Nopon very rarely have the aptitude to become a driver. Could that be related to them not originating from Alrest?

I always thought that Klaus had programmed the titans to orbit the world tree similarly to how he programs them to join with New Elysium.

The “titans everywhere in the world” idea where they’re small and people have to explore reminds me of Wind Waker

I still believe that breath of the wild exists beneath the cloud sea.

You think that lore being inside a model kit is weird? Just look at Kingdom Hearts, where there's vital plot only revealed at Orchestras Lmao, Japan is weird

I hope that one day we get something like future connected but with xc2. I really want to see Rex dual wield 2 aegis swords.

Xenoblade chronicles is starting to get into lotr lore territory. And I love it.

I never realized that Leftheria really looks like the Fallen Arm

ah yes more lore from that model kit that has sat unfinished in my shed for over a year

I always found it weird how without the conduit the entire low orbit station just completely breaks, you'd think with 3 beanstalks all around the equator it would at least keep it somewhat stable. Unless the other 2 stations weren't there, Klaus said many people and many THINGS were warped into different dimensions, so maybe Xenoblade 3 could be a pocket dimension again like Xenoblade 1 where the characters investigate at least one of the other two beanstalks (also I want an evil death god Galea AU)

Personally, i think that the other two beanstalks were transported to other dimensions/universes for two more numbered Xenoblade games. Since neither one is shown in the final cutscenes (whether they were retcon'd or not). I still dont believe that X is "connected" to 1 and 2, its a different universe imo or is VR for one of the Trinity Core Processors to help them develop a personality. But honestly, who knows where Monolith is gonna go with the next Xeno games, but i'm excited either way.

This box info completely decimated my view of how it was in morytha back then. It made me a little sad.

I'm going to contend that the XC2 world does have pirates, it's just that in Japan it's kind of a contentious issue to depict them (because they're a very real issue in SEA).

"No piracy" Theory and Praxis: "Are we a joke to you?" You might say that that quest line is more akin to thieves than pirates, but the same sort of idea is definitely there. Especpally since THEORY HAS AN EYE PATCH AND SABER.

How high is the cloud sea? And taking in cinsideration the geological activity of the earth, maybe the Everest can be above the cloud sea Maybe some titan comunity, speaking and all, maybe using blades themselves

Skyloft is probably out there XD

What if the other trees got destroyed as the world was reset? It would make sense because Rhadamanthus has the Conduit so it didn't get destroyed. Just another thing to think about.

As interesting as it is having the other beanstalks I doubt Klaus’ fixing of the world would only extend to a small part of the world, as far as the other beanstalks go realistically they were probably sent off to another dimension during the space time transition event and wouldn’t be there anymore with only the top area connected to the ring left. Klaus outright said that morytha and the space station are the only remaining parts of his world so that’s what I think happened

That last one... Noponis is out there?

God finally somebody says it, this is just an awesome concept. I've been working on some fanfic ideas myself. So far i suppose im more interested in the wastes and ruins of the civilizations left behind but more habitaed titans in they're own sorta sea tide pool rose are could be fucking sick

We need a new game with a story involving those other 2 trees.

The United States did have two former territories near the equator, The Panama Canal Zone and the Philippines, the Canal Zone was returned to Panama in 1999, and the Philippines was given independence after World War II. Maybe in the Xenoblade 2 universe one of them remained part of the US (maybe becoming states)

I thought the Nopon were shown during Klaus’s giant loredump as just one of the evolutionary paths that led to the different species of humans in Alrest. Indolese are birdlike, but still human, I think Nopon qualify as well, albeit they’re a more divergent strain.

Rhadamanthus, Aeacus and Minos? That's Hades strongest warriors from Saint Seiya...

What if at the end of Xenoblade 1 and 2 , both the worlds merged after Zanza was defeated? Since the worlds in Xenoblade 1 and 2 are closely tied I wouldn't be surprised if they went with this in Xenoblade 3.

