Hello, sorry for my English, I,m French. As a woman, I'd played rugby, and one of things that we learn in first, il the respect of the referee. Even if the decision seems to be unfair, that's the referee, so, you shut your mouth, and, you go away, And, the referee explains what he do, and that's ok. Thanks for yours videos, that's a great job. Merci et bravo.

Oscar Wilde: "Rugby is a game for barbarians played by gentlemen. Football is a game for gentlemen played by barbarians". Also: "Rugby is a game played by people who are hurt, pretending they're not. Football is a game played by people who are not hurt, pretending they are." Football bores me to tears and makes me angry for both those reasons - it seems players get paid as much for their acting ability as their playing ability. Part of it is culture, part of it is football refs don't have the tools...

Basically the French referee is saying: « there’s 15 seconds left to play, can you behave until the end ? »

Ah yes the Barnes & Goode comedy duo, that whole match was just a 80 minute hilarious dialogue between the two

4:40 Its New zealand rugby. The guy is TJ Perenara, he had realised that a mistake had been made by the ref and wanted to let him know. Might have come across as a bit of back chat but it actually has gone down as a great moment in rugby with the respect going both ways between player and ref.

I would pay good money to be Yellow Carded by Nigel Owens.

Andy Goode, the player you wondered was a professional sportsman, came out of retirement for 3 months as injury cover for Newcastle Falcons. He had actually played professional rugby for 18 years and is the second highest scorer in the Premiership. He also has 17 caps for England.

Andy Goode was always on the chunkier end of the fly-half spectrum. At the end of his career, he joined London Irish, but retired due to injury before he could play for them. That probably would have been it for him; however, some months later, a spate of injuries left Newcastle without a credible 10 to field. Goode, whose injuries had healed somewhat, came out of retirement to sign for them. After so long out of the game, he had, shall we say, a considerably greater 'presence' on the pitch :-)

At 4:12 "It's obviously ozzy rugby"

Love how Goode is even getting abuse on here 😂 he is well known for looking like a pub team player but actually played for England with that gut. Bit of a cult icon.

Nigel Owens. Legendary level of refereeing the game. I'm from the southern hemisphere and have huge respect how he manages games.

19:37 This was during a six nations game between Italy and England. Italy, who are known for being the punching bag in the six nations, had devised a strategy to completely counter the normal method of play and give them a chance to beat England who were looking very strong. The strategy was, that by never putting a man into the ruck after a tackle, there is no ruck formed, which meant there was no offside line and the Italian players were free to stand in what looked like completely offside positions and essentially block and passes from the scrum-half clearing the ruck out. England seemed utterly bewildered by it and were repeatedly asking the referee to explain what was going on. To which he basically replied "I can't be your coach, it's up to you to know the rules and realise what's going on". After the competition it was ruled that all tackles would become rucks regardless of if the opposition decides to contest them and thus there would always be an offside line. This was because the Italian strategy was somewhat game-breaking and completely ruined the flow of the game. With no ability to pass the ball England had to resort to just pick-and-go every time (like you see when teams battle for a try 5 meters out) and it made for very boring rugby.

Football has rules, rugby has law's. Ref has all the power, there is nothing to argue about.

I completely agree with you in Referees/Officials are a part of the game! Cos if you don't know who they are, you won't know who the good refs are lol .. "A good referee will have you forget there was a referee in the game" Nigel Owens

I think that one of the reasons rugby refs get the respect from players is that when soccer players were kids they would often play informal games where there was no referee (and goalposts were jumpers) and the decision on whether it was a goal or wide or a penalty was decided by by which ever team intimidated into accepting their point of view. This rewarded players for this behavior giving them a bad habit that many carried over into the senior game, that is they think they can intimidate a ref into a diffferent decision which almost never works. Rugby is never played by kids in this fashion, there is always a ref and any kid who tried intimidating a ref as a kid got marched back 10. Kids learn quickly not to argue especially when your own captain reads you the riot act after the ref has because its now a easy penal;ty to kick not the difficult one the opposition had before you opened your mouth.

This is union. League jerseys usually have a "V". There is also a difference in the fields. Union has a half-line. 10 meters, 22 meters, and the try line. In league, there are 10 meters spaces. 10, 20, 30, 40, and 50 meters on either end of the halves.

18:11 The pink and orange kits are from New Zealand, we also have Specsavers sponsor the Refs. All Rugby Union

Once again why I love this sport Rob. I am a Chelsea FC fanatic, I love football, but rugby is simply amazing... brutal, but played by gentlemen and ladies.!

