Yes and the red sounding one is sounding faster too. :D

Originalbeatsproducer YnZ haha and selling faster no doubt too!

I thought It sounded a bit smaller to be honest

@@originalbeatsproducerynz4920 Red always makes it faster!

LOL

I just got a ms-1. It's a no brainer.Brainerd. awesome synth. Hard to make sound bad

I would pay $900 for a faded, 40 year old Roland logo with wonky, disfunctional 40 year old electronics. The funny thing is back in the day, the SH-101 would've been considered a cost reduced, 1 VCO budget synth with s*&t build quality!

Indeed. I've owned 3 101's and loved them, absolutely adore and respect the epic sounds and records that created the foundation for house and techno in the 80's and 90's, but they all failed due to age and light build quality. Owning one at home is one thing but taking them and the others from that era on tour is another. One drop or pothole or bump and they break

Exactly.

Spot on. 👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾

Agreed, especially considering how ridiculously overpriced vintage gear is these days. I have an SH101 I inherited from a friend who passed away, and while I love it for both the sound and sentimental reasons, it would simply would not be worth the price to buy it today when this much less expensive clone gets it so right (obviously collectors are going to want an original, but for performers I would not hesitate to recommend the MS101 over the SH101. When you buy vintage gear, you're also buying decades of potential wear and tear.

lo siento por tu amigo Eastjinks ,una de las cosas ,ya que suena practicamente igual y todos sabemos que los sintes analogicos no suena iguales entre si,tiene fm,algo muy necesario hoy dia para sacar texturas nuevas,a mi me flipa,si tuviese dinero tendria una mansion llena de sintetizadores mesas digitales analogicas compresores limitadores modernos antiguos efectos de todo tipos todos los moog,los modulares ,todo lo tendria todo y por que??no lo se,pero me flipa cada variacion en las texturas que pueda darte un efecto un osc ,me flipa y me enamoro de las texturas y la gente no me comprende,le enseño dos pad iguales,practicamente,pero yo oigo en cada uno de ellos algo el el otro no tiene y viseversa ,amo la musica y amo la variedad sutil o exagerada o media o sus miles de variaciones,soy un frikazo,y esta maquina de behringer la quiero,todo lo que esta sacando behringer lo quiero es asequible,ya tengo 3,deepmind 12 teclado,neutron y model d,y ahora voy a por este,en 5 o 6 dias me llega ademas el rojo infierno,ni negro ni azul ni gris ni verde,ui verde no hay,bueno quiero el rojo ejejejjejejejejejejjeje,toy fatal de lo mio lo se,hoy no tomé la medicacion,disfrutad de cada milesima parte de segundo de una textura que os pueda ofrecer lo ,hoy dia hasta un peo es usable y puede ser bello, es la magia,si buscais algo de lo que hago hay poco unas 12 aprox en soundcloud en youtube solo dos en mi canal y sueltas que pilla la gente y les hace un video,aparte de perder un disco de tres tb, estaba formateando y se fue en ese momento todo mis proyectos no 3tb de datos de proyectos ,era mucho menos pero estaba en ese pu.. disco,y no pude rescatar ni un wav,fué algo mecanico,aparte tuve un accidente casi mortal y estoy en silla de ruedas,paralitico,pero estoy terminando un disco fusionando los dos mundos el analogico y el digital,en tipo bso,aunque puede entrar lo que sea en una banda sonora,se llama la banda sonora de mi vida,explico paso a paso con instrumentales mi vida hasta ahora todo es melodico con un bonus de musica relajante de una hora y las versiones originales y cantadas contando mi viaje por esto que llamamos vida ,a ver como sale ya hay 7 tracks completos + bonus faltan 4 mas que dos estan casi y dos sin empezar y cantada solo una por ahora a ver que sale de todo esto jejejejejejejeeje y disfrutad cada segundo que os brinda la vida y la musica,(y muchas cosas mas😉)saludosssssss

Yeah Roland are being cheapskates

Roland did it with the SH-01a.

@@synthetic24 not analog though. No two analog machines will ever be identical, but you can’t do that with software.

