Versus Series: Bastila Shan vs Ahsoka Tano

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Rob Terra

Rob Terra

5 жыл бұрын

Sorry for the delay on this one guys with school and work finding time to edit these is becoming harder to find! Anyway's I'm proud to present Bastila Shan Vs Ahsoka Tano!
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@justyouraveragejoe9454
@justyouraveragejoe9454 4 жыл бұрын
I agree that Bastilla would more than likely win, but I do disagree with a few points. The biggest gripe I have is the perception of Barriss Offee as a bad combatant.
@bluehero-96
@bluehero-96 4 жыл бұрын
She's not bad, but she wouldn't be able to ambush Ventress and walk away. That whole storyline was bogus.
@elderliddle2733
@elderliddle2733 3 жыл бұрын
Not really, I could compare it to Zannah. Barris fell to the Dark Side but was able to fake a light side aura to avoid suspicion. However once the fake aura was dropped, no one would be able to recognize her aura. Plus, every time ventress was ambushed, it was by a light side user, not a dark side user.
@ForklifterMatt
@ForklifterMatt 5 жыл бұрын
Loved this one bro! Well edited and written, and I love the matchup itself. Great presentation of the final verdict as well, and I agree with your conclusion.
@tnntaronewsnetwork4514
@tnntaronewsnetwork4514 7 ай бұрын
Not as technically flashy as the likes of EvanNova or something but I think it is criminal I never encountered your channel until you had long since left it. Great video!
@ariesstorm9577
@ariesstorm9577 5 жыл бұрын
Is it just me, or is Niman a pretty descent style to use on the battlefield (despite all Form VI users dying during First Battle of Geonosis)? It is both practical and versatile in my opinion.
@TheDen-ec9xe
@TheDen-ec9xe 5 жыл бұрын
Depends on how you apply it. It is, after all, the style preferred by Jedi Consulars, more concerned with philosophy and diplomacy, so that's the perfect style for someone who doesn't like fighting but still wants to know how to defend. Which is why so many Form VI Jedi died at Geonosis. However, if amped up to the max, Niman can be as deadly as any other form, by exploiting its randomized and varied nature and going medieval instead of moderate. Look no further than Exar Kun, Revan or Darth Krayt. This is why I agree with EvanNova95's assessment on unofficial variants of Niman.
@KumaoftheForest
@KumaoftheForest 5 жыл бұрын
Just don’t use is on geonosious
@bluehero-96
@bluehero-96 4 жыл бұрын
Most of those jedi represented the worst aspects of Niman practitioners, in that they hardly practice at all. Darth's Maul and Krayt represent the best of Niman practitioners because they hone their skills to the best of their ability and keep pushing their abilities further.
@dazdavis7896
@dazdavis7896 7 ай бұрын
@@bluehero-96Darth Maul is a KNOWN Juyo practitioner. He rarely used niman, as a supplementary form. No, Exar Kun and Darth Caedus show the best of Niman. Along with Krayt yes. But then Revan & Kao Cen Darach show the tactical mindset of adaptability of it. Like this kid says, it comes in 3 different utilizations. The other not mentioned here would be somebody like, well, those who were Niman users that died on Geonosis who were mostly consulars and used it to have a jack of all trades style to set them up the best while not putting hard time into martial combat and instead followed/practiced esoteric force powers... BUT, in Geonosis there were guys like Joclad Danva. Who is directly noted as one of the Jedi Order’s most gifted duelists. He ONLY died because he was shot in the back while boarding a gun-ship. He DID survive the ground combat. So not everyone of them were just consular archivists who had no business being there. Many of them were overrun by multiple super battle droids. Their army was huge. Any other Jedi order would’ve been wiped out completely in that battle. The Prequel/Clone Wars era Jedi - the twilight of the old order - are directly noted as the peak of the Jedi order in terms of martial ability. An era filled to the brim with Apex level swordmasters.
@toasterstruddlegamez4734
@toasterstruddlegamez4734 5 жыл бұрын
Great match up getting the laddies involved love it Keep up the good work
@RobTerra
@RobTerra 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks Toast!
