BROKE CANON: The Entire History of The Weeping Angels

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4 жыл бұрын

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@taladavidson5400
@taladavidson5400 3 жыл бұрын
capaldi’s doctor definitely deserved a weeping angels story. although to be honest, capaldi’s doctor deserved about 5 more seasons
@nightowl8477
@nightowl8477 4 жыл бұрын
The Angels are at their best when they're kept simple. If you think about them too much, they stop making sense. Best left a mystery.
@stephenbutterfield8255
@stephenbutterfield8255 4 жыл бұрын
man you know fuckall, it like i only move when people are not looking cause am come from behind kinda guy, it the same with the weeping angles it just that the doctor likes to talk out of his ass
@nightowl8477
@nightowl8477 4 жыл бұрын
@@stephenbutterfield8255 - someone tell Stephen there's a rat scuttling back and forth across his keyboard.
@stephenbutterfield8255
@stephenbutterfield8255 4 жыл бұрын
@@nightowl8477 mate i fucking killed that rat two months ago, your dumb dumb am being honest
@aztecgodhuzluiospd1033
@aztecgodhuzluiospd1033 3 жыл бұрын
Angels in Manhattan is the way it is because they make it too overlycomplecated & nonsensical(why lady liberty? She’s the size of a building.)
@SamyulDavis
@SamyulDavis 3 жыл бұрын
Because deep down it'd be a missed opportunity not to do her Plus I'd say its the simplest of the Angels stories.
@englishgiraffe2124
@englishgiraffe2124 4 жыл бұрын
Reminder that the best Weeping Angel stories aren't even on TV. Touched By An Angel and The Weeping Angels of Mons are absolutely superb stories, and more people should recognise the two stories more.
@stevenhale2935
@stevenhale2935 4 жыл бұрын
Are these books or BF? And do they hold to the lore of blink?
@WindspriteM
@WindspriteM 4 жыл бұрын
@@stevenhale2935 touched by an angel is a book and weeping angels of mons a comic. both mentioned in the video.
@larniieplayz6285
@larniieplayz6285 3 жыл бұрын
Oh?
@LtCdrXander
@LtCdrXander 3 жыл бұрын
You can see the Angels of Mons comic in video form. The channel is called Beep the Meep. The videos are basically just a slideshow of the comic panels, but if you want a more easily accessible version instead of buying a physical one, it works. Link: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jKx7lsWV1KzGfmg.html
@pious83
@pious83 4 жыл бұрын
The Weeping Angels are much like the Daleks, but to a greater degree IE They don't need another new gimmick, they need a fresh perspective.
@benjamincoak4829
@benjamincoak4829 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with you that we needed more Capaldi. I believe that the veiled figure in Heaven Sent was supposed to be an Angel in one draft. So glad they decided not to use an angel.
@pious83
@pious83 4 жыл бұрын
@@benjamincoak4829 Under Moffat, they were just too one-note. Maybe the next showrunner, as Chibnall doesn't seem interesting in reusing secondary villains, could give them new purpose or utility.
@larniieplayz6285
@larniieplayz6285 3 жыл бұрын
?
@luckoftheirish5662
@luckoftheirish5662 3 жыл бұрын
Ironically I thought they were mostly similar in that their Manhattan episodes were pretty meh
@KingofPotatoPeople
@KingofPotatoPeople 4 жыл бұрын
The Weeping Angels even appeared in LEGO Dimensions to scare a whole new wave of kids shitless
@ethanrapp6998
@ethanrapp6998 4 жыл бұрын
Before this game there was an Easter egg with a weeping angel in the swamp in Lego Batman 3
@larniieplayz6285
@larniieplayz6285 3 жыл бұрын
@@ethanrapp6998 yeah
@bigimp5485
@bigimp5485 4 жыл бұрын
I’d like a whole story on how someone would cope with getting sent back in time.
@SamyulDavis
@SamyulDavis 4 жыл бұрын
sounds like it'd be absolute bliss
@nightowl8477
@nightowl8477 4 жыл бұрын
@@SamyulDavis - if I saw a Weeping Angel today I wouldn't even consider the possibility of it touching me. Even our Auton PM understands social distancing.
@radioactiveowl95
@radioactiveowl95 4 жыл бұрын
The book Touched by an Angel is literally that premise and it's great.
@bigimp5485
@bigimp5485 4 жыл бұрын
Holiday Fartcruise dang I gotta get that.
@bigimp5485
@bigimp5485 3 жыл бұрын
Venom Gamer 53 ooo nice. where will I be able to read it lol.
