Serial Killer VS Over Protective DAD | The Case of Tiffany Shore

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Жыл бұрын

"Something's wrong with dad"
Houston, Texas, 1986: 14YO Laurie Tremblay is murdered. The case goes cold, and years pass with more bodies discovered, without any clues on who the killer is. Meanwhile, young Tiffany Shore moves in with her dad after her parent's divorce. She starts to realize he is not as fun as she remembered. More and more controlling, he makes a habit of locking his daughters inside the house when he leaves. As his behaviour becomes increasingly strange and overprotective, the Tourniquet Killer claims more victims: surviving her dad’s sudden rages will actually be the key to solving the terrifying serial killer case.
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@WeDoNotGrantUTheRankOfMaster
@WeDoNotGrantUTheRankOfMaster Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure why I was originally expecting a story about a dad fighting off a serial killer who is after his daughter. What actually transpired was purely sinister. Damn.
@ninchicat
@ninchicat 11 ай бұрын
My thought exactly. That "VS" on the title is so misleading.
@freshgreen54
@freshgreen54 11 ай бұрын
That's what I was expecting too. Wishful thinking I guess.
@urmom9837
@urmom9837 11 ай бұрын
@@ninchicatI mean it’s not really misleading. They were all thinking he was being an overly protective dad with what happened surrounding them. But the plot twisted.
@ninchicat
@ninchicat 11 ай бұрын
@@urmom9837 I'll stick to my opinion.
@Sunnysideup_3142
@Sunnysideup_3142 11 ай бұрын
I thought the same thing.
@cloudnine8842
@cloudnine8842 Жыл бұрын
He did no jail time for “touching “ his children. Only had to register… It you get caught with a lil bit of personal use drugs u better count on some good jail time. Anyone else see how insane this is?
@DadaIorian
@DadaIorian Жыл бұрын
Too many liberal DAs letting criminals go without consequences.
@nicoleross356
@nicoleross356 Жыл бұрын
Yup it's disgusting.
@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim
@PutinsMommyNeverHuggedHim Жыл бұрын
@@DadaIorian no such thing as a liberal DA.
@paulaw9764
@paulaw9764 Жыл бұрын
It's a disgrace, everything is corrupt.
@JacquelynRivera930
@JacquelynRivera930 Жыл бұрын
People don't get jail time for a personal use amount of drugs. It's a low level misdemeanor and they'd rather you go to rehab. Do you not know there's a drug epidemic going on? They don't want the jails filled with these drug addicts. They want them to get help. Even people who have priors. If you get a simple possession and paraphernalia charge it's usually 1-2 years probation/parole.
@quinnhen2325
@quinnhen2325 Жыл бұрын
So sick of stories of sexual abuse being reported over and over, and the “authorities” not taking the information seriously!!! Infuriating and disgusting!
@captainobvious6070
@captainobvious6070 Жыл бұрын
This is why yall need to learn the connection between misogyny and crimes, and vote radical feminists into power.
@jessa95
@jessa95 Жыл бұрын
​@@captainobvious6070 This is bigger than misogyny & radical feminists will only make it worse not better.
@Marconel100
@Marconel100 Жыл бұрын
@@captainobvious6070 No.. why the fuck would you want that? They want more power than men have, they are already equal in rights.. but thats not what they want, they want special treatment, fuck feminists.
@mgreenesco9955
@mgreenesco9955 Жыл бұрын
@@captainobvious6070 dont be ridiculous. Just need the filth out of government, police, judicial system and prosecute the few monsters that do these things. If we promote radical femenism the human race will end, they refuse to be decent human beings let alone breed with a man in a loving relationship.
@jessedavis5992
@jessedavis5992 Жыл бұрын
​@@captainobvious6070this is the dumbest shit I've ever read
@Anonymous1930.
@Anonymous1930. Жыл бұрын
The fact that CPS dismissed Gina's attempts at trying to report her brother, ignored the claims of the parents of the 16 year old victim AND let that monster out without any jail time despite the fact that they literally had evidence against him is just so sickening.