@nexus8796
@nexus8796 3 жыл бұрын
Good channel. Nice to see someone do some of the old republic characters instead of the same characters over and over. Theres plenty of characters to do, so doing the same over and over appears lazy. I'm a swordmaster who also teaches sword and weapon combat and I see form 1 shii-cho as a foundation re-enforcing her form 6 niman technique.
@TrajGreekFire
@TrajGreekFire 5 жыл бұрын
> against Bariss few days with no food or water
@TheDen-ec9xe
@TheDen-ec9xe 5 жыл бұрын
And without her shoto, which she grew very dependant on.
@analothor
@analothor Ай бұрын
Starkiller lasted a whole damn week with no food/water and still blasted his was through a small army of stormtroopers
@michaelkoy4735
@michaelkoy4735 5 жыл бұрын
Interesting match up. But I don’t believe that Shan has a massive edge in the force. Ahsoka is less advanced in the force, but her practical powers in my opinion rivals Shan. But anyways, nice video and I agree with most of your points. What about K’kruhk vs Satele Shan for a video.
@RobTerra
@RobTerra 5 жыл бұрын
K'kruhk I have plans for very soon!
@michaelkoy4735
@michaelkoy4735 5 жыл бұрын
Rob Terra Great. I always through K’kruhk was a very interesting character. But to bad he always loses each versus video he’s in.
@yrooxrksvi7142
@yrooxrksvi7142 3 жыл бұрын
@@michaelkoy4735 Bastila has Force Stun and her telekinesis is much MUCH stronger than Ahsoka's, other than being more lenient on using it.
@TheSunStudio1
@TheSunStudio1 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with your conclusion. :) Do Qui Gon Jinn vs Aayla Secura please.
@yrooxrksvi7142
@yrooxrksvi7142 3 жыл бұрын
Complete mismatch, Qui Gon stomps.
@macattackk
@macattackk 5 жыл бұрын
Depends on when you are considering Bastilla. During the events of KOTOR she was still very young, and Ahsoka would likely win fairly comfortably. As a Jedi Master Shan was obviously far more powerful, likely above Ahsoka, but the problem is that she doesn’t really have many feats at this stage in her lift, so it’s hard to assess the true extent of her capabilities. Still an interesting matchup.
@shane2077
@shane2077 5 жыл бұрын
We also still haven't seen ahsoka at her prime
@macattackk
@macattackk 5 жыл бұрын
Shane Tamngin her duel against Vader seems to be her prime. That’s when I was referring to her as anyway. It’s possible she became more powerful post ROTJ, at least in the force, though she would also be out of practice with a lightsaber at that point, and probably rusty in a duel.
@shane2077
@shane2077 5 жыл бұрын
@@macattackk oh yeah I completely understand. Bit honestly from seeing her at the end of rebels it looks like she has gotten leaps and bounds more powerful with the force. But lightsaber abilities, yeah I am not sure about them. I personally think that she will end up taking the role of the daughter in some way, shape, or form but hopefully we see soon🤞🤞🤞
@yrooxrksvi7142
@yrooxrksvi7142 3 жыл бұрын
@@shane2077 She pretty much reached her peak at Rebels, and in The Mandalorian, she's at the end of her physical prime, as Ataru has become more of a support for evasion, as she now favors Shien and Niman more.
@shane2077
@shane2077 3 жыл бұрын
@@yrooxrksvi7142 out of her physical prime? How so? Force sensitive yogurt as can live up to 200 years old plus she will only become more powerful within the force as she ages where she would likely use force augmentation like yoda does in order to make up for aging so she really hasn’t reached her prime.
