Rolex Market Doomed? United States Enters Technical Recession.

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Watches & Giggles

Watches & Giggles

Жыл бұрын

In this video we continue on the series of watches and economics and how the US had two negative GDP reports back to back and we enter a technical recession. We discuss how this will affect the watch market now and moving forward for Rolex.

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@JohnnyLee-ki3dl
@JohnnyLee-ki3dl Жыл бұрын
Good now Rolex is not trading more than retail. We wouldn’t see flippers! Good news for watch collectors!
@whereRbearsTeeth
@whereRbearsTeeth Жыл бұрын
You’re confused.. Rolex is definitely still trading above retail.
@starsnstripesus1
@starsnstripesus1 Жыл бұрын
I really like the commentary on the economy and I actually feel it's very relevant to the discussion. I'm not a watch collector or anything...All I want is my Rolex Submariner (No date). I registered with an AD 2 months ago, and I'm hoping that this cooling of world wide demand will result in me getting my Submariner sooner than later.
@watchesgiggles5659
@watchesgiggles5659 Жыл бұрын
Hope the wait isn’t too long, it’s a wonderful watch and the only one you’ll ever need.
@aussieexpatwatches
@aussieexpatwatches Жыл бұрын
Flippers are gone... but the ADs havent gotten easier.... nor has it stopped July 2022 watches being listed on the grey market... Almost as if watches are going from ADs to grey dealers without flipper involvement 🤔
@whereRbearsTeeth
@whereRbearsTeeth Жыл бұрын
You are clueless, as usual.
@brcbrc1340
@brcbrc1340 Жыл бұрын
Love the economic talk and watches awesome content thanks! Subbed!
@underachievingwatchcollect1878
@underachievingwatchcollect1878 Жыл бұрын
I remember when KZfaq’rs were saying buy preowned Rolex below msrp-maybe those days are coming back? Best regards
@whereRbearsTeeth
@whereRbearsTeeth Жыл бұрын
Nope
@alannewland5933
@alannewland5933 Жыл бұрын
Chris. I realy enjoy your videos keep them coming interesting to get your take on whats happening in the US. All the best. Alan . Uk
@uhrenglueck2587
@uhrenglueck2587 Жыл бұрын
Interesting video! Thanks for your insights 👍
@100185261
@100185261 Жыл бұрын
Hey chris just stumbled across your channel and I can’t get enough of it! I just picked up a bluesy but it’s your interweaving of economics with the watch industry that’s interest me the most. Do you work in the financial industry or just have an interest in it? Love your videos! Keep it up:)
@sergebernard
@sergebernard Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. Please keep these videos going, thanks.
@lv293
@lv293 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Where did you get the gold crown from?
@BAF605
@BAF605 Жыл бұрын
It's only necessary to see what is happening to economies all over the World to realise that things will get a lot worse before they get better. There is no quick QE fix this time. I bought several Rolex from an AD last year and turned down one. So far this year I have been offered one and turned it down. I have only bought the watches I wanted in good times and bad. I'm keeping $35K in my back pocket. I expect to get offers I want as watches fail to sell. I've been around the inflation block before. I'd advise all to trim your monthly expenditures now by as much as possible (at least by the rate of inflation in your country) so that you don't end up in trouble and have to sell your beloved watches. In times like these a dealer will smell your need and you will be slaughtered!! 😉
@Nexus.Achiles
@Nexus.Achiles Жыл бұрын
ADs will carry on selling part of their stock in bulk to grey dealers because these are top clients for the ADs. The casual Rolex private buyer will come last on the list.
@williamrizzo1285
@williamrizzo1285 Жыл бұрын
Picked up my DJ 41 blue after a 6 month wait and we just picked up my wife's DJ 31 pink dial after over 9 months, it was her retirement gift. I'm on a list for the bluesy.
@watchesgiggles5659
@watchesgiggles5659 Жыл бұрын
Congrats to you!! Awesome pick ups! Hope you get the Bluesy soon!
@SteelmoonWatches
@SteelmoonWatches Жыл бұрын
Great chat
