom will likely attack the victim. You cannot and should not expect justice from the public and it is in your best interest to detach yourself emotionally from people's opinions of the situation. Now I do not personally know either Johnny or Amber, but I saw a recording made by Amber showing Johnny yelling, slamming cupboard door, breaking objects and eventually throwing out the device she was recording with. People on the internet were discrediting this evidence, stating that he was not exactly hitting her or that she seemed like she was staging the situation/instigating it or that because he didn't break her recording device and only threw it, that means he can't be that bad. People do not seem to understand that abuse is not just physical. Even slamming doors or punching walls due to anger towards a partner can be threatening to the partner's mental wellbeing and safety. I do not have any other comments on their case because I did not watch it and I do not feel entitled to an opinion because i do not know either personally and i understand that both of them are going to do their best to paint themselves in the best light. My only hope is that whatever the truth is, whoever is suffering whether it is one or both of them, they are safe and they have people close to them who are supportive of them as they work towards their recovery because when I tell you, going through a domestic violence changes your psyche and it takes years to achieve a sense of normalcy. It's been years since i left my home but i don't think I have recovered fully yet either and don't know if I ever will. It will always be a part of me and my history. But i try my best to live a fulfilling life and have met many amazing people who have enriched my life since. And while on the topic of evidence, people do not seem to understand how difficult it is to collect evidence because you cannot predict when violence will occur and in that moment, there is usually no time to grab the phone and start a recording. I lived for 3 years under abuse and as much as i tried I couldn't collect undeniable evidence because my wretched stepfather knew to speak in a very low tone so that the neighbours couldn't hear his voice. It would usually be him threatening my mother while i was in a different room. A lot of the abuse was psychological, e.g. throwing urine from my little sister's potty on my clothes dried outside, playing loud music at midnight by himself while i had exams, making threats of murder outside my door, teaching my little sisters to throw their soiled diapers at me. These events took place out of nowhere and there was no time to prepare to take a recording that makes sense to someone from the outside. Although the physical abuse was not daily or even weekly, the threat was always there and there was no time to be prepared to take a recording of physical violence either. Because courtrooms operate based on evidence, I have been wondering if even the courtroom is the right place to settle domestic abuse unless there is an imminent threat to someone's safety. Regardless, the consequence for perpetrators are that harsh aand there is the fear that they will come after you once you accuse them or leave them. Because of people misusing the legal system, it is not the most reliable either. At the moment, to me, the most a domestic abuse survivor can ask for seems to be physical safety and support to recover from their trauma. The public cannot give you that. And may be the courtroom can't either. I hope that you are lucky to have close ones who are supportive and that you find the strength to get past it and eventually move one to a different stage in life. In countries like England, there are a lot of charities who are happy to support you and provide transitional homes/financial support if you are committed to leaving the situations. Unfortunately, a lot of victims find it difficult to leave because of their children etc. or other responsibilities so I know it isn't always as simple. I have come across 3 different relatives who suffered domestic violence in the recent past and my friends know a lot of people in the same situation too. It is all too common. Luckily, I know of survivors who have left that environment with much courage and now live a beautiful and fulfilling life. So there is still hope. If you are going through something like this, try your best to get evidence or get someone you trust to confide in and preferably witness abusive incidents too. If you're lucky, the legal system may rule in your favour. But regardless, prioritise your safety and mental wellbeing and make necessary arrangements to get safely out of the situation. I hope it works out for you and wish you good luck. I understand that I might sound too hopeless and if anyone thinks I am wrong or there is reason to have more hope, I am happy to listen because I am desperate for it. I'm only human and I can be mistaken or miss a point of view. But I just wanted to get this off my chest and haven't found many platform where people are having thoughtful discussions about this issue.