@TinyTorah
@TinyTorah 5 жыл бұрын
4:20, OFFICIALLY (I believe in both Canon AND Legends), there is no such thing as a Grey Jedi. It's more an idea. And, as far as the Grey Jedi Code, pretty sure that's fan-made. 6:09, we ultimately don't know whether she KILLED him, or merely knocked him out. 6:13, is it in the text/dialogue somewhere in the game that explains Bastila carrying Revan over her shoulder while the ship they were in was exploding around them? Otherwise, what source are you pulling from to claim she carried him over her shoulder. 6:44, whoa whoa whoa! You think Bastila was possibly in her teens during KOTOR, but you think Ahsoka was roughly 40??? Where are you getting that Ahsoka was roughly 40 years old at the end of Rebels? Doesn't Rebels take place prior to A New Hope, which is, like 17 years after RotS. Ahsoka was still in her teens at the end of TCW, and The Clone Wars ended during RotS... so, at best Ahsoka is in her 30s, mid-30s at the oldest. Regarding the dueling round, I definitely would have Ahsoka as a superior duelist than Bastila. You're overblowing how impressive it is that Bastila managed to not die immediately against the likes of Malak and Revan. Fact is, neither Malak nor Revan were trying to kill her. Bastila's a DECENT duelist, but her forte is in The Force, not lightsaber combat. Ahsoka, on the other hand, has gone toe-to-toe with some of the best duelists of The Clone Wars era (Ventress and Grievous), and they WERE trying to kill her, and this was Ahsoka over 10 years before Rebels/pre-prime. And taking her in her prime in Rebels, she, as you mentioned and showed, took on Vader sometime between RotS and ANH (likely much closer to ANH), and she handled herself against Vader FAR more impressively than Bastila did against either Malak or Revan. 18:14, it should be noted that the Temple of the Ancients on Lehon is a dark side nexus (even thousands of years later in Path of Destruction), so, while we don't know to what degree, Bastila would have been amped while Revan, Juhani, and Jolee would have been hindered. It's still an impressive Force push/wave/repulse no matter how you look at it. Context however helps shed light on the feat to present it as... not QUITE as impressive as it seems on the surface. Regarding the Force round, while I too would give the overall edge to Bastila, I don't agree that Shan is more powerful per se. I think they're roughly comparable in POWER, but Bastila has two main and rather major advantages: 1. She has a MUCH larger array of Force abilities at her disposal. 2. She uses the Force, both offensively and defensively, far more liberally than Ahsoka does. You're mistakenly associating how powerful Bastila was in battle meditation with her overall power. Certain Jedi are prodigious and inanely skillful and/or powerful in one area of the Force, while being either rather average in other areas, or sometimes even pitiful in some. Not only that, Bastila has not shown to utilize battle meditation while in the midst of combat, so it's kind of pointless in this 1v1 context. That said, Bastila still likely has the edge over Tano due to the two reasons I gave above. Nah, I have to strongly disagree with your verdict. It seems part of your reason for why you lowball Ahsoka is because she had difficulty against Barriss Offee. Thing is, Barriss isn't as bad as you seem to think she is, and Ahsoka was disadvantaged going into that fight. Pretty sure she was down a lightsaber, and at the time, her preferred fighting style included TWO lightsabers as opposed to her one saber she used in a reverse-grip in the earlier portions of TCW. Not only that, but Barriss had the advantage of knowing her surroundings, which she used to extreme success in their fight. Given all the factors at play, it's easy to see how, had it been a much more even fight, Ahsoka would have almost certainly won, and arguably without too much trouble.
@bluehero-96
@bluehero-96 4 жыл бұрын
I do agree that Ahsoka has a greater advantage over Bastila, however, most of her advantages stem from Filoni's nepotism instead of natural character growth and worldbuilding. TCW Ahsoka is about the same tier, post-TCW she's a light Mary Sue.
@brokenknight4938
@brokenknight4938 3 жыл бұрын
The bullshit is strong with this one
@Kinetic_Animations
@Kinetic_Animations 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely not. You can't use the fight with Bariss posing and Ventress as a proof/source. Ahsoka's powers had greatly increased from then to when she faced vader, and even after. Remember, Ahsoka was able to temporarily hold off Darth Sidious' Sith fire or whatever you want to call it. Once Ezra joined in, then pushed him back for the moment. Ahsoka almost defeated Darth Vader. You do not give her enough credit. I will say that Batila was very powerful, since she was able to contend with Revan and capture him. Ahsoka was also able to deactivate the 7th Sister's Lightsaber which was no small feat.
