Z Goku is HIM

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Saiyan Scholar

Saiyan Scholar

10 ай бұрын

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In this video, we look at Son Goku in Dragon Ball Z.
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@SaiyanScholar
@SaiyanScholar 10 ай бұрын
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@b0xE_
@b0xE_ 10 ай бұрын
​@IamJay02 I mean, it's a shit game and everyone knows that so he along with other people probably get paid a lot to do sponsors.
@user-te9ym5ky3iBagman2.0
@user-te9ym5ky3iBagman2.0 10 ай бұрын
Sorry that I am late I only able to comment on like Saturdays so Yeah
@lovelylow69
@lovelylow69 10 ай бұрын
No
@codysuddeth6768
@codysuddeth6768 10 ай бұрын
The Master Roshi speech ur talking about was in the anime
@Nihl_017
@Nihl_017 10 ай бұрын
Forgive me for being harsh to you that one time
@DreadPirateBluetail
@DreadPirateBluetail 10 ай бұрын
I felt like I was winning with him” perfect quote.
@dirtyredd3213
@dirtyredd3213 10 ай бұрын
Indeed it's so fitting
@LemoneMan
@LemoneMan 10 ай бұрын
I agree. There's just something about DB that is able to get me emotional and i love it.
@straytonox1492
@straytonox1492 Ай бұрын
Vegeta>>>>
@ivanbluecool
@ivanbluecool 10 ай бұрын
Just rewatched dbz from start to freeza arc. Goku had a ton more style and flair in z with the tricks he uses to get shots in on opponents like standing on nappa to punching him man that was sweet.
@streptococo4735
@streptococo4735 10 ай бұрын
Bro when he disrespected Nappa constantly was so fuking cool. The dude was in absolute control and was willing to humilliate his cocky opponent. And DB Goku was also a savage beast, he took shit from NO ONE.
@Unfunny1018
@Unfunny1018 10 ай бұрын
​@@streptococo4735fr he just violates most people in og db lmao
@ionelpetrea7594
@ionelpetrea7594 10 ай бұрын
Wdym dbz was trash except the freeza arc but we aint talking about that dbs is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better than dbz and db and any other dragonball series
@Unfunny1018
@Unfunny1018 10 ай бұрын
@@ionelpetrea7594 nah nice bait though
@literally-nobody242
@literally-nobody242 10 ай бұрын
@@ionelpetrea7594 bait used to be believable
@impackmusiq5236
@impackmusiq5236 10 ай бұрын
Z goku always felt like he knows what to do next he always has the ideas and the plot always evolves around him and his choices
@ryszakowy
@ryszakowy 10 ай бұрын
yeah even when he had no plan he would think of something on the fly real goku would see meditation vegeta and say "you're finally putting your mind in harmony with your body" not as why is vegeta snoozing
@weirdface1846
@weirdface1846 10 ай бұрын
he does, when he went to namek he knew there were all sorts of tough guys so he trained under 100x gravity, when androids came he underwent intense and tough training with piccolo and gohan, when cell came he decided to use the hyperbolic time chamber to train since it was their best shot, when majin buu appeared he taught the kids to fuse so they'd have a chance with buu
@jonathanluzgonzalez7510
@jonathanluzgonzalez7510 10 ай бұрын
​@@ryszakowyomg deadass I love this comment I agree
@impackmusiq5236
@impackmusiq5236 10 ай бұрын
@@jonathanluzgonzalez7510 thanks
@impackmusiq5236
@impackmusiq5236 10 ай бұрын
@@weirdface1846 fax bro like I said z goku always felt like he knows what he's doing
@whitemamba24xe98
@whitemamba24xe98 10 ай бұрын
Z Goku is very diverse and very well-written. I’m ashamed he’s not the same in Super!
@blue-12316
@blue-12316 10 ай бұрын
who ever says goku was always stupid never watched z
@justinarzola4584
@justinarzola4584 10 ай бұрын
Super Goku is almost a different character,Super is canon but it feels even more non canon than GT in terms of characterization and fladerization.
@lonewolfnomadic3403
@lonewolfnomadic3403 10 ай бұрын
​@@justinarzola4584agreed. GT Goku is tons better than SUPER Goku
@alastorthedemonslayer4257
@alastorthedemonslayer4257 10 ай бұрын
@@lonewolfnomadic3403 In my head cannon, GT is cannon. Super isn’t but only some parts like Beerus but just went back to sleep after battle of gods and we keep the direct quote from Goku in that film: “I hate this! This is a power I couldn’t achieve on my own! I’ll use this form so I can have the chance to fight you lord beerus.” Keeping that idea would mean he would straight up never turn into it again after that film and also he don’t absorb it during the fight like the manga. Ssj4 will still be his ultimate form at the end.
