Rolex Deepsea Sea Dweller D-Blue vs Grand Seiko Spring Drive Diver SLGA001: Rolex vs GRand Seiko

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3 жыл бұрын

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The Grand Seiko Sport Collection Spring Drive Limited Edition SLGA001 dive watch is encased in 46.9mm of titanium surrounding a deep blue dial on a titanium bracelet. Features of this Grand Seiko Sport Collection Spring Drive Limited Edition include hours, minutes, seconds, date and power reserve indicator. This Grand Seiko watch also measures 15.7mm in thickness and 50.8mm from lug-to-lug.
The Rolex Sea-Dweller Deepsea "D-Blue" 116660 dive watch is encased in 44mm of stainless steel surrounding a blue to black gradient dial on a stainless steel Oyster bracelet. Features of this Rolex Sea-Dweller Deepsea diving watch include 3,900-meter water resistance, helium escape valve, unidirectional dive bezel with ceramic insert, COSC Swiss chronometer certification, deployment clasp with Rolex Glidelock and Fliplock dive extensions, hours, minutes, seconds and date. This Rolex watch also measures 17.9mm in thickness and 51.9mm from lug-to-lug.
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@VmanStudioz 3 жыл бұрын

Tim - titanium does not hold help well to screw use over time. It’s a compromise manufactures have to make when using titanium. It’s not an issue that has to do with being cheap, but rather material consideration that is made when choosing to manufacture with titanium.

@treykasia127 3 жыл бұрын

That is a fantastic reply sir. Very helpful info to explore for ourselves. Thank you.

@pukenanginang 3 жыл бұрын

James cameron all day no question!

@nathancortes3722 3 жыл бұрын

The SLGA001 also comes with a dark blue silicone strap, that's how I wear mine. 5 day power reserve with a temperature sensor inside to account for temperature changes, I'm at 0.0 s of timing discrepancy after 1 month on the wrist. It's actually the first piece with the 9RA5 movement inside, this makes it a valuable collectible.

@nathancortes3722 3 жыл бұрын

@Gentry Fry BVIAS Yes I sure am! You can still find them new, 700 have been made but it's a brand new model & movement, definitely worth it.

@user-ng2xs4qj3l 3 жыл бұрын

@Gentry Fry A month has passed since the purchase on April 13 (tailored for 4 p.m.), but there was no error. It's been 45 days now, but there's no error.~~~~I can't believe it. We'll see how long this will last

@toadamine 3 жыл бұрын

My $500 seiko sarb045 (6r15 movement) has been running dead on for months now... to the exact second... I haven't wound or set it in months and its still exact dead on to the second to my cell phone clock...

@nathancortes3722 3 жыл бұрын

@@toadamine Seems like a very lucky specimen you got there from the factory

@eijiroinouye4115 4 ай бұрын

I think the helium seals will last forever

@saillaw2 3 жыл бұрын

This is very timely video for me - I purchased an SLGA001 yesterday and because I am currently overseas, had it shipped to my Dad, who owns a Deep Sea James Cameron. It will be about two months before I get to collect it from him, but it will be interesting to see which of the two watches he lets me take away :) (I’ve told him he must wear the GS on a regular basis to make sure there are no warranty issues before I leave.). I really like the deep sea but always found it a bit too too heavy for me since I wear my watches a bit on the loose side (keeps spinning around to the bottom of my wrist). As much as I fully agree the DS has by far the better bracket and clasp, if it were mine I’d need to switch it to a thicker leather or rubber strap that provides enough traction to keep it from spinning. I didn’t have the same problem with the GS in the 5 min I wore it around the botique. I think it’s the combination of the case shape and titanium that just makes it feel more wearable to me than the DS. I love them both! Now I need a Planet Ocean.

@bige311 Жыл бұрын

If you think the DS is heavy I own a Planet Ocean 45MM and it is heavier than the DS. DS feels much lighter to me though but I am a bigger guy with an 8" wrist.. cheers

@larry.l 3 жыл бұрын

Tim ramping up the Versus episodes the probably the best thing happening in 2021.

