thank you, i was wondering about that comparison. i do not have enough experience with subwoofers to really name the type of sound i want, but precision sound about right for me, then add more subwoofers for more output, spl and fun.

How does the Rythmik E15hp2 stack against the Arendal 1723 2S? Im thinking the Rythmik would be better?

@@nodoubt1616 I never heard the 1723 2S, only the 1723 1S.

Couldn't agree more!

Nice bro!! I never heard the 1508 but I've owned the smaller 1205 for a few years now and it's really great!

I'm on the fence between a pair of FV15HP2s, or a fv18 or a FV25HP.

@@LichaelMewis I usually say two is better than one for optimizing bass more evenly across your theater/space. If you have the room for two and the budget for 2 I would go with the dual FV15HP2 subwoofers.

@@keepingupwiththejones2933 Would you recommend going with dual 15' ported from Rythmik? Was thinking of dual 15 ported in front and the FVX12 for the rear.

hell yeah brother! Are you in the free discord? discord.gg/nemopropaganda you should post some pics!

That sounds exciting! Hopefully you've got the subs narrowed down.

I tried bro, I emailed them asking about this speific model and they never replied.

That model has interested me in the past as well. Frank what other subs have you compared it to?

@@JPWinters Compared it with smaller footprint models from Arendal (1961), JL Audio (d110), and Rythmik. The PSA provided the best performance/options at my budget. Looking to add a 2nd sub to help even out nulls.

Hi Enrico!! So cool to see you comment & active on here. When a product is this good, it makes the review very easy, so thank you for making a fantastic subwoofer!

@enrico what are your opinions on the G25HP? Do you have those? Why did you choose the g22 over g25 hp? Thanks 🙏🏼

@Novilicious half the price maybe?

added a pinned comment for that.

I have not heard the Tekton subs unfortunately. The G22 is great, might be a little too extreme for your room though. How about the e15hp2?

your answers are here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qKuqY5aJ0MnXnH0.html&ab_channel=NemoPropagandaReviews

Its the discord. Link is in the description my bro. Come on down.

no it doesn't really work like that, just like plugging the port on a vented sub won't make it sound like a sealed sub. Most dsp sealed subs already have a a fairly strong boost in the low end (JL Audio, SVS, etc...) to make up for how small they are.

thank you bro.

hell yeah brother, excellent choice! if you're in the free discord please post some pics when you get it!! :)

you will not regret it my bro!

I'll try and reach out to KK for that 8" model, the rest are too big lol

@@NemoPropaganda KK dxd 808, dual 8" is already discontinued few years ago I think. Now they have one model with a single 12 inch. And 2 model with dual 12 (push pull). Somehow they never update the website.

@@1psxpat oh man, I don't think I will review it then, I don't want to review anythign too heavy right now.

@@NemoPropaganda hahaha... don't worry about it. I agree with you, especially if you have to buy with your own money to review the sub, a big sub. If the company send you the sub for review that would be ok. I guess these company MK and KK do not send their product to reviewer. that is why not many review of their product online.

I wouldn't know man, I havn't heard that sub but I know ML has made some cool stuff over the years.

hey whats up Buddy, I've never heard the E22 so I couldn't really say.

E22 looks awesome! I considered those before I got my pair of the Rel S510s. But honestly, go for Rythmik. They’re just cool looking and sound great!

I have not heard the FV18.

that's a tough one because rating the E15hp2 anything below 100 just feels wrong. I don't think I can quantify it any further.

@@NemoPropaganda I can respect that.

great choice, you will be pleased!

well what is your take as you should have it by now, does it supply the chest thump you hoped for? What is your overall take on it so far??

I have not heard Elysian but I had the Evo 4.2 and those had very strong bass already that was a smidgen heavy sounding. I felt any sub would pair well with them. As far as REL or Rythmik they are both really good. If it were me I would buy the subwoofer that best enhanced the beautiful look of the Elysian and in my opinion that is easily a pair of REL T9X. Of course this much larger Rythmik will extend lower and play louder (it is 102lbs!). Either way any of the subwoofer you are thinking about are all very good.

@@NemoPropaganda much appreciated!