@uzookafor8721
@uzookafor8721 10 ай бұрын
@@lonewolfnomadic3403 nope
@LemoneMan
@LemoneMan 10 ай бұрын
50% of people who have watched all 4 series will tell you Z is peak.
@kakarotyung7056
@kakarotyung7056 10 ай бұрын
1 z 2 db 3 dbgt 4 dbs
@edwardjones1482
@edwardjones1482 10 ай бұрын
I do love the og db but I do like z better
@edwardjones1482
@edwardjones1482 10 ай бұрын
For me it’s Dbs DB Dbs Dbgt Although there are some parts in GT I like better than super and there are some parts I like super better than gf. Like goku being just brain dead a lot of the times in super is one thing I hate about super
@LemoneMan
@LemoneMan 10 ай бұрын
@@edwardjones1482 then why is it number 1?
@LemoneMan
@LemoneMan 10 ай бұрын
@@edwardjones1482 I cant think of a single reason my dude. Z is just superior to super in every last way.
@ProjectSparkTM
@ProjectSparkTM 10 ай бұрын
I've always loved how Goku was potrayed in the movies and in GT. His growth was shown clearly, he thought ouside the box with techniques and outsmarting his enemies, he was a father first, and yet, he still was a tad naiive and sweet outside battle. He took each fight seriously and even knows when someone is beyond help [moreso in the movies]. Super has it's moments too, but they're few and far in between. I wish we could see that side of Goku again: a fighter with a heart of gold.
@devilish6878
@devilish6878 10 ай бұрын
Yea and in GT even when he was trapped in Hell facing Frieza & Cell, he could’ve easily gone super saiyan 4 and displayed the unfathomable gap between his power and their own, but he chose to remain in his reverted child base form because it was already more than sufficient for the likes of them but it was also perceived on their end as Goku’s size being the deciding factor in the fight. And then he when they begin fighting Goku proves that it couldn’t be further from the truth and instead of boasting his greater power to them he actually stops to remark valid criticism like to Cell that he a lesson he’d learned throughout his life as a warrior is that if you spend as much time training as someone like Cell does judging other’s abilities than your fighting truly suffers as a result. He also states to Frieza, half jokingly I’m sure but also that he does have the potential to be better as a fighter and that mindlessly launching attacks developed by other warriors at him like with Krillin’s patterned destructo disk is just beneath him despite his detestable nature as a person but is just a disappointing display from someone of his level of battle knowledge/ability to perform such amateur attacks.
@joeskys2362
@joeskys2362 10 ай бұрын
Yep Z Goku is defiantly HIM material!
@Cinquan
@Cinquan 10 ай бұрын
This video almost made me cry. This is Goku, who he should always be no matter what the Dragon ball story is. I grew up with this Goku, and everything Scholar said in this video is on point. Dragon Ball Super would be so different if we still had the original Goku. I really dislike what the writers did to his character. The GT ending said Until We Meet Again, I'm still waiting to see OG Goku again. So, I thank you Saiyan Scholar for these types of videos. All true Dragon Ball Fans needed this.
@DBZ_AnimeWORLD
@DBZ_AnimeWORLD 10 ай бұрын
The manga is slowly bringing back that Goku . And if not just consider this Goku as an alternate version 👍🏽
@Cinquan
@Cinquan 10 ай бұрын
@@DBZ_AnimeWORLD Agreed
@azuresaiyan9005
@azuresaiyan9005 10 ай бұрын
A really cool but understated part of Goku’s growth is how he changed after training under Kami, and just growing and learning as a fighter. A lot of people point out how Goku use to be way more savage prone to killing his enemies as a kid. He was a wild child who acted on his impulses. However you see a change in Goku’s temperament after he came back from his training with Kami. He’s more merciful and calm during situations compared to when he was a kid who would rush out against anyone who did him wrong. Some good examples of this are when Goku didn’t listen to Roshi and chased after Tambourine after he killed Krillin, knowing nothing about his enemy’s strengths and techniques he was just consumed by rage. As an adult with more experience and maturity, Goku restrained his son after Cell seemingly killed Piccolo and never made any rash actions in front of Cell even when he thought Piccolo was dead. Even the way Goku didn’t fully succumb to the Super Saiyan influence against Frieza’s shows his growth in self control. In the anime when Goku first became a Super Saiyan, Roshi talks about how Goku is undergoing a change and it will be up to him if he remains who he is, and in the end Goku never lets anger consume him and instead wants his fight with Frieza to be another proving ground for him instead of a death match. He’s not a savage Saiyan, he’s a martial artist. He even spares Frieza numerous times to drive the point home that this is just a fight not an execution. And what does he do next saga? He makes the Super Saiyan form his own, mastering it to be a form not based on rage and aggression but efficiency and control. Martial arts is all about self control and it’s that aspect of Goku and seeing him get better at that as he ages that makes him such an inspirational character.