@evanmccreesh268
@evanmccreesh268 4 жыл бұрын
I like to think that the photos in Sally Sparrow’s binder turned into the Angels that zapped 10 and Martha into 1969
@Lizzieaftermidnight
@Lizzieaftermidnight 3 жыл бұрын
That would make alot of sense
@Oodelally
@Oodelally 4 жыл бұрын
I thought the angels were fine until the angels of Manhattan episode. That’s when they jumped the shark with the Statue of Liberty angel.
@spacepenguins8939
@spacepenguins8939 4 жыл бұрын
I mean that WW1 story sounds amazing, just adapt that, make the angles look like real angles saving people and the dr an insane person on the battlefield It would be fantastic
@nightowl8477
@nightowl8477 4 жыл бұрын
I know you don't like that Russell commissioned Steven with the Doctor-lite in Series 3, but if it helps, he was originally supposed to do the Dalek two-parter. He "messed them around" and took the Doctor-lite to make up for it. It was his own fault, really. Fair play to Helen, writing a two-part Dalek story with an unreasonable deadline is ridiculous. The story was never gonna be great, but she still managed to produce something of note. I'm so glad Steven did take the Doctor-lite tho. I'm not hard for Blink like others, but it is pretty great.
@Ben-vf5gk
@Ben-vf5gk 4 жыл бұрын
Daleks in Manhatten/Evolution of the Daleks is my favourite guilty pleasure story. Really would have liked to see Moffat's take on that concept though.
@nightowl8477
@nightowl8477 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ben-vf5gk - it's a real shame because Nazi experimenter/KKK Daleks is so new, but this is the only time we actually get to see them in their element, and...well, it's not ideal. I love the idea of the Cult of Skaro so much that I can actually enjoy the episodes too. Ten's a little off, but it's a fun time with new ideas (mostly Russell's, I imagine.)
@Ben-vf5gk
@Ben-vf5gk 4 жыл бұрын
@@nightowl8477 I love 10's performance in it, he's overacting sure, but I love the scene after Solomon dies and he loses it. Tbh I think it might have been better as a Dr lite story and have the Cult of Skaro just fighting amongst themselves. It definitely would have been better anywhere other than New York because dear God those accents.
@nightowl8477
@nightowl8477 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ben-vf5gk - it is camp sci-fi done fun. It's a romp, but maybe it was too early days for such a light Dalek story. I mean, by that point they were still endgame-level foes.
@JAProductions494
@JAProductions494 4 жыл бұрын
I always thought Time of Angels was scarier than Blink aswell
@WindspriteM
@WindspriteM 4 жыл бұрын
yeah!
@yee-raplantar-maximoff4318
@yee-raplantar-maximoff4318 2 жыл бұрын
"If Whittaker faces an Angle next year-" *Cut to the Flux, where Whittaker does, in fact, fact an Angel. Or several thousand*
@Jedi_Spartan_38
@Jedi_Spartan_38 4 жыл бұрын
1:24 Maybe they zap each other back in time. Also it's weird how there was no followup on Sally's Weeping Angel photos.
@havoc697
@havoc697 2 жыл бұрын
This aged like fine wine in terms of Village of the Angels
@cyberfox7249
@cyberfox7249 2 жыл бұрын
I really love that episode for that cliffhanger but it dropped the ball
@havoc697
@havoc697 2 жыл бұрын
@@cyberfox7249 big agree mate
@shellstroap515
@shellstroap515 4 жыл бұрын
the way I was terrified to blink watching this whole video
@Deception975
@Deception975 4 жыл бұрын
"I was never scared of the Angels as a kid." My back hurts for some odd reason now.
@Atomicrow
@Atomicrow 4 жыл бұрын
I think the whole Blue Peter thing had some level of merit An Angel that wants to feed off of the potential energy of an important object instead of a person is a neat idea, just a shame it was never really picked up again I'm not sure how the plot would work, but Angels infiltrating a museum to grab an especially important art piece whilst blending in as exhibits is a fun concept that I'm sure someone could make a good plot with. Maybe the plot revolves around the Doctor planning a heist to steal the macguffin before the Angels do?
@SamyulDavis
@SamyulDavis 4 жыл бұрын
As interesting as that idea is, its your one! It didn't want to do that, it wanted to ruin the Olympic games and crush the world's hopes and spirits lmao
@Atomicrow
@Atomicrow 4 жыл бұрын
I guess even when I was younger I wanted the Angel's motivation to not suck and retconned it in my head lmao
@Ben-vf5gk
@Ben-vf5gk 4 жыл бұрын
Everytime I'm reminded that Class was a thing... why couldn't we have had an Ace spin-off ?
