Sam Addresses Ana Kasparian's Tweet

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A listener calls in to discuss Ana Kasparian's tweet.
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Hey, this is John. I'm calling from Indiana. John from Indiana. What's on your mind? well hey, I just wanted to say first off I'm a big fan. I've been listening to you guys for a couple years now. and I really appreciate listening in on news commentary that doesn't make me feel hopeless. Doesn’t it make you feel like what? Hopeless. Oh, hopeless. All right. Well, we do our best. Yeah. But I wanted to call and I'm trying to word this without being too inflammatory. I wanted to call about Ana Kasparian because I feel like she is not getting the right kind of attention. And so and I know you were gone yesterday Sam. Yeah, I think. All right, I think I did see that I commented on this yesterday. Yeah yeah, that's right.And I know she's a friend of the show and I know that you know her and Emma are personal friends. And so you know I I I don't think that you know you need to completely lambast someone. But I just don't know. I felt like for instance the clipping of that with the title that she's not anti-trans was not necessarily the right thing to me, it just seems kind of tone-deaf. I guess the problem I had was that a tweet like that in and of itself wasn't great. But I think the bigger context was the reply it got very combative and a lot of Nazis popped in agreeing with her. Ben Shapiro's retweeting. Her Kari Lake popping in saying hey a broken clock. And you know I just I and some of the replies from her I'll be honest were indistinguishable from something that you know JK Rowling would say. Within the context of her larger commentary on trans people, I don't think that's the same fair critique to put her in the same boat as JK Rowling. And as you can have I think quibbles with the way the video is titled. I didn't even know that was getting clipped. And I and I don't have control over any titling. So but the substance of what I said is that it's not anything about any one person that's more of like a critique of like you know just show formatting. yeah well, let me alright let me since Emma addressed this yesterday let me comment on it. And I will say this. I mean in terms of Justin I don't want to spend too much time because this is just sort of a process thing about the titling and this and that. We when the way that we do this show is we do the show. And then another person Clips the show. Now there's an occasion I'll say like oh somebody really wanted this phone call of this and that and I'll send a message. But part of the reason why we do that is that I don't want what we do on the show to be dictated to how I think it's going to do on KZfaq. That you know the way that I can insulate the show from like sort of chasing clicks. That's the way I do it. I do think that the guy who Clips the show sometimes likes it's his job to sort of get clip clicks. And so he may do that in different ways. So but that's a slide. That's a second-order thing. Here's my feeling. And I will also say I don't. I didn't read into the whole thread of that because I was literally constantly moving yesterday. But look I don't I don't have any reason to believe based on her commentary in the past that Ana is anti-trans. But this tweeting out something like that in my estimation is the Tweet itself the Act and the tweet in this context right is and is an anti-trans act. I just think it is. yeah. because you know in context it is everything in this case. Yeah. You know one of the issues I had with Sam Harris back in the oughts was that right amid a debate in this country about the torture he writes up a thing in Huffington Post which is basically the equivalent of Twitter. Maybe bigger than Twitter in terms of like you know broadcasting this stuff. You know a piece that he titled in defense of torture.

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@user-wi3yx3gy2o Жыл бұрын

It blows my mind that she has vocally and angrily criticized Conservatives for saying the exact same thing she tweeted, seemingly because she was angry at them for being her political enemies, not for holding that view.

@dariusiamkingervin4107 9 ай бұрын

It blows my mind that trans ppl cry about misgendering ppl but have no problem re-gendering non trans ppl. Y’all started calling us cis man cis woman birthing ppl and the list goes on and on. It’s not enough for us to respect your lifestyle and how you choose to live life we have to conform to any and every damn nutter butter shit y’all say and we have had enough. You wanna be called trans woman or man, cool. We want to be referred to as man or woman with no damn hyphenations

@CarterM54 9 ай бұрын

You need to realize that Ana has been evolving and actually become much more rational as she has come to understand the demented positions and the real-world consequences of those positions. She is growing tremendously as a person and a thinker.

@user-wi3yx3gy2o 9 ай бұрын

@@CarterM54 No she is wrong. Conservative media routinely put up straw men which they motte and bailey as the real world and then knock them down, to justify their true abhorrent goals. They pretend there is an end to this. There us not. They will use the fiction of things that seem as if they should be shocking but aren’t, if you actually understand the context, or things that aren’t even happening, to justify things like not letting trans pre-teen and teens take puberty blockers until they figure things out one way or the other (which is an extremely effective and safe risk and harm mitigating intervention routinely used in precocious puberty, which is quite analogous to going through puberty before you are ready to sort out your gender identity or if you have a cross sex gender identity). They will pretend that trans women with years on testosterone -blocking HRT are significantly advantaged by their hormones before medically transitioning when the advantages, such that they are, are within the relatively common range of female variation, like height. My wife is 6 feet and cis. Is she, or someone with muscle mass like Selena Williams dis-advantaged in tennis compared to a short slighter build trans woman? Their fixes aren’t fixes either. They hurt people for little or no advantage in accomplishing anything besides hurting people. Kicking a trans girl off a middle school team she started? Making people use make bathrooms when they look like women? Trying to stop doctors hospitals and regulators from saying phrases like “birthing person” because it might hurt the feelings of sone cis woman who heard about it on conservative media? We’re worried about questionable queer sexuality and gender themed books (often accidentally) on the shelf of public and high-school libraries when porn is 1-2 clicks from any Google search result for “porn” and large fractions of kids are being sexually abused or raped by other teens? What are we doing?

@user-wi3yx3gy2o 9 ай бұрын

@@CarterM54 We should treat all trans people or people who think they might be trans of any age the same way we might if we knew they had an intersex condition like xy female or xx male, simply because we done understand why people might be trans.

@CarterM54 7 ай бұрын

@@user-wi3yx3gy2o Nice try, but given that a TINY percentage of humans of either the male of female variety experience that genetic disorder, most should be treated - with sympathy - as any other psychological disorder. For example, someone suffering from anorexia should not be treated as actually being fat and put on diet or medications that would cause even further harm or, God forbid, be given gastro bypass surgery to "affirm" her "identity".

@dankdreamz Жыл бұрын

I'm so confused who's even using that language in their everyday lives. I'm a transgender woman and the only time I have ever heard that type of language was when I was in a transgender support group and we were being inclusive of trans men in non-binary individuals who happen to be AFAB. As far as I'm aware it is only used when talking about specific issues where the assigned gender at birth is relevant. I personally don't use the language because I find it to be reductive and can see how it would be interpreted as offensive to not only cisgender people but also the people being referred to since they are being broken down to their most basic parts that they tend to not want to associate with. Sorry, everything relating to transgender people is a bit of a sticky wicket and it's quite easy to assume you're being a ally and not recognized when you are failing.

@MingWLee Жыл бұрын

On the bright side, incidents like this is actually good for anyone who is or learning to be inclusive, the reason like you said that those words aren't use often so does come ppl misuse them time after time. I believe you may have already heard about ppl saying this feels like walking in the minefield. That being said, like Emma and Sam mentioned, being as a journalist on a social media platform, they must be extra aware of how their words are being spoken because their words has way more weight than average ppl like us. Then it all comes down to track records which will be obvious imo. Also I would stress that bad actors across the board are now out fanning the inflammatory towards her, we should not affected by those narrative which will divide us in any ways.

@deborahlukovich2193 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this.

@kennybachman35 Жыл бұрын

Have you figured out that it’s not our job to define you, and also that it’s not “phobic” if straight people do not wish to partake in your culture? Because that’s where i’m seeing the disconnect. It’s fine, you guys can be whatever you want to be (or are), and nobody should abuse you for that. But we’re gonna stay exactly who we are as well. And i’m saying this as an ally.

@irishdc9523 Жыл бұрын

Barely anyone does. It's only used in academic or medical contexts, but hardly anyone actually uses it in daily life

@Treebeard1992 Жыл бұрын

It's just something weirdos on twitter say. Real people don't talk like that.

@SpoonLady Жыл бұрын

I wonder if you're ever gonna talk about Anna's anti-homeless advocasy....

@echolocationn Жыл бұрын

Thanks for proving that you've literally not watched a single episode of TYT.

@SpoonLady Жыл бұрын

@@echolocationn those clips aren't hard to find. Even a good solid handflul of left leaning podcasts have talked about her anti-homeless rants, including Citations Needed. She's gross.

@musicalseo4553 Жыл бұрын

her anti-homeless stuff is why I quit watching.

@SpoonLady Жыл бұрын

@@musicalseo4553 That one where shes's talking about forcing homeless people into shelters even if they don't want to go? Yeah that was the icing for me.

@echolocationn Жыл бұрын

@@SpoonLady Which is why I know that you are lying. She is NOT against the homeless. She is against the people buying up real estate for investment purposes, and the CA government not building affordable housing for the homeless. Keep up.

@7srchoed Жыл бұрын

When I saw this conversation in The Left Wing Mafia, the very first thing I thought about was this Sam Harris example that Seder talks about.

@cjr21 Жыл бұрын

that original tweet could have been her own opinion of an encounter. Her replies to people are suspicious to say the least. If it was an encounter she had, she would quickly own up to in the replies bc she would realize what she may have done. Here, she doubled and tripled down on it like people are shouting that to her in person at Starbucks. Like very Kerry Lake type of manufactured outrage.

