you are the most knowledgeable of all gun channels .

He said welcome to 2019 hope you have a good year. I'm watching in 2021 who else misses the good old days.

I welcome the time and effort you put into your videos! Very few other gun channels go into the details the way that you do. One of the things that I find most interesting about rifle comparisons has to do with the design and strength of the receivers and barrel shank parameters and lock-up or engagement with the receivers, to include diameters and threading, as well as the types of steels or other materials that make up the action and locking lug geometries and locking ring surfaces, when those are involved. Obviously, barrel twist and rifling properties and again, the strength (both ultimate and fatigue) as well as wear resistance specifications are significant attributes relative to margins of safety and the life expectancies of both barrel and firearm as a whole. The aforementioned, fatigue strength and potential for possible work hardening of interlocking surfaces, especially where notch sensitivity and lug arrangements can come into play with regard to crack propensity/propagation and brittle vs. ductile responses to overloads, seem to be a seldom mentioned (or engineered) aspect of gun designs and reviews. Thanks again for sharing your thoughts and insights and keep your powder dry!

Greatly informative videos. I’ve been binge watching all of them and from start to finish. Too much knowledge to skip parts. Thank you. I have signed up to support you on Patreon.

i watch your whole videos (9 times out of 10). Not only do i find them interesting and educational, i also like to put your videos on when i need to just relax and forget about the hustle and bustle of modern life. Keep up the good work my friend.

I enjoy watching your videos from beginning to the end there's just so much to learn about guns. Another fact that many people tend to forget in the world of gun making is that companies such as Savage and Mossberg tend to have more experience at building price point guns compared to many other gun companies out there. Long live the Savage 110

Exceptional video. Yours is truly one of the best firearm channels im aware of Thakyou for your content

The folks at Savage have been really reinventing their lineup over the last 20 years. When Savage came out with their upgraded trigger system, it meant that all the other big American rifle makers had to offer better triggers on their guns. Every new gun's trigger had to be higher quality, no more assuming that the buyer would spend time and money either with a gunsmith or simply buying an aftermarket, premium system. Many of the Savage guns recently developed have pushed other manufacturers to improve their lines also. In the 50's and 60's, you could glance at a car and tell what is was 3 blocks away. Nowadays though, it's much harder to tell because, as car companies chase the elusive higher mpg, aerodynamics dictate a single design for maximized efficiency. Gun designs are following a similar pathway towards accurate and base cost as shown in these two rifles. At some point, I'd imagine much more of the metal being replaced by more and more sturdier polymer components. Yep, I remember when everyone laughed at the plastic Glocks; today, virtually every handgun maker produces a polymer pistol. Our grandkids may look back at the Axis and 783 and wonder how we managed to get by without polymer rifles... LOL! Happy 2019!

USOG, I also sat through and watch the entire video and find it very thorough and well informed, only issue I am having now is finding a Savage 110 that fits my budget considering all the ones on the Savage website is $650.00 and higher.

Appreciate your great reviews on rifles

Thank you for including the Savage 110 in this presentation. There is much to like about it. That vintage 110 with a wood stock makes me envious. I'm with you on iron sights. Savage does sell their Hog Hunter series series with iron sights. In early 2019 Savage did upgrade the Axis series stocks so they are made a little more rigid, more like the 110 polymer stock.

Excellent approach to comparing rifles. Thank you for your knowledge and honesty.

None bias and informative! Well done sir

Just found your channel. Subbed,seems like some really interesting content. Thanks!

I watched my father shoot a ton of bear, elk, and deer over the years with a savage 110 in 7mm mag. My Grandfather nicknamed that rifle "Black Death." I bought a 783 in 30-06 last season because it reminded me so much of that 7mm. I nicknamed my 783 "Black Mamba." Now I know why I like the 783, it is so similar to his old 110 with a better trigger. Thanks for the memories and comparison. Keep up the fabulous work.

Thanks for another wonderful video.