You can place them anywhere in the room but corner loading generally will not sound the best unless you have a way to tune things. If you corner load something with a side firing driver you just want to give it a few inches of clearance. But either way Rythmik makes some awesome front firing subs too so you def have options.

E/F 15 for sure. While both are fantastic subwoofers I prefer the visual look, shape, size, dimensions of the more standard looking front firing 15" over the G22. As far as sound goes both are world class but I still ever so slightly preferred the 15 and I'll admit part of that could have been psychological due to preferring its looks :)

@@NemoPropaganda very interesting - I’m glad I asked because I was leaning the other way!

@@danielpwagner you can't go wrong either way :)

Hey bro, thank you for the kind words, I'm honestly not 100% sure on how much wall clearance dual opposed subs need, I'd ask Rythmik just to be on the safe side but if it's an issue just grab an E15hp2 instead. All Rythmiik subs are amazing, if it were me, for OCD's sake I'd grab the E15hp2 for corner placement or something like an FVX12 or FVX15 if you have the space.

@@NemoPropaganda Awesome thanks man I appreciate it

@@chrisrichardson958 yee! feel free to join the free discord and let us know how it goes.

@@NemoPropaganda Thanks I definitely will

Hi Tauran, I have not heard M&K, their subwoofers are a bit large and more advertised for studio use so I find them a bit unactractive for a living room. For that reason I have decided to not cover them.

@@NemoPropaganda Not to bad in size for the new MK Sound 400w RMS X12. 17.7"W x 25.7H x 18.1D. When you compare to a G22 at 17"(W) x 19-3/4" (H )x 21-1/2"(D).

@@Espiritiv yeah that's too big for me bro, I don't want to review stuff that is 100 lbs or more, it's seriously difficult.

Yeah the most transparent class d amps.

oh nice dude!!! the kc62 is so awesome! expensive but really awesome. The monolith will have really heavy bass, if you like that give it a whirl but it'll be a very different sound where the bass continues to force itself to be the focal point of the presentation.

My only gripe with the kc62 is the lack of protection for the cones. The first day I got it I put it inside of a cabinet to conceal it. What happened next was a tragedy. When it fired up I heard a funny rattling noise. The rear facing cone was smashing against the power cord and put a few small dings in it😱. As far as subs I think I might be an SQ guy so the fv15hp will cover my needs. I like the fact that you can get a monolith for around 1100 dollars right now but I want a sound that will blend and not dominate thanks for your help.

@@samsneediii1793 oh man that's a bummer, the cone is magnesium so it's pretty hard to damage but as you know certainly not impossible.

It's actually pretty common when you get the chance look on eBay most of the ones for sale have cone damage. I was tempted to sell mine after it happened but it still sounds so damned good.

I appreciate that but those are way to heavy for me :). I'm souther california.

No, the sub is extremely neutral and precise.

M&K isn't really popular in the US and those Perlisten subs ship on a pallet, I don't have the space nor desire to accomodate a pallet only to repalletize the subwoofer 2 months later to ship it back. It's just too much of a headache.

each one is a leader in their price category.

Hell ya brother! The nuance in my rythmik really enhances my Jonah's Brothers CDs..

NSYNC > Backstreet Boys

You're not living until you're cranking Miley Cyrus on that bad boy.

I'm just here to LOL at your music

Don't forget the all-time greats Nickelback

that's gonna be more a function of the room. I tried both ways and didn't have much of a difference but the sub is designed for the drivers to be side to side. If the driver is facing you then the cables will be visible.

oh man that sounds like some epicly large subs you have! I've still not heard open baffle subs but I'm sure I will some day.

KF92 are awesome!

Or Arendal 1723 2S!

Get a huge one and use it as a table. I have a gold table cloth and lamp on mine.

@@mcbowler that's actually a common way I've seen people setup the G25HP next to couch as an end table, same with the FV15.

2 fvx12 for sure!