World Tree = Beanstalk Zanza/Arglas/Klaus = Giant (Soul of Bionis) Amalthus/Rex = Jack Jack & the beanstalk😮

I have this nut job theory that what if Xenoblade X secretly stands for the roman numeral 10 and it's just so insanely far down the timeline that there are 7 other hypothetical games between 1/2 and X. Given that the nopon know of the monado in X and Tatsu references the homs, I do seriously believe that the nopon in X are distant descendants of the nopon of XC1. That also leads me to think that with the telethia being present in X as well, that there are too many things pointing to the notion of it being a distant future.

I feel like the other two stations were a lot smaller and didnt have their own Elysiums or the labs that Rahdamanthus has they were just to support and maintain the ring

Pirates? That's basically the origin of Argentum, right?

The Bionis / Mechonis have a beanstalk and Alvis just uses a transferal channel to get powers from the Conduit, Give Zanza and Mayneth some of his power and make the beanstalk invisible... oh no... that could work too... Edit : Also Noponis conformed?

I still think that when Klaus mentions humanity being scattered from the incident and when Pneuma shows the orbital ring with only one beanstalk it's possibly the case where the other bean stalks were scatter throughout time and space too. I personally think it would be cool if the other beanstalks were the source of the Ganglion's creators in X and that society is just the small group of survivors from the Klaus incident that were left on the stalks when they were transported. Mimeosomes could just be based around the blade tech and core crystals and the Vita an old war machine. They could have been transported into the future and into a post Chronicles universe. The world in X has ether and a Telethia plus so many in world references to Chronicles it could potentially be the future of the world Shulk creates and Shulk's society failed for some reason (which could be the plot for Xenoblade 3) and X2 could be them discovering the ruins contextually. Elma could possibly be a descendent of said society too, based on her looks alone it's almost as if she's a mix of human and machina.

This is very interesting to think about, knowing what we know now.

Billions of years has passed since the incident. Whoever was in the space station that’s didn’t get Conduit power (like Klaus) died

In concepts like these medium and high orbit stations usually aren't a thing. They aren't called low orbit station, because they are low stations ow many, but because they are stations that were created in low orbit. And low orbit is kinda the most viable place to put a station like this

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Your idea, if it gets enough people thinking about it, will spawn WONDERFUL crossover fics! I've been craving for some honestly. Now we'll get some good ones, and hopefully I think of some too. An idea I wanna chuck out there is that what if it's a society where it encourages their young to go out and explore the world and that's where some of the Titans came from, the smaller ones since they weren't blessed by as much ether and came out smaller, maybe that's how Leftheria was made!

I always imagined Nopon coming from the XC1 universe to the XC2 universe somehow because if the XC2 universe really was like our world before the Conduit's arrival, then it wouldn't make any sense for there to have already been Nopon on Earth because our Earth doesn't have Nopon, obviously. My guess is that Klaus was somehow inspired to make them while blueprinting new life on Alrest (because half of him is in the XC1 universe, and we know that he has at least a vague understanding of what is going on in that universe, i.e. sensing his own death approaching as Shulk & co. work to bring down Zanza).

"...Greek doesn't have a lot a obvious references..." Uhhhh... Ontos, Logos, and Pneuma are Greek... the first two were terms that were used in Greek philosophy before the three became applied to the Christian concept of the trinity. And don't even get me started on Elysium. XD

I had a fanfic where somewhere far away from the XBC 1/2 Setting is the monster hunter Continents and i like to imagine that all the landmasses are continental sized elder dragons like dalamadur loa shang lun and zorah magdaros Just imagine monolith and capcom desided to do a cross over and in a MH game your fleet explore the world then finding this drastically different world and culture. And if you play the XBC side you do the same thing

I think that when Klaus activated the Conduit to create a "new world", it was kind of like slotting a book between two other books in a bookshelf- the books on either side had to move to make way for the new one. This is why the explosion in Xenoblade X that destroys Earth actually emanates from ABOVE the planet- at roughly the location a Beanstalk could have been (refuted only by the towers being on the equator). The explosion was that single location being warped by the events in Xeno 2's world- perhaps the quantity of dark matter in the area from the Ghosts reacted with the dimensional surge and led to the explosion? Spitballing here.