@blackpilleddadli Жыл бұрын

No one calls anyone a "birthing person" in random conversation. That's simply not how everyday conversations work. Even if she had claimed that this is what had caused her to post that tweet I still wouldn't believe her unless she could prove it. She most likely read an article where "birthing person" was used and actually made sense in the context of the article, then she decided to take offence to it and go to twitter to make it trans people's problem

@cjr21 Жыл бұрын

@@blackpilleddadli yup

@gaybatgosqueak Жыл бұрын

Yeah it's doubling down that's really concerning. I can believe that Ana got caught up in a conservative narrative that she thinks is real and is upset by it. But so many people were explaining to her why her tweet was problematic and she just ignored it.

@Hieiman Жыл бұрын

@@gaybatgosqueak even now she hasn't responded to the crux of the issue with her tweet... Her defense is still illogical and dumb af.

@nejolo9563 Жыл бұрын

Why are people inventing an imaginary encounter Ana K had with a street medic? Would anybody else be given the benefit of doubt. I guess we have another cop out option if we mess up. I’m sure Ana is grateful for that.

@QuantumTelephone Жыл бұрын

Sam is so good at being blunt but never being abrasive. Good communicator

@mwmulv 11 ай бұрын

Totally agree

@conartisthill Жыл бұрын

Matt Binder, Olayemi and the gang also had a great discussion about this on The Leftist Mafia this week. My problem is that Ana and also Cenk seem to be doubling down or really not addressing the heart of the issue. I have trans male relatives and it seems that a major progressive host wont even acknowledge the problems with that stance and how real people were hurt by it. And her past of being a warrior for the LGBTQ community actually makes it worse in my opinion so mentioning her history makes it look way worse

@TheFamousMockingbird Жыл бұрын

ana has had a shift in her politics over the last three or so years and is becoming much more conservative. she literally proposed criminalizing homelessness and jailing homeless people back in 2021. She defended the racist LA city council member in decemeber 2022, shes a huge NIMBY. TYT is performative and have very little in the way of constructive critique

@anti-classist Жыл бұрын

@TheFamousMockingbird she has always been a classist... most progressives are... being better than conservatives isn't that big a deal.. but most libs and progressives are only marginally better... they still aren't for the worker really.... just to the extent that it helps themselves.

@chinoobi2512 Жыл бұрын

This is literally not true, both have addressed the issue this past week.

@chinoobi2512 Жыл бұрын

@@anti-classist no she hasn’t

@chinoobi2512 Жыл бұрын

@@anti-classist no she hasn’t

@thegrandwombat8797 Жыл бұрын

Genuinely not sure why she even felt the need to say anything in the first place, it's like if I saw an article about people under the age of 30 and responded "I have a name, you know." It's no different than people complaining about instructions changing so that they don't refer to everyone as "he" anymore.

@IvanTheDarkAngel Жыл бұрын

Because there is already a word for "uterus havers" and "chest feeders" and she was right to be annoyed. I know it may be difficult for you but try to remember what that word is.

@thegrandwombat8797 Жыл бұрын

@@IvanTheDarkAngel Yes I know you don't think trans men are men, and that only women can have a uterus, the rest of us would rather be correct. We should say women when referring to women, and when we're talking about a broader group that many but not all women are part of and that many people who are not women are also part of, we should use terminology that describes them instead of going out of our way to be wrong. Ana agrees a lot more with me than with you here, by the way.

@glich86 Жыл бұрын

@slayvan if your referring to mothers or women, you'd be wrong though. Sure those words exist and they encompass a vast majority of uterus having people, but it doesn't include all of them. Fortunately, you and Anna can use whatever word you want to colloquially. None of this is harming you in literally any way!

@IvanTheDarkAngel Жыл бұрын

@@glich86 Every single uterus-having person is female however.

@johnfoster8643 Жыл бұрын

I think Ana has moved a little to the right on a few issues recently, my theory is it’s because she had that bad experience with a homeless guy on the street. I agree with her that something needs to be done about crime in some areas in California, but sometimes when someone moves to the right/left on one issue, they start to reconsider their opinions on some other issues.

@kellyravakhah3764 Жыл бұрын

Ana was centering herself. Nobody was stripping her of her womanhood. The language she was referring to is typically used in a clinical or medical millieu to be intentionally inclusive and has nothing to do with her identity as a woman. If I’m an OB or maternity nurse and know that I’m providing care to a trans man, I’m not going to call him/them a woman/mother etc., and her position as a leftist/progressive should have informed her. This isn’t the first time she has had major blind spots. She definitely isn’t intersectional enough in my opinion to be a real ally without doing more unpacking of her privilege.

@darlalathan6143 Жыл бұрын

Another winner!

@termsofusepolice Жыл бұрын

Either people should be shown respect and have their gender identity addressed using the language they prefer or they should not be shown that respect. There can be no double standard. And one person's request does not nullify another's even if they are making opposing requests. RESPECT EVERYONE.

@hobotraveler7413 Жыл бұрын

Your Menstrual Birther parental unit should be proud of you .

@mr_monroe_8818 Жыл бұрын

U won perfect take

@anolisa1939 Жыл бұрын

The idea that some of the most privileged people on earth (generally, white men) are able to appropriate the identity of women based on a mere incantation (pronouns) is essentially erasing everything it means to be a woman. It’s like a rich boy using black face & stereotyped behavior because he feels in his heart he’s black. Not only does he have the audacity to call himself black, but he insists we ALL refer to him as black. So, he essentially gets the stolen identity…without ever facing the hardship & discrimination many black individuals are forced to live through every day.

@pablog2000 Жыл бұрын

Grateful for sam and emma for recognizing how useless, unhelpful and counterproductive that stupid tweet is right now. And ana dying on that hill is bizarre and hurtful. It's function was antitrans, I don't care about the intention.

@beautifultrouble-vx4zj Жыл бұрын

Nobody cares about Ana's tweet anymore.... we want to hear about her complete takedown of Cenk for trying to call her out on it. I told y'all this trans BS is a guaranteed losing issue, you misogynist bigots can't just erase half the population because you want to expose yallselves to girls in female changerooms.

@beautifultrouble-vx4zj Жыл бұрын

'Ana dying on the hill of not letting y'all erase her existence is bizarre'

@MrBazBake Жыл бұрын

This is reminiscent of Ana's 20 minute rant on TYT declaring the Left doesn't understand crime punctuated with the declaration, "Don't tell me the data! I don't give a damn about the data!" If you tell her the data, the consequences, the complications, she'll get even angrier because she didn't have a basis for her belief in the first place other than a gut reaction.

@letsgobrandon9867 Жыл бұрын

Define woman.

@pablog2000 Жыл бұрын

@@beautifultrouble-vx4zj the only people in this discussion who's existence is under threat are trans people. Sorry your parasocial friend is catching crap for being stupid and harmful.

@michelebella677 Жыл бұрын

Glad you both took an objective view despite Ana being your coworker and having a personal relationship with her. It’s very easy to want to stand up for your friend, and in doing so, get blinded to your own views on the subject.

@StephsGarageJewelry Жыл бұрын

That's not strictly true. I give Sam credit here. Emma yesterday was trying to do damage control for Ana. Emma was vague and didn't give any point of reference or context. Many people were confused by her clip

@blankname6629 Жыл бұрын

She is not a coworker

@MonicaG_ Жыл бұрын

@@blankname6629 yeah they meant to say colleague, not coworker.

@maxsmart9116 Жыл бұрын

@@StephsGarageJewelry And in this clip she's clearly annoyed that it came up again. But to be fair, it's a tough situation to deal with, especially on camera.

@GeteMachine Жыл бұрын

Thats the reason I don't agree with people trying to say its bad optics or in-fighting when you're just addressing the talking point or argument made. Because it has to be consistent or people will bring up why its okay to let friends do this but not if the right or Jimmy Dore were to do it. So its good that the left surrounding this didn't try to swerve around it, because people would note that and use it against their integrity, especially because she was taking the same stance Terfs have, and transphobic to transmen/nonbinary people, as well as it being a reactionary take she contradicts herself later for having, and that has to be acknowledged.

@CoffeeKatastrophe Жыл бұрын

Ana's twitter replies are off the rails. She sound just like a right winger right now and I just don't get it. Does she not see that she's equating women with giving birth? Feminism called. I thought we covered this.

@anolisa1939 Жыл бұрын

No, referring to women as BIRTHING PEOPLE is equating them with giving birth.

@a.a9021 Жыл бұрын

@@anolisa1939 But the whole point of the term "birthing people" is that it is NOT equivalent to "women". Do you understand? No one on the left uses the term "birthing person" as a synonym for "woman", they specifically use it to _distinguish_ between giving birth and being a woman. It is the opposite of what you are saying.

@brennam954 Жыл бұрын

That's a good point. Man, the optics of her comment don't look good from any direction.

@Aarenby Жыл бұрын

@@someperson9999 you belive its a wife of man-

@ThompsonFlash9999 Жыл бұрын

It's also worth nothing Ana was entirely wrong. Even replies pointed out Hey, that's never referring to an indivdual, only groups in a medical or legal sense." And then Cenk was like "they say it's only medical, but here's AOC saying it!" Yeah Cenk, that's the legal side of the "legal and medical" part..