@damianbrophy6481
@damianbrophy6481 2 жыл бұрын
Ace appeared in a class big finish story. They fought Daleks.
@Ben-vf5gk
@Ben-vf5gk 4 жыл бұрын
Credit to Moffat for creating one of the only monsters in new who that have become as iconic as the Daleks, Cyberman and Master. I just wish the show used its other new villains more. I get that the Silence were wrapped up in 11's arc so it would be weird if we saw them post Time of the Dr and as much as I love them the Vashta Nerada are about as gimmicky as the angels and only work in certain settings. But I think the Boneless have a lot of potential that we're missing out on.
@SamyulDavis
@SamyulDavis 4 жыл бұрын
If the vashta do have potential, big finish certainly didn't tap into it
@Ben-vf5gk
@Ben-vf5gk 4 жыл бұрын
​@@SamyulDavis I mean fair play to them for trying, I do like the story with 4 but that's the one that does the least new with them.
@menwithven2862
@menwithven2862 4 жыл бұрын
Love the music your using. It’s from damaged goods right? The big finish adaptation. Aaaaa man that’s good one. Any way yeh stone lady’s with grrr face. Love em. Don’t think they’ve had a bad outing. Some much better than others but never wasted. Still don’t think we should have seen them move though. I thought that was a bit stinky.
@menwithven2862
@menwithven2862 4 жыл бұрын
Also it would be very wrong if 10 years from now they did a story we’re all of the statues that got rightfully torn down turned out to be weeping angels? Yes yes it probably would be incredibly distasteful but I couldn’t help thinking of it.
@danieltheboxer2557
@danieltheboxer2557 3 жыл бұрын
Hey great vidz
@Toby_Price
@Toby_Price 4 жыл бұрын
4:56 Oh I know! I loved that series, but man, it was a continuity explosion. Touched by an Angel is honestly one of the best Angel stories in my opinion, as the whole story is just so good.
@DokkaChapman
@DokkaChapman 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for spoiling the 13th comic for me, I'm still waiting for issue 4 to arrive lol.
@SamyulDavis
@SamyulDavis 4 жыл бұрын
Oh, sorry. Did the quarantine interrupt the story?
@DokkaChapman
@DokkaChapman 4 жыл бұрын
@@SamyulDavis Yeah for a couple of months for some. I usually get my issues from Forbidden Planet and the date kept being put back. Not your fault, you weren't to know.
@carealoo744
@carealoo744 4 жыл бұрын
Huh? What did he spoil?
@carealoo744
@carealoo744 4 жыл бұрын
I always wanted to know what would happen if you just threw a blanket over one of them. Would they be able to move, since we're technically not looking at them? Because then we could get a real sense of how they move, and how fast they really are. And if things get really bad, you can just try and poke a hole in the blanket, so that you will see part of them, and they'll freeze.
@stanley5745
@stanley5745 4 жыл бұрын
A Ghost Story for Christmas is a weird creepy little story, I had totally forgotten about it
@EmTom44
@EmTom44 4 жыл бұрын
I remember going to the Doctor Who experience when I was 12 and it was literally the best day of my life!
@godira8180
@godira8180 6 ай бұрын
i remember the time of the angels being the first new who story i can think of i remember sneaking downstairs in the evening and seeing the angels and it scared the hell out of me.
@CodyJBriscoe
@CodyJBriscoe 3 жыл бұрын
They need to do something like A Quiet Place or Bird Box but with The Angels. Like, characters fleeing from a world overrun by Angels, having to come up with designated 'blink safe' areas or something. There's gotta be a writer who can do the idea justice more than one time in 2007.
@rileyrichardson8091
@rileyrichardson8091 4 жыл бұрын
I wanna see the Vashta Nerada again but I'm afraid they'll end up like the weeping angles.
@melindaphantom9450
@melindaphantom9450 4 жыл бұрын
I really stopped caring for them when after they started showing up after Blink, like they are a great idea, like I absolutely love that horror aspect to them, but like anything that is a smash hit you just gotta keep trying to repeat it and just run it into the ground, I feel like they probably work best at small story fodder if they tried to do different aspects of it, like that WW1 story, actually sounds dark and interesting, they really were the last great iconic monster though because I can't think of anything that has been literally everywhere since they first appeared
@williamsluman5298
@williamsluman5298 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking this would be a good video the other day
@XiscoLozdob
@XiscoLozdob 4 жыл бұрын
Lost Angel is just 1h, maybe that's more palatable? I quite enjoyed it. Nothing groundbreaking but a fun little story and a good introduction to two new companions.
