Good deal..for the guys that got the limo!

The Fiero was maybe the last Pontiac made inside the city limits of Pontiac. The plant was right next door to One Pontiac Plaza and once was the headquarters of the division. John Delorean was instrumental in building One Pontiac Plaza to be the division's new headquarters. Yet he was moved over to Chevrolet and never had a office at the Plaza.

I have an 84 2m4 auto in red. 110,000 miles. No clear coat failure. Also I have the same rims and you cannot find factory size tires for those. They’re all trailer tires, so if you wanted to keep those rims then you’ll have to go with 185/70r13. They’re about 4mph off. I’m driving mine threw the winter in south of Chicago so it is surely going to be fun. Enjoy your Fiero.

The Fiero and the MR2 (Original) were my favorite cars as a kid. They stopped making both by the time I was in high school, but every time I saw either I started drooling. Those two cars still hold a special place in my heart! Cool Video!

I owned an 84 Fiero. It actually broke down less than a block from the repair shop I had just left. And that was one of it's better days. It was so bad, Hoovie would have bought it.

I've remember seeing the Pontiac Fiero when I was young and just thinking how freaking awesome they looked. Good luck with it.

First the EXP now this Fiero!? You sure are introducing me to cars i really love the look of but had no idea they existed... Gonna enjoy seeing what comes of this

I'm excited for this project! I've always wanted a Fiero GT!

That’s so funny, I just got myself an old iron duke Fiero earlier this year, I’m excited to see what you do with it!

I'll bet your neighbors lay awake at night wondering what kind of junk you'll drag up next. I'm going to miss the limo, it was a cool kind of ride. Thanks for sharing! (new sub here)

Looks interesting.. cheers for the content mate.

Good luck with your Fiero parts car. I had one just like that in red where the paint faded to pink. Loved driving The car and used it for a pizza delivery car.

You're so underrated, love your vids.

I had a Pontiac Fiero 2M4 in 1986. It was a decent car, EXCEPT, in the year and a half I had it, it was in the dealer shop 6 times for the same issue. Then, on the sixth time, they finally admitted that it was on a Lemon Law Recall List and I returned the car and got me another vehicle! Was a lot of fun to drive, well, except for the recurring issues!

Out of all the cars I bet the neighbors love that limo the best.

Sweet. I have a 88gt that I swapped a 3800 supercharged engine into a while back. Has only a few minor mods and a canned tune from sinister performance. Its friggen fast as all get out. Especially out of the hole. I used a supercharged park ave automatic in mine.

My brother purchased a first year production Fiero as his first car. It was a pretty good car for the most part and he basically drove the wheels off of it in just over a year before being hit in the rear by a drunk driver totaling that Fiero. He then went out and purchased a new, late second year production Fiero and discovered it was a "garage baby"....It there was a heavy fog or it rained, even a light rain, the car leaked. It used oil at an incredible rate....And the electricals failed on a regular basis. He had to invoke the Lemon Law on that car before it was over with and has not owned a GM product since then.

Cool hope you get the fiero running.. and looking good.. :) ;)

This should be a really interesting project. Pontiac (GM) really tried with this one way back when, to make a cheap fun little car. Today it might be a nightmare, but people will come out of the woodwork to offer advice, and make this a fun purchase. Great content, JR. Enjoy.

Yes wanna see more of this sad to see the limo go but I want to see videos of this thing starting and running again after so many years some old start cold starts . I had that 2.5 4 cylinder in my 85 s10 but headgasket was blown and I wasn't going to tear it apart to fix it for an engine then only makes 80 horsepower lol

Looks like you made the short drive to Hutch! Stuck at 50 on 96 was fun I bet!

Just remember, if you need parts, Chevy Citations (X body) are your drivetrain and rear suspension. I believe the front suspension is Chevette (T body). Be very careful with the body parts. They will be very brittle. Sadly, Pontiac would finally rectify all the problems in the last year of production.

Looking forward to the Fierro project. I've always liked the Fierro but always think about what could have been if it wasn't for the typical GM screw ups.