What makes the Savage 110 and the entire series of rifles accurate is not the rifle design so much as their in house production of barells. The method of rifling combined with much hands on steps produces one of the best in house production barells. But the real secret is the by hand tweaking of the barell to eliminate any flaw that does not make the barell as straight as possible. This is done by hand. Looking down the bore at a light source a skilled smith can see if any shadow rings are present indicating where a bend or, off center of the of the bore axis occurs. Locatating this the barell is then put in a three point manually operated press at eye level facing a light source and a finely threaded adjustment wheel is turned giving compression to the affected area of the barell.until there is no shadow ring visible in the interior of the barell. This is a highly skilled process which takes quite some time to master, but is the best way to produce nearly perfectly straight bores. This is very old school but seems to be the absolute best way to ensure concentricity of the bore. Most manufacturers rely solely on the CNC machines they use to achieve this but come up short. Way to go Savage !!!

I really enjoy your videos you're very informative I value your opinionI'm alot like you I'm old school I have a hard time adjusting to the black rifles

Totally agree on the iron sights point.

Watch the whole thing. Never fast forward, never reverse. :-). Great video. Learned a lot. I will search for a 110! See how much trouble you cause!!!! :-)

Great reviews!!

Mate thanks so much for your informative and detailed reviews especially on bolt action rifles as here in Australia this is what we mostly shoot with cause of our terrible laws . Please keep the videos coming on budget friendly bolt action rifles as most of us in Oz can only afford these black plastic rifles 😊 as prices start from around $650AUS for one of these budget rifles if on sale . If you could please review the mauser m18 if possible that would be much appreciated . Thanks again , love your work all the best for 2019 .

I opted for the Savage Trophy Hunter XP with Nikon scope in 308 and a Mossberg Patriot with walnut stock in 30 06.

I love my Axis 7.62x39 and it has been one of the rifles I have shot the most over the past 2 months. It’s very lightweight, I even removed the factory scope rail and just used its Peep iron sights, which consistently hit 2MOA at 100 yards. Although its bolt is not a Mauser style control feed, the bolt action is very smooth. I don't regret getting it for $900 CAD. If it hadn't occasionally misfired, I would definitely be hunting with it. I checked the corresponding solution from the Internet, but I'm not sure whether it will work.

I have watched this video a couple of times. I own two axis. I'm so done with plastic stocks. They both operate good and are accurate. I just like the look and feel of a wood stock. Like all your videos. Watch them all more than once from start to finish.

A friend has the Savage mod 110 Tactical in cal 30.06, he changed the trigger and stock , the rifle shots below 0.75 moa at 100meters , a very durable and fine rifle . Usually the Savage have good barrells , the accuracy is 1moa at 100meter , totally ok fore a hunting rifle.

My black Remington 783 delivered a nice 3 point / 6 point buck yesterday. It's lightweight and accurate. I'll be out for antlered moose and bull elk this weekend.

Great video

one of my biggest regrets is selling my savage chieftain (i think that was the name) in 7 x 57. the light recoiling 7 x 57 and 7-08 offer sectional densities of about .240 in a 140 gr bullet, while you must bump up to 165 grs in 30 cal and slightly heavier in the 8 x 57. excellent info as usual!

The 110 is an awesome platform, the Axis , IMHO and I have 2 , with Timney triggers and Boyd's stocks are subject to modifying to suit . Very accurate and well priced for the average shooter. The major weakness I have found is the magazine, cheap and weak design . Very expensive to replace as well. I have only 1 Remington, a 788 with a Timney trigger that solved all it's problems . For me it's time to downsize everything in the safe and get OLD in some home . Savage through the years , has been Good to me. Thanks for your videos I enjoy watching and can relate to your interests.

I have quite a few firearms by many manufacturers, but my savage 110 in 243 that I bought new for $197.00 when I was a kid is probably my most accurate rifle that if I had to have a bullseye with 1 shot my life depending on it, this would be the rifle I would pick up to use with confidence.

You are a trouble maker. I will go bankrupt trying to acquire all these fine rifles you review! Lol The 110 is an outstanding rifle. I just picked up a pre accutrigger, wood stock 110 in .243. Very good condition. It drives tacks. Gotta love pawn shops this time of year! Thanks for another excellent video! Happy new year! -Matt

With forward locking lugs I don't see how closing up the action would make the rifle more accurate. I have heard the 110 is a very good, accurate design. Wood stocks are my preference. I watch your entire video, I like your articulate and reasoned presentation.

