we use "roskis" in speech Finnish aswell

The etymology of "kiva" is quite interesting. The original word is "hyvä" that is "good" in Finnish. During the Russian imperial era there were a lot of Russians living in Finland and they adopted that word, but could not pronounce it, so it became "kiva" in Russian mouths. Then it was adopted back to Finnish with slightly different meaning. I think "kul" is the nearest Swedish word to kiva.

in Finland, if we have to say hello to someone, we have many choises to say it (moi, moro, morjens, hei , terve)

Jag har hört alla dem där orden som du nämnde när jag varit i Finland och träffat finlandssvenskar. Jag tycker om hur man talar svenska i Finland. Väldigt fint och mjukt tycker jag, generellt. Minnepinne ❤️

Thanks for doing this. I'm learning Swedish, but am half Finnish. So this is very helpful. I've been aware that are differences.

Kiva juttu.

Håsa - when in a hurry doing a task sloppily Rojsig - Nasty :) btw I did the Paja thing in Stockholm zoo with the snakelady.. She looked at me like I'd be a child-psychopath :'(

I have lived in Sweden twice (once for studies in Falun and once for work in Stockholm), and both times I realized just how much "Finland-Swedish" / Finnish loan words I was using in my daily vocabulary while in Finland. I didn't give up my dialect or try to sound like the people I was in close contact with for work or school, but I had to avoid some specific wordings that wouldn't make sense for Sweden-Swedes. Especially for my work in elderly care in Stockholm, I wanted to be able to express myself very clearly and not confuse e.g. dementia clients. In Falun during my studies, I encountered people saying I sounded like a Moomin troll or librarians tried to redirect me to the Finnish book section as soon as I opened my mouth in the library, just because my dialect (to them!) sounded like I had Finnish as my mothertongue. What takes the cake however, was when I was ordering in CRYSTAL CLEAR Swedish in a McDonald's in Falun, and the guy behind the counter insisted on answering me only in English, even though I spoke Swedish with him the entire time (ofc without any Fenno-Swedish words, I knew better than that at this point). I heard him talk in Swedish with several other customers before that, so it wasn't like he didn't know Swedish that well.

This was super interesting!

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Juttu = a thing or a conversation subject, could also be used for conversation it's self but the verb for that is juttelu, or actually juttelu/jutella is a sort of casual (but not necessarily, it could be an important talk too but it's the more casual form) talk and keskustelu (literally I suppose it's translatable as centering/centraling as keskus = center) is the literal equivalent word for conversation. Funnily it has a political tone to it since republicanism was born in Rome where the main medium for conversing about it was the Forum, a central gathering place for idealogical and political debates.

"Kaveri" actually comes from the Hebrew word "khaver" (חָבֵר), plural "khaverim" (חברים), which means "comrade", "friend", "fellow", and it was introduced by Russian Jewish soldiers into Finnish.

I was in Ostrobothnia and fell in love with the area. Jakobstad (Pietarsaari in Finnish) is really nice.

Very interesting! are these words also used in the Åland islands?

Kiva, roskis (short from roskakori/roskalattikko), juttu, vessa, kaveri, hosua(håsa), paijata (paja) are all Finnish words and hei, moi, moro, morjens etc. are all Finnish ways to say Hello :)

There are different regional ways to say hey, whats up - Hej that is used in North and Lapland - Morgens, Moro that is used in Tampere, Pori, Rauma, Turku area. - Moi is used in Helsinki and you can hear it everywhere. - I don’t know much about Eastern Finland even I’m a Finn. There are only few cities

Dad grew up in Sweden, but had to do military service in Finland. He chose a "swedish speaking" regiment, but he transferred to a Finnish speaking one because he understood them better.

