daisy: tired, deadpan, vocally emotionally drained daisy, after being shown explosives: :o !!!!!! :D !!!!

Jon: gifts explosive Daisy: +5 friendship

Sooo....Jon listened to all the tapes? All of them? Even the one where Basira and Melanie are talking about Martin's crush on Jon??????????????????

John: Hilltop road has been bothering me. Also John: Going there seems like a bad idea. John is learning, only took him 4 near death experiences.

Jon squeaking in defiance that he was kidnapped and that’s why he couldn’t be a spy has the same energy as “I COULD BE ON DRUGS!”

no need to be scared of whoever is listening in to the tapes, tim. it's just a bunch of nerds who want you alive and well

i really am convinced at this point that, despite everyone freaking out over elias being able to hear the tapes, he actually has no control over them and its jon who has control over them. elias never seems to turn them on during moments where im sure hed rather not jon hear things, like leitners murder or daisys statement or melanies dad. and when elias does acknowledge them, its always something like 'Jon will want to hear what we say' or 'jon when you listen to this back' or 'we can record this for jon later.' I just feel like jon has control of the tapes, not elias.

remember when tim was like "statment of **joe spooky** regarding **suspicious happenings** and now he's just... bitter?

I like hearing jon catch himself before he asks a direct question

Jon and Tim finally talking it out was so cathargic

Kind of funny how Tim refers to Basira by name but calls Daisy "that weird murder cop"

Now I'm just imagining Jon wearing one of those hyperspecific targeted ad shirts but it's wildly off. 'Don't mess with a hard-ass grandma who loves fly fishing with a secret passion for tiny teacups and was born in November!'

"Buy one spooky manager, get one free!" I love Tim so much Edit: "That's not fair! Sometimes I get kidnapped!" "Let's just aLl tRuSt ELiaS."

I love the little moments where Jon catches himself about to ask a question and then rearranges it to give Tim free will to tell him how he feels.

Fun fact! Due to audio issues, Jon is actually voiced by Alex for a few seconds in this statement. At 3:45, if you listen closely, you can hear the change. It goes back to Jonny at around 3:50.

I'm surprised Gertrude had any skin to take. Figured she was mostly decomposed

Super proud of Jon for doing his damndest to not Compel his friends/coworkers. Talking like that must be super hard, but he's doing it because he knows and that's so good of him.

I am SO happy that there is the beggining of communication between Tim and John again. Also, Daisy's definitely fallen to the Hunt. Basira's suspicion last episode and now the fact that she was weirded out by the shirt? Did she felt the blood in a way? Deker talked about apparently Hunt's followers/avatars/whatever have a strong link with blood...

How much is the tapes being turned on supernaturally vs Jon just having ADHD?

Literally NO ONE talking about the protag who got stuck here from another dimension

Jon's "I'm still me, Tim" hit me SO HARD the voice acting is always top notch for everyone but that line hit different!! my heart..

THEY'RE FINALLY COMMUNICATING OH THANK YOU

transported to an alternate universe where she doesn't exist. fun.

whenever the title is even vaguely related to buildings i go "oh man!!! is tim coming !!!!! am i gonna hear tim!!!" i love tim keep thotting it up king

"I knew sasha for years we-" pain nothing but pain

So if Jon listened to all of the tapes, did he hear Daisy and Basira gossiping about Martin's crush on him?

i love that when John was asking how Tim was doing, he caught himself and deliberately phrased it so it wouldn't be a direct question. respecting his coworkers' privacy

I don't think we've ever heard Daisy sound genuinely happy before the revealing of explosives.

"it's not like they were building over ancient burial grounds" oh, honey. what makes me curious the most is that the tree in this story was still standing - did the owners put it back up? did it regenerate? whats with the tree and the obligatory TIM!!:") im happy they had that talk AAAAA

Daisy being all excited about blowing things up, i love that woman

As a janitor who has seen and experienced some shit while on the job, I was basically screaming to run as soon as she mentioned the closet.

I heard "Daisy" as "baby" and almost had an heart attack

I was so sad Jon's trying so hard to not Ask questions so that he doesn't accidentally compel Tim into saying anything. Restating everything so that hhis friends can CHOOSE to tell him things instead of being forced to. It's about trying to keep the relationship balanced by giving them agency

"What do you think is listing to the tapes!?" Us: 👁👁

God, my brain just goes wild when I listen to these by this point in the story. Podcast: Hilltop Road Me: The Desolation! Podcast: I don't know who you people are. Me: The lonely! No, the stranger? Podcast: Used to cleaning disgusting things Me: The corruption, right? Are we getting the corruption in here? Podcast: Had to brush cobwebs out of my face on the way down. Me: THE WEB.

Excuse me!? "I listen to all of the tapes" That means Jon has heard the conversation about Martin having a crush on him!!

This lady and the girl from Lost Johns Cave need to start a support group for people who fell into a different dimension

tim and jon finally talking healed something inside me :')

How can you feel fear while listening to Spongebob's closing theme?