@muggs5574
@muggs5574 4 жыл бұрын
Just to reiterate something you mentioned, "The Lost Angel" is genuinely good and does some fun stuff with the angels. Definitely worth renting on a library app and listening to on a drive sometime. It even kicks off a neat little mini-series with unique companions too, and the whole thing is actually pretty enjoyable. Like Big Finish on a budget.
@SamyulDavis
@SamyulDavis 4 жыл бұрын
I started it late last night! Think I fell asleep before anything new or noteworthy happened.
@muggs5574
@muggs5574 4 жыл бұрын
@@SamyulDavis Hah! Well just don't blame me if you end up with some odd dreams. Small Disclaimer: It doesn't do anything particularly groundbreaking, but I do think it's fun to see 12 vs. the Angels and more storytelling competency on display than I was expecting from an audio-only tale. My advice? Just give it a fair shake, but don't expect too much and you might come away with a smile.
@oliverbennett8515
@oliverbennett8515 4 жыл бұрын
Actually Sam I think you’ll find that the weeping angels also appeared in lego Batman 3...I don’t fucking know why but they did
@SamyulDavis
@SamyulDavis 4 жыл бұрын
Goddamn it that would've been funny
@dragonhunter4592
@dragonhunter4592 3 жыл бұрын
_Paradox dust disease that really likes gothic architecture_
@aztecgodhuzluiospd1033
@aztecgodhuzluiospd1033 3 жыл бұрын
2:30 my (2 sort of) fan theorys about the origins of the weeping angels is as follows: 1: the marble plague was a super weapon on Gehanna that got out of control(it’s likely that it is a creation of the gehannan’s seeing that the 12 doctor told the last survivors were there race did wrong implying that they have something to do with the marble storm) 2: the weeping angels were a super weapon created by a extinct(pre space travel) race that were at war, & the weeping angels were genetically modified soldiers that went Insane & reverted back to there primal instincts to survive & killed/turned everyone(they were whether or not they have the ability to turn any image of them into an angel or they somehow evolved that is up to you cause 🎶I can’t decide🎶 But then eventually a ship came to the planet most angels were either already dead or on deaths door when an opportunity arose(at this point let’s just say they have become as intelligent as there creators) they hitched a ride on the ship & when they got desperate enough they killed the entire crew. Over(a very short) time they figured out the ships basic controls & crashed & the nearest populated planet & the rest is history p.s the is still a lot of mystery in this story like how they developed time travel powers & telekinetic powers & the rest, hope you like it😁
@darran311
@darran311 4 жыл бұрын
I was never scared of the Angel's as a kid either because I wasnt a kid anymore when they first came to the show
@JamesMorfa
@JamesMorfa 4 жыл бұрын
I think just turn them invisible for some reason, but keep the quantum lock thing... You still can't blink, but now you don't know where to look either!
@nashwanabila123
@nashwanabila123 4 жыл бұрын
I had wished that a blind 12 would have faced off The Weeping Angels, it would have been Epicness itself.
@nightowl8477
@nightowl8477 4 жыл бұрын
That's genius, I need it.
@nashwanabila123
@nashwanabila123 4 жыл бұрын
@@nightowl8477 to be honest it was an idea suggested by a Whovian on Twitter and since reading the tweet I discovered how cheated we got not having this story. I need it too. :(
@nightowl8477
@nightowl8477 4 жыл бұрын
@@nashwanabila123 - sad thing is, no new adventures can take place when 12 is blind. I guess between Oxygen and Extremis, but that's literally the only space and it can't be too wide. Heaven Sent was originally supposed to be 12 in a haunted house with Angels, but I prefer the Veil.
@EmotionalVortex
@EmotionalVortex 4 жыл бұрын
Someone please make an AU out of this. That sounds awesome
@ParadiseJudge
@ParadiseJudge 4 жыл бұрын
Does Jeff Goldblum disapprove of the weeping angel museum? “Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could not blink, they didn’t stop to think if they should not blink”
@WSDigitalArtwork
@WSDigitalArtwork 4 жыл бұрын
It’s the middle of the night, you wake up in your bed feeling as though someone or something is watching you. You look around and see no one else at all. The only other thing in the room is an old painting of a forest, it looked almost as though there was a figure in the trees. You could’ve swarm in the past the painting was empty. You switch the light on only for it to quickly flicker off. You try again to turn it on but it won’t light up, maybe the power has gone out you think. You turn and realise the figure you saw in the painting is now more visible, it’s a statue. Was it just your Imagination or had it moved. You turn to pick up a lighter when suddenly you feel a chill in the room. There’s a breeze but your windows are all shut the breeze is from behind you, from the painting. You spark up the lighter and see that there is now a stone hand reaching out of the painting. The small flame gets blown out by the breeze and in the darkness you feel a touch more cold than ice, a touch that goes right through you. Then you’re blinded by a flash of lightning and deafened by the sound of rain and waves. You feel your body become submerged in icy water as the waves crash all around you. All alone in the stormy ocean You sink under the waves out of shock.