@mr_monroe_8818 Жыл бұрын

Right I was like 😂

@ThompsonFlash9999 Жыл бұрын

@@termsofusepolice what? Like, medically? Sure. If it's by Republicans trying to force men into women's bathrooms or vice versa, or trying to intrude on people's rights, it's the second part I mind more than them using medical terminology they do not understand solely to weaponoze bigotry.

@ToxicAudri Жыл бұрын

@@termsofusepolice They already do. But trans women are women. Trans men are men. Trans men can potentially give birth, and do menstruate, should we call people who look like men, women?

@bmachyrue9768 Жыл бұрын

@@termsofusepolice if it's relevant to the legislation, sure. just like "birthing persons" is only used when it relevantly and accurately describing a group of people capable of giving birth.

@ElChuntyCabra Жыл бұрын

Hey liberals! Thanks for sacrificing another one of your own and sending her to our side! Soon you won't have anyone left to cast out. Your numbers will dwindle and TRUMP will reign as king ! 👑💖👑

@asmallrat Жыл бұрын

0:00 Introduction of John, a caller from Indiana. 0:05 John expresses appreciation for the show. 0:30 John brings up the topic of Ana* Kasparian's tweet and the response it has received. 1:53 Emma defends Ana*, saying it's not fair to put her in the same boat as J.K. Rowling. 2:26 Sam addresses the tweet, saying it was an anti-trans act. 4:10 Sam explains the importance of being sensitive to trans issues, especially during times when trans people are under assault. 7:29 Sam argues that using inclusive language does not harm women. 8:32 Emma reiterates her stance, emphasizing the responsibility of media members to be aware of the larger context. 9:52 Sam and Emma agree that people should communicate their preferred language in personal contexts, but public figures should be aware of the potential impact of their words. *Edited for misspelling, ty @A Hero Taxi Driver

@Trouble_Butt Жыл бұрын

Wow, thanks.

@pwnyboy9714 Жыл бұрын

This is the take. Ana should be more aware of how her words are going to be taken.

@natearmstrong2843 Жыл бұрын

Now i feel like i don't even need to watch😂 thanks

@lmcfigs4874 Жыл бұрын

for a 13 min video?

@ProtossHyrdalisk Жыл бұрын

How is Anna Not Similar to JK Rowling? They both made very similar points.

@abbylarkspur Жыл бұрын

The place where they say people with uteruses and birthing person is the public health sphere, where there are trans people who would rather forget that they have uteruses for personal reasons. It's dangerous because T can make your uterus adhere, and it happened to famous (arguably also transphobic) trans man Buck Angel. As I said on Twitter, she was mistaking public health language for an insult

@pdxlasher Жыл бұрын

So are you saying this would not be appropriate terminology in other context beyond public health?

@rainkidwell2467 Жыл бұрын

@@pdxlasheryes? Obviously yes, this terminology is clinical. It has a time and a place, but the whole of society is acting like we want to somehow replace every instance of the word "woman", it's... Insane, hyperbolic and wild. Who the fuck would want that? Clinical terminology is utilitarian. When talking about people who have uteruses, you want to avoid legally excluding anyone who has a uterus. Say we institute the right to abortion, legally, for "women". Trans men who've already changed their identity documents are now legally excluded from that protection, and there's not a damn thing they can do about it. Utility. ALL language must serve a purpose, and this language has a highly specific purpose to serve - why is nobody acknowledging that? Everybody just wants to screech and cry and pretend we're deleting words right out of Webster's, it's.. So stupid to me

@chrisosborne3679 Жыл бұрын

@Manwitch that's exactly what's he's Saying, and he's kinda right. Except they really shouldn't be used at all in my opinion. It's all pretty ridiculous to me. They tell people you have to call trans certain words, because other words offend them, or hurt their feelings, but the minute a woman is offended by the words being used for a woman, all the sudden that's a problem. I think Ana's got balls for saying her opinion when she knew that people progressives usually aren't very tolerate of other progressives that disagree with them, or think differently. That's what I've observed anyway.

@rainkidwell2467 Жыл бұрын

@@chrisosborne3679 so in other words, you don't understand why words exist? You literally just think this is all a "culture war" thing?

@marinakesawa7470 Жыл бұрын

@@chrisosborne3679 It doesn't "take balls" (dumb phrase btw) to spit out white-lady grievances. She is saying the exact same shit as TERFs and completely ignoring context. She's not being an ally when she does that; even worse, she's making it seem like trans rights somehow diminish women's rights, which is wrong and shows that she doesn't think of transwomen as women.

@lucasp1185 Жыл бұрын

omg...thank you sam!!!....ana kasparian is NOT an evil or hateful person...but her tweet was anti-trans...is that simple....I hate when people start doing mental gymnastics to defend her...is just crazy.....

@fleetstreet11 Жыл бұрын

Trans is anti-human.

@slang1517 Жыл бұрын

What do you mean 'anti-trans?' The tweet in no way condemns, vilifies or attacks trans people. It doesn't even mention trans people.

@65avo65 Жыл бұрын

She’s had some really crappy takes though, especially recently

@jjjay30 Жыл бұрын

Her takes on homelessness and crime show me different. Her and Cenk have been spewing centrist to right wing talking points alot lately. I've stopped listening

@fleetstreet11 Жыл бұрын

@@65avo65 Transgenderism is a really crappy take, though.

@imbwildrd3693 Жыл бұрын

Have to admit, for the last several months I've felt like TYT has been inadvertently drifting right.

@mischr13 Жыл бұрын

yup. this is just the latest thing, not even getting into how much she hates the homeless

@Code_Dee Жыл бұрын

I think people just tend to have this conception of them as being more left than they actually are. I mean Cenk is a former Republican who is open about being a capitalist. They're definitely left of the mainstream in America, and more left than probably any other channels their size but there's a lot of room to their left on many issues.

@ernststravoblofeld Жыл бұрын

TYT has never been an extremely far left organization. Are they moving right, or are you going left?

@adamrisch Жыл бұрын

@@ernststravoblofeld I've always had critiques of Cenk and Ana, but they have absolutely gotten worse in their public commentary over the last year or two. In June of 2020 when the George Floyd protests were raging, Ana was down with "defund the police"; fast forward a couple years and all of a sudden she's fear-mongering about crime and wants more police lol. How many years has Cenk spent raging against money in politics only to publicly endorse a billionaire for mayor of Los Angeles last fall, one who was a Republican no less right up until he changed his registration to Democrat just prior to running. Ana's recent sit down with Ben Shapiro, where she normalized and sucked up to a billionaire-backed right-wing grifter whom she and Cenk have spent years mocking and told him how she thought he was "different" from other hate mongers whose salary he pays is another absurd example. Late last year Cenk even hired a conservative (Rick Sanchez) who used to work for Fox News and tried to pass him off as a progressive on Rebel HQ until I called his ass out on it repeatedly. I could go on, believe me, this is not an exhaustive list, but no, their audience hasn't moved left, if anything it's moving right now (I'm talking specifically about the main show), because more and more that's who Cenk and Ana are courting, similar to how other grifters like Kyle Kulinski and Briahna Joy Gray frequently talk out of both sides of their mouths and pander to the right for clout and views.

@weirdsciencetv4999 Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Especially with their dwindling support for Ukraine

@rebirthoflegend4797 Жыл бұрын

Between this and their recent anti bailreform shit who knows wtf is going on over there

@BarberJ95 Жыл бұрын

Don’t forget her anti unhoused folks takes

@ThompsonFlash9999 Жыл бұрын

TYT received millions of dollars from a capitalist, they didn't get it for free, we're seeing what was sold here

@salvadorpalma8173 Жыл бұрын

@@BarberJ95 she went on a rant over that on rmbrown show. And he had to dance around the subject.

@salvadorpalma8173 Жыл бұрын

Are you guys surprised? They denied the Armenian genocide!

@thomasrussell4674 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely, on homelessness and drug addiction and other stuff, tyt are too right wing

@nowthenzen Жыл бұрын

Sam not being offended by women referred to as "birthing persons" is irrelevant.

@ismth Жыл бұрын

They’re not tho that’s the whole point of the terminology….

@Str8Rippin93 Жыл бұрын

Who the fuck is not offended these days😅

@cdw2468 Жыл бұрын

no one refers to women as birthing persons

@Str8Rippin93 Жыл бұрын

@@cdw2468 no you're completely wrong

@cdw2468 Жыл бұрын

@@Str8Rippin93you’re not gonna elaborate?

@spector969 Жыл бұрын

It's funny that you people seem to think the feelings of a handful of men in dresses are more important than the feelings of billions of women across the globe. But you do you, MRAs gonna MRA.🤣😂

@christianajoy Жыл бұрын

This take is very appreciated. Thank you, Sam.

@letsgobrandon9867 Жыл бұрын

Why didn't he cover Ana's live on air takedown of Cenk over it, where she called him the king of strawmen and a pathological liar?

@DissociatedWomenIncorporated Жыл бұрын

Yep, he absolutely nailed it!

@Lelski Жыл бұрын

It is appreciated because you agree with him lol

@DissociatedWomenIncorporated Жыл бұрын

@@Lelski I do tend to agree with the truth, yes.

@GoneFishingAway Жыл бұрын

@@DissociatedWomenIncorporated It's your version of truth.

@youforget1000thingsaday Жыл бұрын

Yeah, Ana's gonna have to take an L for this, lol. That was random outrage for no reason. Just wanted to hear her keyboard click clack.

