The monumental effort put into this is commendable. Big respect to rtings.
@RTINGScomRD9 ай бұрын
Thank you so much! 😄 The amount of information we're learning throughout the whole process has been well worth it!
@Notwishcom8 ай бұрын
@@RTINGScomRD😢🎉 😢😢😢
@pipenorris7 ай бұрын
these guys are the best
@mandrid6 ай бұрын
Yeah, honestly amazing. Is anyone else doing what these people are doing? This is right up there in quality and thoroughness with other channels like @GamersNexus.
@dimintordevil71866 ай бұрын
@@RTINGScomRD mini LEd with G-sync pulsar might actually be quite competitive against OLED ! yes OLED IS CLEANER DUE TO Response times though !AND better for MOVIES however MINI LED SHOULD NOT BE THAT BAD either >
@phahq9 ай бұрын
Even if for nothing else, at least these tests are making Samsung and other brands more aware of issues with OLED technology. RTINGS rules!
@NotEvenDeathCanSaveU9 ай бұрын
LG rulez.. they constantly improve on this and don't even need these videos
@disciprine9 ай бұрын
samsung, get your ##%@ together
@floz97189 ай бұрын
@@NotEvenDeathCanSaveU True, they were in the Oled-game the longest, so it makes sense that they have developed the most sophisticated software/algorithms to prevent visible IR/Burn In. Still, at this point I would only buy a QD-Oled TV - it's simply the superior tech...
@busterboy75079 ай бұрын
Why... because it's brighter
@NotEvenDeathCanSaveU9 ай бұрын
@@floz9718 Superior in getting burn in I agree lol. Also LG has been longest in the game because Samsung and others refused to believe the OLED is the tech of future and they wasted long years smearing the tech until their sales plummeted and made QD-OLED which.. has its issues.
@aquaneon80129 ай бұрын
What would be interesting is to check the power consumption after the oled goes through a long cycle. In a long cycle, the Resistance increases as burn in occurs, which requires the Voltage to increase by a proportional amount.
@MarceloTezza9 ай бұрын
Yes! And how much brightness was lost.
@6stringmonk9 ай бұрын
@@MarceloTezzaThe original burn-in test rtings did did not show any meaningful brightness loss over the 10k hour test. It has to start happening at some point though.
@Nicholas_Steel9 ай бұрын
@@Freedom_Half_Off You've got that backwards, they pump more power in to the worn out pixels. So it's *those* areas that will burn out quicker after compensation cycles. This is assuming they aren't just dimming the less used portions of the screen to achieve uniformity (which would greatly extend the life of those areas of the panel).
@hugevibez9 ай бұрын
@@6stringmonk My LG E6 has about 18k hours last time I checked (which also has terrible OLED mitigation features, so take it as a worst case scenario), but definitely doesn't have an uniform panel mostly noticable in darker scenes, even after forcing a long duty cycle. The lowered brigtness also affects color volume, making me crank up the 'color' slider up to like 85 to compensate for the lack of saturation but at a loss of color accuracy. I also notice that peak highlights don't get nearly as bright as they used to. I've kept this TV for so long because it has great passive 3D which I never use (but the few times I emulated 3DS on it was glorious). but I suppose it's time allow it to retire.
@6stringmonk9 ай бұрын
@@hugevibez Wow! It sounds like your C6 had a long lifespan considering how many things besides the just the screen can go wrong. I have a friend with a C7 that is still kicking too. I hope my C1 lasts that long because buying an OLED and being a picky person can be a chore :) I wish we still had some 3D tv options, so I understand where you are coming from.
@dil69697 ай бұрын
As someone who hates IPS glow on content in pitch black areas, I've been seriously considering a WOLED or QD-OLED monitor to replace my primary. This testing is super helpful and I'm going to wait and see how these panels change considering the new generation TVs and monitors are dropping at CES. Having to worry about image retention makes these a lot less appealing as a workhorse, do-it-all monitor. Thanks for the work your team is doing. It's a huge help for those who like to get the best longevity out of their tech.
@cardboardpig7 ай бұрын
I'm hanging out for a decent 32" 4K miniled with a high local dimming zone count. Unfortunately this year it's all looking like OLED :/
@vincenzodellama71587 ай бұрын
Considering Dell offers a 3 year warranty on burn-in I'm going to buy their new 4k model, as I know that they are just going to replace it in 3 years for a new model, as I'll be using it for at least 8 hours a day in desktop and there is going to be burn-in in this time frame...
@dil69697 ай бұрын
@@cardboardpig This is exactly what I'm looking for. Aside from an ASUS and a Viewsonic, with seemingly mixed reviews, the 16:9 mini-LED monitor market is pretty barren and the options that are available are ludicrously expensive. I know we're on the cusp of affordable monitors with a good HDR experience and OLED black levels, but it'll probably be at least another year before we're fully there I'm guessing.
@RohanPL7 ай бұрын
Bro I had same issue until i found out about mini-led monitors, no ips glow black is way better, and most importantly no backlight bleed at all.
@veilmontTV7 ай бұрын
I bought the new alienware panel. The burn in warranty is the exact reason i pulled the trigger. With how much im gonna use it im probably gonna use that warranty in a couple years myself too. Then I'll be on to something better at that point@vincenzodellama7158
@icy10076 ай бұрын
I've had my QD-OLED monitor (Alienware AW3423DW) for nearly 2 years and it's still perfect. I use it everyday for several hours for gaming and general computer use including 16:9 content. No image retention at all. I allow the monitor to run its maintenance cycles as intended as well. Perfect monitor for all uses.
@TearlessGosling6 ай бұрын
Whereas I have had mine a little over a year and have noticeable burn in on gray webpages such as youtubes dark mode. Our content consumption was likely different, but it is nice to know I have another year before I need to use my warranty.
@oasdfe16914 ай бұрын
@@TearlessGoslingI had the same issue as they showed in the video, with the gray lines, i used the panel refresh feature, the one that takes hours, and it fixed everything.
@Viettzz4 ай бұрын
@@oasdfe1691 But how many time did you use the Refresh feature? everyday?
@JaySee34 ай бұрын
I have the same monitor and it burned in pretty badly after about a year of heavy use
@0xszander03 ай бұрын
Several hours, nearly 2 years is nothing. I expect a screen to last 5 years with 8-10hrs of use every day. Especially considering the price of these monitors.
@KeyboardSavant9 ай бұрын
This video right here... this is truly exceptional! As an "ultrawide enthusiast" since 2014, OLED panels have been on my radar for a few years now. I've been hesitant as a result of the research in this video, and rightfully so. Although, in a couple of generations, it seems that burn-in may be all but imperceivable. 2025 could be the year I consider making the shift!
@flybriur9 ай бұрын
I have been using an Alienware AW3423DW ultrawide OLED monitor for about a year now. I game on it occasionally (maybe 10% of the time), but the rest of the time I just use it for web browsing, using Microsoft Office, etc. I have my taskbar on auto-hide and my desktop icons hidden just to be on the safe side, and unless gaming, I use the monitor in SDR mode at about 50-70% brightness and 75% contrast. After the one year of using it, I haven't seen any signs of burn-in (even after running color slides).
@bosoxdanc19 ай бұрын
You're absolutely fine to buy an OLED monitor now. RTING's test are not in any way normal use case for burn-in.