@MandatedReporter
@MandatedReporter Жыл бұрын
My dad had cps called 68 times. Never got help. Finally he's in prison but yea he's getting out in 3 years. Charles Wayne Guerra in California. These types of people should stay locked up and death penalty should be brought up vs release.
@SuperNova-bq2ge
@SuperNova-bq2ge Жыл бұрын
I wish you all the best and the strength to heal
@DoubleAplusJ
@DoubleAplusJ Жыл бұрын
​​@@MandatedReporter same! 26 times in one year. He finally faced prison time and I was left homeless afterwards. He was facing 20+ years but took a plea bargain deal and got 12. They released him after 7 for "good time" and completing a drug and rehabilitation course, lol. Not sure if there was also a "do not rape and torture children" course as well. Social services turned a blind eye time after time and had the nerve to tell me that I could have just told them 😂. I'm still furious. But I'm also alive and doing my best to have a life I can be proud of.
@mcfrenchfry2196
@mcfrenchfry2196 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I feel like CPS doesn’t do anything when they need to AND over Reacts when they Don’t need to 🤷🚮
@wintersoldier4335
@wintersoldier4335 Жыл бұрын
CPS has no authority whatsoever stop asking them to do anything except report....call Law Enforcement and give it time..
@VidralliaArchives
@VidralliaArchives 11 ай бұрын
I'm genuinely glad that this woman works in law enforcement now. Because she's right. The system needs more people who actually care.
@evilswissy
@evilswissy Ай бұрын
if you stopped believing in the disney land fantasy the media has created, you'd actually understand exactly why the judicial system is so broken and corrupted
@v8wr253
@v8wr253 12 күн бұрын
People who actually care are pushed out. the system makes rotten apples because the roots of the tree are rotten
@aenirrinea523
@aenirrinea523 Жыл бұрын
So his sister reported him 3 times. Tiffany's teachers reported him as well, and they did NOTHING?
@clark2491
@clark2491 7 ай бұрын
They were probably profiting off of the cheese pizza he was delivering
@sleepysmartboy6287
@sleepysmartboy6287 2 ай бұрын
Not to mention some people have lost their kids for poverty but this man had a blind eye turned ..
@DreamChaser1252
@DreamChaser1252 2 ай бұрын
'Merica
@ancientruth5298
@ancientruth5298 Ай бұрын
😂if you were reported it doesn't mean the police can arrest any people on the spot they need a good solid evidence 😂 you can't just point out anyone
@JulieGreilh
@JulieGreilh Ай бұрын
@@ancientruth5298they could at the very least have investigated
@user-wl8wl8lp9r
@user-wl8wl8lp9r Жыл бұрын
I’ve seen it over and over- slap on the wrist to sex offenders- makes you wonder what skeletons are in the judges closets. They have more empathy for the offenders than the victims. Personally, I think if someone is let off like that the judges and the offenders lawyers should be able to be sued by any subsequent victims.
@loyisad1211
@loyisad1211 Жыл бұрын
It's not the judges. It's the politicians making the laws.
@silvermainecoons3269
@silvermainecoons3269 Жыл бұрын
@@loyisad1211 Why can’t it be both? Recent headlines about a judge in Texas should make people realize there are a lot of corruption in the judiciary, all the way up to the Supreme Court. Clarence Thomas?
@StanCat4
@StanCat4 Жыл бұрын
Truth. Disgusting
@janiekilkelly
@janiekilkelly Жыл бұрын
That's stupid.
@SieMiezekatze
@SieMiezekatze Жыл бұрын
I recommend you checking the sex offender webpage and memorizing the names, police would do nothing but defend them
@Yorbelize
@Yorbelize Жыл бұрын
I admire the mother and the sister for telling the authorities about their son or brother. I have heard of too many cases where family members blindly support or hide the crimes of their loved ones.
@fredajordan5704
@fredajordan5704 Жыл бұрын
I feel the same way.
@dianawatton7570
@dianawatton7570 Жыл бұрын
It was their Aunt (God bless her) who reported the sexual abuse of her nieces, not their mother!