@letsgobrandon9867 Жыл бұрын

No, she isn't. Define woman

@rachel_adams9646 Жыл бұрын

@@letsgobrandon9867 You should define it first, since your so clever... lol.

@ITX-EcoClass Жыл бұрын

Well, then I hope her keyboard has brown switches so as not to disturb anyone else!

@letsgobrandon9867 Жыл бұрын

@@rachel_adams9646 adult female human

@coreyc1685 Жыл бұрын

@@letsgobrandon9867 just use a dictionary. Then use that same dictionary to get the definition of a trans-woman. It's really not as difficult as you're pretending it is.

@zoldierz Жыл бұрын

Anyone that believes that tyt is a leftist channel is extremely naive. And I say that as a former avid watcher of them.

@Str8Rippin93 Жыл бұрын

Im sorry but you are psychotic if you dont believe tyt is left wing

@powderedtoastfacekillah734 4 ай бұрын

Well they definitely aren’t centrist or right wing so idk what that makes them

@TheTopTurnchuckle Жыл бұрын

Ana lost me ever since she suggested banning gas stoves is a problem because HOA costs for replacing them would be high…no care for public health. Her commentary has been mediocre

@kossnfx Жыл бұрын

I appreciate Emma stating that as journos and public figures they shouldn't be conflating their personal lives with public support/statements, but anyone who watches TYT knows that's ALLLLL that Ana does- practically every story is an opportunity for her to roll out an autobiographical anecdote or personal opinion. Even before the incredibly bad take she decided to tweet I had already been avoiding YT videos if I could tell she was presenting, for that very reason.

@lb456 Жыл бұрын

Purity tests like yours will destroy the left from within. Stop and grow up.

@KimmminemWest Жыл бұрын

She's a KZfaqr

@Bound4Earth Жыл бұрын

Yeah her and Cenk are the reason I stopped watching. He lost it in 2016 and made himself look like a jackass in front of Alex Jones and gave him a win. It was the last straw for me. They constantly lose it on their own show. Be professional and stop raising your voice constantly while inserting analogies, this is supposed to be a news show.

@EasternRomeOrthodoxy Жыл бұрын

🇷🇺❤🇮🇷🇸🇦🇵🇸🇨🇳You are just as sick as your right-wingers. Americans, get help🤣👉🇺🇲 = 🏳️‍🌈👪👨‍❤️‍💋‍👨💑

@hardymonty Жыл бұрын

@Prezident By Name Only Why can't Ana be publicly frustrated by a political narrative that's goal is to minimize her role in society as a "woman'. Words are powerful... and accepting an oversimplified pronoun like "birthing person" or "person with a uterus" strips away a lot of other things that make her a woman. Why isn't it acceptable for her to voice that opinion... and why is it "anti-trans" for her to be "pro woman"?

@jayrenee378 Жыл бұрын

The young Turks should go back to fear mongering about crime 😂🙄 I used to watch them a lot but unfollowed them. They just can't stop with reactionary talking points. Seems like they are half Jimmy dore type content now.

@elimontoya1969 Жыл бұрын

Thought the very same thing, long ago. Saw Dore beginning his full-on decent into hell/grift and wondered how long Ana or Cenk had before they sniffed out that fascist cash. Doomsprayers and vote suppressors do really well financially, but the big bucks await the further down you go.

@JadeHarleyCoffeeMug Жыл бұрын

jimmy dore used to work there after all so maybe that apple didn't fall far from the tree

@nanashi1173 Жыл бұрын

What videos in the last year were at all Jimmy Dore like?

@madaemon Жыл бұрын

I00% agree with the caller. The original tweet was bad, but maybe she did in fact run into the real-life 0.0001% who referred to her as a "birthing person," and she responded to twitter with a terrible hot take. Her responses, though, were the kind of indignant "excuse me for having an opinion" you'd expect from the most stereotypical reactionary--and that was to political allies!

@johnsushi2007 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for agreeing. I am disappointed that MR felt it was only worth 16 minutes of their time over two days with no graphic showing the tweets and no time given to the broader context of Ana’s reactionary replies.

@irenewyvern Жыл бұрын

In California you are legally a birthing person and it is on new birth certificates. It's not what she is called. It's what you now ARE. Why are you guys being disingenuous? That is the new term you guys are pushing on everyone. Either you want to be birthing person or you don't. It's already being used in the medical field to appease trans activists. It's only a matter of time before calling yourself a woman erases trans woman and is not a politically correct term, obviously.

@TravelsTTG Жыл бұрын

@@johnsushi2007dumb

@1MarkKeller Жыл бұрын

@johnsushi2007 I guess they were trying not to stir the pot too hard. Looks like they will have to stir it once again tho considering her and Cenk's new statements.

@peterschaeffer 11 ай бұрын

I typed her name into Google and got back 'birthing person'. This insanity is quite real and quite pervasive.

@christophermckinney3924 Жыл бұрын

I support trans peoples rights BUT I think you’re wrong that people aren’t being required to use certain language referring to trans people. People are losing their jobs over not using required language. Those who control language control ideas. This all feels very 1984 from both directions. Right and left. Free speech includes offensive speech.

@davida4687 Жыл бұрын

Who lost their job?

@stevena.7022 Жыл бұрын

@@davida4687 Maya Forstater

@davida4687 Жыл бұрын

@@stevena.7022 This woman from the UK was not fired for not using required language, she was fired for after posting a series of tweets about gender and sex. The way you write "people are losing their jobs over not using required language" seems to indicate that this is something that is wide spread. I find it highly unlikely. This isn't even an example of what you were saying. I think you've found an anti-trans activist, and I can understand why a private company might not want to have an employee like that. 1984 is about the government having control not private companies. The only politicians that are trying trying to do that resemble 1984 in regards to the trans issue come from the right.

@stevena.7022 Жыл бұрын

@@davida4687 F i'm not the OP here, but fired for being an anti trans activist on twitter and fired for not using required language are equal here. If someone tweets'' trans women are women'' and gets fired (for trans activism ?) I see it the same The whole private company /1984 thing is a different conversation. But I would disagree if you claim private companies can't violate your enumerated freedoms : ie speech.

@davida4687 Жыл бұрын

@@stevena.7022 I dunno "required language" sounds like misgendering or maybe continuing to use some kind of specific terms or phrases and generally when told not to. It's not particularly surprising to me that a private business would fire someone for being an activist. I own a business, and especially doing what I do, if I found that my employee was a MAGA activist on Twitter, I'd fire them. I honestly wouldn't care if I was called a fascist or contributing to a 1984 dystopia. I think they should be able to be a MAGA activist on Twitter but not an employee of our business.

@w0ody16 Жыл бұрын

Sam you really nailed it there in that bit after the 6 minute mark. It's that simple.

@subversivelysurreal3645 Жыл бұрын

It was the perfect analogy.❤

@blackmore4 Жыл бұрын

@@subversivelysurreal3645 How so? The only "people who can get pregnant" are women.

@EasternRomeOrthodoxy Жыл бұрын

🇷🇺❤🇮🇷🇸🇦🇵🇸🇨🇳wtf?)) You are just as sick as your right-wingers. Americans, get help🤣👉🇺🇲 = 🏳️‍🌈👪👨‍❤️‍💋‍👨💑

@buddhabean Жыл бұрын

Kasparians Bill maher arc is becoming more and more pathetic

@tobler17 Жыл бұрын

Here's the thing, Ana wasn't referring to things in her personal life. The examples SHE gave was lawmakers and doctors using those terms to refer to groups of people. Which is just accurate to do. But she was mad about that and conflating them referring to a group with referring to her specifically. And then when called out over this karen bullshit, she used feminism to defend her insane main character syndrome anger. There is no defense of this.

@MrBazBake Жыл бұрын

Ana's reply to the increasing use of the term "birthing person" was to shout, "I'M NOT A PERSON, I'M A WOMAN!"

@kellyravakhah3764 Жыл бұрын

This!!!!!

@Code_Dee Жыл бұрын

If lawmakers and doctors just used the term "woman" when referring to abortion they would literally be being less accurate. They'd be excluding trans men and nonbinary folks who can get pregnant, and including women who can't get pregnant. You know, because of all those post-menopausal women and women with hysterectomies who are concerned about having their abortion access taken away.

@dzxn3728 Жыл бұрын

Furthermore journalists are supposed to report the news, not be the news. So she forgot that & became a story by intersecting her wrong opinion when no one asked. That's making a story & it's BS.

@letsgobrandon9867 Жыл бұрын

Why aren't you covering Ana's brutal, live on air takedown of Cenk?

@ThePanMan11 Жыл бұрын

I just think it was a mistake for Emma to adress it at all. The problem with Ana's tweet is that she's a large left wing public personality that verbatim repeated anti-trans talking points that come directly from the right. Nobody in daily life is calling others "birthing persons" or whatever. These are terms that are only used in Medical and legal settings where objective and highly specific language is a requirement. What Ana's intentions were with this is not something I care about to be honest. If you accidentally hit someone with your car you still hit someone. Emma's coverage seemed to be more focused on sticking up for her friend rather than adressing the fact that Ana did something that she shouldn't have done and was not based in reality. When you're a leftist and you have TERFs and Nazi's in your comments agreeing with you, you should be taking pause and reflecting. Apparently Emma is not ready to criticize her friend. Which is fine. But then she shouldn't have spoken on the issue. It also did not sit well with me that Emma would discuss a tweet and not show the tweet in question so people could make up their minds for themselves. The whole coverage felt meant to prime people to take Ana's side and did not inform anyone of what happened. This reporting was definitely below the standards I'm used to from the Majority Report. Glad to hear that Sam had a more reasonable approach.