@thomashall8701
@thomashall8701 2 жыл бұрын
My theory is that the Angels began at the end of the universe and spread backwards in time. When you get sent back in time, you remember what an Angel looks like, and an image of an Angel becomes an Angel. Repeat this process and they infiltrate themselves through history. That explains how they ended up on 21st century Earth without a spaceship and why they appear so soon after the Big Bang.
@theentity5201
@theentity5201 4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed captain jack's ghost story for christmas, it was epic in it's hopeless foreshadowing and that the woman's family is trapped in a bootstrap paradox forever. Just a great short, good on you captain jack, but save that woman will you? You have all the time in the universe
@kuddlykraken2157
@kuddlykraken2157 4 жыл бұрын
NGL I miss the Doctor Who Monster Invasion magazines. Collected the cards too.
@apieceofbitsandpieces342
@apieceofbitsandpieces342 4 жыл бұрын
My weeping angels episode ranking 1: Time Of The Angles (Personal Favorite Of the 11th Doctor era.) 2: Blink (Probably The only Doctor-Lite episode I actually like.) 3: Angels Take Manhattan (A fairly dull episode that’s only saved by compelling drama and my love for Art Deco noir stories.) 4: Flesh and Stone (A disappointing Fallow up with my main complaint being that it’s so forgettable that I’m having trouble remembering what happens in it.)
@WindspriteM
@WindspriteM 4 жыл бұрын
i think, to be fair, one of the reasons flesh and stone is disappointing is because the new gimmick set up in it -an image of an angel becomes an angel -isn't solved in an imaginative way to be honest. Amy trying to get away from the Angels without being able to open her eyes is REALLY scary, but it's undercut by how easily she escapes the situation. The only way to get rid of an angel is apparently to have a crack in space and time or something of the like in handy and make sure they end up in it. That kind of hard-to-defeat position makes it really difficult for follow-up writers to give the characters anything to fend off the angels something -it shouldn't be to foolproof or easy to fend of angels to be sure, but there SHOULD be a solution less brute force than a crack in space and time. Like, maybe an image of an angel doesn't become an angel after all if you don't think about it too much, but the more scared you are of the angels (and consequently think about them), the easier it is for them to manifest.
@cyberfox7249
@cyberfox7249 2 жыл бұрын
Just curious what's ur opinion on the village of the angles
@android8779
@android8779 3 жыл бұрын
i was soo scared of then when i first saw the episode in 2007 i was even scared of the statue in my garden because of this episode
@williamgabriel2245
@williamgabriel2245 2 жыл бұрын
3:51 I'm in love with Jodie's art style. Should I read this comic?
@DWboy14
@DWboy14 2 жыл бұрын
Came back after legend of the sea devils to say we had village of the angels
@ethanwarren7788
@ethanwarren7788 4 жыл бұрын
A strange piece of angel media that I don't think anyone will find. However I remember taking part in an immersive performance of a weeping angel adventure. It started off as a museum about a crashed boat called the elysium then soldiers barged in that the doctor had sent and then matt Smith appeared on various laptops on Skype calls to help you and have banter. They recreated the corridor scene from forest of the dead and still to this day i have no idea how, it terrifies me cause they were real stone statue props no costumes. Then after being sent back in time to the designing of the elysium you save the day and get a 'personal' letter from the 11th doctor. Certainly strange but it was rather excellent, I'd still enjoy it if I did it now
@tardisglitch547
@tardisglitch547 3 жыл бұрын
The reason why class hasn't done anything based on series 2 is because big finish only have the license to make stories which are set during series 1
@DoctorWhoHome1
@DoctorWhoHome1 4 жыл бұрын
I genuinely shat myself whenever the dw experience first opened in London and the weepin angels happened
@SamyulDavis
@SamyulDavis 4 жыл бұрын
That's a big ask for little kids to walk through!
@DoctorWhoHome1
@DoctorWhoHome1 4 жыл бұрын
DAVIS what’s even more embarrassing is I was probably 10 bahahaha
@MultiverseMediaSpace
@MultiverseMediaSpace 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another excellent Broke Cannon, ofcourse the Doctor wouldn't use a normal one. ^_^
@devonhopper7534
@devonhopper7534 4 жыл бұрын
What episode is it with Matt Smith in the blue vortex and the angel shows up and explodes? The clip is in this video.