From my Discord Server: I get this question a lot because the two are similar in price and feature dual opposed drivers but it's important to point out the massive size difference between the two with the G22 being substantially larger and weighing nearly 100lbs. The KF92 is an amazing subwoofer for any situation where a compact form factor AND extreme extension are the top priorities. Being so small and extending so low the KF92 will not have the headroom (maximum output) of larger subwoofers like the Rythmik G22, that's the trade off. The Rythmik G22 can do everything the KF92 can do and more. Being larger means it can extend as low and play those lower frequencies at much louder volumes and with a larger sense of scale. Rythmik note to note distinction, definition, and bass fidelity overall are a step up from the KF92 but this is more important for critical 2ch listening. In a theater setting the KF92's bass fidelity is still very good and you'd be hard pressed to find fault with it outside of its inability to play at neck breaking volumes in a large room. Will the KF92 have enough output for you personally? That's a tough question to answer but I can say with confience a single KF92 will have enough output for most people in a medium or smaller room and this is where in home trials can be very helpful if the small size is at the top of your prioirity list and your only concern is output. For those that know they are in that 10-20% of basshead extremists and size is not a concern then you should just go for the G22. Hope this explanation helps those of you that were stuck between the two.

Thanks! My concern was whether this Rythmic would be slower or have less extension than the Kef, but doesn't sound like that's the case. Think I'm gonna go with the Rythmic.

@@jjnewbold nope, it's the total opposite :)

My G22 should come Thursday, thanks for the advice!

This being my second subwoofer and the first that didn't come with a sound bar, break-in is definitely a thing. It was barely noticeable at first and I was freaking out, now this thing rattles my room. Lol

I don't mind people sharing their experience as long as there is context. Some rooms can be incredibly challenging, some speakers are incredibly challenging to pair with subs also. For example Elac B5.2 and Focal Kanta No1 are wildly different in price but both were extremely hard to blend with a subwoofer for some reason. If the room has major bass issues you may prefer a smaller sub that will be less likely to upset the room, something small like a REL T7X could be a better fit for your room but it may also be possible that you already have the quantity of bass you are happy with and any more then that will not be enjoyable. You tried something, it didn't work out, at least you tried :)

Maybe the bass configuration of your speakers could affect things too

@@RennieAsh it absolutely can.

​@@NemoPropaganda, when I see men are showing off their speakers, plus one or two subwoofers, most of the time they are placed for esthetics, not sound quality.

100% agree

Perlisten cheapest dual 12" is $5000 so there is a huge price disparity here. I'd imagine a lot of that more money spent goes towards increasing overall output so the Perlisten can probably play alot louder and be pushed even harder.

@@NemoPropagandaA fair comparison might be 3 G22s vs the Perlisten. I’d be super interested in your review of perlisten. Maybe one day.

I tried, they did not respond to my emails.

@@NemoPropaganda It's sad. I am buying two subwoofers for a 35 square meter living room. 80/20 for movies. I would need a lot of authority for the 15-40hz range. Budget 2500e. I live in Finland so Rhytmik is not an option

@@janneseppala1116 it's pretty normal bro, my channel is small so I'm not surprised. I would give up on dual subs doing 15hz at that price point but you'll probably have good output down to 20hz.

oh man, you're in for a serious treat!

No can do bro, that things is 185lbs bro 😱. I don’t review anything over 100 lbs. i made an exception on the G22 since it was 102 lbs :).

So buy two of these…

Do you not have line outputs?

I was emailing with BK and when I told them I was a youtube reviewer they stopped responding. I sent 3 followup emails and still got no reply so I don't think I will be revieweing their subs unfortunately.

@@NemoPropaganda it's a shame. That doesn't inspire much confidence... almost no information and/ or reviews about a not so well known brand and on top of that it seems like they don't want reviews and publicity...😕

@@NemoPropaganda And, there's your sign…

I think their website is more just to buy stuff, if you want more service you can reach out to their dealer Ascend Acoustics which should be more comunicative.

@@NemoPropaganda thank you. I decided to go with a different brand. Awaiting, delivery. Thanks for your help.

@@daveyurkovich9459 no problem man, what did you end up with?

@@NemoPropaganda I’m going to try the RSL.

@@daveyurkovich9459 oh cool, that's not really in the same ballpark but it is a lot cheaper and as good as you can get under $500.

REL's new Predator 1510. I reviewed it here kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ot6Zqc6SyKu1ZnU.html&ab_channel=NemoPropaganda

@@NemoPropaganda thank you

I'm just trying to save the world 1 back at a time lol

The shape of the G22 can be odd due to its height but many people use it as "end table" placement. If you want something better looking with substantial output consider the Rythmik E15hp2 with its gloss black option. I reviewed that also and I thought it looked stunningly good yet simple and clean and its a serious performer!

