What kind of bizzaro world do we live in where the two best enthusiast "economy car" options on the market are a $70,000 Civic or a $50,000 Corolla? Literally what the fuck.
@billisdewillis5 Жыл бұрын
Clown world for sure…same world that believes we should be all battery in 12 years.
@nich5696 Жыл бұрын
The world of CUVs
@AD-lf9ck Жыл бұрын
Buy mazda 3 turbo. That's a closet you can get for your wish
@ktakashismith Жыл бұрын
@JD B Screw it, I'm taking the bus to work. I'd rather have a friendly chat with the crackheads than get vaporized by an EV Hummer.
@prs314 Жыл бұрын
They can make it for cheaper, but the environmental regulations basically prohibits them from selling too many. This it's not Toyota's fault, it's voters for voting the way they did.
@JimboJason Жыл бұрын
You guys talking to the engineers behind these vehicles, and putting them on a lift to explain the under body hardware combined with an extensive real world driving impressions is what sets this channel above the rest. Thanks for a great review fellas!
@DB-sd3cw Жыл бұрын
Crazy D riding
@DragonKnightX12 Жыл бұрын
@@DB-sd3cw Nah he's right. SG throws together a quality and informative video, instead of blabbing on about bullshit like "quirks and features" to entertain the kiddos.
@DB-sd3cw Жыл бұрын
@@DragonKnightX12 insane D riding again
@dejan. Жыл бұрын
That’s just a freely available Motomachi related video, it’s not customized for these guys. They just have foresight to include it as an educational piece because most people watching this will have no clue about the GR production line.
@mr.prezzy Жыл бұрын
@@DB-sd3cw nah i like sg reviews more. They seem more professional and have more raw data in them. The only person who compares is daddy doug.
@purpleflurp6601 Жыл бұрын
Definitely want a long term series on this car!
@richardnavratil9661 Жыл бұрын
Dude long term comparison between this and Mark's CTR would be fantastic.
@mengx94 Жыл бұрын
Long term, "yea the car is fine; 19k miles no issues, 25k miles on the fl5 in 5 years" smh
@pchae1 Жыл бұрын
@@mengx94 I'd still watch it.
@mengx94 Жыл бұрын
Same. Just a spiteful watch from me 😆
@tonycoughlin9256 Жыл бұрын
100% please do a long term on this
@MatthewGaither Жыл бұрын
I would love too see you guys do a long-term ownership series on this car. I would find that to be very interesting as you do some modifications and upgrades.
@altimax98 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I second this, I’d also love to see a deep dive comparison between the CTR and this. How does the better refinement of the CTR stack up against the more raw focused GRC.
@aprtur Жыл бұрын
I'll add a third to this. Mark having the CTR as a comparison point would make this a fantastic car to do an owner series on - Japanese hot hatches from the two big manufacturers, and how they hold up over time
@mrs_radrod Жыл бұрын
Agreed. This is a car I’d like to buy in the future but I’ve been burned by the BRZ/FRS platform. I’d love to really see what this car is like to live with.
@altimax98 Жыл бұрын
@@mrs_radrod being it’s built on the E210 Corolla which is a pretty great platform + the 1.6l is tried and tested, it’s probably going to be pretty great. You’ve just got to get past the part that it isn’t nearly the size of the Civic. It’s a large coupe, not a small wagon. Once prices drop and are more readily available my 2022 XSE 6MT gets traded in lol
@JimboJason Жыл бұрын
@@aprtur I agree Mark being an owner of a CTR would some great comparison points.
@jessemanley5698 Жыл бұрын
Imagine being a little kid and riding around in the back of one of these in your booster seat as your dad rips is around some backroads 😂
@mmr0221 Жыл бұрын
What dad 😢
@mynameIan Жыл бұрын
This was exactly my thought when I saw this announced for the North American market. I’d love to have one and pass it down to my kids so they can learn to drive properly. Will just have to last 12+ years. As an 80s kid from the UK, small hatchbacks and country roads are what childhood memories are made of. Bring back the useful hot hatchback market!
@BrodeyDoverosx Жыл бұрын
Yeah. You definitely need to do an ownership series.
@ghost21501 Жыл бұрын
I had a tuned 06 WRX as my daily for a few years. My 5 year old girl loved it. We live in a rural area, so a lot of back roads.
@singular9 Жыл бұрын
My dad
@ryanl.1362 Жыл бұрын
Didn’t expect you guys changed your opinion on this car. I wasn’t so excited to see more vids from you guys after watching the first drive, but after watching this one, I would say go for it. Make a long term ownership. I want to see now.
@gaivoron Жыл бұрын
Even at $36k base is a tough pill to swallow. Damn, prices are just out pacing income.
@Sammy_X7 Жыл бұрын
@Nomen Clature It should be around $32,000.
@francisgomes9976 Жыл бұрын
No way you would find one for $35k.. for the base model its 50k
@v0mdragon Жыл бұрын
Toyota will sell out of this model/trim. If anything, that means it's underpriced
@tomjoad8272 Жыл бұрын
@@francisgomes9976 I found a few on auto trader just now listed in the 35-38k range, but most were 60k. Which is insane.