Xenoblade chronicles 3 Grand line of titans

*Karen Smith voice* "If they're from the equator...why are they white?"

"As a form of Nicholas, Klaus means "the people's victory" and implies someone who serves his community and devotes himself to the greater good."

Oh the three Judges of the Hades’ Army from Saint Seiya are actually space elevators.

Nopon are aliens from Mira change my mind

Since we know the orbital station was made to experiment with the zohar outside the earth, what i want to know is if there was 2 more stations on the other world trees and possibly another set on the outer ring, what where the other stations used for? I mean elysium was most certainly the one holding the zohar itself but what did the others do. Where they just habitats (would seem odd given they're essentially built on a particle accelerator ring) or did they do other experiments there? Maybe one of them was for developing artifices, or one of them was the "savorite rebels"? Or (tying back into past xeno series), maybe the other stations had begun attempting to make zohar emulators from the original which could lead into whole other stories developing around those stations Also it was interesting to see you mention the government in xb2 was the same unified government in xbx (or named the same) but X still doesnt quite mess into the series for me. In X it was said earth was just caught in the middle of 2 warring alien sides and fled from them, but in xb2 the earth was seemingly at war with itself, so that still doesnt fit. I am thinking that the explosion which destroyed the earth was klaus's experiment (possibly through the multiverse) as the bad guys in X said they didnt know what caused it, implying it wasnt them nor did they see the purple ships do it, not to mention it looks exactly the same as the experiment explosion and not a planet blowing up. I guess if these 2 games are somehow in the same universe the other world trees could be where they built the colony arc ships?

Wow, this game is a narrative masterpiece. Holy shit, thanks for this video!

I've had this idea in my head for Xenoblade 2-2 to have a custom character like XCX, and they are a Blade, either as an unusual Flesh/Blade Eater, but now I could actually consider them being another Aegis... Not necessarily with Ontos/Alvis' Core Crystal (returned from XC1's world), but maybe as its own; now that other World Trees are a thing to consider, maybe there could be more Aegis Cores on the other stations, that served the same function as the ones we know... And as Blades, are similar to Malos in how he wasn't as connected to the Conduit as Pneuma definitely and more directly was...

i absolutely love love love the idea of just, everywhere else on earth is fine, alrest is just like that

Love the thumbnail picture

I think the reason the ring and beanstalk weren't in Xenoblade 1s flashback because that was a story told by Alvis who may not have all of the data while the Xenoblade 2 Flashback was a memory from Klaus himself

I wonder if by being other larger stations they had their own artifacts like the conduit, or maybe just from being connected by the orbital ring they were affected in a way, like the main stations, that resulted in other worlds being created like xenoblade one by other people. Your Sky Pirate and kind of frontier cloud settlements like idea reminds me of Skies of Arcadia and a bit of Gravity Rush 2. Would love to see something like them again in a xenoblade style.

11:54 "play xenosaga" "also i like haze"

The real lore question: Are Monado blades the human-scale multi-tool version of Mass Relays, or are Mass Relays Titan-scale Monados for slicing through the fabric of Space and Time?

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"three towers" sounds like the Ar Tonelico games ;) (I think the other two towers are destroyed, tho', and there aren't any titans left than those you see in the game)

This is one thing I find interesting about the xeno games, iv only played xenoblade 2, started 1, but not even like 10 hours in the remake was announced, neither geara or saga, but I always found the lore interessting. Its not super complex like kh, but it has the deepness and indescribable feeling, show in connection, this makes me think X was more of a prequal, where the world of 2 takes place, since society was rebuilt there.

I like the idea that one of the worlds trees has survivors on it. Maybe even orbital stations above Elysium! But what would be funnier is a race of super-advanced Nopon with tech from one of the orbital stations. Imagine if artificial blades like Poppi were commonplace because the Nopon there had the tech to mass produce them. What if these Nopon were very imperialist and looked down on Alrest’s Nopon? Or what if they felt compelled to advance those Nopon? Could they start a war? Nopon vs Humans would be really cool!