@timgray1664
@timgray1664 Жыл бұрын
Personally, I thought that it was a case of weighing up evidence that both parties had, and in that case I thought Johnny had very much more evidence (tape where Amber admits to hitting him and then taunting him about telling people, the makeup company that said that Amber couldn't have used their makeup because it wasn't out yet, Kate Moss rejecting Amber's claims that Johnny abused Kate, the psychologist that diagnosed Amber for multiple disorders) compared to Amber's evidence (Johnny doing angry texts and smashing up stuff angrily). I respect how humble and thoughtful your analysis was though, it's rare for the internet
@oa8463
@oa8463 Жыл бұрын
Sorry that you went through that. N sorry u have the incel pro-dv bots under your comment
@uhohspaghettios2391
@uhohspaghettios2391 Жыл бұрын
This video is incredible, and I really want to send it to my mom, as she's proved VERY susceptible to misinformation of late. Unfortunately, she's 1. Conservative and 2. Incredibly transphobic, so I doubt she'd even bother to watch. ...God, this is depressing.
@blue1584
@blue1584 Жыл бұрын
There are sources for the articles discussed (they appear periodically in the upper corner of the video), so maybe you could just have her read the articles directly instead?
@c.w.8200
@c.w.8200 Жыл бұрын
My mom is in her 60s and even though she's university educated she tends to believe stupid stuff if the website it's on looks "professional" like a real news site. I usually take the time to debunk the whole thing for her, I do a little presentation on the plausibility of whatever she's convinced of, who profits from lying etc.
@kyloforshaw8400
@kyloforshaw8400 Жыл бұрын
I'm extremely disappointed in myself for how I got into that Johnny Depp trial. I let it literally control my life because I neeeeded to see updates. I now just don't look at what a celeb is doing anymore unless it's new music or tours from my favourite artists because being so invested and bothered about the life of someone who doesn't even know I exist is fairly sad.
@ginny7000
@ginny7000 Жыл бұрын
whenever i'm reminded of the sheer lack of accountability social media companies have i get so tired. great video, though.
@vegan.3176
@vegan.3176 Жыл бұрын
Omg an actually informative video about a relevant topic which isn‘t just a video essayist giving they‘re basic as opinion in 30 minutes. No but seriously, thank you. You guys deserve a lot more followers
@cosmicalist
@cosmicalist Жыл бұрын
One of the worst things about the trial was watching how so many content creators took advantage of the situation for their own gain. I'm not talking randos on tiktok or twitter, I'm talking big streamers from all over the world. Ludwig, Rubius, they all watched it live on twitch with an audience of thousands every day. Some of these audiences are mostly composed of impressionable minors, and they watched this trial through the lens of a very biased creator that likes to spew borderline neonazi ideology every chance they get. It's all very scary and it does feel hopeless. I'm glad to see you envision a brighter future, and I wanna believe that there's still a chance for it. But right now, how things are going, I'm not sure I'm capable of that anymore. I just wanna crawl under a rock and die there.
@AnneB2
@AnneB2 Жыл бұрын
Why is it wrong to make money off of discussing the trial? The media get to make money off of discussing news as well as gossip. The fact that these intriguing celebrities are in a legal dispute that has parallels to many every day people's experiences of abusive relationships ignoring the absurd amounts of money involved is something that is worthy of discussion. How can we treat allegations seriously regardless of gender? How do we determine who is the abusive one of the relationship? How should the legal system treat a relationship where both parties are toxic to each other? I think it's worth talking about, and I've enjoyed learning a lot from youtubers who are lawyers who have dedicated a lot of time and effort to explaining the trial. I think they deserve the monetary gain, even just for providing entertainment. It's not for everyone, and it's frustrating that those who are not interested still get it thrown in their face because it's trending. But the problem is in the social media algorithm that is purely centered around earning the platform as much money as possible, which means suggesting the popular content to every possible eye, and catering the videos that likely align with the viewer's ideology instead of providing a balanced view from multiple sources.
@kashiichan
@kashiichan Жыл бұрын
Personally, I continue to exist out of spite. I'll be damned if I let these arseholes chase me out of my internet.
@yikes2540
@yikes2540 Жыл бұрын
Wait, Ludwig promotes neo-Nazi propaganda?