@sesh3508 Жыл бұрын
Dude, my 2022 Accord Sport 2.0T was $38k! That’s why I’m leasing it 🤣 Being a dad calls for a proper dad car but near $40k is just crazy
@erikdavenport Жыл бұрын
Standing in solidarity watching this Takumi masterpiece while wearing my Patagonia 🫡
@MrSchn3ll Жыл бұрын
Drinking a soy latte as well?
@erikdavenport Жыл бұрын
@@MrSchn3ll trying out the chai latte that goose raves about. So far I’ve been able to stay off the porcelain throne
@y.b.- Жыл бұрын
Kirkland Signature is also approved !
@erikgonzalez2278 Жыл бұрын
Everyday my brother I have my Patagonia always in the car in my common man Corolla with my soy chai tea iced latte!
@_chipchip Жыл бұрын
Thanks you for your service / costco membership
@CoreyZ232 Жыл бұрын
As a 220 pound, 6' silverback myself, I always wear my matching Patagonia pullover to live vicariously through Jack on Friday mornings. I can't wait to drive one of these. Thank you for the great breakdowns as always, it's very appreciated!
@staza6373 Жыл бұрын
Hard to believe that a Toyota Corolla is a rare sports car that costs a small fortune
@Syncopia Жыл бұрын
The absolute state of the automotive market.
@dragospahontu Жыл бұрын
@@Syncopia the Golf R is expensive but no one complains.
@SIIKAP1 Жыл бұрын
@@dragospahontu at least the Golf R has a good interior (minus the lack of physical buttons) and trajectory lines on backup cam.
@dragospahontu Жыл бұрын
@@SIIKAP1 I'll give you the trajectory lines. A backup cam with no trajectory lines is useless
@Aaron-hl1rl Жыл бұрын
Same for the civic right? Type R 40k, hell no
@Terryrouge427 Жыл бұрын
I would love to see a long term comparison since Mark already has a Type R. I think it would be great!
@patcunnane1 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the explanation of the AWD system. Engineering Explained had a good video about it but I didn't realize how much software was controlling the bias and even switching to FWD mode for straights. Makes a lot of sense. Great stuff. I bought a core with diffs a month ago and it's a very fun car.
@Vermonstered Жыл бұрын
Even the older Evo AYC AWD system has lots of software intervention. Car would go 100% FWD in every turn multiple times to prevent understeer because the front wheels travel a larger arc than the rear wheels. This is also why differential based AWD systems, like the Subaru system always was heavily biased toward understeer. Because the system has no way of decoupling the front and rear differential.
@LouisSubearth Жыл бұрын
There's another video of GR Corolla on a liftand the guy identified the rear diff as the same as the one in the RAV4, so that explains the low thermal dissipation of it compared to a more expensive and purpose designed unit they could've used instead.
@artilleryisbetter Жыл бұрын
@@Vermonstered **canbus not software
@Vermonstered Жыл бұрын
@@artilleryisbetter CANBus is simply the communication protocol Mitsubishi used. It's still all driven by software and why you can datalog and flash once any of these control modules are cracked.
@wesleyrice2138 Жыл бұрын
Please share the video for us to see, thanks
@jonasl1178 Жыл бұрын
100% yes on the long term ownership series, especially as someone considering one as the somewhat attainable performance daily driver
@romanofrau Жыл бұрын
I’d love a long-term ownership video!
@dannyphamous Жыл бұрын
Yes same!
@valvodka Жыл бұрын
They don't own one
@ZackNakazora1 Жыл бұрын
One thing I like about this channel and the hosts is the ability to post reflect on experiences for what happened and change opinions based on use case. Track experience they arent so "golly wow'd" by the car or event like so many other journalists, and they can seperate their initial impressions when they get time to drive the car and change or modify or reinforce their ideas about it.; its one reason among many Savagegeese as a brand is my go to channel for new cars.
@j.redbeard99 Жыл бұрын
Not a car for me, but the GR Corolla is the attainable [at MSRP] dream car for some others, and I hope they can obtain one. Another excellent review from Savage Geese as always.
@Carlos.Rivera Жыл бұрын
Asked dealerships, $60k out the door
@nsh1980 Жыл бұрын
@@Carlos.Rivera my enthusiasm really shrivels in the cold water of a 60k price tag.
@ldsiverling Жыл бұрын
@@Carlos.Rivera lmfao. A recession can't come soon enough.
@Carlos.Rivera Жыл бұрын
@@nsh1980 for a corolla, I pass. Would rather get a used mustang gt350
@Ripperx121 Жыл бұрын
60k?!?! No thanks I have my local Toyota dealer quoting me less on a Supra 3.0 MT. 58k out the door for that. This is a specialty thing more than the GR86 and the Supra.60k is a 9k markup. You don't need to do that. You can find Toyota dealers that will do MSRP. I paid MSRP last spring for a GR86 while some dealers were trying to get 40k for it. No don't do that you will get screwed in the end big time.