@GreatSageGoku
@GreatSageGoku 10 ай бұрын
IIRC, I believe it was also due to Android 8 back in Muscle Tower when he was taught to spare them, even if they deserved it. Goku was about to kill General White if it wasn't for No. 8 holding back his fist. This is why he spared the lives of his enemies like Piccolo or Vegeta who'd later become allies under different circumstances. He does grow as the adventure goes on.
@artophile7777
@artophile7777 10 ай бұрын
I'm interested in your take on GT Goku.
@alexzero3736
@alexzero3736 10 ай бұрын
Hmm, it just got me: Tien and Piccolo went very similar path. They both recognized Goku as equal opponent, and both got change in heart. Although with Piccolo it happen also during training with Gohan, who recognized Piccolo as close person.
@impackmusiq5236
@impackmusiq5236 10 ай бұрын
The fact that z and gt goku feels more mature than super goku
@Jetblast01
@Jetblast01 10 ай бұрын
As messy GT was, they at least seemed to understand Goku's character and how he was a veteran.
@impackmusiq5236
@impackmusiq5236 10 ай бұрын
Goku always felt like a hero in my opinion
@lonewolfnomadic3403
@lonewolfnomadic3403 10 ай бұрын
in super He is a clown
@impackmusiq5236
@impackmusiq5236 10 ай бұрын
@@lonewolfnomadic3403 fax
@DBZBT4Gameplay
@DBZBT4Gameplay 10 ай бұрын
​@@lonewolfnomadic3403 Smh, I guess you only watched the American dub where they completely changed his entire personality to appeal to America audiences DBS Goku is written exactly like Japanese Z Goku, watch the original sub kid
@lordnikitaxd
@lordnikitaxd 10 ай бұрын
Yeah, no. Watched the original and can confirm that dbz goku is nothing like dbs goku.
@DBZBT4Gameplay
@DBZBT4Gameplay 10 ай бұрын
@@lordnikitaxd you watched the Dub 🤡
@melissacross5525
@melissacross5525 9 ай бұрын
Z is PEAK. Period. Not a single lie was detected as far as what they did to Goku in Super. The regression is deplorable! As far as Abridged, it can't truly be appreciated nor will one get the subtle and not so subtle jokes unless you've watched the official release prior.
@RecardoRemekie-wk4qq
@RecardoRemekie-wk4qq 10 ай бұрын
I understand what you mean when I was a kid watching dragon Ball z man it was fun now I'm 18 years old ohmygod Vegeta's my favorite character and that is why I'm still here to this day
@marcusmjx740
@marcusmjx740 10 ай бұрын
In the cell saga, when everyone got thrashed by the androids, after Goku woke up from his heart disease, it was really assuring that he was all calm when he instant transmitted to the plane and talked to the other fighters, and had plans on what to do, ie. Get all 4 saiyans to train in the time chamber. You knew he was always one step ahead and would save the day
@alexzero3736
@alexzero3736 10 ай бұрын
I m taking Gohan. Bye!
@deletoblue1436
@deletoblue1436 10 ай бұрын
I couldn't agree more
@espacolunatico6975
@espacolunatico6975 10 ай бұрын
Goku is such a great protagonist in the original manga
@lsixty30
@lsixty30 10 ай бұрын
idk why but DBZ and "Him" jokes go so well together
@Nappr
@Nappr 10 ай бұрын
Thank you for being the voice of Z fans, you are Goku with the spirit bomb and we are raising our arms to you to send our energy, our contribution! Do it!
@ShockToYoSystem
@ShockToYoSystem 10 ай бұрын
Factsss well said🗣💯⚡️
@BC21beats
@BC21beats 10 ай бұрын
Toriyama is wrong about his own character. He might of intended for him to be portrayed a certain way but the fact is he was a hero in original z and helped push dbz to global recognition
@moose9211
@moose9211 Ай бұрын
Dragon ball super isn’t canon. Never happened. Its the voices in our heads
@sajiste
@sajiste 9 ай бұрын
Yeah goku in Z always meant business in retrospect. He knew how to enjoy his life and protect what he loves in a sophisticated level for sure.
