Yep, hate that they raised the price. It was closer to $8,500, but that’s what they chose to do. For us, it’s still worth the cost difference, for others it may not be. After 3 months of nights in the camper, the larger space, more comfortable mattress, better sealing doors, more clean wiring and mounting points are all worth it to us. If you aren’t planning on using it as much as we do, then it may not be. The other big thing not mentioned in the video is quality. Our friends with GFCs are all experiencing problems with rust, bugs, and really poor powder coating.

@@ScenicCityAdventures Holy mackerel! That's a huge price jump. Sure, at $800, it's a no brainer, but that's ridiculous. Hell, for $13K, you can buy a non running VW Westy and permanently attach a tow hitch to it. :)

That’s a ridiculous price. Buy an OVRLND or Vagabond for $8k instead.

Build one for 1000

Thanks guys! We absolutely love it! And my wife goes camping with me more than ever now. We just spent our anniversary exploring the Blue Ridge Parkway and living out of the camper. Super strong winds and cold nights don’t matter when you are warm and comfy in the SP!

Congratulations! You will LOVE it!

My pleasure!

Thank you! We just started the buildout this weekend and it looks killer!

My pleasure! I figured since I have purchased and used both other people may be interested in seeing the comparison. Glad you enjoyed it!

We do too. It’s much faster to setup and take down and the standing room is hard to beat.

i agree and share the same feelings about not having access from camper to cab. If SP doesn't want to offer it I think they could at least make the opening fit a standard slider that you'd get from a leer, snugtop, etc. that the user could modify. I have a tacoma and will be looking at a retrofit for my SP camper.

Congratulations!! You will love it!

Absolutely! We really love it

It really is! We’re super impressed with it. BTW, did you ever check out that diesel heater controller?

Right? They did such a good job!

Thank you! We are super happy with ours!

Thank you!

Oh it is! Let’s go camping so you can see it in person

Thanks! And we completely agree!

I made a little drop bracket to allow it to rest on the wheel well. It’s a great spot for it!

@@ScenicCityAdventures Good idea. Takes the weight off the mounting. I dont have fancy second gen bed rail so will probably use the rivnut from the x1 side.

That’s a great idea!

Thank you! You should do it! It’s so incredible

Congrats! What vehicle are you putting it on?

@@ScenicCityAdventures F150 SUPERCREW

Oh trust me! It hurts pulling the trigger, but everytime you use it, it’s worth it! It all depends on how much it will get used. 5 times a year, probably not worth it, but a few times a month the cost gets more tolerable.

@@ScenicCityAdventures yea I live off the nestuca River, and do alot of steelhead fishing and camping almost every weekend, truck bed camping is addictive, so yea it probably would be worth the price. Thanks for the comment.

I know a few that already have! And ya, it’s definitely a better design

But it is also about $5,000 more. Some cool features on this but that is a huge price difference

Ya, I hate that they’ve had to increase their price so much. It was a lot closer when they launched.

You know I haven’t really thought about it. Like you said I spent so long with the go fast camper that I guess I’m just used to it. I occasionally hear a little bit of wind buffeting between the underside of the camper and the top of the cab. Previously I had a roof rack that was sloped in the front that definitely helped reduce the wind noise. But to be honest I hear more road noise coming from the back of the truck where I remove the rear seats than I do wind noise from the camper.

I do want

Double the price of GFC..

Sure! I can definitely do that. I’m editing video from our last two week trip across Wyoming, but once that’s done I’ll do a long term review on the awning and X1.

It’s a fun drive! We drove all the way from TN. I did sell the awning with the GFC, and immediately purchased another one. I absolutely love it!

Thanks! And sadly no you can’t camp there. I wish!

My only negative on the Alu-Cabs is the inability to climb from below. For that price, one would expect the same capability as these newcomers.

Alucab is way too heavy.

Yep, valid points. When I bought mine the wait was less than 6 months and the price was more comparable. That being said, having spent close to 6 weeks in mine I could never go back. Luckily competition in the market has pushed GFC and others to step it up.

They absolutely do! Just under the overhanging portion of tent where it mounts to the camper shell are holes that are plugged from the factory but are set up to have a wire gland attached for running solar cables

Definitely! To me, but the V2 is an improvement but doesn’t fix my biggest complaints like the uncomfortable mattress, the no ventilation, the shorter mattress that you have to move to get up and down, and the bars blocking the side access.

Yeah, this beats the GFC……now go check out the Alu-Cab Canopy Camper…..you get a better built product AND you can spec it out with the best awning in the business! Yeah, yeah, you could mount their awning on this too……

@@8654ZuluFoxtrot Alu-Cab adds a lot more weight... if you have a full size its not a problem but for a taco it is.