@henrywest7217 3 жыл бұрын

I can't pick. I think that these two models are the epitome for their particular makes. They're both excellent!

@hugohernandez3651 3 жыл бұрын

In order to afford a Deepsea JCE, I had to let go both a Submariner and a Milgauss. 2 years have passed and no regrets whatsoever. The dial, the bracelet..simply gorgeous. Chunky? Indeed...titanium...ceramic...white gold...platinum...and steel...and it is not as popular as the Submariner and the SD43.

@davidursini4740 3 жыл бұрын

Nothing is more accurate than a spring drive watch. I have 2 of them and they are both +5 seconds/month. GS all day. You'll be waiting 3 yrs to get a Sea Dweller.

@ericweis9771 3 жыл бұрын

It’s close. Both are amazing. It’s GS for me. Great comparison vid. Thanks.

@tonyfu2200 3 жыл бұрын

The clasp on that $12k GS is totally unacceptable.

@aldojacobi6007 3 жыл бұрын

I agree 100% & that is the ONLY thing ROLEX has mastered over this GS ($11K) in this comparison....SLGA001 is amazing in the metal!

@Rockthespaceship 3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. I will never understand why Seiko stubbornly refuses to mill the metal.

@aldojacobi6007 3 жыл бұрын

@@Rockthespaceship I hear ya! :)

@treykasia127 3 жыл бұрын

As a Seiko LX owner~ I agree. But that's one of the reasons why I chose the LX over the GS. Almost same watch at 1/2 price. And it's also a GPHG winner.

@mfmantica 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely. The whole watch looks very generic and the clasp embarrassing.

@robinschneider5350 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly the review I have been waiting for. Well done Tim!

@JB-xt3ly 3 жыл бұрын

Love your videos Tim but one day you’ll get that you can bend the clasp release back on the Seiko to adjust the sizing

@leesimpson1677 3 жыл бұрын

I dived from 1969 until 2015 and in all that time, I never saw anyone in the water wearing a Rolex.

@jswede1 3 жыл бұрын

You obviously weren’t down past 3000 meters. 😜 I kid.

@jonandresen1483 3 жыл бұрын

Really? They are quite common in my experience.

@__silver__ 2 жыл бұрын

Pretty rare indeed not sure why, weirdly enough I've seen more GS wearer than Rolex wearer divers a few years ago when I'm still diving regularly. Omega and Breitling is the most common though talking about higher end watch

@dandessner1947 3 жыл бұрын

I was thinking about the Grand Seiko and this video made me pull the trigger. Ordered today from my favorite AD, watch was in stock, got a very nice discount over MSRP, free shipping, watch will be here in a few days. Try that with a Rolex diver. Not only do I prefer the Grand Seiko (no offense Tim), but I prefer to do business with an organization that respects the customer. Disrespecting the customer seems to be a core brand value and marketing strategy at Rolex.

@wukillah 3 жыл бұрын

The day the demand for GS will equal Rolex’ we’ll see. I think that one can only respect rolex for not compromising quality to meet increasing demand.

@ericrebhan8041 3 жыл бұрын

I just got this GS and love it

@fredchoi5613 3 жыл бұрын

I got the same GS a month ago, I'm very happy with that watch. I have no complain at all.

@the1916companywatchreviews 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks guys! If you don't mind, click through to our website and write a review of the watch. Our customers love to read about the real world experience of others when shopping for watches. Here's the link: www.thewatchbox.com/shop/Grand-Seiko-Sport-SLGA001.html Thanks in advance!

@eijiroinouye4115 4 ай бұрын

Is it 🤔 good for daily wearer?