Great comparison!

i like your knowledge and your Modesty. :)

regarding your comment about removable magazines: I see them as a convenience not because I can carry multiples of them, but because they are removeable. In Canada you aren't allowed to have a loaded firearm in a vehicle. This means no ammo in the gun at all. A removeable magazine makes it very easy to pop the magazine out, hop in the truck, drive to the next hunting spot and pop it back in again. No fumbling with shells, no shells getting dumped on the floor when you release the floorplate, and no shells being chambered if you have to cycle them to get them out. This also makes loading the gun very quick if you happen to see a coyote while checking cows! However, I wish the quality of magazines was better, I can't see the little plastic tabs lasting 25+ winters. Thanks for another good video

Thanks for the video. I really want a 110 iron sights now. Do you happen to know if it was made left handed? I'm going to look it up now but just wanted to leave a comment for you haha thanks.

While visiting the gun shops I've been drawn to the the wood version of these two budget rifles. The Savage Axis has a hardwood stock and can be bought for $350 with a Bushnell , and the 783 has a walnut stock which is a bit more $400 without a scope. However... the 783 walnut with a vortex crossfire ii can be picked up for 500 bucks! Both look so much better in wood vs plastic my honest opinion. Thanks for sharing this wonderful video!

Wonderful video showcasing some of the evolution and unfortunate cost of new bolt rifle design. After seeing this, I'm even more thankful for the wood stock on my gun. It's a funny thing...cheap doesn't bother us on many things, but it just feels so wrong on a bolt gun. Also, the comment on ironsights is a timely one in this scope/benchrest obsessed culture...the culture of sniping has eclipsed hunting in many ways.

The closed up opening on the Remington for empty case extraction is to strengthen the action and make it stiffer for more accuracy and consistentcy .

Im on the fence right now.. buying my first long range bolt action rifle this week (more for the purpose of learning long range precision shooting as opposed to hunting) and currently my 3 top options right now are: Savage 110 Engage Hunter XP 22" barrel with scope combo - in .308 Remington 783 Tactical 24" Heavy Barrel Threaded - in .308 Ruger American Standard 22" barrel in .308 All 3 of these rifles are roughly in the same price range - which one would you suggest? Personally, I am strongly leaning towards getting the Remington 783 HBT in .308 Some people have also told me that they feel the Savage 110 platform is just a superior platform while all of the others like the Remington and Ruger are all pretty much based off of the Savage Axis platform of rifles. Yours and anyone else's personal advice would be most welcomed.

2019... yeah it would be nice to be back there, indeed.

Great vid. the 110 is much more like one of my Stevens 200's. I should have bought a Stevens 200 in every caliber offered. $300Cdn was a good deal. The new Axis is no where near as nice. Stevens 200 was also a 3 position safety unlike the axis.

I own an Axis in .223 cal. Quality is poor when comparing to a Savage 110. Nothing but problems with the plastic cased magazine. Accuracy is about average for a $250 rifle, meaning not really great. I have previously owned a Axis in .243 also. I couldn't do better than 2 inch grouping with that rifle. I traded for a T/C Venture in 243 and it was far better accuracy. I can't complain, and I actually brag about the Savage 110s that I have owned. All have been excellent shooting rifles. I had a 270 cal that was built in 1962 that was a fantastic shooting gun once I figured out the best loads. I suppose the best that I can say of the Axis is that it is an acceptable hunting firearm within it price range. Also, thanks for your informative videos, I look forward to all of them.

Thanks for these very detailled explanations. I have a 116 in 30-06. No accutriger no détachable magazine but blind magazine and synthetic stock. Do not know its 😮😮history It is extremey accurate. If I had it before I would not have purchased my Tikka.

Thanks for informative. I have Savage XP .65 creedmoor. Commo color. I just order savage 110 engaged hunting.308 after watching your video. California is to hard looking rifle only order Bro bass. Thanks again for very special video

Can you convert a Savage axle into 338 lapua savage?