@@kronos880 Very true, although I know a few folks with extremely nice taco's running these and they told me it's just a matter of matching the suspension to the weight. I don't have one, so I'm speaking on what they told me and what I've seen them do with those trucks.

@@8654ZuluFoxtrot cool. I'm on my 5th toyota truck, not including land cruisers. My experience is the compact/mid size platform perform heaps better kept light. Sure you can increase GVW, and I do, but if adding a lot of weight is your jam you'd be better off in a full size rig. There's a lot to be said about off roading a lighter rig verses a weighted down, large vehicle.

My pleasure! Oh ya, It looks great on first generation Tacoma’s! And the weight is around 350 pounds. We agree, this solves our sleeping and storage options in a lightweight and very customizable way.

We definitely agree!

@@ScenicCityAdventures I hope V2 of the SP gets you Project M style opening and a solution for dust entry from the tailgate. Some smart people worked on this SP!

Will do! That’s correct, it’s not insulated, but I run a small diesel heater if it gets below freezing. That being said I’ve only had to do that once and we’ve camped in below freezing weather quite a few times already.

Absolutely! Huge windows on each side come standard. And they have a ladder you can purchase with the camper

From watching this video, it should be fairly obvious that you get what you pay for. While you're correct from a pure pricing structure, the overall value is debatable and quality of the SP over the GFC identifies it as being a better overall choice. And cost is relative - we're also looking at the Rossmonster Lagom.

That’s the plan right now! Unfortunately they are back ordered until June.

Thanks! With similar options the SP is about $1500 more.

It’s really awesome! We love it. And yep, we are in the south east. Though we travel a lot we are based in TN near the Smokies.

Great question. My switch pro switches are mounted in the sun glass holder, in the main unit is mounted under the hood. If I need to do anything I just use the Bluetooth. I’ve heard that it fits easily in one of the wire covers but I have no experience with it.

@@ScenicCityAdventures ok… I’ve seen a walk through and someone has it mounted in one of the panels across from the usb 12 volt receptacle.. not yours? Any way. I have limited mounting options up front with 2021 taco without adding a mounting bracket (sdhq?) below other switches. I also don’t have sunglass holder with the off road crawl control knobs etc. I think mounting in bed could be cool. I’ll figure it out. Anyway cool vids and keep ‘em coming!

That's a great idea. I've had this truck now for a few years and through many different iterations from hammock camping to a Tepui RTT, GFC, and now this. I’ve put 100k miles on it in the last few years with multiple cross country trips. And in short I haven’t found anything I like better. Even loaded down to full expedition weight, around 6k pounds, this truck handles like a dream with the right modifications. For a long time the Bilstein 6100s and 5160s shocks were enough, but as we took on more advanced trails I decided it was time to upgrade to a fully adjustable Dobinson’s suspension. It’s been really enjoyable to dial it in for different terrain, but not necessary. For just my wife and I we find there is just enough room for a 2+ week trip. If our trips were longer, or we had to bring more people a midsized truck wouldn’t work. On the other hand, we take on much smaller and more technical trails than most full size trucks. Both my father and grandfather have f250s we go camping with, and I have to choose the trails more carefully. My only complaint, is fuel capacity. We only get around 220 miles between tanks, and the cost of upgrading is too much to justify the extra 10 gallons when we can just bring a couple of jerry cans. I'll see if I can do a video answering more of your questions soon.

Thanks! Primarily for privacy. I didn’t have the window in the GFC, and I didn’t feel I’d need it in this one. I don’t want people looking into the camper to see me, or my gear. But, I have second guessed my decision a few times. Having the large window looking from the cab into the back is pretty nice. I’ve had a few times where I’ve opened the rear door just to use my rear view mirror when backing into a tight spot. My plan is to replace my rear view mirror with a digital one that uses a camera. They are only $120, and have really good quality. I’ll make a video on that when I do it.

@@ScenicCityAdventures I ordered the rear window option and literally can't see out of it while driving... even at night car headlights are hard to see, and i think it actually weakens the panel a touch. but that said i like the ability to camp in the bed, low profile style, and have a little sense of what's going on outside (is the sun up?). There are certain times where deploying the camper just gives away that I'm sleeping maybe where its not really allowed or i don't want to draw attention.

@@kronos880 that makes sense. Nice to hear a different perspective!

@@ScenicCityAdventures My plan is to put up a water wall like the one in the alucab since I have an integrated backup camera. If you're looking to go greyman for a night or more, a simple windup clock w/alarm will tell you when It's morning. I am also convinced that a solid structure is more dependable. No leaks, no breaking, no cracks. Just another wall to hang stuff on. In the end what serves your particular needs is all that matters right? Safe and happy camping to you all, and if you have to meet any people out there may they be the best of us!

@@ScenicCityAdventurescouldn’t you put some sort of curtain on the window, that way you have the best of both worlds?

