We have been asked, "Is it OK to shoot Steel Case Ammo out of my Ruger American® Rifle Ranch in 7.62X39?" in this Tech Tip Production Manager Mark Gurney give you our take on it.
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@toddboone333 Жыл бұрын
For anyone who is unfamiliar with surplus 7.62x39, if you run any ammunition with corrosive primers, you’re going to need to rinse the barrel, bolt, and firing pin with water after using it. Then dry the parts and apply a small amount of oil.
@2wheeleddemon9996 жыл бұрын
That's good because I didn't buy a cheap rifle to shoot expensive ammo.
@italianrelic Жыл бұрын
Word!
@buzztp51197 жыл бұрын
Put iron sights on it and I will buy one
@travisp117 жыл бұрын
Off topic here but you guys need to release this rifle with iron sights. I think it would help fulfill the "Ranch" nomenclature that it has.
@TheZombieburner6 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Sick of centerfire rifles not being sold with iron sights, given up on buying a rifle because of it.
@jackstoutamore85413 жыл бұрын
@@davidfaria1084 ~500 dollars more for iron sights and a forward mounted rail?
@smartacus88Ай бұрын
Been 6 years. They ain't gonna do it.
@travisp11Ай бұрын
@@smartacus88 yep with the generation twos out now I don’t see it happening
@rogerhurd64346 жыл бұрын
Ruger would sell a hell of a lot more of them if they accepted AK mags and maybe had some iron sights.
@mygreat785 жыл бұрын
Agreed! I put a set of Dove's Custom Guns irons on mine. They're worth every penny.
@tawaitai3 жыл бұрын
I have an idea? Put your own👍🏽
@kurtglo2 жыл бұрын
LOL- Ruger is selling so many now without the AK mag and iron sites that they can't keep enough in stock. So I'm sure that they're not losing any sleep over it...
@rogerhurd64342 жыл бұрын
@@kurtglo Yeah there is a lot of stupid people in this world.
@barndweller45736 жыл бұрын
I think one of these is going to be my next gun purchase. I have a AK I already reload Brass ammo for and I prefer shooting bolts. I just love my 300 Blackout Ruger American with my suppressor and 153 grain cast powder coated bullets with Trail Boss powder. Great sub sonic round and only cost 6 cents a round.
@covfefeholyfield68006 жыл бұрын
I want to want one of these but will wait until they've been out long enough to establish a record with the steel cased ammo. Any gun chambered in this caliber should not only function with the steel cased "military" spec ammo it should be designed around it. The inexpensive bulk steel cased ammo is what makes this caliber cool. I have 5 rifles in this caliber and none have fired a single round of brass cased ammo. If I buy a bolt gun in this caliber I will likely only run steel. If I'm going to pay 15-20 buck for a box of brass cased ammo. It's going to be 30-06 not 762x39
@eaznutts57145 жыл бұрын
Did you buy one yet? I have run 500 rounds of steel cased ammo without a single hiccup. Tul, wolf, gun show chinese, all group about 1.5-2 inch at 100. Red Army Standard will avg .75-1.25 at 100. It's my favorite rifle to just blast away with.
@A_Brit Жыл бұрын
I absolutely loved the story about the ammo.
@davidgabbard135119 күн бұрын
My very first round from the little ranch failed to extract, not eject, extract. It was older Norinco steel. I honestly didn't look for a CIP stamp but had picked that ammo first because the box was stamped " for hunting use," and it was Boxer primed. Ironically, this ammo brings a premium on GB. Norinco 122gr SP silver box. After removing the bolt, which had overrode the case head, I douched the chamber from the muzzle with ballistiol, then tapped out the stuck case with an old cleaning rod. Wolf, Tula, and Barnaul runs fine.
@crankygunreviews3 жыл бұрын
is it OK? I bought it specifically to shoot steel cased ammo... It's amazingly accurate with cheap ammo.
@johninphx93607 ай бұрын
The most accurate ammo I've found is remanufatured surplus from Burnal . It's fantastic, and I bought 2k rounds of it during the primer shortage in 2020. It's fmj, but I get just under 2 inch groups regularly with a 4x leupold. 🎉🎉🎉
@markg1173 жыл бұрын
Crazy! I will vouch for his comment about buying ammo of unknown origin! I bought 7.62x39 where the BOXES have an alphabet that I am clueless in and, YES, it would not function in my run of the mill AK-47 which normally eats anything. It was through an uncle of a friend of a friend of a friend or something along those lines. LOL!!!! All I know is that there is someone out there laughing and saying “SUCKER”!!!!
@Prepare2Survive7 жыл бұрын
Will light primer strikes be a problem with steel cased ammo like the mini 30 or did you fix that problem in this new bolt gun?
@jacobwhitt41517 жыл бұрын
Prepare2Survive I've gotten about 200 rounds through mine with tula wolf and brown bear without any problem at all
@caseyb13466 жыл бұрын
I fired 120 rounds and only had 2 light strikes.