@elimontoya1969 Жыл бұрын

Best post I've read on the subject. 🎯

@ThePanMan11 Жыл бұрын

@@elimontoya1969 The whole thing is just disturbing. These talking points are in the exact same vein as the CRT controversy. You hear about something that's only being used in highly specialized circumstances and pretend it's widespread and attacks your group directly. It would be the same if Ana came out and said: "I don't think should be okay with our schools teaching our kids that white people are worse than black people. That doesn't make you racist."

@davidvelohue9258 Жыл бұрын

Well said. This was not a good look for Emma. It's understandable that this situation is awkward for her, but this is a significant story; so if she can't give it the due objective consideration that it deserves, she should just be honest and admit that instead of gaslighting her audience.

@rrrrrr99999 Жыл бұрын

You put it better than I could

@michaelallan5211 Жыл бұрын

A few points in response to this: 1) I don’t think Ana’s tweet was wrong. She was addressing a broader point, because this type of language is beginning to crop up. 2) I don’t think it’s for anyone to assume whether Emma was ready to speak on this or not. She said what she said. 3) I noticed Sam also didn’t show the tweet. 4) Emma also did comment on the content of the tweet and stated her own view on it. 5) Why shouldn’t Emma defend Ana when she’s being attacked? That’s what was happening. People were being very unreasonable towards Ana And lastly, it’s not like what Ana was saying is some thing only right-winger agree with. It’s likely fair to say that the majority of people agree with what Ana was saying, because the world is bigger than just the online left based on twitter

@ChubbyCheeks01 Жыл бұрын

Ana Kasparian has never done anything wrong ever and is perfect in every way and we should all worship her and if we don't, Emma will tell us why WE are the problem and not Ana because Ana is never the problem because that is not possible. Everyone give your money to TYT so that we can help Ana buy another BMW.

@knowledgeispower36 Жыл бұрын

Sam is right the act and the tweet was anti trans and in my opinion “Karenish” , but the way she doubled down on it was insane , she should’ve took a step back and thought about what she said , talked to a few people then came back to reply if she still felt the same way

@terryowen6759 Жыл бұрын

Ana doesn't have to apologize for being a woman and saying she doesn't like being labeled. We have been woman since time began...no additional label needed

@RestingonHope 11 ай бұрын

Trans people do not exist. There are only two sexes/genders. Quit the straw man delusional arguments here.

@davidvelohue9258 Жыл бұрын

Emma's discomfort with spending time on this story is clear to see, and it's not a good look. I appreciate that the situation is awkward for her, due to Ana being a friend. But this is a significant story that is highly relevant to the left wing media space, and it deserves due consideration from multiple angles. The reality is that Ana's tweet was wild. It appeared to come out of nowhere, and played straight into one of the most weaponized current right wing talking points. Ana is not new to this media environment, and simply HAD to have known what would happen after she sent that tweet. She's no different to Sam Harris in this regard. The caller was absolutely right in saying that the tweet carried J.K. Rowling vibes, irrespective of what Ana has done in the past. All of a sudden Ana decided to tweet like a TERF, and that surely says something about her current mindset. Ana is somebody who knows full well what TERF tweets look like, she can't have been naive to this. It looks like Emma's friendship with Ana has compromised her ability to tackle this story with the full consideration it deserves. That's understandable, but it would have been better if Emma simply admitted that, rather than move the conversation along prematurely.

@andrewlocke6103 Жыл бұрын

Agreed! Cringey!

@rainkidwell2467 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, it's extra wild right after she made a statement about puberty blockers being potentially dangerous the other day

@ppetal1 Жыл бұрын

@Rain Kidwell any procedure or medication carries a degree of risk.

@rainkidwell2467 Жыл бұрын

@@ppetal1 I know that, what's your point?

@almana8865 Жыл бұрын

@@rainkidwell2467 Puberty blockers are dangerous though.

@kittycatswhiskers Жыл бұрын

THANK YOU!!! I really appreciate how you on TMR can see outside their sphere of experience and LISTEN/LEARN to the evidence of those who do have these lived experiences. I hope Emma has a friendly chat with Ana and holds her to account.

@KimmminemWest Жыл бұрын

Because she wants to be called a woman... yall are wild.

@kittycatswhiskers Жыл бұрын

@@KimmminemWest and that is absolutely fine. What isn't ok is her tweeting a right-wing dog whistle and then doubling down on what she did. Look at who supported her and retweeted it. When friends of yours point out that you're wrong, it's time to listen; something Ana hasn't done. It's really sad.

@iang8169 Жыл бұрын

But she's only wrong in your opinion . I voted for Biden ,not a Republican and I think Anna's 100% right and she's a supporter of trans rights at the dame time . there's a lot of diverse opinions on this and none are right or wrong in an absolute sense , everyone s entitled to their opinions

@kittycatswhiskers Жыл бұрын

@@iang8169 opinions are really irrelevant when it comes to facts. The facts are Anna has never personally been called a birthing person. The facts are trans peoples rights are at risk. The facts are Annas tweet was supported by the worst, of the worst. The fact is an objection to inclusive language is a dog whistle to the worst of the worst. The fact is Anna chose not to listen to friends and colleagues. The fact is, with her social media presence, this will harm trans people. Opinions are like arseholes, we all have them, but I really don't want to hear them.

@bilalc4415 Жыл бұрын

Calling someone a TERF because they would rather be called a woman rather than birthing person is possibly the most manipulative thing you can do. Honestly you are taking it too far.

@bigdaddy0614 Жыл бұрын

It's political pandering.. They don't want the trans activists upset. The majority of trans people don't care. But the loud and obnoxious few on Tik Tok are crying about it.

@ianthemagus Жыл бұрын

This is spot-on. This is an issue of misogyny directed towards a woman for owning her womanhood rather than transphobia coming from Ana.

@IhaytFukkingsocialmedia Жыл бұрын

YA NO KIDDING. but i get the feeling in this out of touch, wishy-washy wussy space, they wont take kindly to that FACT.

@Ypsiroselee Жыл бұрын

“I’m a woman. I recognize there are people who menstruate who do not live as women.” A very healthy way to broach the topic.

@elemenoQ Жыл бұрын

Incredibly based, thank you Sam

@pinbraid Жыл бұрын

Yes, incredibly based and red pilled.

@ErinLynagh Жыл бұрын

Hi MR, I am a trans women and I wanted to say I really appreciate ur response to this. I've been watching you for almost a decade now and I feel like you and ur show has always been great on issues, and I was glad u didnt say something cringe just bc ur were her friend. This came off as really sympathetic to the trans community i think and I really appreciate it

@therealignotus7549 11 ай бұрын

''People who can get pregnant'' Shows respect to people that can get pregnant, whom are who?

@GanguroKonata Жыл бұрын

I'm glad for the insight on this because that last video's comments were getting kinda weird. A lot of people saying things like "trash" and the like, didn't like the vibes

@marinakesawa7470 Жыл бұрын

Look into other things Kasparian has said. This isn't the first time she's boosted harmful ideas.

@brennam954 Жыл бұрын

@@marinakesawa7470 I always side eye TYT as a whole (even though I agree with much of their content) given how shallow and reactionary it can sometimes be, especially knowing their past as a gossip channel...

@Gaymers_Union Жыл бұрын

MR always keeps it real, criticising a friend for doing something hurtful isn't easy and I appreciate it so much ❤️

@philhumphries2837 Жыл бұрын

Very well put imo

@matthewandrew8423 Жыл бұрын

He could have done it in private

@chinoobi2512 Жыл бұрын

What was hurtful about her tweet?

@seanpatrick1243 Жыл бұрын

@@matthewandrew8423 He could have responded to a caller in private? You can delete your comment or continue to be an example of “It is better to remain silent and be thought the fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.” EDIT: I just discovered that this is a fake account created a year ago that is obsessed with disparaging Emma.

@beanwithbacon Жыл бұрын

They usually do, which is why I've been a viewer for as long as I have, but their decision to keep perpetuating the ignorace that JK Rowling is "transphobic" is getting rather old.

@waynesmith8764 Жыл бұрын

Anna just parroted a right wing talking point against trans people. I don't think she's anti trans but, continuing to be combative in the comments defending her post doesn't help her case with some people.

@JeremysBlackWalMartBouncer Жыл бұрын

I like Ana and agree with most of her takes. But this tweet, yeah, I think this was a bad take on transgenderism on her part. I get what she is saying, but this is so tone deaf.

@humanbeing2420 Жыл бұрын

This whole episode shows something I've observed previously, which is that Ana Kasparian is simply not very bright.

@michaelccozens Жыл бұрын

Ana's defense of her ridiculous anti-trans tweet was equally vile. It was all "but what about *MY* preferences?! Why don't they matter?", as if this was just a question of whim and not supportable fact. When your first response is to whine that your privilege isn't being taken as reality, you're way down a dangerous path.

@jan-willemvandijk3850 Жыл бұрын

Why did you bring up privilege? What privilege do you mean here?