@TotalXPvideos9 ай бұрын
Gotta indeed take into consideration that these are on 24/7 for months
@ThisIsExile919 ай бұрын
You act like the monitors are $8000.. they are currently $799 for black Friday. Do yourself a favor and buy one
@G0A79 ай бұрын
@@ThisIsExile91 Nah he doesnt need one, if he waits he can buy a better product when needed
@ler52999 ай бұрын
The level of work that must have gone into this is insane. So impressive!
@jackw95689 ай бұрын
If you get burn-in by playing 16x9 content on the 21x9 monitors, wouldn't you also get burn-in by playing 21x9 letterboxed content on 16x9 TVs? Lots of TV shows and movies are letterboxed. Maybe something worth testing in addition to your full-screen CNN loop.
@ms38629 ай бұрын
I don't think so. The software usually decides how to adjust ABL based on square shaped sizes of the screen. So I believe a 21:9 image on a 16:9 will still be recognised by the ABL as effectively full screen and lower brightness. Though naturally pixels that are on degrade faster than pixels that are off, so of course the area that's off in 21:9 will degrade less, but that's different to the issue from this video, the issue in the video was ABL causing burn in I can test this later on my tv in hdr to see if 21:9 content is brighter or the same than 16:9
@lilpain19979 ай бұрын
@@ms3862 what? Yes you would get burn in on a 16:9 OLED or QD OLED TV using a 21:9 aspect ratio... Its literally the exact same thing. ABL was not causing the burn in at all... The burn is literally down to the pixels in the middle being worked far more than the pixels on the outside because they are on while the black bars are off... Its just higher brightness does it quicker as you are pushing the pixels harder. So yes you can burn and will burn a 21:9 image onto a 16:9 TV... Source? Me who has done it, I also did the 16:9 one as I use the ps5 on the AW3423DW for around 1400hours to clean up my backlog before selling it.
@alaskanmalamute1019 ай бұрын
If you play any kind of letterbox content for long periods of time of course it will make a difference because your literally not using parts of the screens and like she said all oleds degrade over time so if u only ever use letterbox content the outside areas will be clean while the middle will wear. Ideally you want to use full screen so you have even wear.
@hellterminator9 ай бұрын
@@lilpain1997 Samsung's claim was that the ABL accelerated the process. Which it did. It will happen without it, too, just not as quickly. My AW3423DW does have a little bit of 16:9 burn-in, even though I mostly use it in SDR mode which doesn't have an ABL.
@lilpain19979 ай бұрын
@@hellterminator yeah but he said I dont think so to will this happen on 21:9 with a 16:9 TV. Yes it will. How long have you used the AW3423DW in 16:9 to see slight burn in? Also since its slight does the hour long panel refresh not help at all? I replaced my first one due to that and since then only game in 21:9 on it.
@yosoy1loco9 ай бұрын
I tried to explain the concept of "burn-in" in OLEDs not being actually burn-in (like in plasma tv's), but wear-out (of lumination power) for over 2 years. Thanks for making a video about it! I got my knowledge from a very small youtube channel, where he explained the actual tech behind it, why it is technically not a burn-in, how brightness and illumination have an impact on the longevity and how manufacturers do not properly explain the difference between the two sorts of pixel refreshers, which would be very important, as it can have a severe impact on the longevity of your monitor if used incorrectly. I think the guy was german. My guess on how long pixel refresher work, when remembering correctly, it dims the screen all along while giving extra voltage to "unfixeable areas". This is just working cause all pixels have some sort of a headroom build-in by the manufacturer from the start. This is also the reason why some OLEDs are not able to achieve certain brightness levels. Turns out if your LG-OLED is not "bright enough" in comparison to your Samsung OLED, there is probably more headroom for your LG, which is a good thing. I also remember a serious advice: *DO NOT use the big/long pixel refresher more than you have to, cause you can lose image quality by uniforming the picture, as you lose brightness and over-charge certain areas, that you don't have to.*
@bartonlynch9 ай бұрын
Finally someone with facts behind the real science of this dreadfully flawed display tech. Avoid OLED or face the inevitable: uneven wear with permanent uniformity issues plus irreversible image retention.
@Da-iken9 ай бұрын
Why should i go with LEDs that have issues Day1? DSE, Blooming, Ghosting and so on... so it is better to have a nearly perfect picture for the next years than avoiding OLED because of fear. I mean the LED TV can also die eralier. You have even more technical stuff behind the panel that can create issues or die over time.@@bartonlynch
@GaryRedgrave9 ай бұрын
@@bartonlynch No, you have absolutely no clue lol.
@CrazyInWeston9 ай бұрын
@@GaryRedgraveIf he is wrong, why not teach him why he is wrong? Instead of just saying 'you're wrong'. This will help others out. Dont be lazy.
@BrainHurricanes9 ай бұрын
@@CrazyInWeston Well, if this video and plenty of other research proving that oled's aren't that bad as people tend to believe, what do you want Gary to say that is going to change an ignorent mind ? All the ignorent can say is "this dreadfully flawed display tech". I've got an oled for over 8 years with zero problems, yeah really proves that it's flawed tech doesn't it ? Hope this helps others.
@SillyOrb9 ай бұрын
Thanks Abby and RTINGS R&D team! See you in two months for the first yearly update (I hope). :)
@RTINGScomRD9 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching, that's the goal! 😄
@MikeG-cd8vb2 ай бұрын
I used the s95b as my main computer desktop for 2 years. Max brightness. Pixel shift and auto dim on low. I finally have a light blue burn in on an all white background. It is hard to see. Time to retire it to only movies now. Got a mini led monitor now that the other tech has caught up. Half the price, brighter, great darks. No more annoying pixel shift. Thanks for all your testing. Because of your videos, I ran pixel refresh and enabled burn in reduction modes.
@CarnivoryHODL9 ай бұрын
Been waiting for this!! Thank you for your continued support of the OLED community!
@RTINGScomRD9 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching and being patient with us!😄
@kennyishiigh34619 ай бұрын
So what's the best 4K Tv for me to game on that has longevity?
@G0A79 ай бұрын
@@kennyishiigh3461 Samsung S95C QD-OLED LG G3 OLED Sony A95L QD-OLED The samsung and the sony have better panels but they also have some drawbacks for gaming and other things so i put the lg there too, those are mos likely the top 3 of this year for gaming and any use really
@samson72949 ай бұрын
@@kennyishiigh3461 As far as my interpretation of the data combined with me owning both a LG C2 and Samsung S95B, I would say the LG C2 is my recommendation.
@grandsonofragnar9 ай бұрын
@@kennyishiigh3461 Mini Led / Full-Array / QLED
@enforcer417 ай бұрын
I have a 2018 LG E8 currently at 14,000 hrs still going strong with no burn in or image retention and still has a nice clean 5% greyscale test result. I game on it and watch loads of sports with all the logos everywhere and still no issues.
@barrysuss44217 ай бұрын
liar
@enforcer417 ай бұрын
@@barrysuss4421 I know sorry it's actually over 17k hours now with no issues at all.
I guess you are not blasting it at 100% brightness
@enforcer417 ай бұрын
@@dtibor5903 True I wasn't and it was actually 17000 hours I made a mistake.