@sveeny Жыл бұрын
I have a GR Yaris and am a HUGE Savagegeese Fan. So I guess this is the closest I'll get to a GR Yaris review from you guys. Looking forward to watching this! 🙂
@pieswimmer1 Жыл бұрын
The yaris is so much cooler
@Mr.Thermistor7228 Жыл бұрын
you got the better car 100%, thats clearly obvious cause you dont see toyoytas rally team racing the corolla lol theyre racing the yaris, that says it all right there
@Pumpkinfish12 Жыл бұрын
If you live close to them, see if they can review your car for the channel.
@matthewp9015 Жыл бұрын
@@Pumpkinfish12 the Yaris isn’t sold in North America, so that would be tricky….
@Big_Red1 Жыл бұрын
@@matthewp9015 I believe it is sold in Mexico, I recall Doug Demuro doing a review of it.
@mistamaog Жыл бұрын
I always love seeing the factory clips, reminds you of how difficult and complex these things are, and makes you appreciate the workers more
@oi32df Жыл бұрын
and appreciate that we don't have the 2 door Yaris gr instead of a 4 door car.
@mengx94 Жыл бұрын
Ty jidoka slave workers
@Dbati Жыл бұрын
I have almost 2000 miles on my GR Corolla and I have to say you guys really nailed the description of the car and engine’s character. This is a very different engine in today’s world where in most modern turbo engines, torque comes on in the low end at like 2000-2500 rpm. On the GRC you really do have to wring it out to 4000+ and when you do, the surge is satisfying. But it’s a big part of the car’s character and why it feels specials. It’s why I really enjoy mine especially on the daily drive. And when I don’t feel the need to drive like a maniac it’s very tame and feels like an NA engine outside of boost. I was also able to get 34 mpg on a 116-mi drive, so there’s that too.
@dejan. Жыл бұрын
A tuning box can easily resolve that. I ran a DTUK on my GR Yaris for nearly 2 years and it had a bunch more pull from low down.
@aarons1350 Жыл бұрын
Pls do long-term ownership perspective. Comparisons with type r and sti would be cool. How is steering feel compared to the hydraulic rack on the sti. Are the controls as raw as the sti overall
@aygwm Жыл бұрын
It’s probably a better car overall than the STI. Subarus are pretty trash
@grahamhaynes7658 Жыл бұрын
I've got a GR yaris,the steering isn't as good as the 06 jdm sti I had previously.Overall a better car and quicker point to point though.
@ktakashismith Жыл бұрын
Last I checked Subaru doesn't sell an Impreza STI anymore...
@Jaime7188 Жыл бұрын
I would absolutely love to have one of these GR Corollas. In a world that every car has had the driving pleasure and emotion removed, it is a blessing to see Toyota is still making cars for the enthusiast.
@thomaschristopherwhite9043 Жыл бұрын
Holy shit an ownership series would be fantastic. What better car to do it with than this? I'm really curious as to what that new high powered 3 cylinder is hiding.
@theredsalmon612 Жыл бұрын
What should you buy instead?
@philspaghet Жыл бұрын
@@RageAgainstTheStreet bruh the GR Yaris has been fairly reliable
@DragonKnightX12 Жыл бұрын
@@RageAgainstTheStreet lol They got the GR Yaris putting down 520 whp over seas, but go on and pop off like you actually know anything.
@Tritonal92 Жыл бұрын
@@RageAgainstTheStreet go do your research, people with GR Yaris have been tuning them for 400+ hp reliably
@DragonKnightX12 Жыл бұрын
@@RageAgainstTheStreet Those aren’t even stock blocks making 1k HP. Bro new turbo bangers are making 400 Hp casually with bolt-ons, exhaust, injectors, and E85.
@nickwong2525 Жыл бұрын
Definitely do a long term ownership series of this car, would love to see how well it hold up against heat, that will be a good information for those planning to get this car and do track days.
@Lambo6fo Жыл бұрын
A lot of people don't understand how good 3 cylinder engines are. I own a Yamaha mt09. It has a 847cc 3cylinder. I wouldn't have it any other way. I live in Canada and we are getting 9 GR Corollas this year. Nice car overall.
@DB-sd3cw Жыл бұрын
As a former 2nd gen MT-09 owner I 1000% agree. Any other motorcycle engine just doesn't cut it anymore.
@Zeracho Жыл бұрын
Triumph speed triple here. 3 cyl gang rise up!
@Obee270 Жыл бұрын
I miss my street triple everyday. Gotta love the soundtrack of a 3cyl.
@i8i03muhammadfarizb7 Жыл бұрын
3cyl is where the balance is at, you still get the peak power character of 4 cyl but still have the torque like 2 cyl
@RiikuG Жыл бұрын
I just picked up my white GR Corolla last week, after purchasing the normal XSE manual corolla hatchback after watching your video on it all those years ago. All I can say is that it’s my dream car, I bought a massive warranty with it and plan to run it into the ground. Thanks for all the content you guys do, it does make a difference even if it sometimes doesn’t feel like it
@DB-sd3cw Жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that man
@notsodelusional Жыл бұрын
Can you let us know if you had to pay market adjustments / dealer addons?