I believe it’s around 320 pounds, not 100% sure. Absolutely! I keep a set of sheets, sleeping bag, and comforter closed up in mine.

@@ScenicCityAdventures Great, thank you for the fast response.

There is definitely some light that comes through the roof, but in the three years of the GFC and the few month with the SP the light coming through has never caused me problems. That being said, you can easily cover it in a Vinyl if you want it blacked out. People have used VHB to mount flexible solar panels, but if you want to mount hard panels you’ll want to use the t-nuts in the sides of the roof. Last time I used 80/20 extruded aluminum to create a roof rack. Then you can mount the solar between those. If the solar is below / between the roof rack you can still toss a kayak over it without messing up the solar panels. For this one, I won’t be mounting a solar panel. I park in the shade too much while camping, and my GoalZero charges off the alternator while driving. We have a portal solar panel now that I can use with a 30ft extension.

It probably will be soon! Reach out to them. They are prototyping a lot of different trucks. For me it was only 4 months or so, but they already had the design for my truck. Depends on if they are ready to start production on an f-150 or not.

It is currently available for the f150 with a 6.5 bed. Check out their website.

Nope! The Super pacific only weighs around 400 pounds. Not enough for the tundra to really notice. Now if you start adding in a lot of additional accessories and water tanks and things you may start bottoming out. Just depends on your build out.

It’s all about weight to me. It’s more than I’d like, I believe it’s still quite a bit less heavy than the AluCab. I built out my own interior that’s water proof and removable so I can convert it back to a truck when I need. If you aren’t concerned with weight, and don’t mind a dedicated rig then the AluCab is a great option! They make a great product.

We’ve seen no problems with deflection on ours!

Yeah unfortunately they’ve had to raise their price and it makes it a harder decision. Compared to the first generation GFC it would be worth the extra cost, now with the prices going up and the GFC V2 it’s a harder decision. I still think that for those that will be living in the camper for longer than weekend trips it’s worth the extra money, for those doing weekend adventures I can see them not being able to justify the cost.

@@ScenicCityAdventures I'm looking at installing a GFC on my 2019 Ranger. I'm also thinking of a CargoGlide to improve access to the the gear. I've not seen anyone that has done this. What are your thoughts?

Congratulations! The ranger is a great platform. My best friend has one and loves it. Something like a cargo glide is a great option. My father built one into his camper so he wouldn’t have to crawl in and out to access his gear. For me, I don’t mind reaching over the side to get to my gear, and I wanted to prioritize seating / storage inside for bad weather and working space. The advantage to a GFC / SP is the ability to get to your gear from the outside with the doors, but if the truck is muddy, or on a hill it can be difficult to get to the gear. In cases like that having your gear come out the back to you could be handy. Because our truck isn’t a daily driver, having built in storage is perfect. If it wasn’t, and our gear was in boxes, the. A cargo slide would be a great way to access everything we need at camp.

You mean with bugs coming up when the bottom panels are out?

@@ScenicCityAdventures correct.

Great question, typically if we are in a buggy environment I won’t remove the floor panels until we are ready for bed. But the long-term game plan is to put screens that are removable on both side doors, in the removable screen over the back door that is magnetic we split in the middle for us to come in and out.

@@ScenicCityAdventures looking forward to your completed set up! Thanks for the quick reply!

It’s the first thing I do when I get in for the evening. Just reach down, pull the tailgate from the top to close it up, then pull the rear door down.

Thanks, I’m 5.11, my buddy who went on the trip with me is 6ft. Both of us slept great in it. Ya, I’ll add a roof fan this summer, and we haven’t found the need for additional insulation on our trips with either the GFC or SP, but it’s always something you can add as well.

@@ScenicCityAdventures Awesome, thanks for the info. Big help

That and the rear camera. In fact, some people use a special screen that goes over the rear view mirror, and a camera.

When loaded out with similar options it’s Bout 1k more expensive. And yes the style campers are not cheap. But people spend $3000 on a camper shell, another three to $4000 on a rooftop tent, and then add the bed rack and you’re getting close to the same price. And if you start looking into off-road trailers there are some that are $40,000. So it’s all about perspective.

@@ScenicCityAdventures I paid $150 for my camper shell.

There is a great thread on TacomaWorld that might be able to help. It will be a little different for my 2nd Gen, so not sure I can help, but there are a few 3rd gens in their that should be able to get you an answer.

@@ScenicCityAdventures Thanks!

Great video.

That answer is on the super pacific website. The figure that comes to mind is a little over 29 inches above the bed rail

@@fredbama5222 Thanks! Not sure how I missed it

You know, I’ve never tried. I usually just use a manual wash. I’m around 7 feet as it sits which is too tall for most.

bilstein 6112s in the front, 5160s in the back, SPC lower control arms, And Dakar leafs. No air bags.