One of the primary laws of rugby is respect, for your opponent, team mates and ref. This is what make Rugby more disciplined than football. The ball boy that Mr Owen's yellow carded got a gift afterwards and only got carded because the match had been played in a very friendly and respectful way. Mr Owen's said that he wouldn't have done so.

Rob: I love sarcasm from referees Rob: SpecSavers every time! I just don't get it Ref to anyone who disagrees: (points at sponsor logo)

We Rugby players always look like we’ve been caught and are getting put on the naughty step 😂😂 aye you know the more cheek the further up the field you go

4 minutes in is I believe Australian Union referee Angus Gardner being schooled by Hurricanes and All Blacks half back TJ Perenara. One of the things that is required to climb the ranks in NZ rugby is smart players, those fully aware of the rules and the intelligence to stay within them or at least work right on the edge of what is acceptable. I don't know if it is the same in football, but as I understand it, at senior levels the captains in rugby have a meeting with the referee in the week leading up to the match. At this time the referee defines what he is looking for from the players during the match, the captains then relay this information to the team. It is then on the players to stay within the laws and they know which areas the officials will be focusing on.

the last football ref who was as big as the game was Pierluigi Collina, his manner on the pitch brought him respect from all.

Hi Rob It's against the core values of Rugby to try and get another player binned or sent off. Barnes as usual nails it straight away.

That was TJ Perinara correcting the ref, NZ rugby union half back. Very very knowledgeable player.

I was taught the best way to referee is with a smile on your face

Hi Rob. The reversing decision in Rugby usually occurs when an original offence is penalised but after the penalisable event there us a second offence that also warrants a penalty. Very often ( but not always, referees judgement) this results in a penalty reversal, especially if it involves 'bad behaviour'. The 10 meters penalty is especially significant in Rugby as it us a game where field position matters enormously.

the clip at 20:20 was during an England-Italy game and Italy confused the English players by not committing any players after a tackle had been made, this prevented any rucks from forming and allowed the Italian players to stray "offside" unpunished (one of the strange rugby union laws) It had been done before on odd occasions during games, but Italy were doing it from the beginning of the game and the English players did not know how to deal with it. The best part was when England captain, James Haskell, asked the referee what they could do and he said, "I am a referee, not a coach"

The way Rugby gets this sort of respect is that it is drummed into players since they were about 8 years old. And by the parents and coaches as much as anyone else. Many of whom are former players who want to continue the traditions of the game. Same with respect for opponents. At my son's club from about 8-9 years old, the opposition were clapped off the pitch and then the two teams shared a meal and awarded each other's man of the match and had a pint race (orange squash obviously)..

i think your last comment about remembering who did what and when he did it is the most insightful thing you have said

23:47,I just noticed, the Ref was talking to Brian O'Driscall and Ronan O'Gara.

The one with the schoolmasterly ref doing the exaggerated pointing, this was during the period where the refs weren't mic'd up and there weren't big screens in the stadia, so when something controversial happened, referees had a series of hand movements to designate different offences (you still see these to this day, the motions for holding on and diving in, for example). Where there were discipline offences, however, there weren't specific gestures so a referee might do these exaggerated mime-style gestures so that the crowd understand what is going on.

Reversing penalties is a very useful tool as well as the 10m march back. But the Ask Tell Penalise approach works well. Cards likewise especially a yellow is a management tool to sometimes stop someone doing something stupid. By having them sit on the naughty step for 10 mins.

25:31 the pointing was for the crowd since that was before Referees where Mic'd Up.

Yeah! We stuck around and loving your reaction..lol 👍

We generally don’t point as it’s seen as aggressive and antagonistic. You can ‘point’ with a flat hand (fingers closed). Btw, Rob, love your videos. Good to see things from a football ref’s perspective.

Classic Illustrations of the old truism that "Rugby is a Game for Thugs, played by Gentlemen..!" I will always remember South African Springbok "Lood de Jager", 6ft4inch 100kg. plus "Man Mountain" standing head bowed, whilst being reprimanded by 5ft8 inch referee, and then responding " Yes, Sir.. Sorry Sir...!"

We used to have an ‘up 10’ in field hockey but we now manage it with a green (2 min sin bin).

I absolutely love your videos reacting to rugby 😂❤️🇿🇦🇿🇦

16:20 The League is Super Rugby, Rugby Union, between the Chiefs and Hurricanes in New Plymouth. Chiefs were technically the home team, but since New Plymouth had been a Hurricanes City for a while it was more 50/50. Great atmosphere in the crowd and included Batman going mental on drums whenever a try was scored.