hehe nice 1.. i might translate a few: rojsig = roisi (old word.. not even sure what it used for, maybe same as härski.?) "paja" = actual small manual working place but if you talk about petting its paijata / paijjaa (old word too) håsa = hosua (still in use) fyrk = fyrkka, money, i think this is from stadin slangi. origins maybe from viipuri emmigrants (the root of "stadin slangi"), i could be wrong on this one though how about "hän" or "se"? idk if either is used by finswedes.. both can be used for the neutral way of talking about 3rd person without assuming gender.. the most normal thing here, that's why at first when finns start talking english we end up calling men women and vice versa by mistake.. or you'll hear we say a lot "he or she" because we can't just assume something we don't know.. :D btw i've heard sweden was taking the word "hän" for formal usage... but not like in finland, but for something they call "gender-neutral people"... heard this from vice's video: raised without gender .....asking a child "are u a girl today or a boy?", in what condition is the psyche of the parent?... in similiar situation here they /(govt) would probably take those ppls' children under custody... sorry for the thought-dhiarrea, but sometimes i'm a bit concerned how you neighbors are holding up when the "care-taker" seems so messed /payd.. hearing weird news from there :D and hearing also some ok-youtubers, like this one! nice vid :) greets from across bottom sea

Håsa I guess is the same as the Ostrobothnian word "Hoosata" not to be confused with "Hyysätä" witch means to take care of someone.

Ska vi tala(prata) Moominsvenska ? Rigtigt kiva juttu!

we use almost all of these words in southern finland when speaking finnish too

Morjens is related with morgån or Morgen, I believe.

I think you can use the word "grej" for "juttu" in Swedish, isn't that right?

You only focused on south-finland you ignored ostrobottnia who peaks the oldest Swedish language you can find anywhere.

Hejsan! Helt intressant video. Har dock två kommentarer. Första gäller att en del av de ord du tar upp är inte från finskan varken ursprungligen eller över huvud. Det bästa exemplet i detta fall är fyrk. Detta ord är egentligen ett slangord både i fisv och i finskan. Här används ordet (på finska "fyrkkaa") av båda språkgrupperna väl främst i Helsingforsregionen men det som är helt säkert är att ordet absolut inte har ett finskt ursprung. De ord som nog har sitt ursprung i finskan är kiva, juttu, kaveri och håsa. Dessa är dock också ord du absolut aldrig använder i vårdat tal och över huvud inte inom flesta regioner - mest inom just Helsingforsregionen (med undantag av håsa). De tre första är dessutom ord som främst tonåringar använder. Andra kommentaren hör egentligen ihop med den första: Varför har du gett din video titeln "Finnish words in Finland's own Swedish"? Bättre hade kanske varit "Strange words in Finland-Swedish".

Tack för en intressant video. Jag har för mig att slangordet fyrkka i finlanssvenskan och finskan kommer från det svenska ordet fyrklöver ( något värdefullt) . Om jag minns rätt så används ordet klöver för pengar Sverige.

From the Vasa region here... never heard of Fyrk ever in my entire life

There are great differences in the dialects people speak in Finnish Österbotten, Åbo and Helsinki areas. These words are just Finnish loan words or old Swedish loans to Finnish language. The same goes with original Finnish Meänkieli minority in Sweden. It sounds like you speak Swedish in Finnish. Or Finnish with Swedish sentence structures.

Inget vidare jag ska flytta till Ålalnd!

Fun thing is that basically all in Finland should know at least little Swedish cause it's mandatory in school 😊

I'm not really familiar how the swedish-speaking finns use 'juttu' when they talk Swedish, but in Finnish its primary meaning is a story/a tale. It CAN be used like the English word 'thing', but I'd say it's a secondary meaning.

One IMHO really funny Fenno-Swedish word is their version of Dagis/Förskola where they made a direct translation of the German Kindergarten into Barnträdgård.

Bruh jag är bilingual so i speak finland swedisch but also german bc i live in germany it was so random when you started speaking germen haha

FYI, "Moin" is a common greeting in Northern Germany as well, Germanic in origin.

And of course "pojke" is used in Sweden for centuries.