@RiikuG Жыл бұрын
@@notsodelusional no dealer add ons, I was adamant that the dealer does not touch the car other than doing a PDI code clear. I sent it off to PPF and wrap afterwards. I paid a few thousand markup and I bought a 125kmi warranty as well
@Mr.Thermistor7228 Жыл бұрын
im infinitely jealous and happy for you.
@Dowlphin Жыл бұрын
Planning to run a Toyota into the ground might leave you disappointed. 😆 Nah, just kidding. Toyotas are actually not as robust and reliable as people think. Couple billion years from now when the sun goes supernova, a lot of people are gonna bring their old Toyotas to the dealership and complain about overheating issues. Mark, my words.
@mistamaog Жыл бұрын
We'd all love to see a long term review, and an extensive comparison against the Type R, and even the WRX since it's AWD.
@CruiseControl1 Жыл бұрын
You briefly brought up the WRX STI, I have driven a few gens of the STI and would love a comparison video of the GR Corolla VS a STI. Give a pros and cons to both and pick a winner. Great video as always
@ethereous Жыл бұрын
Chris Atkinson drove an STI and a GR Yaris for CarExpert about a year ago. Go check it out. The only time I've ever seen a "reviewer" (he's the 1st party rally driver for Subaru USA) handbrake turn an STI and then a Yaris.
@CruiseControl1 Жыл бұрын
@@ethereous awesome thanks!!!
@mistamaog Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see it against the regular WRX as well
@LawrenceTimme Жыл бұрын
I considered the yaris, but decided to keep my sti. The visibility is way better in the sti, the engine sounds better, the yaris has that tablet stuck on the dash, the lane assist, start stop bs has to be turned off every time you start it. In the end it costs more and you get more or less same performance with less character and more modern inconveniences.
@alfredharrison8190 Жыл бұрын
Love the term “modern inconveniences”. Sometimes they just get in the way of driving.
@milesfathi Жыл бұрын
I used to be crazy about hot hatches, especially how juvenile they feel. Then I spent the last year driving a GR86 (in Canadian weather mind you) and now can't imagine spending money on any sporty vehicle that's not RWD and on a dedicated sportscar platform.
@jaybosher6144 Жыл бұрын
The 86 twins are technically based on a modified impreza chassis and I think the new one may he on a new global platform but I get your point. Some people need the practical nature of hatches for daily life so 4 doors and hatches are sought after
@tazered4life617 Жыл бұрын
@@jaybosher6144 it actually is a bespoke chassis. It uses some Subaru global platform parts but it is 100% a separate thing. The OG (which the new one is a modified version of) toyobaru is a Toyota designed chassis.
@oraclemiata845 Жыл бұрын
RWD snobbery is a thing. Honestly, it’s hilarious to me how RWD drivers think they got some kinda technical skill advantage on others. 😂
@milesfathi Жыл бұрын
@@oraclemiata845 tf are you talking about? Where did I say anything about skill? Just pointing out that from my perspective RWD dynamics are more fun.
@palebeachbum Жыл бұрын
@@milesfathi RWD dynamics are definitely more fun, but nothing you're going to notice or feel on the streets in everyday driving.
@air-headedaviator1805 Жыл бұрын
Sounds silly to say, but after having a Corolla as a rental I started to understand the appeal for the normal car. It has kinda fun! So my imagination suggests that a GR version would be fantastic! If y’all are able a long term review would be great to see, familiarizing with its more subtle quirks to learn what owning is really like.
@roundearthshill248 Жыл бұрын
A dude I work with has a Corolla hatch, not a GR obviously but one of the higher trim levels. It always turns my head when I walk past it in the parking lot. Damn good-looking car. Also a very safe and reliable car.
@nerychristian Жыл бұрын
The GR version will be selling for at least 50k.
@ForgetfulFoot Жыл бұрын
Much love and support from Australia Mark and Jack! Keep up the good work!
@singular9 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see a long term review including some fun gravel rally driving :) This is THE car to have. Its THE daily.
@airpsy5976 Жыл бұрын
Yes on the ownership video! Planning to get one a few years from now, hopefully they keep making this and the market stabilizes by then.
@DB-sd3cw Жыл бұрын
Why blow money on an overpriced corolla when better cars are available at this price point?
@airpsy5976 Жыл бұрын
@@DB-sd3cw 1. I live in Canada so we only have the Core edition. MSRP on those are not bad. 2. I was planning on buying used so hopefully they make more of them in a few years so I can get one below MSRP of Core. 3. AWD makes Canada winters a breeze. If you can recommend another modern AWD hot hatch at this price point I’d be happy to look into it.
@MaddNomad1015 Жыл бұрын
Just go read whatever owners have to say on the forums. They actually use cars long term
@danteriyaki7419 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see a long term review of this one. This is one of the most exciting cars in recent years.
@stevethomas760 Жыл бұрын
Found it odd that the Circuit with the carbon fiber roof is heavier than the Core. Got mine for MSRP + $1300 dealer add ons (40K). Just crossed the 1K miles so the right pedal can be enjoyed. Makes me feel like I'm 63. Solid review
@richr161 Жыл бұрын
Congrats. Its a shame that dealers have to add their "tax" on the car.