Yep! Absolutely. I believe it can support around 100 pounds. Just need to make sure they are positioned so the ends won’t impact the roof when lifted.

It’s just a modified version of the OEM mount.

My tire is still under the truck. For me, a tire carries gets in the way when I need in the back of the truck, and adds a huge amount of weight far behind the axel. Ya, sadly it’s gone up in price since I purchased mine. It was closer to $9,000 previously. At the time the Alucab was more expensive and heavier, plus I like the side panels that open to access gear.

Not sure. When I bought it originally, it was around 2k different. I believe it’s more now.

Disregard, ill build one for $12,000 lol. Looks nice though

I still have a while to go before I am happy but if you go back and watch some of my first stuff a couple years ago it’s cringe worthy. 🤣

@@ScenicCityAdventures haha I’ll have to check them out then lol!

Lol, who knows. For me the priority is comfort and ease of use which this does much better. I’ll let someone else destroy their camper while we camp for a few weeks in comfort. 😁

@@ScenicCityAdventures Just saying, different purpose, different construction.

🤣

That’s a pretty select market… most people watching this video want a lightweight comfortable camper to enjoy traveling in.but if you want to yeet a truck off jumps, find a used 1st Gen GFC.

@@ScenicCityAdventures Geez, you're quite the jackass. I never said I wanted to drive flat out, just offering some insight. I'm sure you don't care, but this is the first, and last, video of yours I'll watch.

Stock and without the 33s it will. I’m at about 7’ 4 with mine lifted and with the rack.

@@ScenicCityAdventures thank you, im just concerned about my garage! Keep up the nice videos!

Bahaha! I don’t think the GFC would fit the Ridgeline, tho I think Super Pacific maybe making a ridgeline version… 😁

Shaking the camera and what looks like a high shutter speed makes it hard to watch. This is coming from a person that played FPS games for 20 years =)

There are outfit companies that can do that. I believe Super pacific has a relationship with one in Portland. You can talk to the to get it setup.

They are both great options. For me, the SP was lighter weight and cheaper with all the features I wanted vs paying for each additional option on the Vagabond. Also, the wait time is less.

I'm focused on a Drifter unless this vid changes my mind.

Having a vagabond outdoors drifter on my dcsb tacoma, the sp looks very comparable and a great option. I love my drifter but can’t argue with the price or lead time of the sp. Can’t wait to see one in person. As far as ventilation, are you able to add a fan to the roof? It helps with temps a lot. Also, are you able to store bedding and pillows on the bed when closed?

The driver is a great option as well. I’ve seen them in person. They are fantastic. You can absolutely add a fan to the roof just like you can in the drifter. and yes I’m able to leave bedding, and pillows while I close the camper. All you have to do is open the valve to allow the mattress to deflate.

If you have a tacoma weight is an issue. Also the ability to add accessories like racks etc. to the extruded aluminum t-tracks to me is a huge plus

Absolutely! I leave a full set of sheets, a down comforter, and an opened up sleeping bag. I do quickly roll the mattress to get the air out to make it easier.

@@ScenicCityAdventures that's a perfect setup. TYSM!

Absolutely! We still love it. It’s the perfect setup for us.

Thanks so much! The dust intrusion is pretty minimal on the camper its self. The truck has a few areas that could be better around the tailgate. I've fixed most of those with foam over the last year. I've never had any dust in the sleeping area, even after thousands of miles of trail use. The water tank is by a company called WaterPort. I've had it a few years and LOVE it. It's on a long hose, and we hook it on the door of the camper for a shower. You might be able to add an inline propane hot water heater, but it's not ideal. I've since changed the camper a lot and added a 16 gallon water tank and propane instant hot water heater. I'll do an updated video soon.

As for electric I use a goal zero battery to run all of my lights and charge batteries. My previous camper I had a solar panel mounted to the roof. This time I decided not to as I often camp in the shade. Now I have a solar panel I can unfold and carry up to 40 feet away from my camper.

It’s the Exped MegaMat

Awesome thank you for the quick reply I will be picking up my four wheeler pop-up camper July one very excited

Install is free if you pick it up at the shop in Portland. They aren’t cheap, but people spend 4 times the cost of this on off road trailers, or nearly equal amounts on a camper shell and expensive tent.

I’ve got a friend who Loves her drifter. I think the SP is lighter, and I prefer the side opening doors of the SP. I think the drifter is a great platform for long term travel. It’s got insulation, a fan and some other options. But it’s pricey and heavier than the SP. Check out the BadAssBrunette on IG and KZfaq to see hers.

@@ScenicCityAdventures I'm looking to use my F150 4x4 with limited payload capacity. So I liked the drifter but an intrigued by this camper.

Well, I’m happy to answer any questions I can. My wife and I are loving this one!