@baynemacgregor8441 Жыл бұрын

@Kelsie how is it dehumanising to have terms or phrases that include the indisputable fact that Intersex men and Intersex nonbinary people have and do give birth let alone Trans men and Trans nonbinary people who give birth? It’s really obvious that there have to be terms or phrases that cover everyone who gives birth. That only referring to people who give birth as women erases the rest. While women have been oppressed for millennia so have All Intersex people and All Trans people. And that means men’s privilege is and always has been for Endosex Cisgender men but not remotely fully extended to Intersex men and Transgender men. It’s basic Intersections of prejudice. Undeniable in the statistics. One need only look at the comparative statistics from studies such as Australia’s Writing Themselves In volume 4 study where the graph of Verbal, Physical and Sexual Assault and Harassment shows that all three are worse for Trans men than for Cis women, all three are worse again for Nonbinary and all three are worse again for Trans women to see that sexism and transphobia are Intersections of oppression and violence.

@aaronbutler5480 Жыл бұрын

I'm sorry, whiner and demander of preferred pronouns says what?

@Bob-op5tm Жыл бұрын

Sorry… not sorry. Only biological woman can give birth. That in no way is anti trans.

@ElChuntyCabra Жыл бұрын

@TheKitsuneCavalier Жыл бұрын

I just hope that this wasn't Ana 's first step in becoming the next why-I-left-the-left, due to someone on the right offering her enough money to betray her beliefs.

@BarberJ95 Жыл бұрын

Time will tell. If she goes on Rubin on the Blaze then you’ll know it’s over

@TheKitsuneCavalier Жыл бұрын

I agree, @@BarberJ95 . Time will tell. Do you mean over for Ana, or over on a larger scale?

@BarberJ95 Жыл бұрын

@@TheKitsuneCavalier Ana, if she starts drifting right then and is on rightwing media it’s Greenwald situation and she’s gone to the dark side lol. I like her and was really disappointed, I just hope it’s not a bad inflection point.

@TheKitsuneCavalier Жыл бұрын

Everyone has their bad takes. Let's hope that's all that this is, @@BarberJ95 . 🤞

@letsgobrandon9867 Жыл бұрын

I called it years ago. She is way too attractive to be a progressive.

@robiboo6928 Жыл бұрын

Saying it’s ok because ana has been supportive in the past is just like saying dave Rubin is ok because he was supportive in the past

@dominicmilone1463 Жыл бұрын

Gatekeeping lefties while fascists try to ban your existence, a time honored recipe for success

@icecoldpierre Жыл бұрын

No it's not. Dave Rubin is a total right winger. When ana quits TYT and becomes a right winger then it will be similar.

@TechGroupF430i Жыл бұрын

That's a wicked spin right there. You're basically arguing that she should be outright blacklisted over this issue, and everything else said throughout her career is now moot.

@lw3764 Жыл бұрын

"It costs me nothing and it shows respect to people out there." Right there Sam nailed it. I get that the language feels awkward and it can feel reductive but we're trying our best here to respect everyone. Nobody is insisting that Ana be required to call herself a "person with a uterus"

@lw3764 Жыл бұрын

@@yeelahowah7476 as a woman it feels weird referring to myself by my body parts, I have a knee jerk reaction against that but I'm trying to see it from the other perspective of trans people too. But again, I'm not being required to call myself an "owner of a uterus" or whatever, I still get to call myself a woman, nobody is taking that away

@sophiepooks2174 Жыл бұрын

@@lw3764 Well said, I am a woman of trans experience and agree with you 100% love Anna too,she is a woman I would be happy to call a friend, everyone has their off days, empathy and respect are the most important thing.

@Andrea-ue7gv Жыл бұрын

Of course it costs sam nothing. Too bad he can‘t empathize with people who are affected by it, such as anna

@peterschaeffer 11 ай бұрын

I typed her name into Google and got back 'birthing person'. This insanity is quite real and quite pervasive.

@fmadiva Жыл бұрын

Let's be for real, the problem is we don't discuss afab people enough in general when it comes to being Trans or non-binary or both, or intersex people! It's a blindspot in general and it causes even progressives to not address their transphobia and queerphobia outside of transwomen and femme people.

@retror.d.1630 Жыл бұрын

Ana has been hanging with Ben Shapiro too much. I have been noticing a pattern with her. She has been moving to the right lately.

@masterchief9291 Жыл бұрын

no she hasn't. you can disagree with someone without questioning their entire politics. That's an option.

@jazzman5598 Жыл бұрын

Can you guys imagine a world where common courtesy included an emphasis on one word: respect? Really fine vid/Sam & Miss Emma.Thank you

@VanguardSupreme Жыл бұрын

That's _Ms._ Emma, what's the matter with you? jk

@maxsmart9116 Жыл бұрын

@@VanguardSupreme or maybe just Emma

@armondtanz Жыл бұрын

Im sure every incel, sexist , misogynist is laughing their heads off at 'bleeders' & 'chestfeeders' These morons aint got a clue...

@Khornelia Жыл бұрын

@@maxsmart9116 exactly lol

@denji7696 Жыл бұрын

@@Tony-723 lol, but yeah, scary

@weirdsciencetv4999 Жыл бұрын

Anna is always making snide remarks about people who have kids, how she’s “so glad she doesn’t have kids”, how people who think they are happy being parents are deluding themselves. I’m not sure where that comes from, but I sense the two lines of thought are related. I’m a left winger, but admittedly kinda happy her BS is catching up to her. Just watching her double down over and over and she’s clearly wrong.

@Str8Rippin93 Жыл бұрын

She gave her opinion

@weirdsciencetv4999 Жыл бұрын

@@Str8Rippin93 hey lotsa people have offensive unsolicited opinions. They are called right wingers

@Str8Rippin93 Жыл бұрын

@@weirdsciencetv4999 you sound like a hyper partisan. Left wingers have their share of stupid ass opinions and hateful speech. Of course right wingers can do the same

@lochnessamonster1912 Жыл бұрын

Your intuition is perfectly tuned! The number one right-wing troll towards ana for years now has been her being childless and I believe that has gotten to her and she is punching down because of it.

@viejolincanada Жыл бұрын

I don't like to live in an alternative reality and I think that Ana Kasparian was just tired of playing the modern-day version of "The Emperor's New Clothes".

@AslanJazzLan Жыл бұрын

The point of private vs public is sort of the point here. If Ana has had this happen to her privately, ok... Deal with it privately. There's no need to tweet out that sort of stuff to your massive audience in a time when trans rights are constantly under attack. It makes it seem like you have an issue with the practice in general and feeds into and bolsters the right wing, transphobic narrative. Emma seems to be skirting around this.

@aprilwilliamson9918 Жыл бұрын

Tell me about how adult trans people's rights are under attack. And I say adults because minors can't make their own medical decisions in any other context, and I don't think this deserves special treatment. Oh yeah, special treatment... It's what the alphabet brigade calls "rights".

@AslanJazzLan Жыл бұрын

@@aprilwilliamson9918 go away

@opctpos. Жыл бұрын

Let’s get down to brass tacks. Is there any scientific evidence to prove that people can be born in the wrong body? No, there isn’t. Of course, there are people who are born with bodies that they really really don’t like and they try to change. Maybe they should be called trans. That would make up most of the population, because virtually everyone would really like to change something about their body they don’t like. As for people who say they’re non binary; can someone please tell me why it’s so important for these people to tell virtually anyone they meet, know and work with that they’re non binary? What the fuck has it got to do with anyone else apart from them? Why does everybody else have to be inflicted and deal with the issues concerning their internal monologue? Please tell me. Not only that why do non binary people think it’s their right to force people to use different pronouns specifically for them, even when people are not in their presence? Why is it that they feel their wants and needs are so important that they have to add that extra level of discomfort and tension to ALL the people’s lives around them so they can feel better about themselves? The only people I know who do that don’t care about other people’s feelings, or take pleasure in making other people’s lives that little bit more awkward, stressful and worrisome. Remember, ANYONE can say they’re non binary, because EVERYONE tends to feel a bit masculine or a bit feminine at times. But most don’t. You know why? Because they know it’s inconsiderate, selfish and downright rude. Be wary of anyone who says they’re non binary and demand that you use their chosen pronouns. They’re literally telling you their wants and needs are far more important than yours. They do not want to be treated like everybody else. NO MATTER WHAT THEY SAY. They want to you to be inclusive. That’s a completely different thing. That means they want to be part of the group, but they want to play by their own rules and if you don’t adhere to their edicts you should be castigated and punished. Who needs that shit.

@DontStopCornPop Жыл бұрын

The caller has a problem with the title "Ana is not anti trans". Why? Does this person want Ana to be condemned as anti trans? Did she say something to hurt your feelings and now you're having a meltdown over anyone rightfully coming to her defense?

@user-yp2ps3gn3x 10 ай бұрын

"Has no impact on her life." Pardon me, but she did tweet about the IMPACT IT HAS HAD ON HER LIFE! Excuse me all the hell, but if someone saying she wants to be called a WOMAN, isn't okay, THEN NEITHER IS CALLING SOMEONE BY THEIR PREFERRED PRONOUN! The first tweet was harmless, but the reaction to it was over the top.