The Xeno series LOVE its threes...

Ok so if there are two more world trees I think the Ai helped run not just the conduit but also the orbit station so that could mean six more aegis I know I could be very wrong but that could make an incredible villain group maybe the reason the Ai weren’t on radamantionos was because they weren’t mentally stable enough as their raising in the digital world failed them. I just think that could make an incredible story to work on they could have been part off the reason ontos went evil in future redeemed they were in origin and effected ontos the main program and turn him evil.

The idea of life only existing around the equator due to the station ringing around the country along the equator, i thought instantly about one piece and the grand line lol

also, we rarely see any pure displacement hulls, aka ships with no titan, in Alrest. I think the Monoceros does not have a titan, but even if titans are rare, or can't be found, does not prevent someone from building a boat normally, because the principles of displacement work the same regardless of the color of the liquid. So there could be an expanse of wide open seas, where titans are rare, and people are tootling around in sailing ships, sailing between the titans that exist, or even to larger, raft like vessels.

I want to know exactly where the conduit/zohar came from and who the saviorite rebels were.

I think they would still have Titans seeing how Klaus talks about rebuilding the world and not just the area near the WT but they probably could reach their station fairly easily since he could not ''interfere'' so they could have better technology than Alrest but still not enough to reach the other world trees since they don't have access to the Conduit , this could open up so many possibilities for future games but I really hope they don't go for a direct sequels but come up with an entire new story with some vague connection to the Conduit or Zohar Rex's story has come to a closure and the plot twist about true definite connection to the other Xenogames would not have the same impact twice

A long time ago I played this dark little nintendo game called Drawn to Life. Turns out the cute little creatures were dreamed up by a kid in a coma. For all we know, Nopon exist as a part of Klaus's childhood imagination, or maybe some random kids'.

Already told you about it but I'm going to put it here! Here's one of an outcome I'm going to explore: Alrest Humans seem to show up very late on the evolution tree (at Alrest, at least) that their titans are already at the point of ageing, dying even. As shown with Mor Ardain (confirmed to be dying), and Gormotti starting to age (bad crops and nature not doing so great), not sure about Uraya. The Indol titan seems to be younger, as it was explained in game that they descend from Judicium (which died, supposedly Temperentia) and many other titans that have passed away. Indol is for sure an analogy to the Vatican where everything is imported and noting is native, with the exception of the land itself. Indoline people might have affected life on Indol which resulted in no life on the titan. One of the outcomes I thought about was, let's say that core crystals and the cloud sea mutation with the core crystals happened throughout the planet, especially on the other elevators (sparse in between, concentrated like Alrest at the Beanstalks). Since there aren't any Amalthuses running around on the other beanstalks, you can see the full extent of the life Klaus envisioned, with newer titans being born, better blades being made and ultimately life being upgraded each time a titan gets born. You's also be seeing the migratory flux and land ownership in full force, which the former was teased by Indol, Torna at the end of the game, and Mor Ardain with Gormott, where people from old and near-dying titans would migrate to a younger titan, possibly merge with the already existing civilisation there or witnessing their progress and either doing an American history rehash or start living together. For the latter, people waging wars over the ownership of titans just like Ancient Europe, that would more than likely happen when governments, empires and kingdoms are formed and seek other big sized titans to secure for migration just like Mor Ardain, except that they have to go through wars to claim the lands. A question I would have is that, would the Aegises control the remote blades and titans' data? I would assume so, because Klaus said that they were tasked of managing all of them, without mentioning a limit to the range affected. And without the tale and history of Aegises, I wonder how the other Titans and civilisations would look at life, like the people on the Bionis and Mechonis? Where it's an endless sea where living beings only get to live on titans? The blades got weapons as an evolutionary mutation as Klaus said, what would be the next implementation? Better control over the ether, faster cycles before turning into a titan, the guess is as good as mine. Would someone as crazy as Amalthus exist to climb up the elevators but see nothing but ruins? Would Cloud Sea lifeforms encounter pre-experiment humans? if so, would the humans go down and live with Cloud Sea lifeforms, are they even compatible between each other, we know for a fact by Klaus that Cloud Sea lifeforms (titans, lifeforms born from titans and blades) aren't fully organic, their base cells are made out of the Cloud Sea's nanoparticles, while the true Earth humans are organic. What if they can't live on the Titans because of a reaction between the organic cells and the nanoparticles (is that one of the reasons why Klaus was stranded in Elysium?) and have to deal with a dilemma being to either modify themselves to be compatible with Cloud Sea life or stay up there in the Beanstalks, similar to Elysium where they decide to continue living comfortably in their paradise. Would the Cloud Sea humans accept it? After the Cloud Sea clearance by Klaus at the end of XB2, I assume the titans wouldn't gather since Klaus ordered only the ones on Alrest to do so. That event would be very strange and mind breaking for life outside of Alrest. But guess that the logical solution is that the Titans will do exactly like Bionis and Mechonis, just stand up or swim through the ocean now. They would also be surprised at the pre-experiment ruins like Morytha (assuming that the cities under the Beanstalks were preserved and everything else turned into just ocean). That's just a single outcome I explored, (could lead to a fantastic fanfiction lol). You realise how much spinoff/sidequels potentials are there. I just created a what if scenario that doesn't even contradicts the plot or lore of the game, lol.