@MySingerlover
@MySingerlover Жыл бұрын
I can agree that they made a negative spectacle in a trial and added it to be part of pop culture/engagement, and that's wrong. Sadly, this is something that is seen in pop culture even outside of these particular celebs. They aren't unique. So many people made money out of a DV case when they had no connection/info about the trial except being spectators with only an emotional response to such a case. However, I am rather perplexed by you insinuating that any of them are neonazis, that is a heavy term that should not be used lightly. It's gross behaviour that was displayed during the trial, but to say such a term of bigotry is strange. Is there evidence of that displayed by these people?
@thesevenkingswelove9554
@thesevenkingswelove9554 Жыл бұрын
@@AnneB2 the problem imo would be that it's setting a narrative that might not necessarily even be true simply for entertainment but I agree with rest of the points, it was displayed for public in the first place so it makes sense people would talk about it ( even if it's in the negative sense)
@alisaurus4224
@alisaurus4224 Жыл бұрын
Just got back from the doctor and the tech in the blood lab had “Justice for Johnny” on the wall in bright green. Kinda inappropriate, no?
@montselech
@montselech Жыл бұрын
Why? Genuine asking what's inappropriate about a human making known their beliefs and stands?
@juliahcornell
@juliahcornell Жыл бұрын
@@montselech ehh in my experience, it's a social norm that you shouldn't project your political views while working, especially at customer-facing jobs. Often, it's also explicitly disallowed. When I was a lifeguard, a fellow guard got reprimanded for wearing a MAGA hat. I'm not saying I necessarily agree, but in the society we currently live in, it's seen by most people as bad form.
@montselech
@montselech Жыл бұрын
@@juliahcornell I think there is a point to clarify... There is a HUGE difference between wearing something like a cross or a t-shirt of a band you like and which are statements of your likes/beliefs and using something like a terrorist group difference number one but even with the MAGA if that person is not pushing their beliefs to others and being inappropriate about it then there is nothing wrong with that.
@juliahcornell
@juliahcornell Жыл бұрын
@@montselech you may think there's nothing wrong with it, and I'd actually tend to agree. I think it's part of the dehumanization of workers, basically denying them their humanity and their freedom of expression to turn them into labor drones. I'm not saying that it's wrong, I'm just saying it's inappropriate because it goes against societal norms. I do think there's room to argue that in this specific case, it could be harmful to have a pro-Depp poster in a medical setting. You could come up with a plausible argument that the poster sends a message to women that discourages them from being honest about medically-relevant DV-related information. But that's case-specific and maybe a bit of a stretch
@montselech
@montselech Жыл бұрын
@@juliahcornell I think is a cultural/country difference bc as I have always seen it in my work, past works, and other friends and family workplaces unless you place something inherently inappropriate like naked ppl or hate speech/rude words... Etc we are allowed to personalize our area bc in the end we are humans with personalities.
@deb0815
@deb0815 Жыл бұрын
When I first heard about this situation, probably last year or 2020 not sure, my first instinct was to believe Depp. The reasons being: 1. Well he is the only one I know of and his image is good on tv so he must be telling the truth. 2. I felt like I had to say I support him otherwise people (men) will think all women (including myself) don't believe male dv victims. 3. I watched some videos of Amber where she had a resting bitch face and read articles about how she did evil things towards Depp. 4. Everyone on twitter was supporting him so I thought it must mean that he is on the right side. So yeah, social media and mob mentality does influence your views. At a certain point during the trial I had realised that thankfully.
@MackenziiRivers
@MackenziiRivers Жыл бұрын
i mean you were on the right side in the end
@ellie8784
@ellie8784 Жыл бұрын
@@MackenziiRivers what was the right side to you?
@MackenziiRivers
@MackenziiRivers Жыл бұрын
@@ellie8784 Depp's.
@hi6575
@hi6575 Жыл бұрын
Watched the trial, saw the evidence, still leaning towards Depp
@oa8463
@oa8463 Жыл бұрын
Abusive men made it into a sport. Its not. They also saw siding with depp as a social stamp of approval for dv.