@AluinKali9 ай бұрын
Anecdotally I can say that the Dell Alienware AW3423DW holds up pretty well after one year of intense use. It’s a slightly different model then you got on test but the panel is the same. I use it for gaming almost every day but I also work from home. For the last year it’s been in use for 6 to 12 hours on most days. I mainly use the display for coding/working on spreadsheets and I usually have a technical drawing on one half of the screen. So for all intents and purposes there is a big white square on half of the screen. But even when I put on a monochrome background on screen in white grey or any colour I can’t see any signs of burn in. I mainly got this display for Dells 3 year burn in warranty but if the monitor holds up like it does now I probably won’t even need it.
@kombatres9 ай бұрын
Same. Have been using it for a year now every day for like 10 hours, gaming, work, browsing. Can't see any burn in
@teddyholiday80389 ай бұрын
@@kombatresRTings test literally confirm that first Gen QD-OLEDs burn in quickly
@slipy0504919 ай бұрын
@@teddyholiday8038 Yes but she also said no sane person would use the oleds like they do. Had my DWF for 9 months (~10h usage a day) now and no signs of burn-in yet. Will just wait and see what happens. Glad we have a 3yr warranty :D
@TylerMcCool9 ай бұрын
same here
@ericw.16209 ай бұрын
They drove the monitor for 700 hours straight right? In real usage, the monitor has built in mitigations that run when it goes to standby mode. I wonder if that's what's making the difference here.
@joeroggenbeck84444 ай бұрын
I have an LG C1 that gets occasional use. A few hours a week. I noticed burn in already- its from the built in LG screen saver- LOL. Oh the irony! After running a pixel clean, I can no longer detect it. Now I just shut the thing off. Lesson learned. Abby is awesome! Great job selling your team's work. You are a natural on camera!
@LowKeyContender2 ай бұрын
same here i just got an oled samsung g8. i just turn it off when im not using it :)
@lamardoss9 ай бұрын
I have many Samsung QDOLED computer monitors.... When I asked them about burn-in, of course it isnt under warranty. They also told me burn-in isnt something that i should be worried about since they "havent had that issue on the monitors" I have. I then asked them that since there is no warranty, and that they consider this to be taken care of by them, the manufacturer, would burn-in be handled under a manufacturer defect..... Their answer: no.
@flybriur9 ай бұрын
That's why I ended up going with an Alienware monitor -- Dell explicitly covers burn-in under the warranty.
@Beladinland8 ай бұрын
This is a masterpiece in QD-OLED topic regarding burn-in
@eurly939 ай бұрын
For most people permanent burn-in isn't as much of a problem as temporary image retention. My LG B9 is now 5 years old, and when watching netflix, even though I don't leave it on the UI screen for more than a minute, you can see after images of the profile icons / borders of movie artwork for the first 30 seconds or so when starting content depending on the color of the content. These after images aren't SUPER noticeable, but it's worth noting that just like Plasma before it, OLED has significant drawbacks to durabilty compared to LED.
@Bloodreav3r7 ай бұрын
Its the same
@Shineinpoverty7 ай бұрын
Yep. And for some of us, it is enough to skip on OLED. I do not care about perfection of the picture, especially since miniLED gets better and better in comparison to OLED.
@eddiey40766 ай бұрын
I use my G8 for 12-16 hours a day from gaming, to coding, to watching twitch streams and a have 0 burn in issues. I have been using the monitor since it was released. Simple things like turning the monitor off for 15-20 minutes when u step away, using auto hide taskbar, and making sure to run screen optimization if the pop up ever shows up will help make sure you dont experience this burn in issue from neglected use.
@pedroferreira92345 ай бұрын
and dont forget, use dark mode everywhere
@koreangoku4 ай бұрын
Do you think having an animated wallpaper when not using the monitor would help prevent burn in?
@canpehlivan2497Ай бұрын
when was it released?
@pugi0509 ай бұрын
I had a s95b. Had issues in the first month of having it. The panel failed. Returned it and got the G2 65 as a clearance. My friend sold it to me half price. What an amazing tv. I love it. Way better than LCD to watch.
@DCMCOSPLAYdotCOM9 ай бұрын
Love these test updates. I think at some point, models that show a good gray uniformity should be taken in for a full picture quality review and then contrast it with how the model scored when new. Just because the TV can do gray does not stop people from appearing a little green in the center of the screen as the uneven wear continues. That to me is just as bad as a static burn mark and is different from Plasma and CRT burn where it didn't affect the color, just retention.
@thor83349 ай бұрын
This videos are crazy good, you guys rock ! Thanks a lot for informing us on what these companies don’t want to be clear !
@GlennThoughts7 ай бұрын
Abby, just wanted to say you're the best! Dedication of rtings on this is insane. Thank you
@Stock--Rosso9 ай бұрын
Imagine a car seller, telling you the paint might fall off your car after twelve months, but you wont able to repaint it! Amazing picture, lousy downside. I've had 4 panels, two top end and two mid range and they all suffered from burn-in to various degrees, so never again.
@JuanTorres-dj1wn9 ай бұрын
Led/mini led is the way
@guidowinter9 ай бұрын
Which panels did you have? I dont know why this issue is not more spoken of in reviews. It's therefor also so difficult to recommend an TV to someone nowadays.
@JuanTorres-dj1wn9 ай бұрын
@@guidowinter because reviewers either get the panel just for a free days and cant really test the wear. Or they were paid or had a collaboration to say something positive. That is why rtings is our ally, because they buy each panel to do real long term tests.
@CanIHasThisName4 ай бұрын
@@guidowinter Reviews focus on base performance, not longevity. I mean, to test a screen for 2000 hours, you literally need to have it turned on for almost three months. The sort of testing Rtings do is very difficult to do consistently and most outlets don't have the capacity, they're run by a handful of people where only one or two typically focus on displays.
@3dr14ng49 ай бұрын
I'm very happy that OLEDs are improving and gaining popularity because it's a signal to IPS manufacturers to lessen their display pricing. Right now I'm eyeing on 32" 10-bit 4k IPS Monitors for my WFH setup.
@GuyCostigan5 ай бұрын
Anyone else binge these videos AFTER buying a tv and wondering " did i screw up?" 😅😂😂
@Chimera_Photography7 ай бұрын
I’ve been using a 2019 LG B9 Oled as a multipurpose movies/gaming/computer monitor since I bought it. 14,688 hours, No burn in. 😉 Unless you leave a still image on those screens for extended periods of time, you won’t have issues. They aren’t delicate.
@thetrumanshow47917 ай бұрын
I've had my 65" LG GX for 3 years now in my bedroom. I watch it 3-4 hours a night and it works flawlessly. Zero sign of burn-in and zero sign of just image retention. Additionally, zero sign of declining brightness. My only complaint . . . I wish it was a 77". Will probably upgrade to a 77" QD-OLED in 3 or 4 years.
@veilmontTV6 ай бұрын
I don't think i could comfortably fit more than 65 inches in my bedroom. I do get wanting more though
@StylusPT7 ай бұрын
The worst thing about going with OLED is that there is no coming back, after you get used to it no other kind of pannel does the cut.