You should have traded your 21' limousine for another 21' limousine, namely an early '30s Bugatti Royale. It weighed about 3175 kg (7000 lb). Ettore Bugatti planned to build 25 Royales. Unfortunately, the car was $43,000 in 1931 ($560,000 today), and even royalty couldn't afford that during the Great Depression. Only 6 were built, and only 3 of them were sold to customers. A 1931 Bugatti Type 41 Royale "Kellner" Sports Coupe sold for $9,760,000 at a Christie's auction in London in November 1987. The Bugatti Type 41, better known as the Royale, is a large luxury car built from 1927 to 1933 with a 4.3 m (169.3 in) wheelbase and 6.4 m (21 ft) overall length. It weighs approximately 3,175 kg (7,000 lb) and uses a 12.763 litre (778 cu in) straight-eight engine. For comparison, against the modern Rolls-Royce Phantom (produced from 2003 onward), the Royale is about 20% longer, and more than 25% heavier. This makes the Royale one of the largest cars in the world. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugatti_Royale Million Dollar Cars - Bugatti Royale kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p553fKaW3tydZac.html

I wish you good luck on that! It looks like it needs quite a lot.

21FT!! The same length as my "push me pull you" :D

I'm new to your channel...and I'm very pleased with your content. I'm here to stay !

I'm a new sub and I like the videos

No!!! Not the limo!!! But I am quite interested in a fiero lol

I have that same motor and transmission in my 89 S10 and I cannot kill it!

Out of the 48 cars I’ve owned and many of them bmw’s and various sports cars my v6 fiery was one of my favorites.

Nice it reminds me of the one my friend had in high school he had huge subs behind the seats so you sat way too close to the steering wheel and the front shocks were bad so if you pumped the gas enough you can get the front wheels off the ground

Hi guys, love the videos, I'm a UK subscriber and I always loved the look of the fiero, and I'm not sure about the 4 cylinder but understand at least the V6's had a tendency to set on fire, it would be nice if you could verify this for me. Most car hear in the UK in that era tended to be a little bland to be honest, unlike with a lot of your cars in the US.

A lil warning on the Fiero when you fill the oil run it 1/2 qrt to a full qrt over full. the reason why is when GM modified it to fit the rear of the Fiero they put a smaller oil pan on it. Never changed the dipstick

I have two fieros. Ones supercharged and the others bone stock. Pretty great lil cars

i love the ae86 pop up headlights

Sad to see the Limo go, but excited for a Fiero series

Fieros are awesome, dissapointed tho that mine has 2 problems i cant seem to fix. Had fun driving it while it worked.

Amazon sells a manual for just about every engine swap done to a fiero, step by step start to finish. Big thick book lol. Worth getting if you are doing any type of swap.

I owned an 87 for several years in the early 90's. I drove the crap out of it. It was a pretty reliable car for most of the time I owned it. But near the end it all went bad, and I traded it off. I wish you luck getting it running.

GREAT SWAP

I told him it needs the rings gapped and a nice 150 shot 👍🏻

Set yourself up with the 5 speed They are a lot of fun

*i've had 3 fieros back about 2005 - 2007 i had an 85,86,& an 87. All of them were the 2M4 there are remarkably sttill a lot of parts floating around for them and that iron duke is rock solid in those things. never had a minutes problem out of any of mine and they were a blast to drive. and yeah ours got confused with ferrari's and all different manner of other sports cars that looked nothing like that. never heard DeLorean though thats a new one. Want a funny image? iam 6'5" tall and i had to fold up pretty much in half to fit in the fieros but once i was in i was good. getting out was the chore. i had to roll out of it and stand up as i was rolling or fall flat out on the ground on my back. but i loved driving those little suckers bought our first one from DC then the second one from Oklahoma City. and the 3rd one from BFE ohio. i would like another one but this time to modify. i'd like a GT and drop that Anemic 2.8 out and get the adapters to put in an LS THAT would be a hot little ride at that point*

I often see better condition Fiero's in the junkyard. No joke.

You guys were in Hutch!!

I think those guys got u good with that fiero 😂

Thanks!

"Pontiac Fiero" "The poor man's MR2" Pontiac introduced the Fiero to the world when I was a teenager, and I was lusting for a V6 GT.

At least you paid fair market value for the fiero.

The neighborhood must love you guys! i like the vid though

I own a 1985 ferio and it sat for 15 years and the head lights still work all the lights work

I'm wanting to say they make a kit where you can put an LS in a fiero now.

When will the fiero be done in a video. I would like to see Silverado video.