@PacificWanderer
@PacificWanderer Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for covering this, you can hardly sigh anything against Depp and you get SWARMED by stans on twitter. I just stayed off of TikTok bc I was hearing how disgusting it was from friends and family who were ingesting the content.
@PumpkinMozie
@PumpkinMozie 11 ай бұрын
Ughhhh I soooo miss the old internet days when people had their own personal websites! So much fun and creativity.
@aSmallGreenDot
@aSmallGreenDot Жыл бұрын
I didn't watch a single video on the trial and yet I know so much more about it than I wanted to
@infinitusinanis5832
@infinitusinanis5832 9 ай бұрын
For me personally it is kind of terrifying to think about all the problems that come with the advancement of technology and how dystopian things are getting, so it makes such an enourmous difference in my mental health that you approach these topics in such a grounded, non-deranged, non-fatalistic way, reminding your viewers that there are potential solutions and alternatives and ending in a more positive, but never unrealistic, note. Thank you so so much!!
@sss40719
@sss40719 Жыл бұрын
in my opinion, the case should not have been publicized
@freezacold187
@freezacold187 Жыл бұрын
Correct
@tabularasa
@tabularasa Жыл бұрын
A culture of citations, yes! Love it. Great video. I abandoned social media (except KZfaq) about five years ago, but I still think about this stuff all the time, worried for the effects on the minds of my neighbors and peers. A while back, I learned the details about Facebook's involvement in Myanmar with horror. I believe all of Facebook's c-level executives should be held accountable for crimes against humanity. Thank you for addressing issues with internet infrastructure in the global south, in places like the Philippines and other nations, where Facebook IS the only internet. We know misinformation is bad in the West, but it can be even worse in nations that are trying to develop. The constant spread of false information is one of the most pressing concerns in the world today. It infects every aspect of our lives. But we *can* be proactive. We can invest more in education, better media literacy (such as using the tactics you elaborate on near the end of your video), write better laws combating the invasiveness and monopoly of tech, and to be more conscious of our own usage. !! Thank you for all the citations, I definitely want to watch this again and look for some of them
@angelikaskoroszyn8495
@angelikaskoroszyn8495 Жыл бұрын
I've consciously started to avoid it because it turned into a sort of culture war. Instead of maybe trying to find the Truth (as much as it was possible) people joined one team and started to cheer their fav person Memes are fun but it's a serious shit. No matter who was the victim
@bekaeast7346
@bekaeast7346 5 ай бұрын
I can’t be special about this: the hateful stuff on social media was addictive at first but now I use my phone & social media less than ever now. My brain has tied social media with bad emotions so it’s hard to even bring myself to open social media. I feel like facebook isn’t thinking about the long term because this has to be happening to a lot of ppl
@izabellab8920
@izabellab8920 Жыл бұрын
”It feels… a little bit hopeless”; putting words to what I’ve been feeling for so long 😞 I didn’t know how much I needed this video until now when you’ve made it, thank you so much ❤
@Gjigfvniyf
@Gjigfvniyf Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU I watch trials for fun and this entire thing was a train wreck, both sides were a mess but the treatment of Amber was heinous, no matter what you believe. The way grown ass adults were pulled into calling Amber names like children while citing things that were not legally viable drove me up a wall. People have forgotten how to see a situation without completely dehumanizing the person they see as in the wrong.
@Xylkamela4ter
@Xylkamela4ter 7 ай бұрын
amber was not in the right
@nico-vc6ot
@nico-vc6ot Жыл бұрын
i appreciate how you brought up the philippines’ misinformation problem, it’s one of our biggest problems especially this year
@daisyball2338
@daisyball2338 Жыл бұрын
I think it's really interesting hearing what different people's experience see things about the Jonny v Amber trial I know people saw no memes or content except when they opened the news as well as people who were bombarded
@AllieBee00
@AllieBee00 Жыл бұрын
I saw no memes but that’s because the only social media I have is Reddit which is very personalized so I didn’t see the trial stuff unless I wanted too. Regardless I watched all of it while unemployed and yeah didn’t need memes to draw my own opinion tbh.