Thank you Sir

You are right. If you want a wood stock better buy one now as they sure seem to be going away. Never thought I would see a plastic stocked Weatherby. Poly stocks have as much soul as a piece of plastic water line.

Was the savage 110 heavy barrel ?

Nice video thanks lots of informations . I maybe would like gettin a little more talkin about the 783 . Seems like sir you are a real fan of Savage arms rifles 😉

amen to iron sights. we often forget the days when many more rifles had these. much less to go wrong, and if the scope's acting up, broken or loose, you just have to get a little closer (assuming the iron sights are still "on"). i don't think i want a rifle with the recoil lug in the stock, as i am far too old to take a beating from a barreled action seeking revenge. excellent work by as always!

The Savage Axis with the varmint barrels are superbly accurate with modified (lightened) or Accutrigger models with reloads and a quality scope. Half inch or better groups at 100 yards are the norm in.22/250 and 243.Cheers.

Any plans for the Thompson Center Compass? 5R BARREL AND SUB MOA GUARANTEE

I have an AXIS II and a Patriot and my son has a 783. The two things I HATE about the AXIS II are the bolt lift effort at the very top of the lift (I put a glades armory handle on there PLUS a $30 ebay bolt lift lightening kit and it's much better and still harder than any other bolt action I've ever used. The other thing I hate is the magazine. The lips are so close together it hurts to load the thing. I've never had this on another bolt action and the mossberg patriot mag is plastic but it is super wide and easy to load and holds five rounds. The bolt is smooth enough and 359 gets you a patriot with cerakote. My favorite budget rifle. The 783 is also acceptable if you turn down the trigger weight and put a good scope on it like a crossfire II. The stock scope is horrible. The mossberg doesn't come with a scope so you have to put a scope on anyway and the axis came with a bushnell banner which is acceptable but not as clear as the crossfire II. I could learn to live with the mag and my bolt lift is much much less at the top of the lift now but still, wow that's just crazy how hard it is on a stock gun. You literally have to force the last part of the stroke upward.

I believe one of the reasons they are moving to making receivers with a more shrouded receiver ejection port is to reduce the possibility of foreign debris entering into the action.

I have a 110FP in .308 with a synthetic stock. This stock is quite rigid. I have an Axis II in .270 and that stock is pretty flimsy, but it still works ok. Good for a rainy day in the woods, anyway. The Axis II does about .6 MOA, so that's pretty OK for a $450 rifle including the scope. The 110FP does about .25 MOA with the right ammo, despite having a worse trigger than the Axis II(the 110FP was also $450, but that was a long time ago and didn't include the scope). I like them both plenty well. This year I'll probably be using my 1955 model 99 in .300 Savage as my primary hunting rifle with the Axis II back at the cabin in case I hurt the 99. I do wish the bolt guns had a three position safety since I get weary reaching back to make sure the bolt handle isn't wandering out of battery every time I go through some brush. The 110 FP is too heavy and unbalanced for carrying in the woods, as it has a target profile barrel and I have a harris bipod on it.

Savage makes a great barrel.They are very accurate right out of the box.

I get what people are saying about soul, it's like the difference between a Colt 1911 and a Glock 17. On the other hand, some people like both and the Glock has some advantages. Of course Savage is doing everything to make the Axis cheap but the closed top action prevents the receiver from getting bent if you send it to a bad gunsmith for rebarreling or maybe fall on it in the field. As a side effect it also creates a better base for scope mounting since less flex means the scope will maintain better alignment when you are loading up against a rest or bipod. The longer rear tang of the more traditional rifles does probably make for a more stable connection between the action and stock but that might just give the stock a bigger lever to twist the receiver when it's loaded up. The Axis recoil lug is weird but some people cut the front of the Axis action with a lathe so they can change to a 110 style lug. To me, I see the Axis as a rifle that starts off a bit weird and clunky but can make a budget custom that can shoot with almost anything short of a $$$ benchrest rifle. The 783 might get there but it's playing catch up. On average, I think the Savage barrels seem to shoot better than Remington out of the box so if you are going to leave it alone, that still points to Savage for me, even if the Remington has some nice looking features. Both companies have uncertain futures with Remington seeking bankruptcy protections and Savage being sold. Things will be changing so if you want an Axis for a project, it's probably a good time to buy now. Remington has a bit of a history of discontinuing budget rifles after the 700 so the 783 might become one of those if things take a bad turn. I'm not sure if it's a good idea as a project and with it's lack of soul, I wouldn't collect it. This might be the high water mark for low end bolt action rifles. I can't see them getting much cheaper without really lowering material quality and with big companies having trouble, I expect prices to go up across the board with consumer demand eventually bringing the sales numbers back at higher prices.