@stevethomas760 Жыл бұрын
@@richr161 The old supply and demand. I own a '91 NSX. The original owner paid 20K over list, 83K. A lot of money now, a boatload back then
@LouisSubearth Жыл бұрын
The Circuit comes with all the factory options the Core offers as standard equipment, and the carbon fiber roof is not enough to offset the weight of the optionless Core.
@stevethomas760 Жыл бұрын
@@LouisSubearth The weight I saw did include the locking differentials but not tech/weather
@scubarubanzaii Жыл бұрын
Absolutely do the long term on the car! Honestly seeing how this car lasts with hard driving fully documented would be an instant watch for me.
@yootoobinator Жыл бұрын
YES! Please do a long-term. That would be fantastic. I'm currently in a '14 FR-S - came from an '04 GTI - and I'm salivating so hard over the GR Corolla! Keep up the awesome videos guys!
@pushtoyota Жыл бұрын
I own a GR Corolla and I am local in IL. Hope to see you guys around! I love my GR Corolla and it drives very similar to my Evo IX...
@citrusjuicebox Жыл бұрын
Any thoughts compared to an Evo X?
@pushtoyota Жыл бұрын
@@citrusjuicebox also owned a evo X, this feels stock for stock better than my old evo X.
@kevinclapson Жыл бұрын
At this price point, I would have hoped for a slightly better interior. Great review as always guys.
@DaftDriver Жыл бұрын
The things car enthusiasts do to capture the feeling of cars from a bygone era.. would love to see a long term comparison with your FL5, they just don't make em like they used to and these cars may be the last of their kind once every car is a EV or a hybrid. Thanks for making these in depth videos, even if they don't get as many views as the CUVs they're appreciated by car people
@Eyce Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that they transferred the clutch smell from the GR Yaris into the Corolla as well. Such character.
@AK-ZL1 Жыл бұрын
I would absolutely love you guys to do a long-term review. It's Toyota's first stab at full in house sports car in a while, given their reputation as top dog for reliability, it would be very interesting and informative to see how things go over a longer period of time.
@treaves2175 Жыл бұрын
Especially given that from any other manufacturer, an engine like this would be viewed as a massive liability. So much boost in 3cyl. I really wanna see!
@omarkenoh Жыл бұрын
A long-term review coupled with a comparison with your Civic Type-R would be excellent.
@mstSean Жыл бұрын
One other body change to mention from Core to Circuit/Morizo is that it has a unique "power" bulge hood with venting that is additional body change that Jack didn't mention. Would love to see a long term series on this car.
@priceoffreedom9030 Жыл бұрын
Would love me a power bulge body change.
@CristianHernandez-xh7bz Жыл бұрын
I’m all for this car and I hope it does well. With the hot hatch segment becoming less and less important to manufacturers (and consumers), the GR Corolla give much needed competition to the CTR and Golf R.
@briankuhn1747 Жыл бұрын
I hope this car does well in the market. Even if it's somewhat niche (and particularly at the higher trims), a good showing on this car helps make the case for more like it in the future, especially at a more attainable price point.
@ericpromisco2213 Жыл бұрын
From all reports they're selling very well. So we'll in fact that they announced another year of the circuit and they're increasing production of the core.
@andersonrodriguez8258 Жыл бұрын
It is Toyota increasing production for the demand is causing
@Fahadfk8 Жыл бұрын
Clicked on the link before I could even think about it. I've been waiting on this forever.
@nf1369 Жыл бұрын
Me too! When I refreshed the main page and I saw this uploaded 3 minutes ago I jumped from my seat!
@matthewfeeney1303 Жыл бұрын
I think your closing statements are incredibly well put. To be honest, I was between this and the ELANTRA N, and I was coming from a 2022 Corolla hatchback. Naturally the GR Corolla felt like the perfect upgrade from that car, but by the time the opportunity came for me to buy one I couldn’t stomach the price considering how much the ELANTRA offers without nearly as many compromises in terms of capacity and livability, and downgrades in interior quality and space compared to a standard XSE Corolla Hatch. Great video.
@raist315 Жыл бұрын
I'd definitely like to see a long term on this one. Of the current hot hatches, the Circuit is my purchase choice.
@jacksonbrusseaux4754 Жыл бұрын
I feel like a lot of car enthusiast are cross-shopping the GR Corolla with the Civic Type R as a potential daily driver. Given that Mark has the FL5, I know I personally would really appreciate having a deep dive comparison between the two with savagegeese levels of detail.
@andersonrodriguez8258 Жыл бұрын
And the STI wrx previous owners
@LARSENBISQUITS Жыл бұрын
Car enthusiasts don’t drive Corollas and civics.
@pmayo7894 Жыл бұрын
@@LARSENBISQUITS - not quite, considering that some of the famous rally legends are based on econoboxes (Subaru Impreza, Lancia Delta, Mitsubishi Lancer, Peugeot 205, Ford Focus). Besides, the Civic Type R exists.
@oraclemiata845 Жыл бұрын
We need a long termer please! Sweet sixteen open diffs!