@johnmalkovich855
@johnmalkovich855 Жыл бұрын
@@dianawatton7570 they are talking about Anthony’s mother Deanne Shore
@audreymuzingo933
@audreymuzingo933 Жыл бұрын
Amen! I don't know why they presented this whole thing as revolving around the one daughter Tiffany, when Gina was the biggest hero here.
@ninchicat
@ninchicat 11 ай бұрын
@@audreymuzingo933 IKR, she tried to keep her baby sister safe even if it's still fail.
@saaramohamed8921
@saaramohamed8921 Жыл бұрын
This is why the connection between overprotective and controlling dads and sexual abuse/violence needs to be investigated more
@proudmen1220
@proudmen1220 Жыл бұрын
So you want just to go ar
@doncarleone973
@doncarleone973 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you Saara. That is a very good point.
@robinmcinarnay7827
@robinmcinarnay7827 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, when it’s on a *creepy* level, likely it’s coming from a creep. Disgusting. At least they had the concern of their Aunt cos if not, they were about to go back to a living nightmare.
@apriljk6557
@apriljk6557 Жыл бұрын
💯
@Lola-AreaCode212
@Lola-AreaCode212 Жыл бұрын
​@@proudmen1220 what is "ar"?
@cvjcg4222
@cvjcg4222 Жыл бұрын
Anthony’s sister did something most families don’t do. Most families choose to keep quiet about sexual abuse going on in the family bcs it’s “embarrassing”.
@Rebecca.Elizabeth
@Rebecca.Elizabeth Жыл бұрын
It's so sad because these girls had to go through so much. Their mother failed them and so did their father. I'm glad their aunt tried to help them over the years and finally contributed to getting them, and the other victims, the justice they deserved. It's honestly disgusting just how corrupt this country is when it comes to sex offenders. They get a slap on the wrist, yet the victims suffer for life.
@Abcdfog
@Abcdfog Жыл бұрын
Yes and it’s getting worse they let violent offenders out all the time
@ulalaFrugilega
@ulalaFrugilega Жыл бұрын
I thought about the mother, too. She must have divorced the man because he was controlling etc. to her, too. Why leave the girls there? I've asked myself the same question about those monster mothers' ex-husbands, who later claim to be shocked y whattheir children suffereed at the hands of the woman they fled in panic...
@ZombieSazza
@ZombieSazza 10 ай бұрын
@@ulalaFrugilegaso my mother and father divorced when I was a kid, she and him didn’t have a good marriage, bad on both sides tbh. She always made out she was a huge victim and wasn’t safe, that the house wasn’t safe for us either… but he had custody of us for 2 years and she never once came back for us, she instead went out and partied with random men. When my fathers mum died he was devastated and didn’t have any fight left in him between the bitter divorce and losing his mother (he never knew his father, he was a one-night-stand-with-a-stranger baby) so his only parent and he struggled with depression. Only at that point did she get custody, not because she missed us, but to hurt my father. Some women abandon their kids without a second thought, my mother did that for 2 years and didn’t think twice about it, and instead only used us as pawns to hurt her ex husband. Guess who grew up with a mentally unstable mother who neglected me, forced me to care for my brother and encouraged my brothers violence against me? Yup, that would be me. My father and I are rebuilding our relationship as adults, he’s genuinely horrified hearing about some of my childhood, he was in tears listening to some of it, but it wasn’t his fault, my mother just wanted to hurt him. He was correct tho, he told her years ago “Kellie, one day your kids will cut all contact with you when they learn who you truly are, but I’ll always be there for them no matter what they’ve done or who they become”, and he was spot on, I haven’t spoken to her in years. Some mothers just don’t actually care about the kids that they have, this case being a prime example of a mother who said “I’m divorcing you and you can have the kids”, but they were failed by both parents whilst I’m lucky to have a normal father.