@auberginebear
@auberginebear Жыл бұрын
I've been using many different social media outlets, but even now, I've never seen any of the memes. On KZfaq, everything I saw was actual footage of the trial (I watched the whole thing that way) and on TikTok, I didn't see anything related to the trial until the verdict came out, and even then, the number I can count on one hand (not using sign language). My usage of Facebook, something covered heavily in this video, was almost non-existent before this trial, but that wasn't because I was following it, I just moved and was looking for free or cheap new furniture through FB, but since the verdict, I've seen more stories about it on my feed. So yes, I find it interesting to see and hear other people's experience of this compared to mine.
@lousyfuckingratboy4219
@lousyfuckingratboy4219 Жыл бұрын
this was a kind of brutal watch. i had to keep pausing it to take in the sheer calamity of the problems shown.. i can only imagine how soul crushing a lot of the research was (so i thank you for your work) and more still how overwhelming it must be to be one of the front line journalists/activists like Maria Ressa.. Jesus. well i guess it would feel good to be working tangibly towards a solution. instead of drinking in the horror ever day and having to spit it back into a bucket like a wine taster..
@RoselynTate
@RoselynTate Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for making this, definitely going to be sending this video to a bunch of folks!! You strike such a good balance between informative and thought-provoking, while also injecting your personality, and moments of entertainment and levity, without either undermining the other, which is honestly such a delicate balance, so hat's off to you!
@l.tc.5032
@l.tc.5032 Жыл бұрын
One silver lining is I see more and more people quitting social media. It's small minority but I genuinely think it will grow. Why? Because it's killing our mental health. We need real interactions not FOMO over our friends "perfect" life (and my perfect I mean carefully curated) I've made it it a point to try to hang out with actual people more often. Going for a drink, going shopping, out for brunch. It all feels so much better than doomscrolling and I think a lot of people feel the same way. Plus with all the whistle blowing on the danger of misinformation I think people are slowly starting to wise up and just leave it behind, I think we may be starting to see the if not the death than the shrinking of social media. I don't think it will be fast in fact I think there's a good chance that it may get worse before it gets better but I can see signs that people are blocking their ears to the sound of social media's siren call.
@Vennele
@Vennele Жыл бұрын
"am I convincing? ✨", Yeah, you're one of my favorite YT creators. 🔥 I wish I had this researching skills, with all the information and misinformation spread in the internet, I just... Feel that I can't. That it's overwhelming, I tried to avoid all of it, and ended up shutting my phone for days, as long as needed. People like you are a spark of hope for me in this neo world that I'm willing to understand.
@Vennele
@Vennele Жыл бұрын
Yet here we are, most popular comments talking about the trial and not about the problem, social media is a "beast that they can't tame".
@JordanSullivanadventures
@JordanSullivanadventures 10 ай бұрын
Yeah I remember watching like 4 anti-Amber Heard trial videos on KZfaq when they started getting heavily pushed, and even with very little investment in either celebrity, and with the full awareness that trial was being covered in a biased manner, it was just so intoxicating to watch. Not just trial coverage, but "best of Johnny Depp's therapist owning the courtroom" or "most devastating Amber Heard moments," etc. With Supercuts of the most quippable, memable moments from the trial.
@superdrwholock
@superdrwholock Жыл бұрын
I love how the most sheep-like people are the ones who say 'don't be a sheep!'
@alicekunze3044
@alicekunze3044 Жыл бұрын
I want to leave you all with a quote I included in a paper on True Crime that, to me, summarizes why Amber never stood a chance, no matter guilty or innocent: „Questions of ‘guilt‘, ‘innocence‘ and social justice fade into the background as reactions to the […] criminalized woman play out in the arena of ‘loving’ and ‘hating’”. (Tanya Horeck, Justice on Demand, p. 120). A woman on trial will always trigger a gut response, not a logical one, and will allow more bias and projection into an affect-driven response. Social media of course exacerbates this effect.