@toddwills94927 ай бұрын
That does help thinking about getting the gen 2 version im definitely getting the standard gen 2 30-06
@thomaskeenan460110 ай бұрын
I think it’s a good idea to break in your gun before running steel case. The first round I fired. Being steel case non corrosive jammed and broke my extractor…. Thought Ruger was quality… sloppy bolt.
@Pickle3127 жыл бұрын
Does Ruger offer a standard American Rifle with a longer barrel in 7.62x39 or only the Ranch variant?
@henryholliday16 жыл бұрын
only the ranch but I bet they will release other versions of it soon
@CountryboyBOB Жыл бұрын
I just got one and it’s a great 200 yd gun cheap to shoot accurate very good suppressed they sell out at academy almost immediately. Get one.!!🇺🇸
@ratagris213 жыл бұрын
7.62 x 39mm combloc can be shot out of just about anything its chambered for, but just remember to treat it as all ammo is corrosive.
@GuamanianBlood6195 жыл бұрын
It might just be me, but I noticed tulammo (7.62x39) had more kick than my Winchester or fiocchi. But had my best grouping with fiocchi Brass so I'll stick with that
@d.victorpellegrino4772 Жыл бұрын
why not recommend a stronger firing pin spring to avoid light primer strikes?
@predcon16 жыл бұрын
I've honestly never had an issue with Wolf or Tulammo. The only steel cased ammo I've had jam a Ruger was Silver Bear. Granted that's steel case with a zinc finish, but still.
@dunzerkug7 жыл бұрын
So, what about people who recognize Cyrillic and can read Russian??
@rainmechanic6 жыл бұрын
Tapered bottle neck cartridges like 7.62x39 were designed around steel cased ammo and any firearm that is chambered for the cartridge will chamber and fire steel cased ammunition. When you factor in the manual operation and camming action of a bolt action it should be a no brainer that this rifle will function with all x39mm ammo. That the comments section is a complete shit show says more about peoples lack of a deeper understanding about firearm physics than it does anything else.
@trynsurviven24404 жыл бұрын
Hey Ruger...why don’t you put some iron sights on this rifle??
@jorgesolis9468 Жыл бұрын
They make the scout version of it
@xcessdj6 жыл бұрын
Basically........ you answered my question. Thanks
@chad_83137 жыл бұрын
So are you fixing your Mini 30?
@lookchahshway51827 жыл бұрын
Bought a mini 30 a month or so ago, shot a box of Tul Ammo with no problems at all
@Skyfall-sv8df6 жыл бұрын
Chad_83 wish they would!
@jamescalhoun64827 жыл бұрын
Thats great news !!! I will not buy a gun that will have issues of shooting whatever ammo available in said caliber . I have been wanting a mini 30 for quite some time but for the price of gun and then the chance of it not firing every round and having to mod it would tick me off to no end . So I have steered clear . If ruger would make the mini 30 to fire this ammo they would sell more of the mini !!!
@justus0056 жыл бұрын
Left hand version please!!!!
@INeverMetAGunIDidntLike5 жыл бұрын
Amen to that!
@jerrykemphfer94364 жыл бұрын
Left hand?
@MegaBait16167 жыл бұрын
i had to Flitz the bolt on my rifle for a week just to get the bolt to cycle :( should have bought a CZ 527. wished Savage still made a x39 bolt rifle....................nice cheap rifle but the back end of my bolt is plastic and out of the box it sucks. varnish coated cases sticks in chamber too :(
@DickWheels6 жыл бұрын
Howa makes a mice one
@jeffell Жыл бұрын
The problem with the 7.62x39 Ruger American is with the magazine follower and spring. Bullets will nose-dive down into the magazine when being fed. A stronger magazine spring helps alleviate this problem. Still, Ruger should address this.
@kdk2006 жыл бұрын
Surplus ammo ok?
@84751431176 жыл бұрын
Question: It is well known that the Ruger Mini 30 has an issue CONSISTANTLY firing Russian steal ammo, does this new Ruger American Ranch 7.62x39 have this SAME issue?
@landon30936 жыл бұрын
René Avila 2 boxes through mine without a problem and it shoots the steel case as good as the $20 a box fusion ammo i have as well
@84751431176 жыл бұрын
Good to know.. I hate to buy this rifle and it have problems with the Tula or Red Army ammo (CHEAP AMMO) as I have seen the Ruger Mini 30 have issues with; seems NO point to me to buy American brass ammo (EXPENSIVE) if I can shoot CHEAP Russian steel ammo which is what intend to run thru it :-) THANKS!
@84751431176 жыл бұрын
Landon, I picked up my Ruger Rifle 7.62x39 on Friday and took it to the range today. I fed it cheap TulaAmmo 122 gr, RedArmy 122 gr, and RedArmy 124 gr and it ate up all the steel ammo I fed it with NO issues! After zeroing it at 100 yrds, I was able to keep hitting the target on mark at 100 yrds & 200 yrds.; this rifle is a WINNER! :-) Thanks for your insight!