@Tyrosine0910
@Tyrosine0910 5 жыл бұрын
Ahsoka never almost defeated Vader..
@Tyrosine0910
@Tyrosine0910 5 жыл бұрын
She managed to get in one good shot when he was turned away from her, but besides that, was dominated by him
@yrooxrksvi7142
@yrooxrksvi7142 3 жыл бұрын
While I agree on the Barriss duel, nothing really shows that Ahsoka's powers have increased significantly. Experience, yes. Power in the Force, no. Palpatine's Sith alchemic fire is NOT his Force lighting, and she was barely able to hold it. She DID NOT "almost defeated" Vader, she contended with him and kept him at bay, but he was on top. What deactivating the saber of a puny trash Dark Jedi even prove ? She did a similar trick by overcharging the crystals of the 6th Brother's saber, who was even worse. That's like saying she was able to steal a mobility chair from an elderly person.
@brokenknight4938
@brokenknight4938 3 жыл бұрын
@@yrooxrksvi7142 yeah I agree plus bastila also fought off jolee and juhani who are both on parr with revan at least the kotor version not reborn or dark.
@yrooxrksvi7142
@yrooxrksvi7142 3 жыл бұрын
@@brokenknight4938 Not exactly on par, but close. Still, much more impressive feat than the clown Inquisitors.
@jacobheckman1444
@jacobheckman1444 2 ай бұрын
Tano would win . Her ataru was Anakin s improved version. On top of having yoda as an instructor. Shes a force god . And well thos was only three years of Anakin s training. But we can agree that Anakin s grueling regiment would at least double this . Bc she survived jedi hunters killing dozens of jedi masters and council members
@jacobheckman1444
@jacobheckman1444 2 ай бұрын
And I think she's mastered fighting against staff weilders......mastered
@matthiasmccormack3213
@matthiasmccormack3213 5 жыл бұрын
This should be a Bastila Shan cakewalk
@bluehero-96
@bluehero-96 4 жыл бұрын
Mmm. Cake. Now I'm imagining Bastila shoving a cake into Ahsoka's face and it brings me joy.
@masonguthrie1257
@masonguthrie1257 4 жыл бұрын
While I do think that there is a lot of value in looking at both opponents skills as they were learning I think it is unfair to Ashoka to note some of here weaknesses in the clone wars when she clearly got much more technical and strategic in her fighting style. Though still keeping to the form 4 ideals,
@bricehammel7648
@bricehammel7648 3 жыл бұрын
Pros and cons I agree with shen using Ataru, and niman. You did not quote any books or other material for some of this video. It sounds like you used your opinion not facts from the material.
@lordeon3968
@lordeon3968 4 жыл бұрын
Ahsoka wins in a good fight. Bastila was able to fight Revan for a time but I was more impressed by Ahsoka's performance against Vader. Vader couldn't defeat her decisively. I think they are close to each other in terms of force abilities. I give Bastila the slight edge for her various force abilities. Ahsoka is clearly better than Bastila in terms of fighting skill. I wasn't impressed by Bastila's fighting skill. So, I give Ahsoka the edge for her superior fighting skill. They are close to each other but I'd say Ahsoka for a slim majority.
@bluehero-96
@bluehero-96 4 жыл бұрын
"Vader couldn't defeat her decisively." Hmm. Didn't Ezra save Ahsoka from certain death at the last moment with the "not time travel" time travel?
@yrooxrksvi7142
@yrooxrksvi7142 3 жыл бұрын
Close my left foot, Bastila has more viable options with Force Stun (you know, the very same power Kylo Ren popularized ?), Whirlwind and a far more powerful Force Wave than Ahsoka's. Ahsoka might be the better duelist, but Bastila is stronger in the Force.
@lapplandkun9273
@lapplandkun9273 Жыл бұрын
@@yrooxrksvi7142 Also, she only contended with a casual Vader who had the ulterior motive of wanting her as an inquisitor. Once she established she wouldn't join him, he quickly overpowered her.