Man, this makes me miss my '85 Fiero GT Notchback. *Sniff*

Man that sucks!!! I would have totally bought that Lincoln and dailyed it in upstate south Carolina 😢 but id do sidepipes

Hey I bought a fiero as my first car when I was 15 two years ago! They’re amazing

I suggest that you use your fiero as a parts car and look for a better running one ....perhaps look for the GT model there are a lot better looking and don't be afraid of the sixes they're really solid engines..

I’ll take the fiero!! I’ve always wanted one; no matter what I’ll fix it up.

If you would have got a Black Fiero it would be like we are thinking the same way because I had a black one. I had to get mine radiator flushed because it kept getting hot. I loved mine till a guy totaled it sitting in my drive way. Their was no fixing it and I could not find another one. Younow own 2 of my favorite cars. Now if you get a Ford Ranger we are going to have to have a talk LOL.

Not an 84 wrong deck lid and it was the 4 cylinder that had the most problems not the 6 , t 4 cylinder block would crack spray oil on the cat and start on fire. I like the fast back gt 's I was the first to put a ls1 in one. Fun car

Didn't fiero had issues in past that they could catch on fire?

check the fuel lines on that lol my buddies stayed true to its name. ....on second thought that seems like its missing too much to go again.

Only issue with that 2.5L Iron Duke engine is the fiber timing gears are a known weak point on these. If you beat the shit out of this engine, revving it to it's limits, that gear can sheer off teeth. The gear is hard to replace but even if timing goes off, no damage happens because of this engine being non-interference. It honestly probably runs fine, this was a very dependable engine, but gutless at 92HP when new. Also, the red line is 4400RPM, so it's a very low revving engine. I own and drive 4 cars with this exact engine setup, no differences at all, and they're gutless, and they always sound like they're in pain, but they go go and go

I set one up with van seats from the back of a GM van that bolted right in to the trashed out seats that were already in it. There is quite a following for these cars if you get on the websites for them.

Wish I could have that limo!

Dieselducy would have loved the car wash segment.

The fiero is great, the 4 makes like 70 hp and they catch fire!!!!!!!! Good times 👍🤣

*FYI same engine setup as a pontiac sunbird / j2000 if you need parts try finding one*

Maybe you could sell it to Tyler, he buys anything!

The first gen very 80s angular lookin one is my favorite... but here in cali you can find a mint fiero for like 1.9k to 3k so i dont see the point of ever restoring one...

Have you ever thought about building a Kit Car on a Fiero chassis? A good deal of Kits will adapt to it.

I can't find the title & artist of your theme song - would you please share that here? Edit: OMG, I RECOGNIZE WHERE YOU WENT. Across the street is the 5th Avenue Dillons in HUTCHINSON. That's where I'm from, so welcome to my town, my dude!

Flip a 97-2002 Camry great resale value easy to work on plus there cheap

Omg, love the exhaust, lolololo........

Perfect candidate for a supercharged 3.8 swap.

ya know a lotta cars up until early 90s u can start it w/a 20$ pair of repo men's auto jiggler keys,I started many older cars/trucks w/these👍🤣u can pull em out after u start the cars too!!!🤣

a bit of a nightmare that state of a car eh? just making it run then driving as a beater seems fitting. restoring that would be crazy.

I've always liked fieros.

My aunt and uncle have an old friends fiero behind there garage. It's possible that there friend may let it go...........as far as we know its 100% complete with a knocking motor when parked.