@carealoo744
@carealoo744 4 жыл бұрын
The weeping angels are apparently set to meet the 4th doctor, in a future 4th Doctor Box-Set! :)
@max12421
@max12421 4 жыл бұрын
In the Doctor Who Experience my brother had to go to one of the Angel's.
@stephenbutterfield8255
@stephenbutterfield8255 4 жыл бұрын
shrek angry
@williamgabriel2245
@williamgabriel2245 2 жыл бұрын
Wait, so the 10th Doctor carried the torch in universe while the actor for the 11th Doctor carried the torch in real life? What the heck?!?
@samuelbarber6177
@samuelbarber6177 4 жыл бұрын
Some people seem to think they're Time Lords from the future.
@bluehero-96
@bluehero-96 3 жыл бұрын
I find the Weeping Angels to be a really weak villain. They can't move while being observed, which is supposed to be a defense mechanism, but should actually be detrimental. A quick swing from a sledgehammer and bye bye angels. The Bad Days cartoon was really good showcasing this.
@Tom-xt1jn
@Tom-xt1jn 3 жыл бұрын
The Silence could've competed with the Angels for a iconic recurring new who villian - butttt then Moffatt tied them directly to the series 5-7 series arcs making them have no point afterwards
@tinykemper2561
@tinykemper2561 3 жыл бұрын
Well we'll see them, or hear them, in Wink with the 6th and 10th Doctor in 2022, which might be fun!
@Aquagreen53
@Aquagreen53 3 жыл бұрын
There was an angel in the very next episode that came out after this video haha
@Brogan_Balfour_Crescent
@Brogan_Balfour_Crescent Жыл бұрын
While they peaked in Blink, I liked what they did in The Time of The Angels and Village of The Angels (besides that one death scene, they have been shown REPEATEDLY to have sent people back more than once 🙄) but seeing them move is what ruined them for me (it didn't make sense they moved so slow despite having been shown to move like lightning earlier and when they were weaker along with still looking like stone which is stated to ONLY happen when looked at and the atrocious The Angels Take Manhattan.
@jordanvalentine7114
@jordanvalentine7114 4 жыл бұрын
There's a fourth doctor vs the angels audio story coming out in a few years time
@jonathanskinner7647
@jonathanskinner7647 4 жыл бұрын
While I do think the silence should of definitely returned outside of Matt's run, the Vashda Nerada are a dead end monster. There's nothing else you can do with them which isn't a repeat of the same story. The one time they tried doing something different it didn't really work and played like a cheesy monster movie. I love them and it's my favourite story but I never wanna see them come back. The Boneless on the other hand....
@ElCidTheScienceKid
@ElCidTheScienceKid 4 жыл бұрын
oi big man, what's that tune you normally use in broke canon videos?
@SamyulDavis
@SamyulDavis 4 жыл бұрын
It's the courtroom music from the beginning of Trial of a Timelord :)
@ElCidTheScienceKid
@ElCidTheScienceKid 4 жыл бұрын
@@SamyulDavis king
@RollMeAFat1
@RollMeAFat1 4 жыл бұрын
i might just be being an idiot but how does river song appear in 8th doctor audios and 10 still doesnt recognise her
@SamyulDavis
@SamyulDavis 4 жыл бұрын
She supposedly wipes every Doctor's memory with her lipstick, but with 8- she was in disguise as a nun and never revealed her name/face enough to recognise.
@2112pk
@2112pk 4 жыл бұрын
10 years late in the game I'm finally watching moffat's run. and i gotta say i think he brought the angels (and river song, in the same episode no less) back far too soon, felt a tiny bit desperate to remind everyone what he wrote before. episode was fine though, just felt a bit much a bit too soon.
@psychicpowersclock
@psychicpowersclock 4 жыл бұрын
I'll always love the Faction Paradox implied origin story for them don't @ me FP makes everything Doctor Who even more batshit and I love it
@SamyulDavis
@SamyulDavis 4 жыл бұрын
I did not know about this! Surprising considering FP's inventor hates Moffat
@psychicpowersclock
@psychicpowersclock 4 жыл бұрын
@@SamyulDavis It's actually a really interesting situation: in pre-NuWho book _"Christmas on a Rational Planet"_ we are shown "Men of Stone" from the universe before ours that cared for the ancient pandimensional mammoths. In the post-NuWho story _"Cobweb and Ivory,"_ the "Men of Stone" reappear as a young Grandfather Paradox finds an "alter-time realm" where they fled with their Mammoth memorabilia, with it being referenced that they've been forced to evolve in order to survive the new laws of physics and are now only able to move when not being observed. Basically, Faction Paradox retconned the pre-universe's "Men of Stone" from _Christmas on a Rational Planet,_ which *predated* _Blink,_ into being the Weeping Angels' direct ancestors. I'm not ashamed to say this ended up inspiring my own story because I'm fandom and this whole story and situation is bonkers.