@malcolmar Жыл бұрын
I love this car! The fact that Toyota was able to make it in this day and age is amazing. I would love to own one. This car is an instant classic for sure.
@hellatightdude Жыл бұрын
Do a long term ownership series please!!! I’m picking up a Morizo Edition with 5k markup the end of this month. I’d love to see y’all do a long term review so I could learn as much as I can from y’all!
@CPMUNSEY Жыл бұрын
Yes I def wanna see a long term ownership review of this car on here!! That would be excellent!👌🏽🔥🔥
@dil6969 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate how natural the engine sounds in the driving section. I am so over the obnoxious fake engine noise that sounds like playing a Forza game from 10 years ago. It's too bad it took so long for Toyota to bring a car like this to the US market. Ditto for the Type R. I don't think many people will be able to afford a car like this unless they get very lucky finding one that isn't marked up to the moon.
@Shinray1kuo Жыл бұрын
YES please, long term ownership would be amazing
@benhaze1010 Жыл бұрын
Within 3 minutes in this video I've already learn news things about this car that nobody else has mentioned yet. This is why this channel is so awesome. Give it to me straight.
@shustyrackleford7356 Жыл бұрын
Great review, and I'm glad you are grounded enough to admit that with current dealer mark-ups, that the GR Corolla falls short FOR THE PRICE. I was actually going to order one, and trade in my Focus ST towards it, but I couldn't justify spending double what I paid for my used ST for a Corolla.
@mistamaog Жыл бұрын
Was it double the price because of mark ups?
@timmilligan7110 Жыл бұрын
I couldn’t do the smaller interior of the GR due to family but it looks like a fun car to blast around in. The inevitable $40k+ after markup seems excessive. The cool part about Hot Hatches is that in the past you felt like you were beating the system by getting awesome performance at a budget price. This doesn’t feel that way unfortunately.
@murk454527 күн бұрын
This is the most fun car I have ever driven. I can’t believe it exists. No matter what else I test drive nothing else comes close anywhere near the price point. Got it at MSRP after months of looking. Family Toyota of Arlington did not haggle me at all, just straight MSRP
@desirabledrives44 Жыл бұрын
For those playing at home Australia is only getting the povo pack and the two seat top spec. Prices from memory start at close to $70k AUD for the pov pack and finish in the $80s AUD for the other version. I don't know about you but so many other new and used vehicles are at that price point that deliver similar driving enjoyment.
@tailaileron4998 Жыл бұрын
I agree with every sentiment and statement from both of you guys in the value and fun of this car, if you pay at MSRP it is great for each trim at that price, l believe that for this and the new Z based on your videos that dove into details on that car due to the caveats of them needing a little aftermarket to fix their shortcomings for part track enthusiasts like myself and you all, cooling for the diffs on the GR and aftermarket suspension for the Z and an upgraded trans mount for the 1st to 2nd gear grind/lockout feel. I say this as an owner of a 2010 Mazdaspeed 3 and a 2014 big turbo track build Genesis Coupe who had both a Z and GR Corolla on reserve but backed out one dealers wanted over MSRP and compared to just keeping what I have at the prices I paid vs buying basically newer versions of the same cars, it was a no brainer
@terrariagamer2023 Жыл бұрын
We just got one at my local dealership Adams Toyota Kansas City. Base edition with options (sticker is $39,500). The minimum they are going to sell it for is 10k over sticker at $50,000. Dissapointing.
@TeslaRoadtrips Жыл бұрын
Id rather get a tesla model 3 performance. For 45 after tax credit will mop the floor w this.
@qx4n9e1xp Жыл бұрын
The best part about this car is the inline 3. I love the sound this engine configuration makes. Hearing you guys drive the Corolla reminds me of motorcycles like the Yamaha FZ-09 & Triumph Street Triple. Both amazing bikes, and it was only a matter of time before inline-3s would make their way into mainstream passenger vehicles, with how far turbo technology has come. Thanks for the review, and know that I'm not opposed to a long-term review of this car, but don't spread yourself thin. The GR86, c8 z06, & CTR are already great.
@mitevm Жыл бұрын
A series with the Corolla will be absolutely epic! There are very few cars, if any, that can combine so many driving aspects.
@muthukumaranc Жыл бұрын
I think they probably removed the center armrest because of the manual handbrake in the GR Corolla.
@kronikinsomniak Жыл бұрын
That’s just bad design. Plenty of other cars don’t have that issue.
@muthukumaranc Жыл бұрын
@@kronikinsomniak I think the base Corolla was designed with electronic handbrake in mind. GR team probably wanted the manual handbrake but they didn't bother redesigning the center armrest.
@Dowlphin Жыл бұрын
In the fabled old times when demigods roamed the face of the Earth, cars with both armrest and manual hand brake were made.
@MumrikDK Жыл бұрын
Would explain the DIY look in that section.
@brOblio Жыл бұрын
Worth it😂
@dloreanwiz Жыл бұрын
Never understood why they did the track event at high elevation during the summer. Glad the engine comes alive in better conditions. The CTR talks to me more but a Core with the diffs at MSRP will be popular.