Also, I love seeing that You Sir, as a football ref has a couple of Rugby balls in the background there. Now, I don't know if this is your usual setup or if it's just because you're reacting to a Rugby video, but still... Good on you Sir. 👏👏👍👍🙂🙂🇸🇪🇷🇴🇸🇪🇷🇴🍺🍺

Respect for game is what makes Nigel Owens a true legend. He couldn't be more of a legend if he'd worn 10 for Wales and won a 6 nations. Really, should be Prince of Wales, or Taulupe Faletau

At 17:50 it was the famous ruck thing in England-Italy match: Italians kept not entering after the tackle and english players kept not understanding that thing meant different rule, allowing the italians to get on the ball without making a faul. It lasted for almost an entire half before the english players understood it. The referee at some point told them “I’m the referee, not your manager!”. Fun thing in a top international level match.

the one with the player in yellow (resene 9) is TJ Perenara who played for the Hurricanes in NZ which is a super rugby team (union)

The number 9 with the yellow/black jersey is TJ Perenara. He (and his team for that matter) is from NZ. He plays for the Hurricanes in Super Rugby and the All Blacks. That’s rugby union.

The sin bin is the best deterant, managers would soon stop the back chat

The 1st yellow shirt was the hurricanes, nz union super rugby team (southern hemisphere competition)

Would love to see you react to another one of these videos with the rugby analyst

Green card in my right pocket, yellow in left and red in back pocket. On one occasion of a horrible tackle, I was going to give a 2 min green card but could see that the player was going to challenge it. SO, I reached for my back pocket. This was greeted with horror by the players which turned to relief (and laughter) when I brought out a hanky, blew my nose and told the player not to be stupid and then brought out the green. They player was so happy not to get the red that he ran to the sin bin without complaint. Job done! Shame that football refs don’t have a sin bin option.

4:21 is Aussie ref Angus Gardner and New Zealand rugby union player TJ Perenara

03:02 " ...There's 15 seconds let to play on the half game, are you able to play correctly? we goin to view again, there will be a penalty to blues, we ask to stop de game, i will stop it but its gonna be to late." thats what this referee sat.

At 4:30 is nz player vs aussie ref in super rugby union

The ten steps towards the infringer's try zone, is (one of) the best way(s) to silence undisciplined players.

You are taught to respect the ref at a young age playing rugby. A true gentlemen's game played with odd shape balls.

MLR has gotten much better now.

Don't know if you've seen the tackle that higson got sent off by James child for but my goodness how he even attempted to complain about it is beyond me.

a rugby ref is like a 5 foot nothing mother talking to her 6 foot son he might be bigger than her but she is still the boss

I gobbed off to a ref playing rugby after getting studded in the leg so hit the player. It escalated and the ref basically said "we're not at school if you want to act like you are then you won'tsee the end of the game.. or shake hands and get on with the game". Bought him a pint in the bar afterwards.

In all fairness some of the pink kit is worn during breast cancer awareness month. SA cricket team plays in full pink during such games.

4:00 is NZ Hurricanes (and All Black) Mr TJ Perenara using his legal training and people management skills to explain the rules to the ref in a calm way. (He is possibly less gobby than many half backs... but he's still a half back!)

The game was union and it was the Nz team the hurricanes captain who was talking.

In AFL, the emphasis is on keeping the play alive and moving. So stopping to talk to players is not a priority if it would penalise the team that would receive the free kick/advantage. Is this also the case in soccer? I think the way rugby is played actually gives it the opportunity to 'prioritise' a good lecture from the ref although that would still not happen in rugby if advantage is paid. There are more opportunities for 'stoppages' in rugby than AFL or soccer.

Most scenes demonstrate the old adage. Football is a gentlemen's game played by ruffians. Rugby is a ruffian's game played by gentlemen.

Hi Rob... historically (and I am speaking here of monochrome television times) football referees were asked to have the yellow card in the breast pocket and the red one in the back pocket, so that people on the telly immediately knew whether players were sent off or only booked... that even minted a term in German 'die Arschkarte ziehen' which maybe translated literally as 'to draw/pull the ass card' which is used metaphorically to someone who is at the bitter end of the rope...

I think the Welsh referees are the best , and funniest

As a referee it's vital, that the uniforms don't clash, with either teams' kits so it's understandable for the odd colour choices. I personally think having Specsavers as a sponsor is incredibly clever marketing, and I like the pink kits quite a lot.

I would be interested to hear your thoughts on the Pat Lam incident from Tigers Vs Bristol Saturday just gone. It’s caused quite a stir, I’m personally livid as a rugby fan it’s up there with bloodgate

Talking of pink kits: the Blue Bulls (one of South Africa's toughest Super Rugby teams) spent one season in an entirely pink kit. It did not go down well. 😁

You should see US Rugby Referee Scott Green. He's pretty good.