@turningaround78425 ай бұрын
FACTS
@NotxSplayd4 ай бұрын
This
@silverwatchdog3 ай бұрын
True. I have used my LG C1 for 3 years now and I think 3500 hours as a pc monitor with every single burn in prevention setting disabled because they are really annoying for pc use and no issues. No burn in and peak brightness is as good as what it was day one. I basically forget it’s an OLED and use it the same way as any monitor.
@wykydytron21 күн бұрын
True. I use mine also as PC monitor and older models will have serious burn in after 2 years but newer models deal with burning much better, not only tv no longer changes brightness all the time whatever they are doing they do it better since after 2 years of using newer model I have zero burning.
@biomed9 ай бұрын
These longevity videos are awesome! A peek into factors such as reliability which is valuable in decision making. Kudos and Keep it up guys!👍🏻
@stinkycheese8048 ай бұрын
Except they don't really focus on death and OS bricking. My Hisense seems fine on their tests, just bricked itself. So much for that. A working TV with mediocre specs beats a dead one.
@MotoCat919 ай бұрын
14,521 hours logged on my LG 55B9 so far as a PC monitor (roughly equivalent to 10hrs/day since new in 2019) no visible burn, and still very happy Thanks for doing such detailed tests too, very insightful
@Moshington9 ай бұрын
I have the same model. if u r varying your content then you will be fine. I work in Ableton with bright static elements. The burn in hit hard this year. 😢
@Nutube-6P19 ай бұрын
LG C1 48” user as a pc monitor since January 2022. Almost 2 years of mixing pc usage. Gaming, web browsing, watching movies (mostly in HDR) from 2 to 10 hours per day. No any signs of burn-in. Tanks for video. 😀
@Jcool72121 күн бұрын
I have older LG model (E7) which has quite bad image burn in (permanent retention). Great to hear that C models and newer ones are ok. I had about 4 years usage before burn-in. Visible mostly in skin colors, red and magenta.
@scibbo39669 ай бұрын
Love these updates. Was enough for me to invest into the S90c 77" knowing it's using s95c second gen panel. With the update on compensation cyles, this confirmed that this tv was the right purchase for me.
@brunoutechkaheeros11829 ай бұрын
nice, ive got a 55 s90c, which i confirmed has 2nd gen panel, and so far, using it with my PC, no problems with burn in
@klausdauer8 ай бұрын
@@brunoutechkaheeros1182 How and where can you check which panel it has? Im looking into buying a s90c too but don't know how to confirm the panel. Appreciate the Help!
@meruzzin3 ай бұрын
@brunoutechkaheeros1182 hey, how can I know wich gen panel is in my samsung tv?
@caseyglassfield832 ай бұрын
Hi, I'm thinking about picking up a 77 S90C myself, how has it been after some months of use? Also is it reliable at running the short compensation cycles? Cheers
@scibbo39662 ай бұрын
@@caseyglassfield83 I'm having no issues. Been a new update recently fixing many complaints people were having.
@patrickbrooks50937 ай бұрын
This is amazing. With new tech emerging, it needs to be tested before the average consumer sinks a lot of money.
@jaystone48167 ай бұрын
Sony announced in October 2023 their 2024 models will not include OLED, which they see as a technological dead-end. Mini-LED has more promise now and in the 3-5 years to come. Sony R&D already announced they've developed a substantial increase in the information each mini-LED can carry. It's cheaper to produce than OLED panels, which also have a high production failure rate. Mini-LED doesn't dim or have burn-in problems.
@bradgraves866 ай бұрын
There is a lot wrong with this statement. @@jaystone4816
@1chrissage29 ай бұрын
I have 2x G8 OLEDS for a stacked set up, 3300 hours on my main one, 2500 hours on my secondary one, both are still perfect. I also have a 65S95B off to the side of my stacked set up, 4100 plus hours on that. All 3 of my QD-OLED panels are still perfect with no burn in. Who's watching the same channel non stop and never changing the channel lol! These tests are a bit extreme in my opinion and is not reflected in how normal people will use their OLED TV.
@trihard420698 ай бұрын
Fr, the testing (video overall) makes zero sense 😂.
@ivayloborov34629 ай бұрын
Currently waiting for my C3 to arrive later this week and super excited!
@Dookie69uk9 ай бұрын
Congrats I got a C2 after having a Samsung Q90 for 18 months it produced edge bleed on the top of the TV so when watching anything dark a white line was straight across the top of the TV very annoying and disappointed with Samsung considering what I paid. My mom had a Samsung for 20y and only the past month has the speakers stopped working. Maybe Samsung QC is crap now? Loving my C2 though for video games(my main reason for going OLED)
@ivayloborov34629 ай бұрын
@@Dookie69uk I'm also coming from a Samsung (QN90B). It's overall nice, but some things really bothered me. For one, the blooming is atrocious. Every time there are subtitles the whole bottom part of the TV lights up lol. The constant tone-mapping (even with HGIG on) and oversaturated colors don't help either. And don't get me started on the UI.... So yeah, pretty happy I'm switching to LG :D
@boltongame50549 ай бұрын
@@Dookie69ukdo you have burn in or dead pixel ? I bought a s90c but I play a lot of video games so im worried 😅
@Dookie69uk9 ай бұрын
@@boltongame5054 I don't have any dead pixels or burn in, but I have only had my C2 for 2 weeks lol so it's very early days. My Q90 looked great but I just couldn't live with that edge bleed. I remember before my Q90 I got a Sony, that only lasts 14 months and wouldn't come on. Maybe I'm just unlucky with TVs.
@brentyukoweic25129 ай бұрын
Thank you folks for all of your time spent reviewing products. I've used your testing knowledge when I purchased my Sony 85". I was a bit in dismay to find out that you have not done testing on the newer projectors and screens our there. Based on the panels above 85" are cost prohibitive, I feel people will start purchasing projectors over the flat panels. Please consider reviewing projectors..thanks!
@krecikopulos8 ай бұрын
Big thumbs up for your job guys. I have only one suggestion. Oled monitors should be tested viewing not CNN but gaming/desktop instead that is what they are built for.
@indiumgalliumnitride23897 ай бұрын
Yes that is true, i was also thinking about, but if you want to compare the huge amount of testresults from the TV with a little amount of Monitors maybe it's nice to be able to compare panel durabilitay against TVs etc. CNN hast nearly static pictures so maybe it's comparable for real monitoe work. On the other hand in real you have on your monitor a lot of white background (also if you use darkmode). For W-OLEDs maybe it's a other situation if the White LED is wearing a lot.
@steveco18009 ай бұрын
I also use my 43 inch TV as a 1440p monitor without scaling, so there’s a 28 inch display in the middle when working from home. Think this confirms OLED is not the best option considering the change in brightness of the monitors after 700 hours with borders. Thanks for the testing.
@L1ft0ff9 ай бұрын
Could you test the (max) brightness decrease because of OLED wear?
@tresnugget6 ай бұрын
My C9 has 16k hours and still looks great with a lot of varying use with mostly movie and TV watching, gaming, and some pc use. So much better than my b7 that had burn in from watching widescreen movies and a bug that put in vertical lines so there was basically a square burned into the middle of the screen. Just preordered the 77" G4 and can't wait to see what 2000 nit oleds look like.
