room samples are a CHEAT CODE

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In this video I showcase how drum room samples are incredibly powerful. I use a snare room drum sample layered under a live performance to make the drum feel like it was performed in a larger room. This can change and enhance the vibe of a drum recording if you recorded in a space smaller than ideal! #
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Chapters:
00:00 Start
00:29 Why Drum ROOM Samples?
00:53 About The Session
01:28 How Drum Room Sample Enhanced The Drum Sound
02:15 In The Session
02:35 What It Sounds Like
03:02 Drums Only
03:32 Snare Only (No Room)
03:46 Add Snare Room
03:53 Why Room Samples over Reverb
04:44 The Room We Tracked In
04:50 Before n After Realtime
05:26 Instrumental Only Before n After
06:15 Only use if the song CALLS for it
07:05 Why ONLY Snare Room, not other drums?
07:38 Overheads Only
08:26 This Is why Toms didn't need room samples
08:54 Drum n Bass - How the room changes the feel
09:34 Everything In - Before n After
10:00 Last Thoughts

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@spaceraptor_dnb 8 ай бұрын

damn man, this video has really good production quality for such a small channel. your going to be hitting it big with this one.

@david_djent 8 ай бұрын

Thanks so much I really appreciate those kind words!!

@LucidLiquidity 8 ай бұрын

This channel is criminally undersubscribed, instant sub. Quality video production, slick aesthetic - and the session *actually* sounds good; you can tell this was engineered well from the source. A lot of channels with 10000x the subs trying to tell you how to get the best mix... then you hear their session and it's lifeless. But kudos man, this was full and balanced, punchy, everything sat nicely in the mix. Was shocked when I saw the metrics. Only see up from here, keep at it dude. 🤘

@david_djent 8 ай бұрын

Thanks so much dude I greatly appreciate your feedback and kind words, stoked to have you here! 🙌

@LucidLiquidity 8 ай бұрын

@@david_djent Np man! I know these drums were recorded live, but what do you usually use for drum samples? And what do you use to program them?

@david_djent 8 ай бұрын

@@LucidLiquidity I usually use mixwave and GGD libraries. I love the Thomas pridgeon and the original Matt halpern signature library from GGD the most and I program everything in logic!

@rickblackers88 8 ай бұрын

Cool!!

@restlessnoisestudio 8 ай бұрын

Drums sound incredible dude! Subscribed. Also a huge fan of using room samples 😊

@david_djent 8 ай бұрын

Thanks man, and sweet I’m glad to have you along!!

@jairaguirre3581 8 ай бұрын

yessiirrrrrr... the best audio engineer

@david_djent 8 ай бұрын

Shiiii you’re gonna make cry 🥲

@KSS184 8 ай бұрын

Wow excellent sound, instant subscribe! Great material!

@david_djent 8 ай бұрын

Thank you so much, welcome man glad to have you 🙏

@linajetv2768 8 ай бұрын

Love the channel your the man brotha!!!🔥🔥✅

@david_djent 8 ай бұрын

Thank you so much!!

@neonbeatz661 8 ай бұрын

Great video! I learned something new and appreciate the fresh content. Your console looks God-like lol. I sub'd up for sure

@david_djent 8 ай бұрын

Thanks so much I’m glad to have you! Haha it’s technically not a console it’s the Avid S3 control surface!

@maxadrums 8 ай бұрын

That sample sounds grrrrrrrreat! (and everything else!)

@david_djent 8 ай бұрын

Thank you dude!

@djabthrash 8 ай бұрын

Great video !

@paulferrarodrums 6 ай бұрын

I like this guy

@Salantsoundstudios 8 ай бұрын

Nice!!!!

@djabthrash 8 ай бұрын

02:43 03:07 this sounds really badass This is like my ideal drum tone. Very reminiscent of Abe Cunningham from the Deftones and works wonders for hardcore / pop punk and many other genres.

@david_djent 7 ай бұрын

Thanks dude!!

@1176hambone 8 ай бұрын

Yep. Often its that room or OH sample that puts the drum in the mix. The Black Beauty with Steven Slate OH is money. Cheers! Kick sounds great!

@david_djent 8 ай бұрын

Yeah absolutely! It’s so key when programming drums too and getting them to sound realistic. That slate black beauty is sick for sure I gotta revisit it, and thanks so much! 🤙

@liongazelle735 8 ай бұрын

Really good video

@david_djent 8 ай бұрын

Thank you!