@dekaritheprofessor2631
@dekaritheprofessor2631 10 ай бұрын
Honestly Z Goku is definitely Peak Goku! He's the Goku I respect A LOT as he was not an Awesome Hero to me but also one of my fictional role models like Naruto,Spider-Man,and a few others❤❤ He also inspired me to get into Better shape just like Tien 🥰🔥🔥
@CommanderButter
@CommanderButter 10 ай бұрын
11:24 the creators of DBZA would 100% agree with you here
@DonMoody4
@DonMoody4 10 ай бұрын
Z Goku Squad Here💪🏾💪🏾 always show up on time ✅
@divineeternity7268
@divineeternity7268 10 ай бұрын
@ Saiyan Scholar You said canon doesn't matter. You just became the G.O.A.T. my guy. Canon is easily topped by all the other works. People are delusional.😁💪💯
@1346528000
@1346528000 10 ай бұрын
Z Goku was awesome, he's like a wise sage during the namek and cell sagas, even the Buu saga made Goku like a divine spirit, guiding the path of the living (for most of the saga at least). Now in Super he's mostly a buffon, he does have it's moments of his old self, but he's mostly a fool, it's really depressing.
@Anamnesis-Apotheosis89
@Anamnesis-Apotheosis89 10 ай бұрын
I read HIM, as His Infernal Majesty.
@alexzero3736
@alexzero3736 10 ай бұрын
*Infinite Majesty
@Zerum69
@Zerum69 10 ай бұрын
truth to be told, Toriyama is a bad writter who got lucky, the Dragonball and Dragonball Z we all fell in love with was Toriyama's multiple Editors fixing Toriyama's short commings and keeping the story and the characters on the right track The more freedom you give Toriyama the worse his writting, simple as that
@tristansmith1122
@tristansmith1122 10 ай бұрын
Yknow, none of this would’ve been a problem if we had let Akira Toriyama give Gohan the spot light back in the day. We would have been able to see natural progression through him to keep the story going, and enjoy Goku as he became a wiser mentor for developing characters.
@ThomasTenma
@ThomasTenma 10 ай бұрын
you're the type of fan who loves or can just enjoy all aspects of a franchise. I am the same and we need more people like you who can take all this stuff in and enjoy it for what it is without being nit too picky
@talharahman2922
@talharahman2922 9 ай бұрын
I have immense respect for you after I went through the entire video. A lot of people fail to realize how Goku is supposed to be. Goku from DBZ felt more authentic and it sticks throughout the whole series.
@Jetblast01
@Jetblast01 10 ай бұрын
GT Goku felt like a proper continuation of his character and maturity as a martial artist. Super's was a regression...back to Kid Goku.
@djantouahmed7319
@djantouahmed7319 9 ай бұрын
And I find it ironic that gt Goku was the one turned into a kid, but was the most mature.
@mcspartan1227
@mcspartan1227 10 ай бұрын
Well said. Thank you. The only thing you missed is something I think i’ll make a video about one day soon. -peace
@zineprixmenu4373
@zineprixmenu4373 10 ай бұрын
hot take idc what people say i prefer the dub superman goku to the sub goku
@blue-12316
@blue-12316 10 ай бұрын
💯
@impackmusiq5236
@impackmusiq5236 10 ай бұрын
Faxxxxxx
@DiamondBlade11
@DiamondBlade11 10 ай бұрын
Same same same this 100x this
@Logan_97
@Logan_97 5 ай бұрын
His Japanese voice gives me a heachache, but the lines are better in the original. If you understand, consider the German dub. Gokus original voice actor in Z is an absolute legend in Germany.
@Lowclasswarrior778
@Lowclasswarrior778 Ай бұрын
Funi Goku was goated. He was the Goku I looked up too, don’t care if it wasn’t his original interpretation
@shiestydon
@shiestydon 10 ай бұрын
Watching this made me realize that Goten and Trunks would have killed it as protagonists for Super.
@alexzero3736
@alexzero3736 10 ай бұрын
? What they ever do in Super?
@DarkShadow-pe6ud
@DarkShadow-pe6ud 10 ай бұрын
The reason why DBZ was so beloved wasn't just because of Akira Toriyama, it was a team effort and his former editors Kazuhiko Torishima, Yū Kondō and the head of the anime production Takao Koyama contributed a lot to the success of the franchise, specially Koyama, he was a good leader and the glue that kept the things running, he also contributed alot into developing who Goku is as a character, Toriyama is a genius but his ideas are to crazy for his own good and he also changes his mind a lot, he works best with a team to giving him advice and keep things consistent, like the fact that he clearly created Goku to be a hero, and it's even stated in the manga, but now he changed his mind and wants Goku to be more of an anti-hero and that's one of the reasons why DBS wasn't as successful as DB and DBZ, the development team lacked a good leadership, they just followed Toriyama's vague instructions without any direction, one of the biggest reasons why DBGT failed wasn't because they turned Goku into a kid but because they made him dumb, and this time they committed the same mistake except worse because Goku is an adult this time, they didn't learned anything from their past mistakes, they needed a good leader like Koyama to make sure the team was on board of they same boat and to keep things consistent.