@Ben-vf5gk
@Ben-vf5gk 4 жыл бұрын
@@SamyulDavis Why does Miles hate Moffat again, I've heard this before but I can't remember the reason
@Ben-vf5gk
@Ben-vf5gk 4 жыл бұрын
@Najawin Well that was enlightening. Wait, what's his problem with Neil Gaiman?
@psychicpowersclock
@psychicpowersclock 4 жыл бұрын
With everything that's been said here, I think the FP Weeping Angel story might be even funnier. Lawrence Miles wrote _Christmas on a Rational Planet,_ the pre-Blink story that featured the pre-universe's "Men of Stone." _Cobweb and Ivory,_ the post-Blink story that retroactively made the Men of Stone the ancestors of the Weeping Angels, was not written by Miles. So you could, if you so wished, spin it that the author of CAI wanted to stick it to Miles in some subtle way for whatever reason and did it by retconning one of Miles own creations into being the beta test for the greatest success of his bitterly despised nemesis, Moffat. I kinda really like that being the reason, it's so petty it's kinda funny. But whatever the reason may be, it doesn't change that _Christmas on a Rational Planet_ and _Cobweb and Ivory_ together form a cohesive, if vague, origin for the Lonely Assassins.
@trinstonmichaels7062
@trinstonmichaels7062 4 жыл бұрын
Trinston was here
@cayden6057
@cayden6057 4 жыл бұрын
The Angels feel like they should've been a one-off villain, like the Midnight Entity or the Vashta Nerada. That's not to say they never should've come back and that I don't want to see another Angel story, but I always felt that _Blink_ was supposed to be their only appearance, but Moffat decided they should probably come back.
@brendanmccabe8373
@brendanmccabe8373 4 жыл бұрын
How long until a story is set in the corona pandemic
@nightowl8477
@nightowl8477 4 жыл бұрын
Was covid actually created by ViNvOcHi???
@purpleraider8105
@purpleraider8105 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like The Angel's could really benefit from animation
@harrietr.5073
@harrietr.5073 4 жыл бұрын
The weeping angels are at their best when their mysterious entities that don't make any sense. They are monstrosities that are, just because they are. Horrific, very horrid.
@RobTFilms
@RobTFilms 4 жыл бұрын
You know that the Class boxsets are set during the one series that there was, right? They're not allowed to explore further.
@SamyulDavis
@SamyulDavis 4 жыл бұрын
which is hilarious in itself
@RobTFilms
@RobTFilms 4 жыл бұрын
@@SamyulDavis they even recast the main characters, mad. haven't listened to it tho
@jamesdunne8504
@jamesdunne8504 3 жыл бұрын
I'm watching this while trying to study for my Christmas science exam. Science fiction is still science, right?
@cptdtinyreaper3697
@cptdtinyreaper3697 2 жыл бұрын
Personally the Weeping Angels are by far my favourite. Bringing them back just like the Daleks and Cybermen isn't gonna ruin the Angels, it's about keeping them as they are. If you add a new ability to them then yes they will stop to be interesting, But keep as they are now and play with just that, we all know a old house with Weeping Angels works just fine, and a Graveyard. There are countless ideas you could do with them.
@johna5635
@johna5635 4 жыл бұрын
"I promise this is not just bad Fan-Fic... ergh... it kind of is - but then, isn't all of it?" - it's a good point when all of "New Who" has been made by [...and much of it has starred] super-fans of Classic Who!
@michaelcarey5083
@michaelcarey5083 4 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget they were in LEGO Dimensions.. I know it’s Lego but still counts
@yuzzem64
@yuzzem64 4 жыл бұрын
I always took them to be some kind of memetic beings created by Thought and belief
@stephenbutterfield8255
@stephenbutterfield8255 4 жыл бұрын
can you make a vid about airplanes being scary
@SamyulDavis
@SamyulDavis 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah man, ill give it a shot
@stephenbutterfield8255
@stephenbutterfield8255 4 жыл бұрын
@@SamyulDavis thanks love
@stephenbutterfield4456
@stephenbutterfield4456 4 жыл бұрын
@@SamyulDavis yes do it
@stephenbutterfield8255
@stephenbutterfield8255 4 жыл бұрын
fly me to the moon baby
@donutdog1937
@donutdog1937 3 жыл бұрын
I may just be stupid but in flesh and stone didn’t the angels fall into the cracks and wouldn’t that make them stop existing
@zedayy5635
@zedayy5635 4 жыл бұрын
I completely forgot Class was a thing
@bradiec6561
@bradiec6561 3 жыл бұрын
Wait so what are you telling me because I’m going back in forth on if I should have them in my doctor who fan series this just made that worse
@stephenbutterfield8255
@stephenbutterfield8255 4 жыл бұрын
Review doctor screw
@garold8222
@garold8222 4 жыл бұрын
I can now die happy
@LibertyBridgeProductions
@LibertyBridgeProductions 4 жыл бұрын
I want the silence back
@samleaburn9346
@samleaburn9346 3 жыл бұрын
Just wait till 2022 when 6th + 10th meet up.