That pink kit was for union, it's for the super rugby.

you can move a penalty forward for back chat

Football fans riot if referees had this much power

Normally, as you, good sir, have seen in the rugby game or games that you have watched, after the tackle and release of the ball carrier, the opposing team, which is on the defense, will challenge for the ball. What the Italians did is quite the opposite. Instead of doing that, they were able to set themselves without having to fear for an offside to be called against them. Clearly Haskell didn't know about it and that is why he "confronted" the referee about that.

the one with the pink ref kit is a union game and I may have been at that game

I think the respect for the ref comes from the fact that rugby is taught in schools by our the teachers.

The difference is that real men have respect

Goode came out of retirement there for a few games

@Rob - Curious question. You point out regularly through this vid with words along the line of "rugby referees have the power to X and in football you do not". I wonder would you like the power to march a team 10m forward for backchat or unsportsman like behaviour? I have often heard the argument that would not work in football, I do not know why it would not. If it was introduced and refs implemented the law it would work. If the 10m march forward puts you into the box then its a penalty, I do not see how that would not work. Would you like to book players for back chat? I have often heard that the whole team could be booked and sent off for backchat, yes initially that may happen but it would soon stop when matches are abandoned and points awarded to other teams. Just curious on your thoughts.

The pink and the bright orange kits are NZ referees kits

I would love to see you referee a rugby game and come back and report on your experience I think you would make great rugby ref because I would like to think it would be an enjoyable experience for you.

The pink kit was for breast cancer awareness.

Hopefully react to some 7s next time would be interesting to see your reaction to.

En rugby el arbitro tiene la autoridad de un padre. Si tu le prestas atención verás que esa es la forma en que el arbitro les habla a los jugadores. Es la máxima autoridad en la cancha y no está sólo para impartir justicia sino también para cuidar a los jugadores. A mi me enseñaron que el árbitro siempre tiene la razón por más que esté equivocado y eso facilita el desarrollo del juego. Muy buenos análisis, te felicito y te mando un abrazo desde Salta, Argentina.

Get this man back in rugby. That’s Alain Rolland. He’s been the world rugby referees boss for the last few years. Was well respected as a ref, although the welsh don’t like him.

It's a hooligans game played by gentlemen sir.😉

I already see the difference in how we treat the refs differently in both sports(rugby and football). In rugby it’s Sir whilst just ref in football. Also, the way we speak to the referees. In rugby we question whilst we push the referees for decisions in football. So much more respect for the referees in rugby.

There are cautionary tales regarding referees with personality. Bill 'Hollywood' Harrigan was an Australian Rugby League ref who rose to the highest level, was media savvy and was sure he could do no wrong. But he often did and struggled to accept it when he made mistakes, at least during his heights. While he wasn't Leslie Nielsen as an Umpire in The Naked Gun level of theatrics his ego was a bit of a problem, at least to anyone who valued the rules over celebrity status. I certainly think refs need to be able to be themselves on the pitch, but showboating might be a thing to be wary of in some referees. Of course the same thing can be said of many a player, especially in the theatrical world of association football. Showboating aside, the impression I get from these Rugby Ref complications is that the referees are not only confident in themselves as someone who has authority and deserves to be respected, but confident in their governing body. I can't imagine trying to ref a game and make the hard but fair calls that are sometimes needed if you aren't completely sure that the governing body will support you if a player or team spits the dummy afterwards. I'm not suggesting the governing body defends bad calls, but they will defend the referee and his position. Obviously bad calls need to be analysed but that is an internal matter and should have nothing to do with the players or teams.

TMO helps with who did what and when also

Andy goode came out of retirement to play for Newcastle due to player injuries

Nigel Owens in a league of his own !

It HAS to be this way in rugby. The game is so confrontational, it's always just a hair's breadth from breaking down into a mass brawl. When the ref says stop...you stop! I REALLY hate it in football when players crowd the ref and the REF is backing off, trying to get the card out. That and the the melodramatic appeals to ref. Ugh!

11.50 is Scotland

Jp Doyle excellent referee, made redundant, hope he comes back

Specsavers sponsor the football refs in Scotland aswell

Do a nicely owen video. Best ref ever

It's an old cliché, football is a game made for gentlemen played by animals and rugby is a game made for animals played by gentlemen.

If they gave refs a microphone in soccer the players would soon shut up Look at the arsenal game with David Ellery

26:31 was the only only one from league

Amazing video...... Also why can't great ideas like reversing a decision be implemented in football?

The basic explanation for the England players was due to a very sneaky Italian tactic of exploiting a loophole in the laws that no one had seen used before. That loophole no longer exists as a result.