Wait what video was it that you theorized the Beanstalk is in texas? Even if it's disproven I still wanna watch lol

Luxin you forgot about all of your previous ideas when the Conduit was activated during this because you said that the ring could be a particle accelerator and the event only looked like an explosion because the light from said event was spreading across reality while that energy in the ring upon the activation used the beanstalks as a power refuel and went around the planet multiple times all while the ring was transporting that energy

do you think the three aigises were supposed to be scattered to the other elevators? like a last line of defence in case someone invaded from the inside?

anticlines like titans living under the sea hole countries where its forbidden to go to the surface i liked the idea that tantal lived under the sea if one was like that then id love to see more pluse im a sucker for domed cities and biomes

Skies of Arcadia

Percy Jackson does include the three kings tho. They're still the judges of the dead

That enel flash

Elysium is at least in the Japanese soundtrack as “Elysium, in the blue sky” has the same name in Japanese and English

I'm getting the impression you would REALLY like the idea of Skies of Arcadia meeting Xeno. And holy crap, typing that sentence, so do I.

Uh, did I interpret a certain comment right? Did you say that the bionis and mechonis are zanza and meyneth's blades?

Or maybe Blades in a different setting basically all developed into somekind of devicethat allows the user to do something akin to casting elemental magic

@Luxin Please see this, I’ve had this timeline theory that connects most, if not all, the Xeno games. Now you are definitely more knowledgeable on Xeno lore. But please humor my theory! I’m gonna try to abridge it. (Also note I have only played Xenoblade 1+2) Okay, so in the past of Xenoblade 2 there was a great war, the war that Klaus nukes the planet ending it. This nuking is the same nuking at the start of Xenoblade X! The evacuation ships didn’t know the full scale and knowledge the player has, so they simply thought and interpreted the Earth getting vaporized. When it was actually Klaus! This is supported slightly by the similar destruction of the planet, and Lin saying they plan on searching for Earth in the future, showing that not everyone believes the planet was vaporized. Fast forward A LOT, and the humans of Xenoblade X, became the humans of Xenosage. Having never found Earth and regarding it as a myth of legend. All the while Klaus was reseeding the planet as punishment for his actions. Fast forward again to Xenosage 3, KOS-MOS is see drifting towards an unknown planet, this planet? EARTH! She falls to the surface and her essence and data is collected by Klaus’ nanomachines repairing and reseeding the planet. Copying her, and T-elos’ life data into core crystals. Canonizing their appearance in Xenoblade 2! Fast forward more, Xenoblade 2 and Xenoblade 1 story end. Shulk kills Zanza, and Klaus dies as a result. Klaus was the only thing tying the 2 physical universes and the Conduit together, and Shulk cut that tie. The Conduit then tried to “Reboot”, but Pneuma cut herself off in a sacrifice and Malos was effectively dead, so it had to slip through Klaus into Xenoblade 1 for Alvis. Giving Alvis true god universe altering divinity. Which Shulk promptly requested a universe without gods. Alvis obliged, seen himself as the only “god” left, he simply did just that, he left to a new universe. But in doing so, tore a hole connecting the 2, thus the events of Future Connect. But now where does Xenogears fit? I’ll be honest, I know the least of Xenogears, so I will leave that connect up to you! Maybe Gears is the future of Xenoblade 1, maybe is a prequel to everything and Alvis simply sent himself back to that time with the Conduit to reboot?