@saragonzalez7839
@saragonzalez7839 10 ай бұрын
​@@ulalaFrugilegain the case of father's leaving their kids with their mothers I think has something to do with an underlying issue of sexism and that we as a society tend to believe that all women are natural mothers and could never be capable of hurting their own children
@ulalaFrugilega
@ulalaFrugilega 10 ай бұрын
@@saragonzalez7839 certainly, but I've heard about cases, where the men fled their abusive wife, and left kids behind... anyway, ppl tend to be good or bad parents unrelated to gender. everything else is socialization-
@HAI.1
@HAI.1 Жыл бұрын
What is disturbing is that a high percentage of these type of crimes rape/murder/abduction/child abuse/torture etc are committed by fathers who have children of their own. R.I.P to all the victims
@paulaw9764
@paulaw9764 Жыл бұрын
They're all going to burn in hell
@MJBABYPHAT
@MJBABYPHAT Жыл бұрын
oh yes, very distrubing. i watched more than one serial killer documentaries and these men have kids..like how are u kidnapping, r#@ing and killing other people's kids and have your own?
@HAI.1
@HAI.1 Жыл бұрын
@@MJBABYPHAT your right,they should never have kids, evil they are
@fuckyomom875
@fuckyomom875 Жыл бұрын
Ted Bundy was the perfect father and still the most dangerous man
@jsantiago38
@jsantiago38 Жыл бұрын
It's the best cover! I mean who will doubt on a "good" father right? A family guy?
@twtabuttonshirt
@twtabuttonshirt Жыл бұрын
it’s so infuriating how many cases could be solved and people could be saved if only law enforcement took people more seriously edit: obviously I know it’s not all police officers, I am absolutely grateful for those who actually listen and put incredible amounts of effort in helping people, however many pay a big price for those who don’t also idk why some people in my comments think i’m involved in some kind of conspiracy lol i’m just a regular person commenting my opinion
@derekmarks9778
@derekmarks9778 Жыл бұрын
An officer in my hometown was recently fired due to not doing his job and the mother went to the fbi...
@roserocks1979
@roserocks1979 Жыл бұрын
You mean they're suppose to actually do their job. Gasps. A lot of police just don't care.
@Autumnpearly
@Autumnpearly Жыл бұрын
And CPS
@Autumnpearly
@Autumnpearly Жыл бұрын
​@@roserocks1979 especially if it's a woman about abuse or stalking.
@Fresaconminicerezas
@Fresaconminicerezas Жыл бұрын
Honestly
@sushimar0
@sushimar0 Жыл бұрын
Child protected services rarely do what they are supposed to, what their title say PROTECT THE CHILDREN in many many cases. Disgusting!
@LostBoy606
@LostBoy606 Жыл бұрын
Any examples of that?
@ruqayyahqadri8180
@ruqayyahqadri8180 Жыл бұрын
​@Spaniard Seer there's lots of evidence of cps failing; however, there's also many successful cps stories.
@leonnahofer9138
@leonnahofer9138 Жыл бұрын
Don’t blame the government when family and friends need to step up and do something.
@Iehbs
@Iehbs Жыл бұрын
@@LostBoy606this video. Did you even watch it??
@123leyang321
@123leyang321 Жыл бұрын
@@leonnahofer9138 Yet in the example in this video, family had stepped up and done something, but the system still failed.
@gr8fuldeb699
@gr8fuldeb699 Жыл бұрын
I am so sick of law enforcement telling the parents their kids are runaways and that you cant report someone missing until a certain time. Its disgusting. Their job is to protect and serve.
@bridgetmcgiggles4528
@bridgetmcgiggles4528 10 ай бұрын
There is no time period to report a person missing.
@clickchick6861
@clickchick6861 9 ай бұрын
The thing is there's not enough money for every cop follow every lead... People and government need to find another way to solve that issue
@BlossomFlower285
@BlossomFlower285 7 ай бұрын
Facts!
@bandito241
@bandito241 Ай бұрын
Their job is not to protect and serve but to enforce the laws and keep order.
@gr8fuldeb699
@gr8fuldeb699 Ай бұрын
@@bandito241 I agree with both statement
@JennMartinello
@JennMartinello Жыл бұрын
Go, Tiffany! WOW. 🙏✨️🙌 Got me teared up at the end when they said how she became a police officer, joined the army, and more! That's true grit and rising from the ashes.