@michaelpeak2438
@michaelpeak2438 9 ай бұрын
Damn this is a dope comment. Couldn’t agree more with everything said here.
@MinhLe19303
@MinhLe19303 9 ай бұрын
That's what I think too. Most of the time in Z portion, it was the editor that helped Toriyama wrote coherent and meaningful story and well-written likable characters. Buu Saga is literally a result of Toriyama written a DBZ story on his own and has a lot of flaws. DBGT failed mainly because of franchise fatigue, not because of flawed story and characters, because despite the least popular series, GT is well-liked in Japan.
@DarkShadow-pe6ud
@DarkShadow-pe6ud 9 ай бұрын
@@michaelpeak2438 thanks
@DarkShadow-pe6ud
@DarkShadow-pe6ud 9 ай бұрын
@@MinhLe19303 Indeed, Toriyama works best with an editor Buu saga was not bad but had alot going on without any explanation, and many flaws. GT was indeed more popular in Japan than in the west but they don't care too much about canon, fatigue was one of the main factors but Goku's characters regression didn't help any better, and the quality of the series wasn't as good as it used to be, fatigue only happens when sometimes starts to lose quality, look at One Piece, it's over 1000 episodes and there aren't any signs of fatigue.
@MinhLe19303
@MinhLe19303 9 ай бұрын
@@DarkShadow-pe6ud Hmm, you're not wrong. I'm not sure if Goku's characterization was a problem. Japanese fans don't seem to care about Goku's idiotic nature, and while I do think they upped his childishness and goofyness in GT, at the same time, they also increase his seriousness and heroism like how they did in old movies and fillers, so I wouldn't call it a straight resgression.
@JustJohnRCF
@JustJohnRCF 10 ай бұрын
Goku isn’t a good father, he’s a great one. One of the best written fathers I personally know.
@esmineldraaybara6975
@esmineldraaybara6975 10 ай бұрын
I believe one of the reasons Super Goku does not carry the same weight on screen is because of the uncertainty he has when on screen. Besides the ToP, Super is just a losing streak for him. He loses to Beerus, loses to Sorbet (wins only because of Whis' magic), loses to Hit, loses to Goku Black and Zamasu, twice, and also loses to Fused Zamasu. Why would he be 'Him' if he barely ever wins?
@esmineldraaybara6975
@esmineldraaybara6975 10 ай бұрын
In contrast, in Z, Goku loses to Raditz but wins against Nappa and Vegeta. Loses to Ginyu but wins against Frieza. For every one fight he loses, he wins a much more important one. His losses are used to set up the strength of the enemy and to show his progression, how he is later able to overcome even stronger foes. The longest losing streak for Goku in Z is in the Cell Saga where he loses to 19 and Cell. This is because the story was supposed to move onto Gohan now.
@asvarien
@asvarien 10 ай бұрын
Good point!
@jacobgardner3101
@jacobgardner3101 10 ай бұрын
Super is so poorly written you would think goku isn’t even needed for the story. At the end of the day goku is the main character and it’s bullshit how they have treated him in super
@alexzero3736
@alexzero3736 10 ай бұрын
​@@esmineldraaybara6975well, maybe. But Z Goku would do all that different... He always looking for solution against stronger enemy. What S Goku does after losing to Black first time? He simply rushes back into the future to fight him again, Brilliant idea, just brilliant.
@impackmusiq5236
@impackmusiq5236 10 ай бұрын
Ppl saying goku hero speech didn't fit his character is totally bs goku literally speard all the ginyu force members he didn't want to kill them even tho he has the power to one shot them goku is not a killer he could've killed frieza also but spear him
@alexzero3736
@alexzero3736 10 ай бұрын
Actually, it was American dub BS. Original dialogue between Goku and Freeza was very different. In Japanese version Goku still a Goku even in SSJ form.
@impackmusiq5236
@impackmusiq5236 10 ай бұрын
@@alexzero3736 we don't we love it
@VanguardRaven
@VanguardRaven 10 ай бұрын
I sometimes feel like DBSuper Goku was written to be more like T4S Goku. I like T4S Goku, but only within the context of T4S. It doesn't work in canon Dragon Ball.