I've never heard Daisy be so happy as she was after seeing explosives.

I have listened to 114 episodes in a little over two weeks time and to say I'm obsessed is to put it lightly. Lol This channel is amazing and the whole team is an absolute wonder. The story is compelling and the actors are excellent. Well done all. That being said I have two questions. The first being are any of you Warhammer or 40k fans? I get Chaos Gods vibes from the 14. The second being have you ever considered making your series into a graphic novel? I really think it would be a great medium for your work and I for one would throw my money at it. Thanks for the amazing content and keep it up!

I find it interesting to see Jon go from being fed on by the eye to kind of feeding from it. This was really shone in the America episode where we find out that he has gone from being drained by statements to needing them. In this episode, I loved seeing some actual communication between Jon and Tim also.

I feel like the Eye is us and the tape are our lense into the goings on of the Magnus Archives.

has anyone noticed how jons mentioning martin a lot more now and how he said he listened to all of the tapes meaning he probably heard about melanie and basira talking about martins crush on jon. love the fact im more fixated on the relationship lore atm lollll

I like how Tim and Daisy do a good job distracting you from the biggest piece of foreshadowing in the series

Stop dragging us into the story Like I’m good it’s scary enough without insinuating we’re part of it too Like IM GOOD I’m very invested don’t worry

i really really liked the narrator. "do they expect me to clean this?" god, yeah, i feel that. tim... at least youre talking. do NOT need the canon implication that im trying to go after the circus too i dont have the skill for that bud. daisy... oof

I really love how the tape recorders have developed a habit of just turning themselves on at opportune moments. It's a very fun way to explain why certain conversations are recorded.

ok so thats the third time that martin has been associated with spiders in some way (he found the statement) and. hm.

*reading the title* me: ohh i bet its gonna be about hill top road jon: "regarding a cleaning job on hill top road" me: ooooh yeah its big brain time.

sometimes therapy is bringing plastic explosives to a fear summoning ritual involving the skin of your old boss.

Tim has just been S2 Jon this whole time ;~;

The "other side of the tapes" thing was a bit overdone this episode, which is precisely why I think it's *not* us. There's something else out there...

I love how a lot of statements, like this one, just click into place after listening through the full series.

This episode is retroactively one of the most crucial lore building moments by the time you reach the end of the series. But on the first listen through, it just seems like shenanigans from the Web and the Stranger. But ultimately it was just the Web, secretly spinning its web in ways you don't recognize until you see the full picture.

19:35 you can just imagine Jon looking over and grinning while he says this, like a kid showing you what new thing they learned.

JON-"Sometimes I was Kidnapped." Me: I mean yer not wrong but that doesnt build confidence Boss.

i'm guessing this is spiral or stranger, even though web would make more sense for the building.

"Whatever is on the other side of those tapes is just as invested in stopping the Circus as you are in avenging your brother." Yes we are! There is nothing we can do to help you but we are indeed invested. Thank you for keeping the recorder running.

It’s been three days since I started and I’m already here

Jon listening to all the tapes (including the one where Melanie and Basira gossip about Martin's crush) and then at the end where he asked Daisy if Martin specifically was okay with the plan...little sus Jon👀

Man Hearing Tim and Jon talk to each other again is a relief to me. I still miss my good girl Sasha 😢

ok i know this is like a serious moment but jon listened to that tape where basira and melanie talk about martin's crush and im just talk to each other already please

Ah yes, the right way to deals with these entities. *explosion.*

The most off-putting part was the fact that there was actual communication going on this episode

ahhh time please I wanna hug you, I'm glad he's finally talking about his problems with jon though. He's going through so much

George Icarus, the unmentioned name of the folk in the previous episodes, the one who came first before Gertrude. Another archivist? But yeah, maybe not, decomposition stuff...

Just want to note, the door handle of that door in the statement being warm is similar to the coffin from breekon and hope. I think warm handles and other inanimate objects seemingly unrelated to the desolation may have appeared elsewhere too

> strange tree > travel to another dimension/universe > tree bending/snapping MONUMENT MYTHOS?7?7?7?7?