@treykasia127 3 жыл бұрын

The GS looks better on your wrist Tim. This is a fair & thorough review... Fantastic job as always Tim. For my collection I wanted one refined Dive watch, actually for rec. diving~ from my finalists: GS SLGA001, S-Dweller 43, Pelagos LHD & Seiko LX SNR045... I chose the LX. The rolly & tudor both (easly) have a better constructed bracelets ("structurally imposing" is a good description). Although the GS & LX have a more easily functioning bracelet for diving and the (huge) crown is better for gloves. The the LX (particularly the SNR045) is a MUCH more interesting watch than any of them. Pelly LHD owns the best design. SD has the gravitas. The GS is the best finished. But the LX is the best package for a refined and most USEFUL dive watch. The only down side to the SNR045 (green dial & bezel)~ I get ALOT of unsolicited and unwanted "hulk" references... And in those cases, I'm sure to take off the watch for them to hold and look at the beautiful dial that kills any dive watch competition... And follow up with: "If I wanted a hulk, that's what I'd be wearing."

@styx4947 3 жыл бұрын

Love that "trap door". too bad more companies don't use elements of the watch or bracelet like that. Also the same can be said of the "ring command" bezel on the Sky Dweller.

@williamstalvey6920 3 жыл бұрын

I will be glad to choose the watch James Cameron wears, whom knows everything about diving and has been wearing the best divers watch for nearly 30 years; first, being the Rolex Sub and then the Deepsea. Says it all, Rolex! Nothing but excellence!!

@horologywatchmaking13 3 жыл бұрын

Good divers watch, yes The best? No.

@kevorknourian5442 3 жыл бұрын

Both great watch for me Personel choice always Rolex

@Dronetothetop 2 жыл бұрын

You don't buy a watch as an investment. You buy a watch to enjoy and reward yourself. To me, nothing beats Spring Drive.

@fishstickssrn3909 3 жыл бұрын

Another great video Tim!

@frankmastromauro5630 3 жыл бұрын

Good video - I’ve been wanting to learn more about SLGA001

@aldojacobi6007 3 жыл бұрын

Quite a few vids here on YT - I've repeatedly watched them all over & over - LOL

@styx4947 3 жыл бұрын

I love the WBR vs because You never try to run game about what people want in a watch. not everybody is a watch enthusiast, call it like it is. Perfect analogy for Rolex, 90% of buyers for that watch buy for the Brand

@alfonsopartida901 3 жыл бұрын

In my opinion, a technical and quality comparison can always be "contaminated" with the cost ... if it is more expensive, obviously more quality is expected. Cost-value is a different analysis, since it can allow to have similar product characteristics but at a convenient cost. Rolex is a brand that endorses luxury status, perhaps GS is not in the same proportion, but its quality is indisputable. Thanks Tim

@MidAtlanticTV 2 жыл бұрын

Actually the pins and collars are a superior solution for bracelet adjustment. More robust and less wear on the center links because the pins freewheel.

@kamchinwong Жыл бұрын

I'll take the Grand Seiko SLGA001. 5 days power reserve and +/- 10s per month is just mind boggling watch making prowess. Look and size wise they are close.

@mathewazzopard8100 3 жыл бұрын

New to the channel, thank you for the well worded and presented comparison. Despite my respect for the GS and the spring drive accuracy, the 600m of the GS are no match for the 3.9k. The SD DS is a heavy and tall watch, and even though the latest version with 22mm lugs wears better than the 21mm early versions, it's still not very comfortable. It's nearly 18mm height isn't the best during winter months but the WR rating is such that the tall case was inevitable. I own both 21 and 22mm and can say that none can be my daily beater. The GS , which I do not own looks great and for me would have been ideal if the case was max 44mm. The large cases imo are a thing of the past, moderate sizes are and will always be more appealing. A German Sinn U1 with 1000m WR is at 44mm and with a relatively slim case. Why would Seiko build such a bulky watch...

@wagyubeef925 2 жыл бұрын

I have the rolex, I would Definitely get the GS one day.