@kseries19819 ай бұрын
As an owner of a S95b, I laughed at the "Samsung Firmware Update Counter". 😂
@boltongame50549 ай бұрын
Do you have burn in issues ? I play a lot of video game on my s90c and i think I maybe do the wrong choice
@JuanTorres-dj1wn9 ай бұрын
@@boltongame5054you should be fine with gaming. It changes the colors of the screen constantly. It's the still images than increase the risk of burn in.
@willgart16 ай бұрын
thanks. 700h for a monitor is way too low for me I'm not using my PC 2h a day, but more near 16h a day. an OLED monitor will be good for only 3 to 4 months in my case. so it's a no go for me. I'll wait for big improvments. thanks for this crazy work
@pig14918 ай бұрын
Been using a LG 27GR95QE-B since april of this year and according the settings its been on for about 2800 hours. I havent been too careful about keeping it off and whatnot but it's got certain features that turns it off automatically after no pixel updates and "pixel cleaning" or smth like that and i've had zero burn in, but if u abuse it no doubt burn in will occur
@alllivesmatter35618 ай бұрын
Same.
@druout19448 ай бұрын
40,000+ hours on IPS/VA/LED and no picture issues.
@borisdgАй бұрын
High end LCD FTW. Just the blacks are not as deep, but its ok.
@Chickenbreadlp9 ай бұрын
Dayum'! The results on the Alienware OLED Monitor kinda makes me happy that I've been running mine at like 30% SDR brightness since day 1. haven't had any perceivable burn-in yet after about 1.5 years of mixed desktop + gaming usage. And given that I code a lot, I'd argue that im displaying more white text on a black background then actual games 😅
@marcfuchs69388 ай бұрын
Seems similar to my experiences. I run a 55" LG OLED TV as my main computer screen since 2019, and as a self employed media creator, this thing runs many hours every day. I keep it at max energy savings at all times, so up to this day, no burn in, even though some image elements remain the same for all this time, like some icons and start button. When the OLEDs don't need to work hard, they last long. Higher brightness would just be an unnecessary strain on the eyes anyway.
@veilmontTV6 ай бұрын
Do you game on it in hdr at all? Hdr is too stunning to not use it at all. Most of my gaming is in sdr
@Chickenbreadlp6 ай бұрын
@@veilmontTV Yeah, FH5 and Hitman 3. Most games I play don't support HDR, tho if they do, it's just amazing on this monitor 👌
@MrRocking1459 ай бұрын
I think it goes a LONG way towards trust in specifically Alienware monitors that Dell includes burn-in protection with the standard warranty. I even upped mine to 5-years of warranty, so I really have nothing to fear in terms of burn-in.
@bagelborrowing60859 ай бұрын
depending on where you live, the place of purchase may also offer burn-in protection. Best Buy in USA for example offer 4-5 year protection and it includes burn-in
@memorycard10009 ай бұрын
I'm still using my old 1080p Sony led. I keep my tvs for many years. Thats why I still don't like the feel of Oleds. I'd go with the Sony X90L if I would buy something right now. 🙂
@damontroch47659 ай бұрын
As you should. It's a great dependable tv that doesn't suffer from any of these BS OLED nonsense and its cheaper. And it still has deep blacks .vivid realistic colors and you can actually watch it.
@neoburst18 ай бұрын
one thing that could be really interesting to see in oled monitors considering much closer proximity would be using mmwave as a presence detector, turn off the display when you walk away and back on again automatically when you return
@Krytern7 ай бұрын
Or you could press a single button instead of being mind-numbingly lazy.
@damienlobb858 ай бұрын
To be fair, a well designed LCD panel won't degrade as shown in this video. The inherent technology doesn't have a natural breakdown mode. Many old LCD monitors and TVs still look great. We have a 27" iMac from 2010 that still looks amazing for its age.
@Sean-ll5cm7 ай бұрын
I'm on a 27in iMac from 2010 right now and I'm only now seeing some degradation, but it has been on for 10 or so hours a day every day since 2010! My Sony Bravia from god knows when (well over a decade) is also still going well with no noticeable degradation and it too has been only every day for long periods of time. There's no denying OLED looks better, but when it comes to longevity we have a winner.
@Snipermunki5 ай бұрын
I have permanent burn in on my B2 thanks to a certain KZfaq channel that puts orange borders around all their videos. Thankfully, it's only really noticeable in scenes where a majority of the screen is red, the rest of the time it's barely noticeable. Now I use the zoom feature on the TV to hide the orange border.
@DaddySizeIt5 ай бұрын
these sorts of stories never get told. I have an MSI MPG 271QRX QDOLED monitor that I think I'm going to return today before my return window ends. I'm a very heavy user, 9-5 job at the desk, and then more hours gaming. You got burn-in just from watching KZfaq on a TV! I'm also looking at a new TV, I'm replacing a plasma I bought in 2009. It's starting to fail but only got used 9 of the last 14 years as it was in storage. I'm probably going with QLED LCD just based on how I hate how direct sunlight washes out plasma/OLED. Let alone image retention (which my plasma has in spades) and burn-in (which I don't have permanent burn-in).
@Snipermunki5 ай бұрын
@@DaddySizeIt I never worried about burn-in because I never saw signs of it, until one day I fell asleep on the couch with a lo-fi music channel playing, and when I woke up I noticed some image retention. Later on I noticed the burn-in from watching lots of GameGrumps videos with the same orange border. To be fair this was after I'd already had the TV for several years. Now I'm much more careful about changing the zoom if I'm watching something with static elements for too long.
@dustylamborghini35779 ай бұрын
No problem making to the end of the video with such a wonderful host 😊 I could listen to (and watch, obv) her speak until the end of time itself.
@mcbseb9 ай бұрын
Well, it looks like LG OLED TV's are still the best to choose. Besides fantastic picture quality, it is the only manufacturer that provides straight, logic, and firm panel refreshing schedule that helps keeping it in a good shape. I've got LG CX for over 3 years now, with something between 7 to 9 thousand hours (estimated only on long compensation cycles that had gotten triggered when I was about to turn off the TV - I don't have a service remote) of usage and it still looks perfect. After that time I can easily recommend OLEDs, but of course only if owner really varies the content. We use it for movies, cartoons, some other videos such as YT content and console gaming. LCDs inevitably have become obsolete to my taste. Great job RTINGS! Love your content.
@gaz742057 ай бұрын
Tests on the task bar in windows would be very useful for monitors.
@jerrymckinney86302 ай бұрын
I've had my S95B for a year n a half n sadly I've gotten my first burn-in. It's been flawless up until now, but the old Apex Legends Health bar has finally solidified it's place on the bottom left of my TV lol.. It's faint and unnoticeable in most content. But I see it during color test screens. Love this TV. It's amazing for gaming and movies, just sucks that it degrades over time n doesn't have the longevity that a backlight panel does.. my Sony x930e still looks flawless all these years later... worst part is now that I've experienced OLED, I don't think I'll ever be able to go back to backlit panels n I'm doomed to forever buy OLEDs that don't last as long...🤦♂️
@fvalloАй бұрын
How many hours did u play?
@jerrymckinney8630Ай бұрын
@fvallo hard to say exactly but I average 3 to 4 hours about 4 days out the week after work and I usually do a binge day for 7 hrs or so one one of my days off. Not just Apex, good variety of games. The TV is also on thruout the day for regular viewing by my wife and kid so it has a lot of hours on it over the last year and a half. I think with my next one I'll try to change up some routines with it and run pixel refreshes more often.