@treaves2175 Жыл бұрын
Lmao the B roll of Asian girls killed me. Your B roll is always appreciated, Mark. Best comedy in car channels.
@LanceCorporal_Waffles Жыл бұрын
I hope to be able to get one in a year or 2. I’ll be adding it to my stable alongside my Abarth 500.
@gladdy02 Жыл бұрын
I can't wait for the GR Sienna 🙂
@christophergodschalk3627 Жыл бұрын
I’m disappointed stellantis never made a hellcat minivan
@electrikoptik Жыл бұрын
In Japan you can get a GR sports Noah and Voxy. Noah and Voxy are JDM minivans.
@v8_sami Жыл бұрын
@@electrikoptik yeah those are more of an appearance package than anything I think.
@2aminitials Жыл бұрын
@@christophergodschalk3627The Hellcat minivan should be called the Hellspawn in reference to the kids it would carry.
@betteheadbettehead4800 Жыл бұрын
🤣
@Toyota4Life Жыл бұрын
Very few cars are a instant Legend. This is one of them.
@somaambrus708411 ай бұрын
Damm i want a GR Yaris so bad. I'll go in massive debt in order to be able to drive it every day. the GR corolla is cool also, but the Yaris is dream car status
@alamsas2 Жыл бұрын
This is basically the successor of the STi in spirit. The only big downside that can turn off most people is the really cheap interior. You can't really even argue that it was cost savings since they focused on performance, considering the way dealers have been marking the car up. If it had the interior of the Corolla XSE rather than the base Corolla, it would have been a no brainer for a lot more people. Hopefully they improve on it in the coming MYs.
@danielsoto_toronto Жыл бұрын
Still wish we got the Yaris GR, the corolla is just not the same
@tunanocrust2642 Жыл бұрын
The Focus ST had terrible heat soak too, aftermarket intercoolers fixed it, im sure there is areas of improvement as always, Toyota still tries to keep cost down at the factory at the end of the day. So its not perfect due to cost limits. But the beauty of aftermarket will fix it if you want to spend more. Im excited to see the long term potential of this chassis
@deviouslaw Жыл бұрын
I love the segments where you get comments from the engineers.
@yuanzhang7392 Жыл бұрын
the suv videos feel like work, this one is LIFE.
@mogulmayhem Жыл бұрын
As a car enthusiast, I am totally turned off by the way the dealer network is handling this car. If I want to spend 60K on a car I'm not looking at a COROLLA.
@TeslaRoadtrips Жыл бұрын
Get a tesla. No pricing games.
@GreenEarth20 Жыл бұрын
Yeah exactly, DFW metro area is gonna get like 5 allocated in total maybe, all marked up to shit. So why even fucking bother? Cool car Toyota, it might as well not exist.
@mogulmayhem Жыл бұрын
@@TeslaRoadtrips exactly why I'm considering one.
@mogulmayhem Жыл бұрын
@nomenclature9607 if you call the dealer directly they are either in production with no arrival date or presold. One dealer even said that they were going to "auction" their GR "to a charity".
@mogulmayhem10 ай бұрын
@@TeslaRoadtrips I found one at MSRP. I also live in the mountains. This thing is a BLAST.
@bRiAn55549 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see a head to head with this and the type R
@Dia1Up Жыл бұрын
PLEASE long term! Part of the charm of a car like this, is the "lack of refinement". I love driving our 05 Corolla XRS, it's stiff, it's fun
@figwasp6101 Жыл бұрын
I'd watch a full GR Corolla ownership series, it will be a few years till I can afford one.
@beyondcleon Жыл бұрын
Morizo is the paradox that’s built to be driven but not to be owned.
@komrobert Жыл бұрын
I'd love to hear some thoughts on this vs the Focus RS. I had a Focus RS for about 20K miles and really liked it, but the potential engine issues worried me a little, but I do want a similar experience again someday. This seems like a pretty similar car in many ways, though the AWD system in the RS seems like it allowed a little more drift. I do like the more raw feeling and less refined ride of some hot hatches like this GR and the RS. The Type R always felt too soft to me when I've tested the FK.
@martingriggs63628 ай бұрын
I have driven or owned over 150 cars in my lifetime. Everything from a Porsche 911 turbo to a Ford Fiesta ST. I thought I would never drive anything more fun than my Fiesta ST, I was wrong. The car I considered the most boring car in the world, got turned into this. I got to test drive a core edition by myself. All I can say is WOW! Unbelievable.
@MrMusicweekly Жыл бұрын
Hey I love your guys content. You guys are legitimately the only car reviewers that I actually watch. Only thing is, your description says "designed a built by Toyota" when I think you mean designed and built by Toyota. Now to finish the sandwich approach. Love you guys. You're the best thing ever.
@holHEARTedly Жыл бұрын
Please do a long term review! Great job on a detailed review!
@mmr0221 Жыл бұрын
I just want a manual naturally aspirated engine with physical controls and low technology for under 30k
@namyu5379 Жыл бұрын
GR86, MX-5
@TeslaRoadtrips Жыл бұрын
Na engines are never coming back.