I never heard of a pepperjacks grill

Hell yes! A FIero! And a "notchie" to boot! Here is some important info if you are new to a Fiero... Did you say it was an 84? If that's the case, that's not a 5-speed. (Unless it had been modded) 84's came with either the 3-speed auto or 4-speed manual. And no you won't see bare metal on the roof. That's similar to fiberglass. The body is made of glass reinforced, SMC (Sheet-molded-compound) and RIM (reaction-injection-molded) urethane panels. The soft, lower door-skins and bumpers are the RIM Uretane While the rigid bits are SMC. All of which are bolted to a full space-frame of steel. There is no metal in the exterior body except for the two cast aluminum panels that are missing on yours. I also think the decklid on yours has been swapped. 84's have a center grille above the engine and the panels to the sides are solid. IF you do fix this up, be sure to get the slotted side panels. That engine needs to breathe. Those shiny trim pieces aft of the side windows are glass, even though they don't go into the interior at all. Don't pry on them. Finally look inside the rear decklid for a small sticker about one by 2 inches, and/or a plaque about 4 by 8 inches that might be just ahead of the shifter. It looks like this. (link) ↓ gafieroclub.org/pics/misc/fireplk.jpg Or even a updated manual or additional service manual. This is evidence that this car was in the recall and has been fixed. You may even be able to look up the VIN and tell if it was in the recall. If these are not present, DO NOT abuse or drastically over-rev that duke! A few of the 84's had bad connecting rods that would let go under heavy load. (with other contributing factors). NOT saying yours has bad con-rods, but it's a slim possibility. Plus you can not just dump coolant in and go. There is a particular fill procedure to "burp" the air out of the system. Since the radiator lines run under the doors (seriously watch where you put a jack!) air can get trapped in there and cause the car to overheat and fry the engine. I'll outline that below. Improper coolant filling, bad con-rods and abuse caused the drastically overhyped, engine fires in less than 1% of the 84's. (no sir. they are NOT deathtraps! They were owned by morons who beat them. It like your EXP. Basically a sporty looking economy car. 1 Open the radiator cap (front) 2 Open the thermostat housing cap and pull the thermostat out. (rear, on engine) 3 Fill through the t-stat housing until coolant begins to appear at the radiator. 4 put the t-stat back in, and close it all up. 5 Run it for about 10 minutes or until warm. 6 Let it cool and open the radiator cap and thermostat housing cap. 7 top it all off again and repeat 4 and 5 (maybe up to 3 times) 8- After the rad is full, only open and add coolant to the t-stat cap until the system is full. 9 maintain coolant level at the thermostat housing cap. If you have any doubts, check the Fiero clubs on facebook. In fact, Please do check them! The best one is a group called "Fiero" run by Matt Snell and Matt Bach. Group link: facebook.com/groups/2204429635/ I suggest joining it and asking about any concerns or questions you have about it there. Plus they can locate and sometimes sell you any part you may need, and put you in touch with companies that make aftermarket parts and upgrades etc. There is also "Midwest Fieros" closer to your area. P.S. I own an 84 Fiero 2M4 SE, 151 cid (2.5liter) "Iron Duke" with a 4-speed manual. And I love the darn thing!

Anyway you could do a follow up on the Limo? It would be cool to see what it's up to.

We have had a total of 10 fieros now we are down to three

what is it with everybody doing fuel stops in the exact same style?

If you’re looking for another limo a real one there is a nice black one on FB marketplace in Hazleton Pennsylvania for $1000. 94 Lincoln all black.

Interesting... lol! Those cars have a strong following actually, might be a worthy project if you can source some cheap parts to complete it.

Nice Free-ero.

It's basically a mid-engine X/A body, so mechanical/electrical parts are cheap, cheap, cheap. That Iron Duke is slow tho.

Yeah so happy you got rid of that limo 6 doors suck! Good luck with the new toy!

My next door neighbor was one of the designer’s of the Fiero! Looked great terrible handling! We had one of the new ones! I heard one of the later ones were better! My mom went spinning round and round on the icy roads and that car was sold quickly. I lived in MI ad if you hit snow or ice just stick your head between your legs and kiss your butt goodbye! Sorry for being descriptive the fiero was terrible!

Looks like an 85 base coupe or sport coupe, fifth digit in the VIN will tell you the model, E for base or M for sport. Those 13" wheels are rare (but not desirable).

You trade something that drives and run and you can sell for parts for a fiero that doesn’t move seriously what an interesting trade to do it everyday

Here for the tractors ;)

Good luck. I love mid-engine cars but this is the worst one made. I've owned the 4cyl and V6 GT and they are both JUNK. Only thing worth keeping are the seats with the speakers in the headrests. I saved the driver side from my last one and turned it into a game-chair about 15yrs ago. Still have my MR2, X1/9 and 914, however; no more Fieros for me.

w/out damage to ignition/wiring may I add

R.I.P limo Why u sold it bro

i had a 86 fiero gt

Fierostore.com had a lot of parts for me when I was redoing mine

cut in half make a bad trike corvette tail lights with a ls1 motor