@MadDgtl Жыл бұрын

i really don't know why emma and others think the larger context of her commentary on trans people really matters here, this is the most up to date public statement she has made and refused to back down from. we don't have to wait until she makes more anti-trans remarks than pro-trans remarks in the context of her whole career to weigh in on it

@letsgobrandon9867 Жыл бұрын

Define woman

@MadDgtl Жыл бұрын

@@letsgobrandon9867 oh look, a matt walsh fanboy lmao

@gothgammy666 Жыл бұрын

Her overall stance has been silence and some light mocking of transgender people. I have a hard time believing she does support the community

@gothgammy666 Жыл бұрын

@@letsgobrandon9867 are you stuck troll

@NewMexico1912 Жыл бұрын

This is why trans people lose supporters instead of gaining them… y’all spend more time policing the language of allies and questioning their support. I remember when gay people were fighting for rights. They would over look people who made homophobic jokes in the past, or even present, so long as they were mostly in support of their rights You want to question everyone, the. Fight your own battles

@kevinmoses4201 Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Ana had a particularly bad take/Karen moment. She deserves criticism, but not to be tarred and feathered and run out of town.

@louzerreviews Жыл бұрын

Em yesterday: my friend isn't anti-trans Sam today: the tweet was definitely anti-trans Em today: I'm with Sam, that was anti-trans

@cdw2468 Жыл бұрын

not to say this is the case, but you can say something anti trans without being anti trans as a person

@violetk2020 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, the vid yesterday felt like she was telling trans people who we were/werent allowed to call transphobic. I guess she backpedalled

@johnsushi2007 Жыл бұрын

This is why I called. I felt that Emma was running defense for Ana but if Krysten Sinema had tweeted this we would all know what it was.

@violetk2020 Жыл бұрын

@@johnsushi2007 thank you for calling them

@tinalulumack378 Жыл бұрын

@@johnsushi2007 Yes, thank you for calling❤

@TwilightsSprite Жыл бұрын

Sam, I come to you for a reason: for insight I can't get anywhere else. Thank you for your honest opinion.

@tinalulumack378 Жыл бұрын

100%

@bezerbezer5567 Жыл бұрын

First how were supposed to talk to right wingers, now this? Did Ben Shapiro get to her?😂 idk why she brought it up in the first place. Who is calling her these names?

@potatopotatow Жыл бұрын

maybe he offered her 50 million too

@MrNateSPF Жыл бұрын

We'll see if she turns full grifter.

@xanders.3810 Жыл бұрын

Or your side of the political aisle is becoming more and more radical, leaving centre left people to feel unaccepted

@bezerbezer5567 Жыл бұрын

How f*cking crazy would it be if she ends up at a daily wire or some other right wing company. Idk but right wingers are going to take advantage of her dumb comment.

@theaviationist.5719 Жыл бұрын

What do Trans people want to be called? Trans women want to be called women? Why can't we just call them Tran Women and the biological women get keep their "Woman" title. Can't we just say "Trans woman" for a Male to female person, "Trans man" for a Female to Male person and "Woman" for biological woman like always?

@moosepocalypse6500 Жыл бұрын

I agree, perhaps she's not anti-trans... I don't know her well enough to know. That said, I think what she said was harmful to trans people, particularly during a huge attack on the trans community in the US and other countries. It will be used by those who ARE anti-trans to attack their community. I have no particular problem with terms like "person with a uterus" in a medical and legal sense. I have NEVER been addressed by such terminology in casual conversation, and I find it very hard to believe very many, if any, other women have. Though there are a lot of trolls out there to be fair 🤔

@joannahampton5979 Жыл бұрын

Ana rants for attention and Emma looks really stupid for always defending her outrageous blurbs & behavior.

@kirkw.72 Жыл бұрын

'No one is using these terms outside specific areas but also criticizing the use of these terms outside of those specific areas is transphobic.'

@gaeron1305 Жыл бұрын

She was right. Why are you changing how we view woman to accommodate for less than 1% of people.

@duncansonoryan Жыл бұрын

The response from an "ally" who screwed up is not to double down. How she acts at this point will tell us everything. Will she go down the JKR route or try to be an actual ally.

@lindenchisholm Жыл бұрын

She can’t be trusted. She’s obviously been radicalized by TERFs and has become one.

@e13kid Жыл бұрын

Perhaps bullying her will make her magically turn into a stronger ally.

@letsgobrandon9867 Жыл бұрын

No, you can't use the female changerooms. End of story, groomer.

@letsgobrandon9867 Жыл бұрын

@@e13kid it worked with Krysten Sinema.... oh wait

@vinnym5607 Жыл бұрын

@@letsgobrandon9867 Tell me you have a 65 IQ without telling me....

@philhumphries2837 Жыл бұрын

Best Sam segment since Michael was there xx

@NavinKumar-rh6qo Жыл бұрын

Hate to say it but Ana is just 100% wrong in this. In law and medical studies it’s infact incorrect to not use those terms.

@OT_concerned_citizen Жыл бұрын

What is anti trans. Not agreeing with the way you frame everything is not anti trans

@happyslave9162 Жыл бұрын

A case of saying something dumb and not owning it. It was dumb, it was pointless and she can't just admit it and move on. She was objectively wrong; extremely frustrating to see "leftists"(TYT is capitalist) stumble and not recover with grace. It really is how a RWer handles things, not a lefty. Anyway, the big picture is that it's harmful; that's the kind of thing fence-sitters rely on to maintain dissonance, not to mention the fashy ones who will boost it via appeal to authority arguments. Ana is best to recant and apologize or recognize at least, for everyone's sake. Tell her she's objectively wrong, those terms are not aimed at anyone, no one is calling her anything, period. It's a non-issue /sigh

@nicw3251 Жыл бұрын

It’s not a non issue to her and she’s entitled to her opinion and to put it on her own social media. You can’t cop and bully other’s feelings and opinions because they don’t fit yours

@happyslave9162 Жыл бұрын

@@nicw3251 It's a non-issue universally. Substitute the word "taxpayer" - if you don't want to be identified as a taxpayer bc you hate what taxes are generally spent on; do you call people out for using that term? No that would be silly, you just don't accept that it applies to you, that's an internal thing, you don't project it on others.

@christophermckinney3924 Жыл бұрын

Two things can be true at the same time. Trans erasure is a horrible concept, so is presuming trans people are more than 2% of the population whose rights deserve as much emphasis as women who are 51% of the population. Make no mistake women’s rights will be diminished as trans rights expand because the entire body of legal action on behalf of women was based on binary gender understandings. There were men and there were those who were not men. As long as the not men were women there could be an equal distribution of rights. Once they became men on one side versus women and not women on the other, women divided their power. I’d love to hear a discussion on this.

@johnquinones9669 2 ай бұрын

No. We have to give preference to women because they're biologically necessary. Trans women serve no evolutionary need.

@theothermorgan Жыл бұрын

Kasparians tweet was transphobic. If she is not transphobic, she needs to walk back her transphobic remark sincerely and stop making excuses.

@matsal3211 Жыл бұрын

Transphobic to u but not in society so grow up.

@missright9159 Жыл бұрын

If she has such a problem with "the language", then maybe she should take it up with the people who are causing us to be so protective over reproductive rights, trans-rights, and are too happy to conflate it all together to generate ire towards those groups who are affected. Like Sam said, "semen providers" aren't under attack because they're left alone in general. Like the caller said. She's shadow boxing, knowing others are going to get hit in retaliation, that being the core of the issue. And I guess we all figured she was smarter than this.

@michelleflora2957 Жыл бұрын

I wish you had told us what the tweet was….not all of us are on Twitter

@Yemeth9 Жыл бұрын

Sam’s a good dude.

@AxelFoleyDetroitLions Жыл бұрын

I Live in Indianapolis Area….Ive been kicked out of Bars in Broadripple after a Leather vest Biker Woman saw me walk out of a private toilet ….I’ve been stalked….and Ive been riduculed ….Most of the bigotry ive experienced occurred 7-10years ago…..But now I’m more concerned ill just be attacked before someone tries mocking me in public. I can’t understand All the Trans Enthusiasts (anti trans) Coming out of the woodwork again….it’s really scary. I’ve always kept my head low , i never approach anyone confrontationally (i always stop my friends from trying to defend my existence to annoying bigots in the street …i don’t want my friends entering that “fight” for me….i feel responsible to tell my friends “Just ignore it. Please don’t defend me. Those people with red hats are idiots. …ignore them…not worth it…lets move on and try to enjoy our day”. Im often worried my friends will step into dangerous situations on my behalf …. i have to explain how normal that life experience can be for me and to leave it alone. My friend asked me to go to the bathroom with her on st patrick day (and i had to explain i dont have an issue with accompanying her to the restroom, but it is not going to happen unless My bladder is about to burst…i doubted any conflicts would occur, but i am not going to take a chance of her feeling the need to defend me and get in argument should some drunk bigot try to be a genital enforcer (I believe im visually “passable” as a woman…but i wont use a public restroom unless my bladder is going to burst . That’s my reality…I had to calmly explain to my drunk friend who was feeling sad i wouldn’t go to the stalls with her….but she lives in a different world from my past experiences.

@patrickstreetet3085 Жыл бұрын

It was definitely a bad response from Anna, I feel like she might be off the sauce with her arguments back. Like missed why people are mad, and only focusing on them being mad at a usual ally, it's hard to believe that she doesn't get why it bothers people. But I do believe that she does mean well, but just lost the conversation.

@beautifultrouble-vx4zj Жыл бұрын

'Let's erase half the population'

@patrickstreetet3085 Жыл бұрын

Makes sense seems like a reasonable response.