The 783 stock does twist easily. But then again so do most cheaper and even many intermediate priced guns. What I think many forget is that the only bit of the stock that matters with twisting is between the mounting lugs. On the 783 the barrel doesn't contact the barrel so twisting matters little forward of the front mounting lugs. I shoot a 783 in 300 win mag and yes, not an amazing stock, but certainly doesn't affect accuracy for the price.

My savage axis bolt is stuck i cant pull it back cause of lil pin that’s supposed to be sitting back but i moved up and doesn’t let me pull back to fix.

What I should of said is the baffle and lug, ejector and extractor are identicle

I know this video is a little old.. But I just wanted to point out that all Three of the rifles use the same barrel wrench and can easily accept aftermarket custom barrels (threaded for each barrel shank size) using a Go gauge and masking tape for setting headspace. This makes them very cost effective for using as a starting action for a custom build. The Savage 110's will have the "worst" feeling bolt as it relies on the rear of the receiver to guide the bolt, and when running it without proper movement.. you can cause it to "pinch" or "bind" up. All three cock the striker on the up turn of the bolt. There is aftermarket support to put any of them in chassis` with detachable magazines. Another note is that they all use the same Ejector and Extractor size on the bolt head. All quality guns for the money. The New RemArms is taking Quality Assurance serious again.

I wish you had pulled the bolt on the 783 and laid it down beside the other two. They seem similar in my memory.

Is the 110 barrel and Axis barrel interchangeable?

My savage 110 bolt is identical to that axis bolt. How old is that 110?

It is very interesting to me how gun manufacturers are getting rid of steel components wherever possible... yet the two examples of "modern" gun making go to the trouble of adding extra steel to the receiver with the closed ejection port. The added 'rigidity' of those closed ejection ports are unlikely to ever be noticed by the probable end-users: budget hunters. They will never notice the extra 0.05 MOA of accuracy those rigid receivers give them so it kind of confounds me as to why the Axis and 783 have these closed ports like that. Also, people these days see Savage as a company that just builds somewhat chintzy budget hunting rifles. If you look into their history they were really a groundbreaking and innovative company in many regards who, in many ways, created the modern gun industry with their brilliant engineering and designs.

To tell the truth Im scared to buy any of these cheaper / lower end guns. Im sure they work fine but i rather save my money for a little better gun. Great video. Thanks

I hear tell that Savage has a bit of a nasty reputation for “cheapness”. It took me quite a while to find out exactly what the problem was since nobody who shot one could complain about the accuracy or sturdiness. Turn out it has mostly to do with aftermarket chassis, triggers and other goodies. Savage changes their screw pattern and bolt layup and general layout. This makes it hard to produce for, since they would need many more products to support. Additionally since the rifles are quite inexpensive and they shoot lights out, they are rarely modified so the customer base is very small and thus poorly supported. So that’s most of the reason for their bad reputation and the dirty looks you occasionally get from the salesman at the gun store.

I have both a savage axis and a Remington 783. Axis all day long. Two days ago I had a 8 pointer in my scope which was hard enough to find with the crap scope the 783 came with. But the gun didn't fire good ammo. Axis is the way to go.

justamente estoy viendo cual de estos dos rifles me conviene más , ¿alguien podría traducir al español , aunque sea una parte de la nota? gracias.

This was the Savage show..

I'm a Ruger guy but all the guns you have in this video are very good, capable, rifles that are worth a chance by everyone.

my axis in 223 shoots 2-3'' groups at 3oo yards with my handloads and timiny trigger .. good enough for a factory eco-rifle .. hep plastic stock sucks but i have a wood one coming ..so alls good but plastic is good in hunts in the rain and banging around nicks, scrapes ,.no worrys ..