@landon30936 жыл бұрын
René Avila the only malfunction I've had out of almost 200 rounds of steel case ammo was the bolt jammed when I shot a corroded cartridge that I suspected would malfunction anyway over all I'm very please with my rifle
@landon30936 жыл бұрын
And it's already killed 2 deer
@markvidales7 жыл бұрын
so would you use steel case for a basic mini 14? I have one its not a bolt action not sure if it matters
@1stOPFOR7 жыл бұрын
Mark Vidales steel case is perfectly ok to shoot. Some guns are picky and don't like it. My opinion if you have a gun that won't function steel case ammo, get another gun. I shoot steel in all my guns.
@markvidales7 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! I love my Ruger mini 14!
@ZRUSOutdoorsChannel7 жыл бұрын
For some reason the mini14 will take steel case and go bang every time.. not so much with the mini30.. as for steel case in the mini14, be sure to use it in a factory mag.. most aftermarket mini14 mags seem to hang up on steel cased ammo.
@spyderxtra7777 жыл бұрын
JUST ME not exactly true, the lacquer doesn't melt or come off at all, it's the poor expansion of the steel case necks that causes a lot of crud (powder fouling) to blow back into the chamber upon firing. When enough builds up you get a stuck case. 7.62x39 is more resilient to this because of the tapered case, .223 with its relatively straight case however, is much more prone to sticking in a cruddy chamber..... solution? Use a chamber brush and scrub every couple hundred rounds or so and you'll be fine 😉
@lesliemay13236 жыл бұрын
reintroduce the round in the model 77 I have one of the limited production made in about 89 or 90
@TheMadShredder4 жыл бұрын
Im a newbie to rifles, which caliber do you recommend for hog and deer stopping power? The American Ranch comes in a lot of calibers Ive never heard of but I was thinking the 7.62. Can someone help? Can someone list the stopping power for me? 300blk, 350 legend, 5.56, 7.62, etc?
@ALEX1734463 жыл бұрын
I would recommend either .308 Winchester or 7.62×39 (for short distances up to 100 yards) 308 will get there and then some and it's been used by our military forever. Now rifles. I would recommend a howa m1500 , ruger American or savage 110 hope this helps have fun it's a great hobby to get into
@jorgesolis9468 Жыл бұрын
308 best BANG for your buck, and 7.62x39 best bang for your BUCK
@toddboone333 Жыл бұрын
It depends where you live and what kind of deer. If you live in Appalachia, you’re shots on whitetails are going to be less that 200yds, 7.62x39 will do just fine. If you’re hunting mule deer in Idaho and you’re going to take shots out to 450 yards, you’re going to want something like a 6.5Creedmoor or above. I know, mule deer can be taken with much less. But I’d exclude the exceptions and go with the rule.
@jorgesolis9468 Жыл бұрын
@@toddboone333 ehh within 500 308 still is a better option if shots start at 450 and extend out further then yeah 6.5 creedmore would be the way to go
@whiskeypapa88426 жыл бұрын
What's a good scope for this Mark? Thanks.
@jackstoutamore85413 жыл бұрын
VX Freedom 3-9x, $200 and very versatile
@IceAge200174 жыл бұрын
So basically, wolf + American ammo is OK.
@INeverMetAGunIDidntLike5 жыл бұрын
Ruger, wake up and put some iron sights on that rifle!
@springerlawfirm45996 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know the bore diameter?
@elijahmonn37575 жыл бұрын
.311
@averagespaceman10517 жыл бұрын
Hmm I have a mini 14 anyone try to use a mini 14 mag in this or is the mini 30 mags the only way?
@davomoto427 жыл бұрын
Average Spaceman You probably won't be able to reliably feed from fully loaded mini 14 mags, .223 is nearly straight walled and 7.62x39 has a decent taper, making it more difficult to feed from fully loaded .223 mags. If you only load a few in it might work for you though.
@mikebolton38166 жыл бұрын
Different caliber mags. Mini14 is .223/5.56. The mini 30 is for 7.62x39. Dont interchange. If they feed at all, they will piss you off. I think what your really asking is... Can I use my mini14 drum. No.
@averagespaceman10516 жыл бұрын
Mike Bolton I guess I’ll wait for a 223 that takes them if they ever make it
@mikebolton38166 жыл бұрын
Average Spaceman what I dont know is... if the American Ranch chambered in .223 takes the mini 14 mags... that would make sense.
@Flemdragon7 жыл бұрын
Please left handed....
@poo34336 жыл бұрын
Does it require a tax stamp because it has a threaded barrel some one please anwser
@henryholliday16 жыл бұрын
no only if the gun has a barrel less then 16" or you buy a suppressor do you need a tax stamp