@pontiacGXPfan Жыл бұрын
shitbag modernists and tree huggers have essentially ruined that
@mmr0221 Жыл бұрын
@@pontiacGXPfan Biden’s epa
@StevenCasado Жыл бұрын
YES! Please do an ownership series on this. Im instantly watching all of that content
@ljc1821 Жыл бұрын
Always ready for savageeese Friday morning releases :)
@basithph8958 Жыл бұрын
Man Toyota has been on a roll lately they have literally revamped their brand and now we have the GR Corolla which is arguably the best car ever made This is one of the few new cars worth getting and it's certainly going to hold its value very well over time even better as this is literally the US version of the GR Yaris this is probably the most affordable homologation model you can get (at MSRP) that is a must have for this generation God I love this car so much now I really want one I'm definitely getting one
@oraclemiata845 Жыл бұрын
No doubt a great car, but it’s not a homologation and not even arguably close to the best car ever made…. 😮. I want one as well.
@patrickbilodeau3785 Жыл бұрын
I very happy with my Elantra N !
@savagegeese Жыл бұрын
The more we do these videos the more I love the Elantra n
@savagegeese Жыл бұрын
@DarkMode we are doing a big comparison and they both will be in the video
@oraclemiata845 Жыл бұрын
Please add a Kona N for shits and giggles as well. Bitte!
@latuba2478 Жыл бұрын
Ownership series is a must. The Type R should be in the talks as well knowing that mark now owns one
@robbydelplain8950 Жыл бұрын
Long term review sounds great!
@aceorocha7857 Жыл бұрын
At the end of the day it’s still a 44k Corolla. That’s Supra money, for a hot hatch with a economy car interior.
@tinhinnh Жыл бұрын
base supra lol. “economy car interior” was what used to be hot hatches 😊
@electrikoptik Жыл бұрын
This is a bit ignorant to say. It’s not like they took a regular Corolla and just put a new engine in and called it a day. It’s like saying ‘at the end of the day the M3 is just a 3-series’.
@hyoreusui Жыл бұрын
@@electrikoptik what’s ignorant is what you just typed… that’s exactly what they did… the interior is almost identical to any base model corolla you will find on the lot today
@DragonKnightX12 Жыл бұрын
$44k for a rally inspired track ripper, that's all Toyota. Or 44k for the broke boi Supra 2.0 that has non of the performance goodies, or even the premium audio system. Yea I'll take the GRC Circuit.
@electrikoptik Жыл бұрын
@@hyoreusui Oh really? That's exactly what they did? Let's see it has an improved version of the outstanding 1.6 3-cylinder engine in the GR Yaris, wider front and rear fender, triple exhaust, front-bumper air intake and front-fender and hood-bulge air outlets, forged carbon fiber roof, short throw 6 speed transmission, GR four 4WD system with available front and rear LSD, full TFT digital display, 4 pot front and 2 pot rear ventilated brakes, track widening by 60 mm up front and by 85 mm in the rear, 349 more spot weld points for body rigidity strengthening, in addition to the high-rigidity basic framework braces have been added between the rear wheel wells, to the under-floor tunnel, and under the floor in front of the fuel tank to improve handling stability, upgraded suspension, countless hours spent tuning and dialing in the car on circuit and dirt roads. This is just to name a few. You know nothing. It's like somebody saying "Oh the BMW M5 is just a more expensive 520i".
@ProJanitor Жыл бұрын
When did Toyota decide to stop being completely lame? This car looks great.
@realcreamofwheat7728 Жыл бұрын
Ya, i'm not normally pining for anything Toyota, but their vehicles lately have me looking in their direction. Too bad their dealers are just as arrogant as ever and you will pay up the nose for GR.
@jj481012 Жыл бұрын
I see that Running in the 90s; LFG!!! 😤
@AD-lf9ck Жыл бұрын
I wish someday atleast one company brings back soul of an 90's car back.
@jeo33466 Жыл бұрын
Have fun finding one without greedy dealer markups. Toyota did amazing but their dealerships are going to ruin this car
@mmr0221 Жыл бұрын
I hope my wife’s yoga instructor can buy me this car. He got a Lexus for my wife so I hope he can get this for me. I’ve been a good boy
@infinitebeast5517 Жыл бұрын
Yes! I'd love an ownership series!
@darrin3088 Жыл бұрын
Just hit 6k miles in my Elantra N dct. Interior in the elantra is def better. The gr corolla looks like the interior of a base car still or the n-line model not full N. Being able to down shift under an underpass and having my car pop echo off the walls stock still hasn't gotten old. I've had no issues with my car so far, and i managed to do something no gr owner can say they have done before... pay under msrp for my car... i don't track my car, but i have gone on 300-mile road trips and bombed back roads, and it did those both well. For guys like you who get to drive new cars all the time im sure your view is different but for me coming from a 2009 pontiac g6 with a new CEL code for each day of the year i love my car more than any car I've been in. The only cars i test drove before the EN were a 2022 kia forte gt, a 2.0 and 3.6 genesis coupe, a base model corolla, and an Elantra N-line. The EN is leagues better than all of them. I respect owners of any car made towards enthusiast but i absolutely think i made the right choice for me.