What sub bro?

@@NemoPropaganda Don't laugh.. Bic f12

@@Arch702 BIC F12 sells for $350 to $450 usually and has 175w and is known to have some reliabilty problems. I think at that price it is better to buy the RSL Speedwoofer 10S MKII that is known to be a very high quality subwoofer.

Would you go G22 or FV18? Those are my choices now and its hard to make! I have a MK push pull sub so i am use to tight accurate bass

@@Espiritiv Rythmik is all about tight articulate bass. You can't go wrong with either. You will get more tactile bass and dig lower with the 18. I have not heard the 22 . I have my dual FV18 REV2 PAPER CONE SUBWOOFERS for 6 months now. Still watching movies I have experienced hundreds of times and they sound so much better with Rythmik.

Always had my eye on rythmik but ended up with dual JTR RS1s. More expensive, yes, but I finally reached end game on my bass for my budget

@@tvolkman88 i am sure those subwoofers sound amazing. You will be happy for a long time

@@tvolkman88 Nice! Quite a price difference though :) Im sure you will put your 2400watt to good use.

I hear ya, I personally prefer the E15hp2 for that reason. Ultimate precision is not something I'm personally hunting for but some people really love it and for those that do the G22 is as good as it gets.

@@NemoPropagandawelp, i went with dual F12Gs, more ambitious than my earlier plans. honestly i feel like final plans should always be more ambitious 🤓

@@WeeWeeJumbo nice dude! I'm happy you got a pair of badass subs.

yeah I've heard it, my buddy has a pair in his home theater. It's pretty damn amazing!

Has no tactile response? I find that hard to believe. I think that comment needs further clarification.

@@JPWinters I’m just repeating what the people at Rythmik said. I’m no expert.

@@deankim6687 Would be nice to follow up with them to ask this and share findings. Im torn between those two models as well

Due the dual opposed driver design, the G22 produce little to none tactile response. If your goal is tactile response then the E22 or the E15HP2 are the way to go. In fact, the F12 produce more tactile response than the G22. I would tag the G22 as a subwoofer for real audiophiles and 100% use for music. In fact, a pair of G22s are the subwoofers I have in my main system, which while a 7.3.4 ATMOS system, I use it like 90% for music and 10% for movies.

@@enricocastagnetti2400 So G22 has about same cone size area as an 18" driver. If it doesnt have as much "tactile response", you would suggest an E15HP2 and not an F18 with 18" driver? For me i will be like 20% music, and 80% movies, but want accurate reproduction of the movies, and subsonic capabilities.

one of the best!

ah yes, simpler times...

I need your help Nemo. G22 or 1510. Speakers are zu souls. Room is about the size of yours

it's a small company. In my experience a 3-5 day response time is fairly normal but I understand not everyone is okay with that.

I bought 2 F18's and the second one had a dead amp. I got a very quick response with a new amp in the mail right away.

I have contacted them numerous times with queries regarding some of their models . Some of them were quite silly and novice issues . My personal experiences have been amazing . Both Brian and Enrico have both been very prompt and helpful .

I feel like their marketing is less confusing than PSA but agree about the old looking website for sure.

decisions decisions...

that's a long discontinued subwoofer that cost over $5k when it was sold, I would expect the G22 to easily compete as 6x 8" is not too much more surface area than 2x 12" drivers that are more efficient.

@@NemoPropaganda agreed! The justifiable comparison here is if someone where to ever consider buying a used sub 1, the g22 could be a fairly comparable lateral move that comes with warranty.

@@95redz oh absolutely, I would not recommend anybody buy a 15 year old subwoofer unless its insanely cheap. The glues that hold the spiders and surrounds in place can breakdown around that age. If its a foam surround it can also breakdown around that time also, and the compenents in the plate amp have been run through thosands of heat cycles and may also be at the end of their life. Sure some subs will go for 25+ years but its not that common. I think many of these older giant subs were great for their time but may sound unpolished compared to something that Rythmik makes today.

@@NemoPropaganda thanks for your time to reply!