@baki484
@baki484 9 ай бұрын
"Vader couldn't decisively beat her" last I checked Vader pushed Ahsoka off the temple proceeded to get the holocron from Ezra and Kanan (taking his sweet time mind you) allowing ahsoka to get a cheap shot when his back was turned. Don't get selective she couldn't get through Vader's blade defense. She almost lost her head due had it not been for Ezra. Cere did better against a Vader than Ahsoka ever did. She lost both rounds even after she damaged Vader with a cheap shot. The verdict is perfect.
@analothor
@analothor Ай бұрын
Oh please ahsokas powers are laughable, vader was practically playing with, anyone who can put other jedi into stasis won't struggle with the likes of tano
@masonguthrie1257
@masonguthrie1257 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t agree with your point about Ashoka pauses at alll!!!! She doesn’t pause when fighting ventress or grieves or the mandelorians the only time she “pauses” is when she is looking for a new enemy which is why I don’t agree with this fight at all.
@thespacecowboy8254
@thespacecowboy8254 5 жыл бұрын
Creative but a bit pointless all things considered
@armaniwebb8132
@armaniwebb8132 4 жыл бұрын
Ahsoka slaughters. By the time of rebels the only beings who can stand to ahsoka are sidious and Vader. By this point she is powerful enough to disrupt a users kyber crystal to turn off their lightsaber or blow up the hilt killing the user. She could also subtly change ones posture and grip using the force during combat. It is said Ahsoka has grown so powerful by Rebels that she does not need a lightsaber to fight and can redirect and block lightsaber strikes with her hand. She was a prodigy even as a Padawan leading the most successful military unit in star wars the 501st and being trained personally the most gifted, powerful, and skilled Jedi to ever be born Anakin Skywalker. I would say season 7 ahsoka is powerful enough to defeat bastilla and if not atleast put a good fight and have bastilla running.
@bluehero-96
@bluehero-96 4 жыл бұрын
This is mostly do to Dave Filoni's nepotism for his OC. Ahsoka ain't that great.
@armaniwebb8132
@armaniwebb8132 4 жыл бұрын
@@bluehero-96 might be your opinion that ahsoka isn't great but let's recap her accomplishments: 1) was trained under plo koon, a high council master, until she reached Jedi Padawan status 2) Has trained under the chosen one and would have become the youngest knight in Jedi history, beating her own master by 2 years 3) Has dueled and survived Grievious twice and survived ventress. 4) Has led the 501st across arguably one of the greatest war campaigns In galactic history. Conquering ryloth, alderan, Christopher's, geneosis, aswell as onderon and many more. 5) Has fought with and saved Cham syndullas life, has advised and trained Saw Guerra, has worked with the legendary cad bane. 6) she has executed a flawless Marg sabal in space combat against general trench, which thrawn would later use in the beginning of heir to the empire. 7) Has helped in destroy the undestroyable malevolence. 8) She has defeated Pre Viszla, weilding the dark saber, in single blade combat. A feat on par with revans execution of mandalore the ultimate. 9) She would later comeback with a fraction of the 501st and reconquer Mandalore aswell as overthrow maul and deathwatch 10) She defeated Darth maul in single blade combat and would go on to capture him. 10) survived order 66 and still kept her composure as a jedi All this she done as a teenager and is just the beginning of her life. She has been to Mortis and conversed with the gods of the force wether she remembers or not, she has walked the world between worlds and has seen timelines and fractures in the force, she has deflected sidious sith sorcery, she has encountered and spoken to the bendu, she has witnessed the great sith temple of malastre, she has survived against Darth Vader in single blade combat, has survived the malastre super weapon. SHE WAS THE FULCRUM THAT THE REBELS WHISPERED ABOUT. Besides Luke she is the last traditionally trained Jedi that we know of in the galaxy....ahsoka the white(wise). To say she ain't great...man your standards are ridiculously high lol
@bluehero-96
@bluehero-96 4 жыл бұрын