My theory from this episode and what we know so far: John heard the tapes! I repeat, John heard the tapes! So he definitely heard when Basira and Melanie were discussing about him and Martin! The fact that the real Sasha has been forgotten by almost everyone that knew her and all their memories are replaced with the Not!Sasha really breaks my heart each time. As for the statement itself, it's quite obvious that this place is related with the Web through out the years. Now, was this place somewhere where the Web tried to do their ritual but it was stopped? And that's why it's still "tied" with the Web still? But there are also mentions of warmth which makes us think about the Desolation, so is this place also linked with that fear because of the ritual Agnes had done with the tree? Was the ritual that she hurried to do with the others of the Flameless Fire(?) cult but they didn't finish because she died (did others die too? I can't remember, it was the episode where someone had fallen in love with Agnes) actually the ritual to bring the Desolation in the real world? Is this why the Web and the Desolation are always against each other, because they both need the same location or something from the same location for their own rituals? The witness stating again and again that it was her choice or it was her own thought to do something shows that she was under the Web's powers of thought control and manipulation, but her losing her mind mostly implies the Spiral instead, so what is going on here? I mean, here not existing in this world and most of the info she gave being false point to either mass memories and history changing (which we have saw from multiple fears so far) or just her own memories being changed or her not actually being from that world; like parallel universes sort of thing. But the latter sounds unlikely for this series, so it's most likely one of the two things that are mentioned first. Still, this location in the Hill Top Road seems vital in the story for (at least) some of the fears, so this episode was alot confusing for us, listeners, who still don't know fully what's going on with everything. Finally, when John asked Tim who he thinks is using the tape recorders to listen in, I think it shows that John already suspects what's going on with them. Or, at least, that he suspects that they are not fully related with Elias and the Eye and they are related with someone else who, in my opinion by now, is either Gertrude, John or us.

Daisy....... EXCITED?!?!

I'm happy Tim and Jon are talking again. :D Daisy sounded excited about the explosives.

i think that we are over looking the fact that the lady from the statement traveled dimensions/parallel world in a similar manner to the monument mythos quite an interesting detail id like to know more of it

"And easy job… Hilltop road" HAH SIKE YOU THOUGHT Nothing good ever happens on Hilltop Road

love how every character's relationships are improving just from explosives lol

I'm listening to this show again (so spoilers I guess) and I'm fairly certain Anya came from another dimension through the crack in hilltop road, I've been skimming through the comments and I'm surprised noones thought of this. Although I suppose, unless the fears exist in other dimensions too, this wouldn't explain the spooky stuff happening in her version of hilltop road

This one is *really* satisfying on a second run through on the series.

SPOILERS Listening back after having listened to the whole thing... this statement about hilltop road is so clever, being where everything spatial interweaves its entirely likely the cleaner in this statement came through the tear from another universe - perhaps even the same one the magnus protocol is set in.

so much representation in this show, including divorcees! 🎉

Spoilery speculation: ... ... ... ... ... I can't help but feel that Hill Top Road and the warping of reality there is going to be important in fixing... uh... things. In season 5. Particularly given the web connection and how involved Annabelle has been with our dynamic duo's journey.

They're enacting a secret plan that Martin devised? Color me intrigued.

I never thought about it but this statement takes a different turn when considering the finale of the series. And the possibilities of the Magnus Scrotocol

This is my third listen through and I just now fully understood the importance of todays statement. The crack indeed...

This is my second listen through. *BIG SPOILER* I didn't catch this before, but that poor woman was pulled through realities by the Web, maybe in a way to test it's theory about escape. That's why she didn't know the institute, why she couldn't find her friends.

Oh. Oh! Oooooohhh.... Second full listen-through of this series, and I get this statement. Interesting.

20:08 There's a weird distortion around this point.

I don't know about anyone else but my favorite recurring episodes have been the ones about Hilltop Road

When I see Tim in the cast list, my heart sings :)

When you're relistening, and realize why everything is just... Wrong for Anya. What the Web used that crack to do.

Jon not going to hilltop road is a total spider thing. Isn’t it. Because lerning about a spooky place and not going to kick the door down (and be subsequently kicked down by whatever lives inside) or at least sending someone to investigate is kina out of character for jon. Also on an unrelated note: did Daisie Smell the Hunt on Jons Shirt from America?

Magnus Archives me fazendo teorizar Se existe um multiverso... Lindo

“Hill Top Road, a nice SIMPLE job” lmao

Daisy you are... too happy xD but glad to hear like that I guess? Wait... Jon hearing all the tapes then... Martin your little secret is out

if jon listened to all the tapes does that mean he heard melanie and basira talking about martin’s crush on him

(spoilers!!!!) i genuinely love this statement so much. its so... uninteresting, in a way. it seems like just your average normal statement on spooky happenings, the most lore-relevant it seems is confirming hill top rad was very weird, and its overshadowed by the conversation right after. you have to scroll more than usual to find a comment referencing the statement, and the first one (at least for me) isnt even about anything that actually happened. yet, it somehow contains possibly the MOST IMPORTANT PIECE OF LORE, a whole lot of very important set up for the ending. on my first watch (after i was done being excited that *finally*, there was a dimension jump, something i was hoping for from the begginng), i completely forgot about this, then on my second i was like the tv pointing guy meme, remembering what annabelle said. now, just... i was so excited to hear it again.

Hiltoproad and times going wrong was mentioned by Tim on season one so definitely time travel / reality jumping

Does anyone else think the "shifting furniture covers" could've been... ya know, really dense spider webs? If you've ever seen a Fisher spider's web, with all the little babies inside... it almost looks like a cloth.

Spiders from a dark crack in the fire house going insane?! Damn, this a crossover event?

I audibly gasped at the dumbest moments, I'm getting too into these

This is the connection to TMP episode 17 where the Statement giver finds his way into a different world and meets himself.