Now if only I would get around to playing Xenoblade 2 so I can use that fanfic material...

8:00 to be fair, for some reason the orbital ring is shown to be over the middle of South America, significantly south of the equator, so there is an error somewhere in there.

wait a second, 20XX? the backstory of XC2 takes place at the same time as Mega Man and Pikmin 3?

I have the siren model, and the same book. But not understanding the full Japanese makes me not able to know what the books says.

To apply some real life logic, French Guiana is only slightly above the equator, which makes it the perfect location for stargazing and sending up rockets, which is why NASA and the ESA often conduct joint operations, on the territory. It's possible that the United States bought the territory from France and turned it into their big spaceport colony

Something that’s always seemed odd to me about XC2, and I don’t think you have ever addressed in a video, is how some Titans (notably Mor Ardain and Gormott) seem to walk; I believe you even see them explicitly walking in certain cutscenes. This should be impossible considering the crushing depths of the Cloud Sea, however. Have you come up with any explanation?

What if the other towers went into Shulk's world and became the Bionis and Mechonis?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the Titans themselves generate ether just by breathing? I know that, at least in XC1 that was a thing on Bionis, and it seemed to be implied, in XC2, when you visit Tantal, that it's a thing in XC2 as well. Not to mention Ether miasma. In which case, there doesn't really need to be a specific distance from Rhadamanthus that Titan's can roam, they just go wherever and the ones circling the WT just really like doing that for some reason. (might be the Conduit, might be something else.)

While there's Earth imagery at the end of Xenoblade, maybe Alrest isn't Earth, but some alien world. They are also native to planet Mira. Another thing is that Alrest being home to the Zohar, with beanstalk, and orbital station(s) makes it basically a clone of the Galactic Federation capital Fifth Jerusalem in Xenosaga Episode 3.

I do not have the brain power for this hoooooly shit

What if Skies of Arcadia takes place on the same world? lol

Kind of like Babylon in the Bible how they kept building a tower to the sky

Damn it now I want to play xenoblade 2 now

This gives me a headache lol

If there is other beanstalks they are not in XC2. This is backed by Pneuma in the last chapter after defeating Aion.. who shows the crew a miniature version of Elysium breaking a part, only one beanstalk is present in this presentation.

yeap not enough pirates in this game lol

Play Skies of Arcadia

Imagine xenoblade 3 is about a world without an aegis So it cant defend for itself So around halfway the main character of xenoblade 1 and 2 show up to help the new main character

Doesn't that mean there's a possibility of there being more Aegis's out there? Aegi? I dunno the plural of that. More badass blades

Did the model kit indicate whether the other 2 beanstalks survive the whole conduit events? Just because there WAS 3 beanstalks, doesn’t mean their still IS 3 beanstalks.

These names don't show the lack of confidence in the space elevators, but the total opposite. As Klaus said. They now onl, are a symbol of humanities hubris, but we're meant to show humanities development and prosperity. The space elevators being named after the judges of humans. So humanity was basically trying to say that they would triumph over death

Your speculation about the architect's power being less at distance and all that has no basis in reality. All we know is there was three beanstalks and it was from elisium specifically that humans were cast out and later helped by the architect. There is no mention of other groups of humans cast out from other stations and for all we know those could have been occupied by the other faction in the war.