@@NunyaB1s Behringer is not good in analog, it sounds very thin and not convincing. Roland did it much better with their real official reissue (SH-01A), it has that typical sound and sweetspots. Fake Behringer sounds nothing like the original Roland's. That (wannabe Behringer) toy has nothing to do with the Roland SH-101/SH-01A instruments. Sorry for the reality...

@@synthetic24 the original 808 sounds thin and unconvincing. What you hear on records is the result of added compression/limiter to make the kick and snare thicker. Did you listen to the same test here? The only major difference here is the filter wobble which is a symptom of failing circuits. It’s notable that only the sh-101 player was able to knock the sound test out of the park. And no, if Roland “did it right” we’d have an all-analog synth. Not a vst plugin in a cheap enclosure.

Yeah its really other worldly. I curious on how he makes them

Ahaha, that was truly hilarious indeed

I did not skip them!! 😁

I didn’t skip them because I couldn’t.

I didn't skip them because i didnt get any

The bloody add was in the middle. And it was boring and i keep seeing it

That was really funny. I was about closing the video, couldn't close after hearing that

Yeah, it's the best time ever to be a synth enthusiast.

Behringer have change my studio . I'm not a great producer that can spend a lot of money for the best gear...but now i have an odissey, a tr 808 and a tr909 for 1000 euro this is the only good thing that the new century have become....the rest is war around the world

You're the fucken Kush guy. I love your plugs dude.

@@charlieaydin1377 House of Kush I'll second that. dope plugs.

Your plugins rule! Kaya FTW.....Would love to see that plugin appear on iOS for portable....

Good point.

​@@anthonybrettTB-303's are kinda notorious for having individual characters. That's why nobody agrees that those clones sound the same. Because a lot of people have different ideas on the (albeit subtle) nuances. Back then quality control was way more crap. Those old machines can be cranky.

​@@theothertonydutch Totally agree. Tolerances in electronic components back then were generally in the 5% range, worse again if you looked at only Capacitors. Theres actually a lot of swing in 5%. Nowadays tolerances of 1% to 0.1% are more standard, as manufacturing techniques got better and we moved to SMD components. Technically speaking, science wins here. If I emulate a circuit perfectly, there can only be one outcome. The only difference you should hear will be tolerances.

@@anthonybrett Honestly it is a bit of a problem in my opinion. Takes the personality out of some instruments. I prefer my gear a little bit shitty. :P Korg Volcas are trash, but they all have sweetspots. I also like that they're so damned cheap. I really hope people will come up with good mods for Behringer gear. That's my main gripe with the Volca stuff, there's not all that much you can do to SMD without fucking up the whole board.

Yupp

Thanks! Just sayin' I didn't gloss over it - there are many features I didn't mention - I did mention that because I thought it was indeed important

check out my interview with Suzanne Ciani on the channel - full frontal face reveal...

Jesus christ someone get this man a DI box.

It doesn't take batteries

It's actually caused by a switching power supply. My SH-101 was very sensitive to this, when I used a more expensive power supply it was gone. So that might be helpful 40 years in the past.

Funny that’s exactly what my wife says about me

Indeed ;) scopes by Melda

This would make a good test for the Behringer. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e6pdn8Z-1M2sqIE.html

I ever prefer to buy something that I would spend less money. But something We have to think about is the duration of the components. Behringer uses components that, sometimes, loses their capabilities sooner then we spect, like knobs and sliders. Even thought U$900 is such a big difference.

@@cyrotelles7265 Not really the case anymore - the parts they use is the same in Moog etc, usually the same SMD components from... the same chinese factories. They should last a long time. To make things funnier, companies like Elektron, DSI etc. are using coolaudio chips, which is part of behringer.

Unless you go for a red or blue SH-101, they're rarely over 700-800. I got my grey SH-101 for 700.

@@AshBashVids Good to know. Thank You!