@@armaniwebb8132 1. A good teacher doesn't automatically make a good student. Nor does a good jedi guarantee being a good teacher. What you are arguing for is greatness by association, not the merits of the student. However, I like Plo Koon as well and in retrospect he should have been Ahsoka's master throughout the war, so I'll let it slide. 2. Same rebuttal as the first, but in Anakin's particular case, he was never confirmed to be the chosen one in-universe until Return of the Jedi. Anakin is also too reckless to be left in charge of a padawan 3. That would be an accomplishment if Grievous and Ventress were a threat in TCW. However, they are repeatedly nerfed for the sake of plot that without their non-TCW appearances they would have been forgotten. 4. Most of those engagements were under the supervision of jedi generals and clone commanders. Ahsoka didn't win those battles by herself. Again, greatness by association. 5. Didn't Anakin and Obi-wan also play a part with Saw Guerra? 6. Meh. It's not like Thrawn learned the trick from her. 7. If I recall correctly, Ahsoka was barely relevant as a gunner in the crippling of the Malevolence, with Anakin and the clones doing all the work with the proton torpedoes. Then Anakin sabotaged and destroyed the Malevolence by himself an episode later. Again, greatness by association. 8. Pre Viszla is not Mandalore the Ultimate, or close to being on par with that Mandalore. That Mandalore was capable of defeating jedi knights, while Pre Viszla couldn't beat a padawan. 9. Yeah, that was cringeworthy, particularly when the clones painted Ahsoka's face on their helmets. You might think it's endearing, but it's really tacky and kinda racist. 10. Again, power levels are inconsistent in TCW, so that's not really an accomplishment. 11. Kept her composure? As a jedi? Did you forget that she openly renounced the jedi in front of Vader. She also ran away every opportunity she had. That's not very jedi-like. At least Yoda and Obi-wan had Luke's wellbeing and training as an excuse. Ahsoka has none. I have more respect for Ezra and Kanan for actually doing something positive with their talents than Ahsoka. When evil reared it's ugly head, she boldly turned her tail and fled. Yes, brave Ahsoka turned about, and gallantly she chickened out. Bravely taking to her feet, she beat a very brave retreat. Bravest of the brave, Ahsoka. You get the picture. I'm calling her a do nothing coward. Talking with Force "gods", more greatness by association. Discovering the world between worlds only after Ezra found it and saved her life with it, more greatness by association. Palpatine's sorcery shouldn't have been a factor since he couldn't get into the chamber and therefore shouldn't have had an effect on it. The bit was just tacked on to the scene to add drama. Talking to Bendu isn't impressive at all. Malachor, not Malastare, and again, Ezra saved her from both Vader and "the weapon" exploding, so that's not an achievement on Ahsoka's part. Ahsoka's position as Fulcrum also didn't amount to much, and not much changed after she was replaced. To praise Ahsoka based on her association with other characters your standards are ridiculously low.
@armaniwebb8132
@armaniwebb8132 4 жыл бұрын
@@bluehero-96 you are just downplaying what she done, out of some saltiness. She is not Rey, hence she isn't all powerful from the start. What you neglect is experience, failure, and guidance. Her battles on the planet were with generals however she learned from that. She learned tactics, strategy, and trusting the force. Hence why she led her own fraction of the 501st on ryloth, alderan, and many more. You downplay her battle with pre Viszla even through mandalore the ultimate fought and killed no name Jedis, regardless Viszla gave maul a good fight and shows he is a skilled warrior able to fight sith, ahsoka defeating him shows her level of patience and skill. You downplay grievious and ventress, yet if you read dark disciple you would know the countless sabers both of them had from all the Jedi they killed, if you watches season 1 of clone wars you would have also seen all the lightsabers in grievious lair. You downplay Anakin yet it was his training that led her to greatness. Did you forget rebels showing anakins holocron teaching modifications to the classical Ataru form? Yeah forget the holocron, he taught her that in person. As far as her renouncing the Jedi, ofcourse she isn't a Jedi. Luke himself said the flaws of the Jedi, and so did Yoda in TLJ. Regardless it was her detachment from the order that allowed her to gain insight. Don't try to mix timelines, I said she acted like a Jedi IN ORDER 66, How are you going to grab a quote 15 years later and connect it to that? Stop being salty. If you watched clone wars and rebels ahsoka is worthy of grandmaster level.