@aussieexpatwatches
@aussieexpatwatches Жыл бұрын
Got the polar in june after the longest wait ive ever had, 6 months.
@watchesgiggles5659
@watchesgiggles5659 Жыл бұрын
That’s awesome! I’ve been waiting about 8 months.
@chrisdrake331
@chrisdrake331 Жыл бұрын
Good vid. Solid. Advice 👏🏻
@mkyhou1160
@mkyhou1160 Жыл бұрын
Interesting vid. This makes me feel better about having sold my AK and Explorer 39 mk2 a year ago. Just got bored of them. I would have taken the black dial Explorer 2, I think that might be my next Rolex.
@whereRbearsTeeth
@whereRbearsTeeth Жыл бұрын
Big mistake selling the Explorer MK 2. That watch is going to rise in value big time over time next few years.
@mkyhou1160
@mkyhou1160 Жыл бұрын
@@whereRbearsTeeth I realized it wasn’t the watch for me, always a bit dainty for a sports watch my wrist size. Oddly it didn’t fit my son either who has smaller wrist than me (the 36 might work for him). I think Explorer 1 is always an entry Rolex price wise, I don’t see it going crazy. The new Tudor ranger looks like it’s filling that 39 space for Rolex group now.
@jimlittle5769
@jimlittle5769 Жыл бұрын
I won't buy over MSRP unless it is a discontinued or sold out watch. And even then, I wouldn't spend over a grand more. There are too many great watches to do that.
@pwrattorney
@pwrattorney Жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Far too little commentary about the financial situation and the impact it has on the market. Thank you for providing this perspective in your video.
@DennisC_X
@DennisC_X Жыл бұрын
Off topic question, of the three books in y our background, how would you rank them? I was planning on getting a book in the near future.
@gerardanthony9834
@gerardanthony9834 Жыл бұрын
A Man & His Watch is a great read and fun book. Target sells it for under $22. Can’t speak to the others but you can find plenty of reviews.
@BLR653
@BLR653 Жыл бұрын
Man that Bluesy is something else. Beautiful! I want the Batman next for my collection but the Bluesy is something else.
@lowie774
@lowie774 Жыл бұрын
Nice new sub 😎I sold my sub ….because the explorer 36 mm feels so much better 💪🏼
@whereRbearsTeeth
@whereRbearsTeeth Жыл бұрын
Yea, I agree… if you have a ladies wrist
@lcm6091
@lcm6091 Жыл бұрын
The market is soft. I just bought 2 omega Schumacher (blue and yellow)… offered 12-15% off and both were accepted. And one was a fixed price. So my advice is to make an offer or wait at least 6 months.
@savingdollarz
@savingdollarz Жыл бұрын
New from AD?
@lcm6091
@lcm6091 Жыл бұрын
@@savingdollarz Not new, vintage Cira 1990’s from Chrono24 and eBay. Both were at the lower range of the offerings.
@WatchesJourney
@WatchesJourney Жыл бұрын
They can't taper a ponzi, which our current fiat currency system is.
@watchesgiggles5659
@watchesgiggles5659 Жыл бұрын
Yep…US government is over 30 Trillion dollars in debt 💸
@actionarslan
@actionarslan Жыл бұрын
Tell him I’ll buy it +$100 so he can make a cool Benjamin
@fishheadbreakroom
@fishheadbreakroom Жыл бұрын
These are high quality items made in factories. There is nothing scarce here. Rolex creates them and sells them at a healthy profit margin to dealers, which mark them up and also make a healthy margin on the retail price. To pay above retail is simply dumb outside of a rare version or meaningful to the buyer aspect. The helicopter money bros bought cars and watches. Track the 1.5T car market bubble collapse and you'll see the parallel in the USED watch market. They cant afford the fuel, or the payments and repo guys are overworked. This was due to auto loans being unregulated and dealers marking up the rates. No income verification. The ADs are also in serious trouble as their actions have damaged Rolex brand.
@stephenn88
@stephenn88 Жыл бұрын
Good news! Let’s hope I can get my hand on a Pepsi
@aussieexpatwatches
@aussieexpatwatches Жыл бұрын
Krugman says anyone thats says recession is 2 quarters of decline isnt a "real" economist.
@watchesgiggles5659
@watchesgiggles5659 Жыл бұрын
🤣….it’s only the definition of one..
@lionheart280
@lionheart280 Жыл бұрын
Good to hear flippers hit the ground.
@followyourpassion8378
@followyourpassion8378 Жыл бұрын