@asvarien
@asvarien 10 ай бұрын
That's a good point, Super Goku does seem like an immature child who can't function as an adult and just wants to fight strong people and doesn't care about the concequences for the people around him. I mean he put the entire multiverse at risk so he could have a tournament!
@shadowspringtrap3122
@shadowspringtrap3122 10 ай бұрын
​@asvarien Except he gave Universes fighting chance to not be erased so it doesn't seem so bad decision.
@asvarien
@asvarien 10 ай бұрын
​@@shadowspringtrap3122 Goku had no say in that, other than he gave Xeno (or more likely the grand priest) the idea. Goku had no regard for the possible concequences when he pushed Xeno for the tournament. He acted selfishly and foolishly. It just happened to all turn out right for him, which more down to poor writing than anything else.
@chaoticdragons9990
@chaoticdragons9990 10 ай бұрын
This video explains perfectly why I play DBZ kakarot and sdbh on switch, I feel the same way about some of Sonic's character as well.
@kaistudios5536
@kaistudios5536 10 ай бұрын
*HELL YEAH A 30 MINUTE VIDEO FROM YOU!* _THIS IS HAPPENING!_
@imsoironik
@imsoironik 10 ай бұрын
Another amazing video as always 🗣️
@DBZ_AnimeWORLD
@DBZ_AnimeWORLD 10 ай бұрын
Beerus would never disrespect Dbz Goku. But i don’t think Zeno would like him as much lol
@alexzero3736
@alexzero3736 10 ай бұрын
Hmm, so Beerus could actually went to the Future and destroy Zamasu himself? If it was Z Goku.
@aster4jaden
@aster4jaden 10 ай бұрын
This is so good, i'm definitely going to rewatch DBZ.
@cloudyfoam
@cloudyfoam 10 ай бұрын
Z Goku is the REAL Goku. Writing, Portrayal, personality is exactly what Goku is. He will always be the best variation and nothing will change that, not GT Goku
@SaiyanScholar
@SaiyanScholar 10 ай бұрын
GT Goku is an extension of Z Goku as it's part of the same Anime Continuity. He changed after 97.
@cloudyfoam
@cloudyfoam 10 ай бұрын
​ @SaiyanScholar Yeah, I totally get where you are coming from, but this is subjective basically
@blue-12316
@blue-12316 10 ай бұрын
​@SaiyanScholar yes 5 years after z
@justinarzola4584
@justinarzola4584 10 ай бұрын
Agreed.
@takeruneverborn4740
@takeruneverborn4740 10 ай бұрын
​@@SaiyanScholarthank you for this video Goku is a Martial Arts Master who has some comedic moments espically during his beginning bout with FRIEZA but he quickly got serious when FRIEZA reveals he not even at 50% power yet and he had to pull out all the stops then eventually achieving Super Saiyan the Legendary Transformation of his True Heritage
@valmid5069
@valmid5069 10 ай бұрын
Cant wait for more great content!
@michaelmohler5409
@michaelmohler5409 10 ай бұрын
It's the producers fault. Unfortunately this isn't made for us. It's kids who play with the toys
@kindasomeviews
@kindasomeviews 10 ай бұрын
I always love seeing him training then display how wise he is while fighting and even afterwards. The times where he messes up on small things reminds me of my clumsiness. It all makes me wanna train and I've been into martial arts since I was a kid cuz of him
@jacobgardner3101
@jacobgardner3101 10 ай бұрын
I’ve been watching dbz and I just got to the part where goku sacrificed himself against cell and man I miss the old goku. He was more mature at the beginning of z than he is now in super.
@muffinfighter3680
@muffinfighter3680 10 ай бұрын
Completely agree! Amazing video!
@edwardjones1482
@edwardjones1482 10 ай бұрын
You were spot on with your dbz abridged point on fans love to bring dbza goku to main dbz goku
@UnifiedEntity
@UnifiedEntity 10 ай бұрын
I love how people use nostalgia when we look upon Goku in Z very positively while Super we look at him negatively. As I re-read/rewatch the series and sat down to really get a grasp of the situations, conversations and actions from an objective view, i learned a few things. Goku still has his flaws, moments of selfishness......but be it whatever dub you watched, Goku STILL cared for people, WOULD choose the more logical routes than just to get a fight in, learns from his mistakes, PLANS ahead, very insightful, not cocky about his own power and gains a level of maturity I dont see in Super. For those who are quick to use nostalgia as a means to bash Z Goku, Im telling you to turn off your recency bias and look at Super Goku for what he is in every situation INCLUDING fighting. Because he does not stack up the way Z Goku or even GT Goku does. Mind you, it goes to show that despite how much people like myself did not like GT Growing up, Gokus character personality and execution was NOT a problem
@ReeceHoward06
@ReeceHoward06 9 ай бұрын
To make it worse, he loses a LOT of his fighting genius, ESPECIALLY in the manga. I emphasize manga, because he literally has the same stamina issues in every form he gains and has yet to rectify that issue, whereas he more or less did rectify that in the anime to a degree where he can use Kaioken freely by the time of the ToP.