@bluehero-96
@bluehero-96 4 жыл бұрын
@@armaniwebb8132 I'm not downplaying anything. You're just putting Ahsoka on a pedestal. Viszla couldn't defeat a single padawan, Mandalore the Ultimate has bested knights, including Malak. Grievous has trophies from jedi who's deaths aren't specified, and run in conflict with his portrayal of incompetence for the remainder of the show. Nadar being the only jedi Grievous managed to kill. At least he's a point ahead of Viszla and Ventress, who have zero jedi kills or victories in the show. By your own logic, Plo Koon would have taught Ahsoka her martial arts skills prior to becoming Anakin's apprentice, so your mistake of conflating her skills with Anakin's are twofold. TLJ is shit and discounted automatically. It doesn't even have anything to do with this conversation. Saying Ahsoka is worthy of grandmaster status is ridiculous and just shows your bias.
@mayckonwolf
@mayckonwolf 3 жыл бұрын
Ahsoka stand against maul and vader,Maul kill a lot of jedi,jedi knight and jedi masters,more accurate Qui Gon,you see jedi fallen order is canon and the guy don't even have a chance to point his saber in the end and Ahsoka could stand against Vader incredible well,she is a better duelist than Bastila,Bastila is very offensive but lack defense letting her more vulnerable,Ahsoka was trained by Plo Koon and Anakin,since maul would kill Bastila by playing with her. Now force powers Bastila kinda win,her stasis ability would not be enough but her force push techniques would be a bit trouble "maybe" for Ahsoka,in the end is hard to say but i think that Ahsoka would end the duel by disarming Bastila because of her lack of defense.I go even futher and say that Ahsoka would beat Malak as well on a single combat,Bastila faced dark jedis and not alone,Malak lost for a non user force.
@dazdavis7896
@dazdavis7896 7 ай бұрын
Bastilla Shan is a known/noted Form 1 user. She’s not a niman specialist. She may have some Ataru training as well but she’s largely a Shii Cho specialist. Also, I don’t see Her as Tano’s “equal” as a duelist AT ALL. Ahsoka is WELL above her level. Anybody that can hang with and survive encounters with Darth Maul & General Grievous - both vastly superior swordmasters to Revan, or even Malak, and anybody else in that era - is going to handily outclass Bastila Shan as a swordmaster. She ISN’T a swordmaster at all. She IS a gifted duelist, but she’s not a true swordmaster. And Tano was apprenticed to the greatest swordmaster in galactic history in Vader. She’s thoroughly more skilled as duelist than Shan is. Shan is much more of a consular than the stated sentinel that she’s supposed to be…. BUT, like her husband, she’s a prodigy as a tactician and always knows what to do and when to do it. I think she could outdo Tano IF she can hold her off blade to blade. Which is a big if.
@twistedj8609
@twistedj8609 4 жыл бұрын
disagree entirely
@DanieleMulas-up7np
@DanieleMulas-up7np 4 жыл бұрын
Based on or according to what ?
@bluehero-96
@bluehero-96 4 жыл бұрын
@@DanieleMulas-up7np Probably on Ahsoka's Mary Sue-like qualities post TCW. Filoni was always nepotistic for her.
@DanieleMulas-up7np
@DanieleMulas-up7np 4 жыл бұрын
@@bluehero-96 Oh, in that regard,I agree. Ahsoka has been turned into a shameless pet character that somehow lived through all eras of SW, yet never encountered the OT heroes. Yet everyone pretends Filoni is a flawless genius.
@yrooxrksvi7142
@yrooxrksvi7142 3 жыл бұрын
@@bluehero-96 After The Mandalorian and what they've announced, yes, Filoni favors her WAY TOO MUCH.
@brokenknight4938
@brokenknight4938 3 жыл бұрын
@@bluehero-96 I’m so glad that there’s one non biased person in these comments there is an overwhelming amount of ahsoka biased bullshit in this comment section
@analothor
@analothor Ай бұрын
Wow the constrast between force abilities is laughable, tano really is a nothing burger in term of using the force
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