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never say "slickepinne" in sweden. also never ask to "paja" someone's dog

Lets add to the list a bit in Finland-swedish you would say låppen but what we mean is militärtjänst

Im trying to learn to speak "Juttu"

Visst ”juttu” är ”sak” typ: ”kiva juttu” kan vara ”bra sak”, ”rolig sak” eller ”dåligt sak” ”shit”, beror ju på ton du säger det.

Even an everyday word in every form of Swedish is Finnish in origin. Pojke (boy) comes from Old Swedish poika which in turn comes from Finnish poika.

Are you referring to Åland?

Für mich sind es ganz normale Wörter,weil ich halb Finnland schwedisch bin 😂😂😂

in polish juttu would be wichajster, from german Wie heißt er? literally meaning what's this called, im kinda surprised german has a different word for that lol

Kiva means FUN! Hauska is "Nice". Btw, "Tavara" means "thing" too but then it's substantiv. We use it too in finlandswedish. Rojsig means "messy" like your room is all messy with all the stuff being all over the place for example. Paja in finlandswedish means BOTH stroking something and breaking something. It's a double meaning. just to be clear. But mainly it is stroking something or someone. -Also; we finlandswedish people are very aware of that sweden swedish people don't get it when we use Paja. -I don't think it's often we say Paja as in breaking something in finlandswedish tho.. I have to give you a good point for pronouncing them all correctly, since sweden swedish people seem to have painfully hard usually to say both finlandswedish words and finnish words the right way! This makes me happy hearing someone pronouncing them right! :) Good vid, and it was better than expected! i'd like to see more vids like this from you! (only seen this one yet)

kaveri comes from Hebrew (khaver, plural khaverim) through Russian. The Russian Jew salesmen used it to get customers' attention in market places. Hey, khaver, khaver khaverim! fyrk, fyrkka probably comes from the old rikstaler - they where huge four-cornered coins. If you can call a half A4 size, half inch thick metal slab a coin :)

Mixing loan words to spoken language. Language is anyway living matter. Its amazing how much just in past years english words have integrated to everyday finnish as someking finglish words. There was time when I hated mixed Finnish-Swedish in a sentence. I remember one time in Helsinki when two certain type teenager girls (Pissis = Pissa-Liisa = shallow/annoying teenager girl) who really liked to say "jätte kiva" or "kiva" to everything that they were to discuss about. Kiva that and kiva that... Everything else was swedish except this one word which they kept repeating when we went down five floors in escalator.. I lost my nerves, turned, and said that it's "trevlig" in swedish. Girl's did freeze. They looked me like what the fuck just happened. They didn't say any words after that in my presence... XD

Doesn't swedes use "sak" as we use "juttu"?

80% of thosel were finnish words which finlands sweeds are using mainly southern Finland, especially in Helsinki. Just saying ;)

Kaveri is a combination of kamrat and toveri (from Russian tovarich).

Här i finska Tornedalen vi har svenska lån orderna som hantuuki = handduk, kamari = kammare, pottu = potatis, klasi = glas, kyörätä = köra. Så tycker jag att ni svenskarna kan låna våra finsk ord ”juttu” om det hjälper 😂

Guys i have very important question. What happen if western finlands who speak swedish go to helsinki and they dont understand what their own language is like lol

Jag använder nog inte alla dessa finska ord fast jag är finlandssvensk.

Skyddsväg finn swedish Övergångsställe Standard Swedish

ni har ju grej och sak i svenska som betyder ungefar samma sak som juttu

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The feno Swedish aren’t fake swedes? :)

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For you Swede, I guess that Norwegian and Danish are closer and easier to understand than Finnish and Estonian.

"Kiva" "Roskis" "vessa"

These all worlds are finnish language too

Moro

muminsvenskan är fin

Ffcvgggvv I speak jiberrish

am i the only fin here who thinks all these words are just finnish and not swed-fin ?!?!?! ( i mean i know kiva is actually kyvä but still)

It is very uncomfortable to listen to you.

I stayed in East Berlin in the 1980s and my German boss said "morjens" every morning, so it definitely comes from some dialect of German! :) Morgens > Morjens.