@beatlecristian
@beatlecristian 10 ай бұрын
Goku is also emotionally intelligent as he sensed something was troubling Tapion.
@user-mb4pd4ou5i
@user-mb4pd4ou5i 10 ай бұрын
Enjoyed this video I love dragon ball franchise experts and their opinions no matter the difference I do respect each dragon ball franchise KZfaqr
@MrMartellSincere
@MrMartellSincere 10 ай бұрын
Your content is getting better and better
@jonathandoe2316
@jonathandoe2316 10 ай бұрын
I never thought about, but movie Goku is a whole different breed.
@KennyyD
@KennyyD 10 ай бұрын
That was one of the smoothest ad transitions I've ever seen. Z Goku is indeed himothy.
@alanemocab3465
@alanemocab3465 10 ай бұрын
Damn straight!!!
@supradeepdam3066
@supradeepdam3066 10 ай бұрын
I love you man ❤
@YoToffles
@YoToffles 10 ай бұрын
Congratulations on the sponsor my man
@asvarien
@asvarien 10 ай бұрын
Z Goku seems more grown up, more mature and more intelligent. Super Goku has regressed in both maturity and intellect, Super Goku is an overgrown child who just wants to fight anyone strong and damn the concequences for anyone around him.
@sixstringsher
@sixstringsher 3 ай бұрын
Love all your Goku videos!
@devilshooter126m8
@devilshooter126m8 10 ай бұрын
Great video Super Goku is Stereotype Goku thats all.
@michaelpeak2438
@michaelpeak2438 10 ай бұрын
Toriyama’s Goku is one of the most influential characters in my life without a doubt. The way he’s portrayed in DB/Z/Movies is just so inspirational, stylish, and interesting. I’ll forever regard him highly as a character because of this.
@ShockToYoSystem
@ShockToYoSystem 10 ай бұрын
Well Said Scholar🗣💯💯💯⚡️ Tfs plays a huge role aswell indeed
@BiggiestayHoopin23
@BiggiestayHoopin23 10 ай бұрын
Great video
@impackmusiq5236
@impackmusiq5236 10 ай бұрын
One of the reason why I love kid goku is because he was fvcking alone with no family and goku never complain about it he didn't let anything brother him and you see when he has a family he change and love his family
@KnucklesEmerald-wj9vo
@KnucklesEmerald-wj9vo 10 ай бұрын
nah Goku stayed dead after the Cell Saga even though he could've gotten wished back and didnt talk to his family or newborn son for 7 years lmao he's horrible
@alexzero3736
@alexzero3736 10 ай бұрын
​​@@KnucklesEmerald-wj9voit's not characters fault that Author changed plans. Instead of passing the towel to new generation Goku and Vegeta just returned for disgraceful money grab.
@mattbrittain2180
@mattbrittain2180 10 ай бұрын
Good video! Love your longer videos!
@zackwestrules
@zackwestrules 9 ай бұрын
Well something to think about, it took Goku 18 years of insane training, not only on earth but with a kai after death, to hit 9000 power level at base form. Now it’s millions in any instant. There’s no struggle any more.
@sun-noir
@sun-noir 10 ай бұрын
In Dragonball Super Goku's strength comes from hair dyes.
@NathanielMDwastaken
@NathanielMDwastaken 10 ай бұрын
Keep it up, I'm still watching, wait, am I just saying the same stuff over and over again?
@ferrucciocaracciuolo8139
@ferrucciocaracciuolo8139 10 ай бұрын
A video released During my Birthday i am lucky.
@SaiyanScholar
@SaiyanScholar 10 ай бұрын
Happy Birthday!
@bprangerz5088
@bprangerz5088 10 ай бұрын
Thank you
@marioandultrachap
@marioandultrachap 10 ай бұрын
Its because super serverly regressed Goku's character. Thats why. People who say "Goku had no character progression" is following themselves. You can see the maturity of Goku from OG dragonball to GT. As with Super it just goes backwards getting basically kid Goku in Z Goku's body. Yes Goku was always a goof ball and likes kid around but he knew when to kid around he knew when to get serious as time progressed but not in Super.