@TheCampervanBuilder9 ай бұрын
as a Samsung S95C owner, I'm still wowed by the picture quality and love the screen saving features it has, not noticed any burn in yet and don't expect to either the way I have things running, top notch tv
@Captainrave9 ай бұрын
I’ve modded my S95B for more brightness, play games with static elements, have 2000 hours on it and not a mark so far.
@Barrycounter9 ай бұрын
It is very stupid to give any "real credit" to this tests, because not a single person is gonna see the same tv channel for a whole year without changing it neither turning off tv. From my point of view, this is more like a misinformation spreading... Right now, it is simple: OLED > MiniLED > LED A normal person will use tv mainly during late afternoon/night, so the lowest brightness for an OLED model should not be a problem (2023 OLEDS have quite good brightness anyway...).
@amigosan9 ай бұрын
this test is giving us very very good data across all the models, all the new iterations of panels / software updates etc... it is meant to be very stressful. and furthermore, it is really useful for people that use a lot their TV as PC monitors for example (and knowing they will use it as a TV monitor too, yes there are a lot of people that stress their monitors) so no this is not "misinformation", this is really stressful tests for all those TVs that give us very good data, and that can be in some way used to know how it these products will behave with some real life usage that could be close to those stresstest@@Barrycounter
@RunForPeace-hk1cu9 ай бұрын
@@Barrycountercoping hard 😂😂😂 This is why Apple didn’t use OLED on their laptops and monitors 😂😂😂
@MrStrictlyOLED8 ай бұрын
@@RunForPeace-hk1cuthey are actually having OLED in 2025 for MacBooks and iPads are getting them in 2024
@MyNameIsPetch7 ай бұрын
2021 is now an older model, guess my 2016 OLED should be in a museum!
@veilmontTV6 ай бұрын
How much have you used the 2016 model and how is it holding up?
@MyNameIsPetch6 ай бұрын
@@veilmontTV I don't know how many hours exactly, but I've used it a lot and haven't noticed any degradation
@valentijnverheije71409 ай бұрын
Amazing video! One question remains unanswered here however: how much brightness do you lose over time? OLED tvs are already less bright on average than high-end VA panels in for example the neo qled range of Samsung.
@SpookyFairy8 ай бұрын
That's a great point. I wonder if based on their screenshots of the tests they can extract this as well but maybe they need to use a specific device to give reliable results and if they haven't done so, it's probably something they should as they can give us both data as they already running those tests fora long period of time.
@duppressor81646 ай бұрын
I've been considering switching to OLED for FPS/MMO gaming for some time now. I am currently using the infamous ZOWIE-Benq XL2546K (TN panel) and kinda don't bright reds/some funky colours on the monitor. So I became interested with OLED monitor tech. However, I am glad I watched this video. Burnin wither or not of which game I play having a static interface is something I shouldn't have to worry or think about needing to manually reset my monitor. At least in my opinion. Especially in the long run. Should burnin effect my decision of getting the best performing monitor that money can buy for FPS gaming? No. Its just something I shouldn't have to think about tbh. Each to there own though. I respect folks who want to go through that effort for max performance! I'm stay with my XL2546K despite the funky colours.
@GetOffMyyLawn9 ай бұрын
I got a Sony Bravia LCD a few years ago, specifically because my wife leaves the news on the TV while working. Looks like I made the right decision avoiding oled for my home... although I would love a burn-in free micro led display.
@plmn939 ай бұрын
Yeah, each year we hear about how it's no longer an issue, then a year or two later we find out otherwise.
@luis60249 ай бұрын
Just buy a Sony OLED, they are the most expensive, but they have the best materials, quality and durability. I dont believe these tests showing a Sony with problems.
@wapprez9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the update folks! Did Samsung mention whether the new realtime compensation runs on the S90C as well?
@Inmediovirtus9 ай бұрын
Seems like it. It has improved somewhat. But everything is better than sony oled tv's regarding lifespan.
@boltongame50549 ай бұрын
So you have the s90c ? I have one and for now I don’t have burn in and you ?
@philreilly69595 ай бұрын
Wow! I've just found your channel. I'm blown away by how professional you are! I'm thinking of buying the Samsung S90C, so I found your channel while researching it. Thanks for all your great work.
@sanky41679 ай бұрын
One year with my a80j. Watch movies on a OLED panel it's in a different level. If you can buy one, go for it.
@leolundgren39899 ай бұрын
Fantastic video! I've been so tempted to get an OLED monitor but I think I'll wait a couple of generations first. Especially since I do a lot of editing with static images on-screen. The tech market will sort this out eventually I'm sure. :)
@joshuac98057 ай бұрын
So this is how CNN gets all their views
@OfficialDreamTheater5 ай бұрын
"The secret Denocrats don't want you to know!"
@OfficialDreamTheater5 ай бұрын
The secret that the left doesn't want you to know!
@sawdust86914 ай бұрын
😂
@thawhole94 ай бұрын
Trump lost 🤡
@vaudou_3 ай бұрын
@@thawhole9The clown emoji by you is peak irony btw. So butthurt
@Marc.Google2 ай бұрын
Thanks for performing these outstanding tests, discovering and fixing the panel short compensation cycle bug with Samsung TVs!
@SVT_LIGHTNING9 ай бұрын
I've been using my Alienware dwf non stop with over 8 hours a day with work and gaming since jan of this year and no burn in at all that I can tell. If there is some I cant see it or notice it even when running the oled burn in test. People stress way to much over burn in. Just use the damn thing. Alienware has warranty for that if you just can't sleep at night worrying about it. I personally can never ever go back to a ips or tn or va panel.. My hdr is on 24/7 for work and for gaming and auto hdr picks up the rest for games that don't have hdr. Even took off the matt reflected coating berceuse I wanted the colors to pop more and boy do they. Now we just need a 38" oled 3840 x 1600. I would buy one in a heart beat to replace my dwf. Cool video though. Love to see the results from all the testing.
@bournechupacabra9 ай бұрын
Awesome job as usual! Though I'm a little confused about your recommendation for monitors. You say that it should only be for gaming and that general PC use, TV, movies should be kept to "an absolute minimum" because "it only took 700 hours of use to get scree damage". Firstly, I struggle to see how gaming would be safer than movie or TV shows given that many games feature static UI elements. Secondly, the article on your website says that after 3,600 hours of continuous max brightness usage, there is very little image retantion/burn in. This is evident in the 6 month 50% gray slides. As you mentioned in the video, the 50% slides are more representative of real world content. I know the ultrawide vs. 16x9 makes it a bit more complicated, but again, the differential brightness on the edges isn't visible on the 50% slides. Your conclusion about OLED TVs is that most people don't need to worry about burn-in with normal usage, so then why recommend such extreme caution with the OLED monitors? Why are TV shows and movies ok on the OLED TVs but not the OLED monitors?
@Stecbine9 ай бұрын
Gaming will fill the whole screen but TV & movies is 16x9 and will fill only the middle portion which works the panel harder and causes increased burn-in with black bars on the sides.