@ec1665 7 ай бұрын

bro i almost starved to death on my own hill preaching this, people were so ignorant to this matter they didn´t even want to engage in a conversation. good to know i wasn´t alone 🤣

@david_djent 7 ай бұрын

Haha yeah forget all the purists, we here to make things sound good, no rules

@djabthrash 8 ай бұрын

08:35 very interesting point about the toms and the kicks not needing room samples here !

@david_djent 7 ай бұрын

Yeah sometimes I will do it (mostly in metal stuff), and it’s how I get Tom’s to sound like war drums haha

@djabthrash 7 ай бұрын

@@david_djent hehe i feel you In hardcore punk and metal toms are a bit more prevalent :)

@MadGearBand 8 ай бұрын

I recently bought some TCI samples from Robot Dog, and I didn't initially think much of the room samples. But once I started triggering the room sample on it's own track and EQing and mixing to taste, it was **chef's kiss**

@david_djent 8 ай бұрын

Yeah especially if you got some room samples that were tracked in a huge room, the decay you can get is crazy. If you compress the living crap out of them too you can get a pretty insane tail

@MadGearBand 8 ай бұрын

@@david_djent can confirm - my wife married me for my insane tail 🍑

@alexandervizcarra9957 8 ай бұрын

Great vid, and can't believe you have this little subs. Great content. I'm been using snare room samples / building fake rooms instead of reverb lately and it is a game changer for sure. OHs sound really good, what mics/position/height did you use? Just curious as I record in a small room and struggle to get a good sound out of OHs.

@david_djent 8 ай бұрын

Thanks man! I used the C414s I forgot which revision though, might have been the XLS. I went for a spaced pair to get a wide image and I don’t remember the height, I really just eyeballed it, checked in the control room then made an adjustment and lowered them a tad. I definitely had them a little on the higher side though to get more of a kit image and then the ride, stack and hi hat mics gave me more of the direct sounds. Those were sm81s I believe or the akg pencil condenser that is similar

@pjuliano9000 8 ай бұрын

You can some room out the snare to if you smaack the hell out of the beginning transient and just use the ring ... however, one must not have terrible bleed into in their snare mics from cymbals

@david_djent 8 ай бұрын

Yeah you can definitely get a big more of a tail and body out of the snare, but it won’t be able to replicate a proper room mic sound

@ianfreddy3804 8 ай бұрын

This is amazing. It just gives the room breath. How do I find room samples?

@david_djent 8 ай бұрын

Thanks man! Any drum sampler like Get Good Drums, Mixwave, Steven Slate, Superior drummer etc wil have room mics for the whole kit!

@djabthrash 8 ай бұрын

Or you make your own, or you make samples during the sesh and then process them to emulate the sound of a room (search "how to create a fake room track " type of videos, like the one by Todd Barriage from years ago, that i can't find again sadly). kzfaq.info?search_query=fake+room+mic

@limelighter1 7 ай бұрын

Where do you find your samples?! They sound awesome!

@david_djent 3 ай бұрын

I think here I was mostly using the mixwave Thomas pridgeon one!

@MikeDare 8 ай бұрын

Are you mixing on the LV1 or studio rack? I’ve never seen a setup like yours before 👍 I’ll be experimenting with room snares for live sound

@david_djent 8 ай бұрын

Neither haha, this is my studio set up a mixing on the avid s3 as my control surface into logic pro X! I really want to use room snares for live sound too though, I’m trying to figure out how to pull that off without the latency I do love the LV1 though, I’ve mixed with it doing FOH, I’m on the CL5 with waves sound grid at the church I mix for right now but we’re gonna be getting the PM10 soon

@MikeDare 8 ай бұрын

@@david_djent CL5 upgrade to the PM10 is a dream come true 😍! There are a few low latency ideas. Main one being Dante card, route to a machine running trigger 2 then route back to a channel on the board. I mix a church with an Allen & Heath SQ7. I’m playing with the idea of running waves superrack performer but don’t have any chains prepared lol. I’m hoping to find a few gems on your page that I can implement 😁🙏🏾

@david_djent 8 ай бұрын

⁠@@MikeDareyeah it would just be expensive to get another interface with Dante to spit out trigger 2 tracks back but yeah that’s the only thing I was thinking of too. But yeah superrack performer would be sick! Can’t go wrong with throwing R Vox on all your vocals and CLA76 with dynamic eq and multiband to start!