@leomarsic9814 Жыл бұрын

I love Seiko, I bought the last marinemaster 300 on which they removed the inscription and killed the soul of the model that that name carried! 3000 euros is my limit for Seiko! I own a rolex deepsea jc and sea-dweller red! it is impossible to compare a quartz movement that loses 30% of its value while it is still in the store and an additional 50% as soon as you buy it is in vain! the feeling when you put on a rolex is light years from a seiko! they raised the price 10x and the quality is below 3000 euros! and that's why I can't move forward! hi beet with the inscription marinemaster sold with a superb bracelet in a monobloc case would be a step forward !only a fool would choose seiko over rolex

@MustaffaCuppa 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Rolex - could you fit more text on the dial and make the it thicker - said nobody ever.

@Rockthespaceship Жыл бұрын

Both too big for me, but if based on looks, the GS takes the prize. The GS movement is also clearly superior. On another note, Rolex is an odd company. They put a cyclops on the Sea-Dweller but left it off this Deepsea? Makes absolutely no sense, which tells me that putting it on the Sea-Dweller was completely unnecessary.

@Marshal77 2 жыл бұрын

18:40 He picked DS over GS , due "luxury reasons" like bezel sound and bracelet rattling sound...and adjustability of clasp.. And all this after stating GS is rational winner and how much easier GS clasp is to adjust. Well we all have different opinions, I pick GS any day over DS.

@sylinmino 3 жыл бұрын

I love Grand Seiko, but I wish their diver designs were better and more original. They look too much like Submariner and SeaDweller homages, when so many of GS's other designs are so unique and interesting. Even Seiko's Prospex divers are so much more inspiring.

@Kevins-Philippine-Retirement Жыл бұрын

Having already had a few Rolex models over the years, I have left in my collection a rare Rolex Datejust, so I understad the company and have gotten all the ego stuff out of my blood. My dream luxury watch right now where form follows function is nothing other than the GS SLGA001

@MrRoyck10 3 жыл бұрын

I will always go for originality, looking at both watches there are similarities so one must have copied or at least looked so long at the original whilst designing their own version. I am somewhat embarrassed wearing a Rolex in this day and time, but I will hedge on a Blancpain Fifty fathoms.

@Will-gq3kt 3 жыл бұрын

I’d honestly go with the deep sea I just love that dial and a good investment piece

@user-bg5gu7yh3j 11 ай бұрын

I'm very late to dance, but GS all the way. I have owned both, but that spring drive accuracy and the second hand sweep is awesome. Translate the "The case feels indestructible" to the Rolex weighs a ton, the GS in titanium makes so much more sense. SLGA001 is my everyday wear watch, and I enjoy it so much more on my 7.25 inch wrist than the Deepsea. The clasp is a little disappointing, the overall watch finish is worth the trade off. The color of the face of GS is absolutely beautiful. A month on the wrist and it has ZERO seconds of deviation. Bought mine new old stock at a steep discount, and it was 1/2 the price of a pre-owned deepsea (not like you could actually get your hands on a new one at list).

@rollotomassi7437 3 жыл бұрын

Nice effort but ..... Deep Blue all day.

@adamgreene831 3 жыл бұрын

I want that

@gambee_ 3 жыл бұрын

The case on that GS is so gorgeous.

@jaredblakecooper Жыл бұрын

im a grand seiko guy but no doubt that Rolex is more visually appealing (outside of the excessive feature ads on the dial). regardless, that Rolex is 2 - 3 times the price and definitely NOT 2-3 times better.

@jeffersonjefffitzgeraldgro7175 3 жыл бұрын

Rolex all day long!

@edwardblack7133 3 жыл бұрын

It's so hard to look past value retention of owning watches (pleural) and that clasp....that's said GS is a higher level watch IMO

@eijiroinouye4115 6 ай бұрын

I like the large size of the GS

@davidr2802 3 жыл бұрын

Warm vs cold butter. Both have a role in different baking recipes but in a dive watch I want cold!