@lilpain19979 ай бұрын
@@Stecbine most games have 16:9 cutscenes though. A lot can be modded but in my experience so little actually have 21:9 cutscenes. Also HUDs are almost always in the same areas and are almost always white...
@JoonKimDMD9 ай бұрын
Is it bad to use them for 16:9 ratio?
@lilpain19979 ай бұрын
@@JoonKimDMD yes so KZfaq and films in 16:9 are best avoided.
@JoonKimDMD9 ай бұрын
@@lilpain1997 There are not many contents that are not 16:9 though :(
@OrcCorp8 ай бұрын
This is why a QLED TV is a much better option these days. Much brighter image and no burn in risk. Sure, OLED has better contrast, but I do greatly prefer modern QLED. I have a 65" Samsung Q70B as my main monitor now (for the past 6 months), and compared to my previous 55" LG B1, this QLED is much better for gaming and movies.
@TrescoFresco8 ай бұрын
Been using a 55in S95C as a monitor for 4k gaming since it came out... have had no signs of burn-in or dropouts. And I don't know if I could take a TV being any brighter.. Panel light output is set to medium and it's still brighter than any TV or monitor that I've owned. I mean.. buying anything just bcuz it's brighter than this. Is just ridiculous to me.
@shuny11r239 ай бұрын
I picked up the Samsung Odyssey G8 OLED 2 weeks ago. Ive been using it with HDR on. After watching this video. Idk if that was the smartest thing to do lol
@anothergol9 ай бұрын
I own an LG C8 (2018) and it also overcompensated for the burn-in. It's very faint, it's where the browser's navigation buttons were, because the bar wasn't auto-hiding back then. They're slightly lighter disks.
@Bryan-T9 ай бұрын
TV networks should change to a dark theme to avoid this problem. White text on black background.
@s4nder869 ай бұрын
Or people can just buy LCD screens.
@Stecbine9 ай бұрын
More than anything tv networks need to move their logo's around so they are not static in the same spot all the time.
@Nicholas_Steel9 ай бұрын
@@Stecbine Or have more frequent ad breaks... :P
@Serpream9 ай бұрын
I been telling people to hold off on OLED for past year as still very unsure how "long term" they really are under PC monitor use. This video has been invaluable. So Thank you for doing an actual real world test!
@BorisMakingTea9 ай бұрын
Had the S95B frim release, ive never manually initiated a pixel refresher snd i can say it doesnt have an ounce of screenburn. I check probably every two months snd all good so far!
@Vermilicious3 ай бұрын
It's unfortunate that image retention is a problem again. There was so much hype around OLED, but now that it's here in full, we see problems like this. I still haven't gotten any OLED displays, and I'm reluctant to get one. Any display that doesn't last at least 10 years, really shouldn't be made in the first place.
@mithrandir4919 ай бұрын
These oled panels also have an absurdly high failure rate during the manufacturing process, they are probably like shoving the bad ones in the production line hoping no one would notice.
@RadialSeeker1139 ай бұрын
I knew it. 5k hrs is nothing btw. My current odyssey g7 va has over 15K hours on it at this point. I could never tolerate oled burn in or baby my monitor for it. The great response time + good enough blacks will tide me over till mass micro led
@silverwatchdog3 ай бұрын
To be fair this experiment is the equivalent of waterboarding your screen 24/7. LCD panels, including VA panels also burn in and degrade hard from this. I have seen the pictures from ratings and somehow the oled burn is far less distracting then the lcd panels with burn in. It’s basically the CNN bar being visible versus half the screen being super dim.
@HullRupture4 ай бұрын
It's worth noting on older models just how reliable compensation cycles were. Because I remember on my c7 oled it stopped making the clicking off noise 5 minutes after when the comp cycle was meant to run and just fully turned off immediately every time instead. I did a reset and thankfully normal behaviour was resumed. Most people wouldn't even think about looking out for details like that. In fact people still turn their oleds off at the wall after use I bet as well. I'm sure a lot of the older burn in cases were from tvs not running their comp cycles where appropriate.
@Germanbattle839 ай бұрын
It would be nice to see a sort of "round up" of how every individual model is doing, that gray screen for each model? or maybe just the more mainstream ones? (I understand that is probably a gigantic thing to ask in terms of workload and it is much easier said than done :X) But once again, THANK YOU very much for this outstanding effort and work to help us better understand the different oled adaptions and features.
@RTINGScomRD9 ай бұрын
You can actually see every model and each uniformity slide by month here! www.rtings.com/tv/tests/longevity-burn-in-test-updates-and-results
@Germanbattle839 ай бұрын
@@RTINGScomRD aaaah, sweet, thank you!
@pmatus9 ай бұрын
You're great. If I was born in North America I would definitely apply for a job at your company :) You do such a great job raising awareness to what's the OLED panels are and what differs them from LCD tech. Keep up the perfect job you are doing! Best regards from Poland!
@RTINGScomRD9 ай бұрын
Thank you very much from Montreal! 😄
@boltongame50549 ай бұрын
@@RTINGScomRDyou from Montreal ? I can apply to for a job ?
@pmatus9 ай бұрын
@@phillipbanes5484 that's a strange logic. I was born in Europe and that's the continent not a country. Why that sentence is wrong? I wrote about North America because I wasn't sure if they are based in Canada or US.
@pmatus9 ай бұрын
@@phillipbanes5484 The very true sentence is: I was born in Europe (currently United Europe). It doesn't matter what country I was born, I can get a job in every EU country any day. That's the power of EU. If this isn't, true about North America (especially between USA and Canada) than sorry about my mistake. This was a somehow a shortcut of my thoughts.
@pmatus9 ай бұрын
@@phillipbanes5484 Further conversation makes no sense to me.
@marcusaurelius29887 ай бұрын
So to cut a long story short ; OLEDs still have burn-in risk including the latest Samsung OLEDs ?
@shmookins7 ай бұрын
"Still"? As the video opened with, burn-in is a natural feature of OLEDs. ALL OLEDs will burn. These companies can only try and slow it down, but nobody can prevent it since that's how the organic part of it behaves.
@jaystone48167 ай бұрын
Correct, and the very nature of OLED means the picture will dim over time. No one knows yet how long before they dim to the point of unacceptability. The compensation cycles only mask the image retention/burn-in by making the entire screen uniform and do not restore the OLEDs brightness.
@jaystone48167 ай бұрын
Agreed. OLED is not and will probably never be a mature technology. Aside from burn-in, OLED screens will dim over time, so there's a longevity risk that still needs to be determined.
@Evaquiel7 ай бұрын
RTINGS/R&D can NEVER stop doing these tests. Samsung/Companies could very well be selling products with a small life-spam so we're forced to buy more (not saying this a real conspiracy, but it wouldn't be nothing new - remember lamps?) This makes me REALLY in doubt of whether go with the Samsung QD-S90 Series or the LG WOLED C Series. Cause other then brightness and frame interpolation, LG is just better and more reliable in everything.
@vane9090906 ай бұрын
I'm not concerned about burn ins within warranty period. I'm concerned about what happens after year 3-4-5.
@niteridering9 ай бұрын
Thanks Rting for the effort ... Overall seems LG OLED has better resilient for burn-in than other brands.