@Meatslap
@Meatslap 10 ай бұрын
the pictures of the super saiyans from the cell saga goes hard
@DionteHelm
@DionteHelm 10 ай бұрын
Fire content 🔥
@sonic.fan5537
@sonic.fan5537 9 ай бұрын
Back in Z, that wasn't Goku, that was himarrot
@jonathanluzgonzalez7510
@jonathanluzgonzalez7510 10 ай бұрын
I love this video
@jamelleartis9172
@jamelleartis9172 10 ай бұрын
Saiyan Scholar, Since This Was Another Analysis Topic On Our Favorite Saiyan Hero Son Goku / Kakarot, He Still Be My Favorite Outta Each Z Warrior Characters &, He Is Probably Not A, Better Father Like, Vegeta But, Goku Sacrifice Himself For, Gohan's Future He Did Care Always Deep Down
@MinhLe19303
@MinhLe19303 10 ай бұрын
5:55 Nope, I wouldn't call him like that in DBS manga Goku. He maybe wiser on the surface, but his arrogant, insenstivity, naivity and the overall unseriousness are worse compare to the anime. Even if there're glimpse of mature decisions here and there, they happened far and few between that just jarring compared to how he act usually.
@ReeceHoward06
@ReeceHoward06 9 ай бұрын
Exactly this.
@donathan2933
@donathan2933 10 ай бұрын
As much as I like Super, my only real problem is how dumb they made Goku. Z was Goku at his best
@RAZOR500
@RAZOR500 10 ай бұрын
Im 17 and I grew up watching toonami with my dad and I was shocked when I saw how different he was in super compared to Z
@ericathompsen8110
@ericathompsen8110 10 ай бұрын
I love the Goku character and it always makes me a little sad to see what they turned him into from dragon ball to dragon ball z he was epic and amazing for sure he was the man who got things done but in dragon ball super he feels like a different person and character all together and there is parts of super I love but it isn't the same when I think back about z Goku or even dragon ball Goku I really enjoyed your video awesome and epic as always thank you so much for making it ❤️👍
@theodoresherman5707
@theodoresherman5707 10 ай бұрын
I mean Z Goku definitely has a more mature attitude than in Super
@rsnmarkmark14
@rsnmarkmark14 10 ай бұрын
I think they can salvage gokus character and have someone like korin mention gokus forgot alot due years of brain truama
@alphacide_2857
@alphacide_2857 9 ай бұрын
The Raid add snuck up on me, ngl. Good strat 10/10 bag is acquired
@Irrational_Pie
@Irrational_Pie 10 ай бұрын
I simply don’t acknowledge Super as a legitimate continuation of the story.
@yuzuki2385
@yuzuki2385 10 ай бұрын
Z goku is a fucking savage.
@bradjeffords4451
@bradjeffords4451 10 ай бұрын
You right about movie Goku. That dude just showin up is a big deal.
@zackysomerset419
@zackysomerset419 9 ай бұрын
Dragon Ball Z Goku Is The Goat.😎👍
@theemeraldninja5038
@theemeraldninja5038 10 ай бұрын
People "proving" DBZ Goku's "stupidity" in a nutshell: They can't tell the difference between naivety and stupidity, and they like to scroll past all of the reasons for Goku's questionable choices
@muffinfighter3680
@muffinfighter3680 10 ай бұрын
I honestly think they are gaslightibg themselves lmao
@grasshopper-ln9us
@grasshopper-ln9us 10 ай бұрын
Always did love watching that dbz budakai 3 intro Ahh Nostalgia
@dpak8418
@dpak8418 9 ай бұрын
Reminded me the love and passion for the character of goku , which was lost recently due to his unfortunate goofy-tiation
@alexandern3710
@alexandern3710 10 ай бұрын
I completely agree with this whole heartedlty
@justoneherofortheworld667
@justoneherofortheworld667 10 ай бұрын
Goku was right because he is light.
@JarlQboyq
@JarlQboyq 10 ай бұрын
Looking back on it I really believe they should've just went all in and had a teenager protagonist like the wanted from SSG. We all know that's what they wanted, but if Goku isn't the MC, then nobody would care that much, and it won't sell toys.
@jenpachi2408
@jenpachi2408 9 ай бұрын
To be fair during the tournament of power Goku had some z esque moments especially during the Jiren fight
@user-uh1rk6cn7x
@user-uh1rk6cn7x 3 ай бұрын
OVER 9000% RIGHT!!!
@Letsdo_Youtube
@Letsdo_Youtube 9 ай бұрын
Honestly! Goku in DBS is like a kid or an amateur! I would have to say that Goku in DB GT was better as we can clearly see him, mature even as a kid. This is visible all the time.
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