@youndameamvs3993 3 жыл бұрын

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@ErikS- 2 жыл бұрын

2:24 I have a similar size wrist... ... and for me, this would be way too big unfortunately.

@TrumanBurbankFE 3 жыл бұрын

"Sure, I'm gonna pick the GS before a Deepsea", unlikely scenario. Appeals to two different segments. Omega PloProf is the natural contender for the Deepsea.

@tolgai.altunova5858 3 жыл бұрын

design of rolex is old fashioned compared to gs. I would go definetly with gs in terms of engineering and rolex in terms of snobism. a hard choice.

@nikomos6276 3 жыл бұрын

GS all day long, but that lumed counter balance on the seconds hand drives me nuts!

@kubectlgetpo 3 жыл бұрын

Only thing I don't like is the minute hands on GS

@precisionriflereviews2029 7 ай бұрын

Buy the Rolex to impress your mates and the Grand Seiko to impress your self.

@user-ln8hq4wt8c 3 жыл бұрын

There is way too much text on the Rolex dial

@williamstalvey6920 3 жыл бұрын

Then get you some mediocre watch with no text If you want get you a Timex ez reader

@Kevins-Philippine-Retirement Жыл бұрын

There is an argument to be made by both watchmakers and wearers in favour of high quality pin and sleeve bracelets versus screw pin bracelets for longevity and reliability, so I wouldn't write off that type of bracelet.

@diegom.8773 2 жыл бұрын

Rolex every day

@gasken2182 Жыл бұрын

That Rolex says mug me... mug me now. I'd be scared to wear that on the London Underground

@mikerotch6068 3 жыл бұрын

Not a fan of the bezel on the GS (Aesthetic)

@MattMorris481 2 жыл бұрын

I’m a seiko lover but if I had that kind of money I would just by both.

@Jsmashfq 3 жыл бұрын

Put a seamaster or a planet ocean between these 2 watches. Omega all the way.

@smilton9682 6 ай бұрын

GS all the way

@VoltLover00 3 жыл бұрын

Seiko wins

@tommasomoncini 2 жыл бұрын

Grand seiko...for all my life

@flynnjp19 3 жыл бұрын

For resale//investment value? ROLEX wins everytime. Can you imagine when that Rolex model, 126660, is discontinued??? The price will take off like a rocketship. Fantastic future investment wuth the best bracelet clasp in the watch world

@mrdan26261 11 ай бұрын

Rolex deepsea jc amazing grand seiko not enough high quality like rolex and omega

@aldojacobi6007 3 жыл бұрын

I love the GS - seen it many times & tried it on many times. The design is something to behold, same language as the 44GS, just beefier & more "contemporary". Technically it's a tour-deforce & it's damn sexy in a tool-watch kind of way. That sweeping SD seconds hand is mesmerizing, stealthy NAVY/BLACK (in some light) sunburst dial...WOW. You can talk "brand caché" all day long & brand recognition by those who aren't watch-nuts, all day long......but therein lies the problem with (cult of ) ROLEX (similarly to the cult of APPLE in a way...), just because it's popular, does not make it the "best" or most suitable. As Tim said, buy it even if you don't want it (WHY?!) & sell it at a profit (to a person who really wants to buy one?!)...why not pass on it & give someone else the opportunity. Me, buy a watch at over list price? - never! & life's too short to be spending months / years on a waiting list for something collectors tell you is "better" that another. There are better way more options out there if you look - but then again, I've never been a "sheep" & followed the popular choice.

@zillsburyy1 3 жыл бұрын

give me a seamaster!

@MOB34M 2 жыл бұрын

The watch world is like the wine world complete snobbery, if the Rolex had the spring drive in it, the watch world would be multi orgasmic,

@davidursini4740 3 жыл бұрын

FYI, your wrist is way too small for either watch.

@michalpotok 2 жыл бұрын

Do you really believe in He valve? If He comes in, why can't it go out via gasket?