Got axis in 223 cant get it to shoot 1.5 groups factory load or hand loading

He seems very partial to the older rifles in these videos which is what I’d expect from a collector. I have my doubts the older rifles are actually shooting more accurately than these newer breeds. I’m seeing heavier actions and heavier barrels coming on these newer rifles which are all going to contribute to rigidity and weight out front reducing muzzle rise. While they’ve gone from finely crafted hand made guns to mass produced, overall I think a lot of these changes are improving the important aspects of the bolt action platform. Get a wood stock version of the new ones and they’ll probably outshoot the old dog.

The rifles are all becoming similar because all the patents from the 40s, 50s and 60s are run out. All the makers are now pulling in any detail they like from various other makers and combining them.

Just what I see the 110 was made in 74 that should have a 110-c meaning it has a magazine with bottom loading

Good job. Would like to see a similar comparison between classic bolt guns.

Have the mod 340 savage 3030 it's old but shoots good .

I have a Dick's Special Savage VT 11 308 and love it. Very accurate.

They close them the top action because we don't need to stick owner fingers in it and shove the rounds to the top not anymore their magazine fed from the bottom. Keep less Dirt from going in the chamber. Thad what I was told.🤨🤔

Watching the firearms industry going down hill over the years to sell firearms at a cheap price is hard being that I'm 63 years old I prefer wood and steel and I prefer steel pistols also with all these firearms going to mim parts and plastic everybody seems to be fine with it though.

Hi Mike, I have to laugh sometimes about the modern BIC lighter rifles. During Covid Cdn Tire had a rem 783 in 243 on final sale for $199 cdn. I needed a cheap 243 for deer hunting on a really gnarly piece of a woodlot we own. The deer bury themselves into this junk and if you want to hunt them you gotta go in. To take wooden rifle in there would be disaster for it. So bought this hunk of junk 783. Put a scope and cheap rings on. Take it to the range with a box of Core-Lokts and this rifle shoots .5MOA in 3-5 shot groups. Most accurate rifle I own for the price of a scope. Go figure. I got laughed at deer camp from my Sako snob buddies. This ugly duckling outshoots them all.

Savage has always built reasonably accurate rifles, so has Remington. I just prefer purchasing what I would term a legacy firearm, like the ones my grandfather passed on to me 40 years back. They all are still reliable and get used on a frequent basis. Randy Wakeman wrote in 2016.... The weak point of many centerfire rifles is the stock. How can one blame a firearm manufacturer for using a few cents of melted milk jug and ground up garbage can material, instead of selected, cured, and machined walnut, if the customer is too ignorant to understand the difference? The term "bedding" is used quite loosely. For example, the pillar bedding bragged about in Savage rifles is not bedding at all, nor are there pillars; they are merely tubes. Nor does bedding make great sense when the stock material being bedded to excessively flexible. When a barreled action moves around in a stock, a high level of repeatable, long-term, all-weather accuracy should not be expected. His article is on Chuck Hawks site.

How come everyone complains how the triggers are what is going on with them. Everyone wants to trigger at one or two pounds so when they drop the gun at fires. Target yes hunting no I'v see 👀 people shoot there horse and other people dropping the rifle.

i agree, plastic stocked rifles, have no soul.

Hinged floorplate is best. Detachable magazines are for kids and road hunters.🇨🇦🤠

I have an Axis and it's crap. It shoots, but it's as crude, cheap and flimsy as it can be. It's way overpriced when you consider what it is and I have never held such a poor quality rifle. I really wish I would have never wasted the money on it. I'm glad I learned that I could buy a used, quality rifle for almost the same money.

I refuse to own a rifle with a polymer bolt.!

wow wow no safety check for the camera

axis is a cheap gun that was drawn from a real rifle the 110. the 110 saved savage. original 110 had no floor plate had a blind mag.

Polymer saftey? Call it what it is, plastic, plastic garbage.

Trying to enjoy your video but it is interupted by so many political hate ads I cannot watch it sorry.

Savage 110 is the best bang for the buck.