@bagelborrowing60859 ай бұрын
This is true but it's also the most returned monitor because it is so dim that its laughable. Of course it won't burn, the damn thing is too dark
@AlexanderPavel9 ай бұрын
@@bagelborrowing6085That was a problem with early firmware. The current firmware is much brighter. The dimness was also only a problem in SDR mode.
@CarlMartRod9 ай бұрын
@@bagelborrowing6085yeah, so choose between burn-in or a dim display.
@klausdauer8 ай бұрын
@@CarlMartRod High Risk High Reward
@hooglieable4 ай бұрын
@bagelborrowing6085 I have the lg 27 ultra gear oled, I just close the blinds, I wouldn't want it any brighter with the blackout curtains I have. I, purchased the LG because it more resistant to burn in. Ps5 gaming is unbelievable. I would never buy qd-oled from samsung until it proves it can resist burn in.
@Drinkyoghurt7 ай бұрын
What this test has shown me is to not watch any CNN, which I've been effectively doing for my whole life. Also, it would be nice to see how brightness is affected over time due to burn in and compensation.
@natenate339 ай бұрын
ive been using my alienware oled for 12 months and id say i use it for about 4 hours everyday and have 0 noticeable burn-in. i wouldnt say im abusing it but im definitely not babying it. that 4 hours is mostly gaming or watching tv so im pretty impressed how well it has held up so far.
@mz19299 ай бұрын
assume you guys will be adding the G9, and or all the new Q1 Gen 2's coming out. 32" 4k 240hz , and 27" 1400p 360hz
@henryfan489 ай бұрын
Could you give an more detailed update on the LG 27GR95QE-B? Since it uses LG's latest MLA panel pretty sure the MLA WOLEDs will directly compete against 2nd gen QD OLEDs next year and you now have long term data on both 2nd gen QD OLED and MLA WOLED, I've had mine GR2795QE for over 3 months and it's been great!
@betterfly73989 ай бұрын
What do you use that monitor for? Is it just gaming and videos or do you do other stuff?
@michaeldejode4739 ай бұрын
This reminds me of CRT monitors, I'm staying with LCD because I have a tendency to give my display(s) plenty of time for burn-in to happen. Always the same windows in the same place too so guess OLED isn't for me.
@Liquifiedpizzas7 ай бұрын
To be fair, late color CRTs are much more resilient to burn in than OLED. Most will go 20k hours without any burn in, I have one that just hit 20k hours of windows use and there's 0 burn in. CRT burn in was a much bigger issue for black and white sets and earlier and cheaper color sets.
@michaeldejode4737 ай бұрын
@@Liquifiedpizzas I already thought that later CRT's were more resilient to burn-in than OLED but last time I bought one was in the mid to late 90's (or maybe early 2000's), so I have no way of testing/comparing. I just avoid anything that has this issue. I do sometimes think about all the awesome screensavers I used.
@Liquifiedpizzas7 ай бұрын
@@michaeldejode473 that's fair. I'm willing to try OLED for the insane benefit in content consumption, but even I'd need to be careful, I watch lots of 4:3 movies and shows, and play old games. I'd also obviously want to watch new, 2.39:1 movies on it, which would also have bars. I'd definitely want a main LCD monitor for now for using Windows.
@Datacorrupter2348 ай бұрын
my 13 year old panasonic plasma has zero burn in only problem is it started buzzing a few months ago
@Fromatic7 ай бұрын
This is a great test, have been looking at the LG c2 and burn in obviously a concern, seeing the results after 10 months and only a slight burn in from the banner at the bottom which has been displayed continuously for 10 months puts me at ease, the rest of the screen where there has been varying content looked nice and even
@jjhervey41536 ай бұрын
Currently typing this on a 42" LG C2 and we have a CX upstairs. Had the CX for almost 3 years and the 42" C2 for a year, no issues at all.
@user-ti3ch7on8l9 ай бұрын
Thank you for the hard work that went into this Rtings. Really useful information
@RTINGScomRD9 ай бұрын
And thank you for watching! 😄
@jimmehvideos9 ай бұрын
Can we just clone Abby and have her present everything? I could listen to that delivery all day. Perfect.
@samson72949 ай бұрын
She is awesome! Props to her and the writing for delivering the data in such a digestible fashion
@ViralWatchMedia7 ай бұрын
For anyone here new to OLED's here are some tips, DO not buy a used OLED unless they come with the original warranty, If you buy used without warranty you will just be out of luck on getting a free replacement if you get burn in within 3 years of owning the display, that warranty is what makes these things worth every penny, burn-in is fully covered in most if not all OLED's TV's and monitor warranties. So if you somehow get a little burn in in those 3 years you can just send it in and viola you get a brand new display sent back to you. second tip is to not overthink it. just as long as you dont keep static images on screen for a long time your gonna be fine. set a blank screensaver to come up automatically after a few minutes and use an animated or just blank black wallpaper. autohide your task bar, let the refresh cycle run at regular intervals (Dont skip it!).
@jaystone48167 ай бұрын
Another reason not to buy a used OLED is OLED panels dim over time. It's inherent to OLED and the longevity of an acceptable image has yet to be determined. Warranties cover burn-in, but screen dimming is not.
@garryj63119 ай бұрын
Dear Rtings, all these tests don't mean anything if you're not going to implement a ranking system... Like a top 10. That way people making a huge investment on an oled screen can know which brand and model handles "burn in" the best.
@antivanti9 ай бұрын
Gray slides are probably not the best for checking burn-in on a WOLED display as the white subpixel is the least affected and in heavy use on a gray slide. Checking on a red or purple slide however you'd clearly see degradation of the red subpixel. Also I have an LG E7 that I have absolutely abused, using it as a computer monitor etc and heavy use for 6 years now and lots of gaming. But the only thing that has left any permanent mark is the KZfaq logo and KZfaq progress bar from the BUILT IN KZfaq app. And those are only on screen for short periods of time and not while any video is playing. It's appalling that LG would allow a built-in app use a full bright fully saturated red logo like that
@insu_na9 ай бұрын
You're not wrong, but the white subpixel is also the one that has to shine the brightest in most scenarios. Almost all of the heavy lifting in terms of brightness when using my WOLED monitor is done by the white subpixels. The color subpixels are of course also used, but generally the things on my screen are either black & white or videos without static elements. So far I haven't noticed any burn in, but I have noticed some very annoying firmware issues regarding brightness control
@antivanti9 ай бұрын
@@insu_na When displaying gray and white the work is divided over all the four subpixels which means little wear. But when there is fully saturated primary colors only one subpixel is used so it has to work really hard. Which is why the red KZfaq logo and progress bar are so bad
@insu_na9 ай бұрын
@@antivanti yeah, but for most people they shouldn't be on screen most of the time. I'll do some test images with 5% red, 5% green and 5% blue
@rrrr36669 ай бұрын
Why are Oled TVs prone to burn-in while Amoled Phones just literally run as day one even after 5 years of use? I'm still using OnePlus 6 from 2018!
@orimu8367 ай бұрын
I guess OLED is still a no go for me. Im so afraid of burn-in especially at the current price point of OLED monitors. Thanks RTINGS!
@thubten20018 ай бұрын
Make sure you verbally summarize the results because the burn in on my LG65C8oled prevents me from seeing the burn in that you are showing
@craazyy229 ай бұрын
I would love to know how much of the brightness have gone by time.