@@AshBashVids and not know how much life it has left in it. With JV-1080's catching fire from shitty capacitors that are finally popping, and various other vintage gear reaching the end of their 30-year lives. At $300 for one or $600 for two...you know you get at least another 20 years and you could keep one boxed and shelved as a back-up if the first one fries and consider it a 40-60 year sound investment. Me personally? I'm lucky if I have another 20 years in my life, so the extra $400 I just don't see the appeal. There's tons of issues with chips going bad on older gear across all companies. These replicas/clones/wtf-evers not only allow for an affordable entry for those of us who can't afford to or generally can't justify dumping that kind of money on a piece of vintage gear, nor want to get involved in the immediate upkeep that often comes with said gear. In perfect conditions an SH-101 should last nearly forever. That means never having a single power fluctuation, no gigging, no smoke, rare dust, and only run for as long as it's rated for on the components. How many SH-101's out there have been in such perfect conditions? One? Maybe 2? Pretty much if isn't unopened, it's lifetime is unknown and being 30 years now, it's sitting in it's nursing home. I'd grab me a clone. Now, I'm off to order fuses that blew on my old Ensoniq.

Scopes by Melda!

Sure - scopes by Melda

Maybe we can get a follow up video in 30 years?

@@s90210h Given the build quality of the Deepmind, a follow up could be due in three to four years. (A friend's Deepmind has sliders and an encoder that create ghost values out of nowhere, without touching them. They also make wild jumps from low to high values upon just touching them. This after two years of light use. Programming it is an aggravating experience!)

Except, they don't brake for no reason. Roland's built like a tank

Yes, the Roland will last longer... but you can almost buy a brand new MS with a warranty for what it costs to repair a SH. Or, spend the same amount of money on 5 MS's instead of 1 SH, and put the others in storage. When your first MS breaks when out of warranty, take one out of storage and so on and so on.

Because the SH will go up in value.

KiR-3d nah ms sounds fatter so that’s more important to me

@@georgegeorgio1751 very hard to recognize which is which on the blind test. At least saw sounds filtered sounds very similar. Strange that they've made a shorter env. for MS. Maybe it's for snappier short sounds... don't know. If the env. had a usual scheme then it's easy to change just by changing a capacitor.

Yeah the SH is sort of self-oscillating at frequencies that don't match a harmonic, whereas the MS is only boosting the actual harmonics - probably because the SH's max resonance is higher than that of the MS, but maybe the filter design could influence that too, I don't know.

Yes, i had the Sh101 and playing with those harmonics is beautiful. This sounds like a HUUGE difference to me.

Thanks very much! I agree that it would have been great to compare the Boutique too but unfortunately I don't have one and couldn't get it in time (for the 303 either). Regarding the 101 boutique, I tried it once standalone and I think it sounds great. Since it's polyphonic I'm sure any nuanced differences would be irrelevant compared to the flexibility of being polyphonic and I'd go with it unless you're an "analog purist"

Thanks! No plans for that currently...

I gave it back and the jam was just an off the cuff thing recorded a couple of days later - would have loved to jam with the MS too

Bug Man not if it costs more room

Yess

Hi, I use MOscilloscope and MAnalyzer by a company called Melda - they’re free with some limitations in the MFreeFXBundle. Occasionally I’ll use scopes by VCV

nobel 11 yes.

Thanks! Just Comet Reverb from Polyverse on the “Goldilocks” preset

Hi, I use MOscilloscope and MAnalyzer by a company called Melda - they’re free with some limitations in the MFreeFXBundle. Occasionaly I’ll use scopes by VCV

Thanks! I returned both after making this video - so if it's not here, I don't know

It’s my secret weapon for synths with only one LFO

@@WHIPTY I know the guys do, Mmmmmm!

Scopes by Melda - See links in description

Hi, I use MOscilloscope and MAnalyzer by a company called Melda - they’re free with some limitations in the MFreeFXBundle

Im Isak, used to be musician, now i just make sounds :) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oahke6d8nrqbY5c.html

I had a broken cs-50 that sounded so weird and good... fixed it and was never able to recreate those wonderful sounds again...

Thanks - scopes by Melda - links in description (free download)

@@loopop Oh! duh. Thanks