@gothgammy666 Жыл бұрын

And Cenk which means TYT overall

@dynamoshotproductions326 Жыл бұрын

I don't understand the outrage her point is when the Republicans ban abortion they aren't targeting people with a uterus they are targeting women. She feels it's making light of women's plights when you reduce them to a body part. In anyway impling that that makes her anti trans is ridiculous.

@LeTrashPanda Жыл бұрын

It's painful when people fall off a perceived pedestal.

@pompelmostique Жыл бұрын

Bravo Sam. I've been having issues with Ana K's takes all year honestly. I do not like how cozy she is with Ben Shapiro nor how little push back she gives Ben whenever they interview. She's smart but has taken to keep up with Cenk by screaming so loud I can't play TYT's clips anymore.

@clntmagee Жыл бұрын

Saw no criticism of her Shapiro interview anywhere. Seemed so cozy with him that it felt like an attempt by the two of them to cross pollinate their audiences. Pretty disgusting.

@kellyravakhah3764 Жыл бұрын

I thought I was the only one

@archaeopteryx981 Жыл бұрын

Agreed. I expected a debate and instead got a stupid KZfaq influencer collab.

@NikaHollywood Жыл бұрын

She want's that Crowder money.

@MagpieTimes Жыл бұрын

At this point, she's x100 more triggered by trans inclusion than by anything drypoon boy has to say.

@tylerhackner9731 Жыл бұрын

Much appreciated take

@VishisTV Жыл бұрын

Honestly as an Indiana native myself I have to say we have a lot more terf acts going on than saying you prefer to be called something less inclusive.

@oOOoOphidian Жыл бұрын

Thank you for covering this with appropriate context.

@Ellimist000 Жыл бұрын

Yea I can believe that there are people being a little too insistent on certain words than people seem willing to think, but otherwise this is a completely fair take. Sam and Emma are great 😃

@khbgkh Жыл бұрын

If she had a quarrel with an individual and made a worldwide tweet about it, that would be just as big of a fumble

@samgod Жыл бұрын

You guys spent 13 minutes on discussing Ana's tweet without devoting the 10 seconds to actually read it for those of us who may not have had a chance to see it yet. Recaps folks. Don't assume all your viewers are fully caught up on everything, especially if you can recap it in seconds.

@robiboo6928 Жыл бұрын

Ana is auditioning for a role in the tulsi gabert and dave Rubin role her “debate “ with ben shapiro was obvious on that because it wasn’t a debate it was more like a conversation and she was agreeing more than disagreeing

@Whoeverheardof Жыл бұрын

This is the dumbest take I’ve heard.

@Whoeverheardof Жыл бұрын

This is the dumbest take I’ve heard.

@michaelallan5211 Жыл бұрын

Ugh. Talking about areas where the right and left agree doesn’t mean there aren’t also areas of disagreement. What’s wrong with Ben and Ana talking about issues they agree on? Nothing. And to say that Ana is transphobic is just plain ridiculous tbh

@thenoseknows9391 Жыл бұрын

STOP 🛑 defending her Emma!!!!!!

@judithp.5962 Жыл бұрын

I'm with you, Sam.

@zoldierz Жыл бұрын

I personally when I did watch tyt back in the day I never really liked Ana at all. I always felt like she was condescending and thinking that she knows it all. I couldnt bear watch the show with her. Just like she is right now, she always thinks that she is right and doesnt care about others opinions. Like when the humanist report kindly gave his opinion on it all, she just went on a defensive position of "You are a man so you have no say". And also her weird stance on homelessness.

@mr_monroe_8818 Жыл бұрын

Omg yes you would think them being "friends" he could offer criticism respectively, she basically said he's a man so his opinion don't matter like what?

@buskerbroadcastofficial3245 Жыл бұрын

Her anti-homeless stance is why I quit watching the show. It was too gross watching her advocate for forcing people into shelters whether they want to go. Right wing crap.

@me213516 Жыл бұрын

I agree with Sam but it's honestly annoying that every lefty commentator has to construct this long, drawn out, nuanced take on Ana's tweet. I don't think there's any need to opine on what her intentions were or if she's a transphobe or a TERF. She might not be those things, but what she said in the tweet just wasn't very bright. I'm not sure there's a huge ideological battle to be had here, I just think Ana's friends don't want to be mean and call her stupid, so they go thru these tedious discussions, when the actual underlying point can be made in a sentence or two.

@Sebastian-fn1qg Жыл бұрын

It just came across as real terfy. I understand there is greater context, but this FEELS like the beginning of many "so much for the tolerant left" grifts

@masterchief9291 Жыл бұрын

I mean.... she will say trans-women are women and would be one of the firsts fighting for their rights but nahhh let's cast her aside and label her a terf because we're upset about her phrasing in a tweet. Surely progress would come from that.

@Sloimer Жыл бұрын

@@masterchief9291that’s standard practice for weirdo progressives and why they struggle to create a cohesive coalition large enough to affect real change

@masterchief9291 Жыл бұрын

@@Sloimer Unfortunately that appears to be the case.

@Sloimer Жыл бұрын

@@masterchief9291 yep

@johnquinones9669 2 ай бұрын

Good TERF's have the balls to stand up to the trans mafia.

@Shasarazad Жыл бұрын

Thank you for clarifying and standing up for this.

@EasternRomeOrthodoxy Жыл бұрын

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@MillennialPawz Жыл бұрын

I agree with the caller. She may not be outwardly transphobic but a small part of her does have discomfort with trans people and you can tell by her tweets and replies. She basically just said "Im a REAL woman, and I shouldnt have to use this language because I have a uterus". So do trans men, Anna. In fact a lot of women don't have uteruses because they are either trans or they have medical reasons for not having one. This is why this language exists and it doesnt take away from her womanhood. I think she can use this as a learning experience to try and understand why she is so bothered by using inclusive language. She could do better. I say this as a huge fan of hers.

@johnquinones9669 2 ай бұрын

By real she means cisegender. Trans women will never be real women it's in your DNA.

@rrorge Жыл бұрын

My fear is that Ana has been hanging out with Shapiro too much and is looking for a way to get some of them right wing bucks by trying to court some sort of left wing controversy (aka doing a Dave Rubin)

@andrewjustice210 Жыл бұрын

Every time Sam said “Particuly” instead of “particulARLy”, I died a little inside

@CielBlanche Жыл бұрын

it's a big crisises

@kennybachman35 Жыл бұрын

Never heard a Bostonian or New Yorker talk before? We don’t say Al•yoo•minium either.

@mimio008 Жыл бұрын

Now that I read your comment, I can only hear that from him. I think you broke me 😂😂😂

@bmortloff Жыл бұрын

Sam's Australian

@itsROMPERS... Жыл бұрын

@@bmortloff from dine unda, mite? Oi doint digeroidooo, mite!

@grayndrob Жыл бұрын

Nobody can nor should they agree 100 percent with any side or person. If you do you're a follower not a free thinker. She said how she felt that doesn't make her anti trans. You're showing respect to trans people but spitting on real womens feelings.

@luna-p Жыл бұрын

The thing that drives me nuts is that the umbrella term being used is people. She's objecting to being called a person. That's absurd. She's the one conflating woman with all these bodily functions. They're not the same. I frequently use people in place of women, because I think their value lies not in being women, who are assumed to menstruate/ get pregnant/ give birth, but in being human beings. That phrase "___ are people too" is meant to humanize. The right is not using this inclusive language. The right will call Ana a woman just like she wants, while simultaneously working to take her rights away. She's right, she's not a birthing person. That term excludes her, even as a woman, because it's supposed to. But inherent in someone like Matt Walsh using woman is his expectation that she be nothing more than an incubator and a maid. Being called a woman doesn't shield you from dehumanization, but being inclusive helps to humanize others who are frequently seen as less than.

@lewa3910 Жыл бұрын

More people are learning that Ana has some BAD takes

@Vynjira-chan Жыл бұрын

some.. and bad.. are some nice words to use.. but yes.. agreed.

@roberti8116 Жыл бұрын

very very very few. then compare her to the best counterpart of hers on the right. Like maybe Ann Coulter? and its like she never said anything bad

@roberti8116 Жыл бұрын

also name another one besides the trans thing which i havent even seen yet

@Vynjira-chan Жыл бұрын

@@roberti8116 You really haven't seen her takes on Homeless People have you.. because she was full reactionary about locking people up for being homeless.. and Cenk and Ana have had several rants claiming Cashless Bail was legalizing Crime, and that we need the Death Penalty to reduce Crime and act as a Deterrent..

@MadDgtl Жыл бұрын

@@roberti8116 lmao are you serious right now? "better than ann coulter" is the only bar she has to clear to get a pass from you?

@uselessagent7342 Жыл бұрын

Wht a difference a tweet makes, I wake up to see this and I am simply lost for context I find social media rather repulsive so I dont know what the issue here is I wish they had prefaced this with an explanation

@jbtube73 Жыл бұрын

Social media has become pure toxic poison. The back and forth is alarming.

@lazyeclipse00 Жыл бұрын

So just looking up: This is getting idiotic , she stated what she wanted to be called. She didn’t state that no one else can be called that. If a woman can’t say she wants to be called a woman we are missing the point. Also how does Sam know how this effects her life. As a black man being referred to as a Man is very important to as in the U.S. there has been a history of calling / treating us anything else but a man.