@bob6916 2 жыл бұрын

Great review but it won’t be worth 17k in 12 months

@user-ln8hq4wt8c 3 жыл бұрын

Can I ask why you say that titanium is more scratch-resistant than steel? I always heard that it scratches easier

@BenTramer 3 жыл бұрын

My understanding is Grade 5 titanium (6AL4V) is harder than Grade 2 (unalloyed) titanium where Grade 2 titanium is more corrosion resistant than Grade 5. However I do believe stainless steel is harder than Grade 5 titanium. Would appreciate others input on this as well.

@nikomos6276 3 жыл бұрын

Depends on the grade. Grade 5 is harder than stainless steel, while grade 2 is not.

@fishstickssrn3909 3 жыл бұрын

Hah, there's no comparison

@criatorioaltamogiana-bicud2204 2 жыл бұрын

Rolex has a bilble printed on the dial, and petty ridiculous stuff like helium valve stated on a ring inside the watch, a hideous useless crown guard, 17mm high, and the price! You can sell it later for more if you can, but still.

@roserstefan 3 жыл бұрын

Desk divers.

@SharapovaFan Жыл бұрын

One is a glamorous tool watch, but a tool watch nonetheless. The other doesn't know what it's supposed to be.

@patrickbateman529 3 жыл бұрын

I'd take the Rolex, The GS' bezel makes it look fat and is uglier in general. Titanium is also a scratch magnet as the hardness is lesser than some steels. Especially the Rolex steel which is tougher to shape and more expensive. The Rolex is also water resistant upto 3,900 metres compared to the GS' 600 metres.

@HomerSimpson-bm7lz 2 жыл бұрын

The titanium on the GS is high density meaning its almost impossible to scratch it. Get informed.

@jswede1 3 жыл бұрын

An entire review ruined by the fact the reviewer can’t adjust for the “feel” of titanium.

@baysidelad1 3 жыл бұрын

Comparing the Seiko to the Rolex? HILARIOUS!!!!!!!!!

@nikomos6276 3 жыл бұрын

GS finishing blows Rolex out of the water. It is more comparable to the finishing on one of the Holy Trinity brands. Also, GS excels in technological advancements….and I’m not really a GS fan but it’s the truth.

@aldojacobi6007 3 жыл бұрын

@@nikomos6276 you speak the truth...ROLEX are so damn boring!!💤💤💤

@wukillah 3 жыл бұрын

I own both brand and as much as I love GS. There in indeed no comparaison. Rolex wins easy here. I hope you ll get the opportunity to hold a DSSD JC in your hand to see what im talking about

@aldojacobi6007 3 жыл бұрын

@@wukillah hey mate, I have many, many times. As much as I want to LOVE the DSSD, it leaves me cold. As do all ROLEX, I ought an SD43, as I've owned other SeaDwellers and ended up selling it..great build quality etc, but no "personality"....

@wukillah 3 жыл бұрын

@@aldojacobi6007 definitely respect your opinion although it s hard to deny that the dblue has personality or at least stands out. There are many reasons (all good in my opinion ) to love a watch or a brand. Status is one of them. And wearing a rolex is special, like poping a bottle of dom pe is special. Coming back to the comparaison of these 2 models, the GS feels boring and dull, the bracelet quality is not even close to the DS. At the end of the day, im a fan of both brands, own both, love both. But here, DS all the way

@andrewsayers6490 Жыл бұрын

Great review. However imo the GS is simply a far better looking watch. Better proportions and finish. The DSSD is still an ugly duckling. I also think that the world is moving away from respecting luxury brands. I and many friends who have Rolex choose not to wear them much as there is an undertone of uncoolness in displaying wealth. Grand Seiko flies under the radar here. I'm 50 something, have collected and loved my time with Rolex, however I think it's pinnacle has passed years ago. Too flashy now and the brand ruined by flippers. Love GS watches for all they bring too the market, and the fact you can actually buy at a dealer for retail or less.