Understanding the Rolex watch market & how a Submariner is calculated: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hbFofbCfyJemeIE.html
@coltsfancolts
@coltsfancolts Жыл бұрын
There is just no 2ndary market demand atm.
@aussieexpatwatches
@aussieexpatwatches Жыл бұрын
Nobody is willing to give actual cash for watches right now though? You actually found a dealer offering cash?
@watchesgiggles5659
@watchesgiggles5659 Жыл бұрын
Yes I did. Not that I was selling
@aussieexpatwatches
@aussieexpatwatches Жыл бұрын
@@watchesgiggles5659 its not even a flipper watch, I dont understand why it takes so long...
@andrewwillard2313
@andrewwillard2313 Жыл бұрын
Rolex has traditionally been a reasonable long term hedge against inflation just by nature of it massive brand value. It’ll be interesting to see if that holds true as our government tries to invent a way to forestall the coming crisis that doesn’t involve any fiscal responsibility on their part…
@kuanseow7407
@kuanseow7407 Жыл бұрын
As Rolex Supporter, Please Happen Please!
@MrRydoone
@MrRydoone Жыл бұрын
How about patek..
@OperationNonsense
@OperationNonsense Жыл бұрын
Not doomed at all. This mild recession doesn’t affect the luxury watch collector demographics. Plenty of people lining up to buy Rolex at MSRP, any available inventory is instantly snatched up. I take any Rolex I can get calls on, just to wear and enjoy them, and still have duplicates in my safes for collection and back up. None will ever be flipped, just for my personal archive and enjoyment.
@watchesgiggles5659
@watchesgiggles5659 Жыл бұрын
Hope you’re right about the mild part!
@nondescriptnyc
@nondescriptnyc Жыл бұрын
I fall under the category of Rolex buyers/owners you describe. However, I am also aware of PLENTY of people that have maxed out their credit cards to get Rolexes from gray market flippers, believing that the value will continue to climb up forever. I also know a number of cryptocurrency “winners” that have bought Lambos and Rolexes, believing that their millions would remain safe…only to find out w/ crypto crash one day that they have lost 90%+ of their assets. Both are in a panic mode right now, and I have a hard time imagining this NOT having an impact on the overall Rolex market.
@samuelburton5576
@samuelburton5576 Жыл бұрын
@@nondescriptnyc demand still there for Rolex. Just walk into an AD and see if you can get one. Are the cases full? Are they selling at a discount??? The answer is no and anyone saying Rolex is crashing is just hating on the brand and wishful thinking.
@samuelburton5576
@samuelburton5576 Жыл бұрын
It funny when I watch you tube watch channels and hear people asking for prices below retail believing all the BS about the market crashing and cases full of Rolex everywhere, only to be quoted a price above retail. Keep dreaming and hoping
@nondescriptnyc
@nondescriptnyc Жыл бұрын
@@samuelburton5576 Yes, I said I have money and I am always looking to purchase Rolexes and Grand Seikos I like, so your anger is misdirected.
@robertgregory1927
@robertgregory1927 Жыл бұрын
Good info, thanks. I was told by my AD I was next but that mean green sub or blusey so who knows. I’m on the fence, might just hold onto my cash and wear my stainless sub.
@norge1956
@norge1956 Жыл бұрын
Technical?? Democratic talking points LOL
@markq1312
@markq1312 Жыл бұрын
Phirst
@cashinhand
@cashinhand Жыл бұрын
It bothers me how these KZfaqrs keep saying that watches aren't investments.
@whereRbearsTeeth
@whereRbearsTeeth Жыл бұрын
Forget Rolexes, now is the time to trade your worthless fiat currency for real money, gold and silver.
@dees9502
@dees9502 Жыл бұрын
A r ecession cannot be measured in real time, a recession is measured in hindsight based on a variety of factors, NOT just two quarters of negative GDP. Economists will not be able to call a recession until late 2023 (last recession in 2008 was officially called in late 2009). Leave the politics out of it, my friend, it’s unbecoming - stick to watches 👍 ✌️
@watchesgiggles5659
@watchesgiggles5659 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
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