@snakedaemongaming6590
@snakedaemongaming6590 4 жыл бұрын
imagine there was nothing after blink for a moment imagine the statue of angelty never happened, imagine the overuse of angels never happened and angel fatigue didnt happen for 1 moment no new stories, no overuse now imagine class still happened the way it did, the hype for the ending and the droves of fans that would of flocked to it just for that ending would of made it the angels appear in doctor who and are never seen again only to appear in a spinoff and where we can find out more about them more naturally instead of being destroyed by there very creator through overuse, a singular creature could of made the series a success because fans of the angels would actually want to know more but no, its like the daleks cybermen and master today, they are overused but under utilised and the fact is the daleks have never never been better than in the early days of david whittaker in fact the stories are copied today victory of the daleks is basically power of the daleks and evolution is evil the angels will return everything does but whether they are used right is another matter
@pv1612
@pv1612 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I do think angels take Manhattan was good, except for the whole Statue of Liberty thing, and it did a good job of showing that they were intelligent and not just freaky scavengers. But other than that I think yeah, the episodes in series 5 weren’t that great and the concepts introduced weren’t even used effectively. Also even if the writers hadn’t overused them, the twist at the end of class wasn’t satisfying
@lamaahruloma4270
@lamaahruloma4270 11 ай бұрын
H. P. Lovecraft would be proud to see them, Vashta Nerada And Daleks, that are like the Flying Polyps, who fought their own time war with the Great Race Yith.
@stephenbutterfield8255
@stephenbutterfield8255 4 жыл бұрын
ben shrimpo is right about everything
@krissybaglin9206
@krissybaglin9206 2 жыл бұрын
Ummm. The angels aren't a hugely original idea, but they're taken from H P Lovecrafts "The Nameless City". A ruined temple lined with statues of lizards, that move once the lights go out and take away the equally unnamed protagonists.
@detectivebaghead5567
@detectivebaghead5567 4 жыл бұрын
wait is the thirteenth doctor meeting 10 in BLINK canon?
@SamyulDavis
@SamyulDavis 4 жыл бұрын
There is no canon in Doctor Who. It doesn't contradict anything, though.
@BonnieFluff
@BonnieFluff 4 жыл бұрын
Wait does that mean the Nestine in Rose just...kinda showed up because an Angel sent him back there? Oh god are we gonna have to get a Entire History of the Nestine and the Autons?
@SamyulDavis
@SamyulDavis 4 жыл бұрын
10 & Martha are stuck in the 60s, so I think it's likely the Nestene got sent waaay back, maybe even to a pre-plastic age.
@BonnieFluff
@BonnieFluff 4 жыл бұрын
@@SamyulDavis Did they ever establish a time span of how long the irn bru monster was down there? Or how long they live for? Because IIRC the Angels fed off the remaining time span of their victims, (which makes sending 10 back to the 60s weird) meaning that he coulda been there for a while, before 9 shows up and nearly commits a pre-meditated murder.
@castellanofgundabad5
@castellanofgundabad5 4 жыл бұрын
This is probably an unpopular opinion, but i think overexposure kills villains, particularly horror ones. I think the weeping angels mostly work, as long as we never see them again.
@wil2209
@wil2209 4 жыл бұрын
Cancelled harder than Kevin Spacey 😂
@Gamingturtle090
@Gamingturtle090 4 жыл бұрын
What’s the episode at 13:12 ?
@SamyulDavis
@SamyulDavis 4 жыл бұрын
Time of the Doctor
@Gamingturtle090
@Gamingturtle090 4 жыл бұрын
DAVIS Thank you papa
@stephenbutterfield8255
@stephenbutterfield8255 4 жыл бұрын
Six doctor more like doctor who
@jeremysmith9291
@jeremysmith9291 3 жыл бұрын
Newer iterations were progressively ass. But I think alot of new who villains could do with more screentime if handled well, personally I wanna know why max capricorn is a cyborg.
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