@gaetanclybouw 8 ай бұрын

Can u tell us what the exact room sample is called? And from which Trigger Pack or Library it's from?

@david_djent 8 ай бұрын

I’m not 100% sure since I don’t fully remember but it sounds like the Mixwave Thomas pridgeon signature snare room sound, and I use that one a lot so it’s mostlikely that. Knowing me I probably blended 1 other snare rooms in trigger with it but I’m pretty sure the Thomas pridgeon is the main sound

@gaetanclybouw 8 ай бұрын

@@david_djent Thanks, I'm getting pretty bored with the room choices I have in trigger, great to hear other libraries kicking ass

@david_djent 8 ай бұрын

@@gaetanclybouwyeah man all the Mixwave stuff is incredible, the rooms are awesome on their libraries

@newtension 8 ай бұрын

Do you tune the snare sample to match the one recorded as well?

@david_djent 8 ай бұрын

Nah I don’t, I rarely ever tune any regular samples I blend in either. I’m pretty pragmatic about it, if it sounds good I just don’t question it, but if it rubs in a bad way then I will tune it

@cbrooks0905 8 ай бұрын

Him: good samples are everywhere. Me: where?! I have no clue where to get any sample let alone good ones.

@david_djent 8 ай бұрын

Haha but it’s true! There’s an incredible amount of drum samples out there you just have to look. Even googling just “best drum samples for ‘x’ genre” will give you pretty solid results. Personally, I like mixwave libraries and get good drums libraries but I have a bunch of them and there are so many to choose from

@cbrooks0905 8 ай бұрын

@@david_djent thanks for something specific to go on, because just googling isn’t enough for me. It’s like asking what’s the best compressor plug-in. There’s literally hundreds. How would I know what the best is?

@aZeee 8 ай бұрын

Maybe a stupid question but what is a room sample? You mean sending it out speakers and recording it in another space? Random tails from a sample pack? Snare room samples from like trigger plugin? How did you go about making it?

@david_djent 8 ай бұрын

Not stupid at all! So when you use a drum sample library, they also record room samples of each part of the kit. So what I do is I will load slate trigger on a snare track, load room samples of either a kick, snare or whatever you’d like, and trigger it off the live snare drum. Then I just print it in place. Sometimes I’ll create an entire “fake room” bus if I do kick and Tom room samples that are triggered in addition to the snare stuff

@djabthrash 8 ай бұрын

Room sample = sample of an instrument (ex : snare, kick, tom) captured by a room mic

@safaripedals 6 ай бұрын

love your videos. How can I get in touch? :) No email / website info on your page

@david_djent 3 ай бұрын

Sorry just seeing this! It should be there under my website but this is my email davidsustaitaproductions@gmail.com

@RogueFire29 8 ай бұрын

but how can we create it ? :)

@david_djent 8 ай бұрын

The only way is to have a large room where can take multi velocity samples of someone hitting a snare and exciting the room!

@RogueFire29 8 ай бұрын

@@david_djent ok! So there is no way to re create this in a daw ?

@david_djent 8 ай бұрын

@@RogueFire29 without triggering samples no, these are samples of prerecorded live drums but not reverb will be able to recreate a real drum exciting a real room

@cradddockdude1998 8 ай бұрын

Honestly, even if I record in a larger room. There's almost always gonna be a snare room sample in my session.

@david_djent 8 ай бұрын

Oh yeah dude for sure same here I love snare room samples haha. If I don’t unless samples on a session I’m almost always using a snare room

@caspermaster-com 8 ай бұрын

Dude, that is a nice sounding track. Just by hearing 5 seconds of that, you are UP there in the engineering department. Yes. Recently made this same discovery. I will probably put more or less room samples on every drum set, because, even if there is a nice roomsound in the recording, if the track has moderate instrumentation, the room will get eaten and a good room recording will sound like a natural tight recording, so you add the rooms and make the drums sound like they do in solo, but in the track, more or less :)

@david_djent 8 ай бұрын

Thanks so much for the kind words man! Honestly the musicians made it so easy, plus we recorded into an old SSL 4K running through a bunch of stuff so that always helps haha. But yeah room samples are almost always something that can improve a drum recording, when I’m mixing metal I make a bunch of room tracks lol