@bestcombos5945
@bestcombos5945 Жыл бұрын
Nevermind the fact that in this case it was absolutely, blatantly obvious who the actual abuser was, and it wasn’t Depp. I’ve been following this case since it first started years ago and it has never been unclear who the abuser was. (I’ve never actually been a huge Johnny Depp fan myself so i don’t think that played a huge role.)
@alicekunze3044
@alicekunze3044 Жыл бұрын
@@bestcombos5945 okay? you missed the entire point of my comment though so I dont understand why you're telling me that.
@kiwiwooq
@kiwiwooq Жыл бұрын
@@bestcombos5945 that was the point. They both were very very toxic to each other but it seems like AH took it to another level by physically abusing JD.
@bestcombos5945
@bestcombos5945 Жыл бұрын
@@kiwiwooq i get your point but i still didn’t see any evidence of Johnny being actually, actively toxic towards AH.. Verbal arguments and fights are not ”abuse”.. they’re not optimal obviously but i have verbal fights with my friends all the time and none of us would call our friendship ”toxic” for it. Physical abuse is at a completely different level.
@mrflibble5203
@mrflibble5203 Жыл бұрын
I'm so happy people are talking about this case as if its an actuall case filled with awful events, not just a one sided meme about how stupid Amber's dog stepping on a bee was. This should be interesting. (love your videos btw)
@ghostpurr9570
@ghostpurr9570 4 ай бұрын
even withouy knowing anything about their relationship abusers don't target rich popular strong confident older men who don't have a single weakness to abuse
@BattyButtercup
@BattyButtercup 7 ай бұрын
I'm always grateful for how this channel doesn't END with Horrible Truths. There's always a "forward" to activism already set up, to programmes designed to help people help ourselves. News doesn't "end" with after a Factual Presentation: it goes home with us, whether we're aware of it or not. The vague psychology of "depressing news is depressing" is probably why television news always has at least one "breather" piece. A cute baby animal or some "local" tomfoolery. The kittens are cute and all but a namedropped cast of currently working activists? Citations included? Surprisingly more empowering.
@coagulatedsalts4711
@coagulatedsalts4711 4 ай бұрын
johnny didn’t do good stuff, amber didn’t do good stuff. i think they need therapy.
@suelen9993
@suelen9993 9 ай бұрын
I thought "let me just click anything while I eat my lunch, I wont pay attention anyways" now I feel like I've been shot in the knee and my life will never the same. Thank you for the informations!! I knew a bit about many of those things but never saw how they connected to each other!
@bluebell-hu1wg
@bluebell-hu1wg 16 күн бұрын
26:30 this is exactly what infuriated me about the trial. It sets up all victims of domestic violence, such as myself, to face even more skepticism and criticism of their experiences than they ALREADY did. It told us women only use these accusations to ruin the livelihood of good men, and it tells us that if Amber Herd was lying whose to say the next person isn't. It just destroyed the credibility of DV survivors and disadvantaged them in a court system that already does not stand up for them. Johnny Depps case has nothing to do with social justice, and everything to do with perpetuating the status quo. But the argument that surrounded it told every man and his dog that it was CHALLENGING these social norms when it was doing nothing but perpetuate it. It told people who genuinely care about survivors of Domestic violence a twisted narrative that only served to disadvantageous other victims in the future.
@loftus4453
@loftus4453 Жыл бұрын
It’s scary how much influence/power social media has. It’s a subtle version of the Matrix and just as dystopian. Great video!
@Sn4fu
@Sn4fu Жыл бұрын
I love your sense of humour! I'm able to watch a video about a potential soul crushing tech dystopia, but like I don't feel the isolated doom and gloom that comes with it. Thanks for the tone / framing and sense of humour in this video!
@digdigdigo
@digdigdigo Жыл бұрын
it was really fucking weird. no matter how much i blocked videos related to the trial, i kept getting those reccomendations
@xWood4000
@xWood4000 Жыл бұрын
The biggest problem with paying is that the companies would likely take the money and make money on ads because that's more growth
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