@meroonaldi2961
@meroonaldi2961 Жыл бұрын
Amen and Amen
@natalievu4399
@natalievu4399 Жыл бұрын
What an absolute heroine!
@sashinkaroseman1512
@sashinkaroseman1512 Жыл бұрын
@JennMartinello She was a sheriff's deputy & joined the Air National Guard, not the Army.
@IwasBlueb4
@IwasBlueb4 Жыл бұрын
Or a cold Psychopath ....They often join the army or police force....in order to feel powerful and bully .....I dislike Tiffany
@Drealmers
@Drealmers Жыл бұрын
@@IwasBlueb4 troll
@nala8219
@nala8219 Жыл бұрын
Reading the title I thought the dad was gonna protect his daughters, but as soon as I heard he locked them inside I knew he was fucked up. I'm disappointed but not surprised that CPS and the court failed them in the first place.
@rickjustus6416
@rickjustus6416 Жыл бұрын
He wasn't overprotective.
@Hendrixtanell13
@Hendrixtanell13 Жыл бұрын
@@rickjustus6416 she said at first she thought 💭 re-read
@rickjustus6416
@rickjustus6416 Жыл бұрын
@@Hendrixtanell13 lol, what are you? Can save a ho? Foh
@nathancarlton9456
@nathancarlton9456 Жыл бұрын
Same
@howdy..
@howdy.. Жыл бұрын
Bro I know the retards that made this video just click baited me by making me think the kid was gonna be the killer
@angieemm
@angieemm Жыл бұрын
I was a teenager in Houston during that time period and I don't remember this at all. I guess that's why my parents were so scared when I wasn't getting home at the normal time or staying out too late. I do recall there being a really bad crime wave in the late 80s and it got better, but now it's a cesspool all over again. Why do people even have children if they're not going to do right by them?
@katielainedesigns
@katielainedesigns Жыл бұрын
Same I graduated from Jersey Village HS in 94! I won’t even drive through my childhood neighborhood now-it’s awful!
@tajaeeast9760
@tajaeeast9760 Жыл бұрын
Bruh you say you’ve been everywhere lying ass
@Mephisto-ie2xg
@Mephisto-ie2xg Жыл бұрын
A fine question.
@ditzygypsy
@ditzygypsy Жыл бұрын
That would make me think even more horribly of Texas than I already do. I had a pen pal in Weslaco for many years who was a teacher and then a principal. I remember her being openly and blatantly harassed by superiors and male coworkers, and I told her to go to her union, since I was working for a university union here in BC at the time. I nearly fell over when she told me that unions are illegal there. That sounds like a terrific policy for employees to be treated wrongly. Perfect for the abusive and corrupt employer. Then I learned more about Texas, and now, today, I am convinced it is simply part of the sewage tank of the US, along with Florida and many mid-western states. Ewww.
@user-ys7eh9kx9p
@user-ys7eh9kx9p Жыл бұрын
Becuse most humans are selfish =/
@sirussid3671
@sirussid3671 Жыл бұрын
What kind of a father does this to his daughters...drug his daughters to ____ ..!! How could police miss that...? My heart goes out to tiffany & amber. How every time these poor girls are failed at every step by the system.👀Wow the courage of girls to testify against there dad is remarkable .
@lucasbaker2527
@lucasbaker2527 Жыл бұрын
Clearly a father who isn’t mentally there
@captainobvious6070
@captainobvious6070 Жыл бұрын
The masculinist systems protect male abusers.
@jessa95
@jessa95 Жыл бұрын
Sadly this is pretty common.
@bec5250
@bec5250 Жыл бұрын
@@jessa95 yep
@lydiapetra1211
@lydiapetra1211 Жыл бұрын
​@@lucasbaker2527 oh he was not mentally ill....he was evil...
@willworkforyarn4893
@willworkforyarn4893 Жыл бұрын
Tiffany, one person can change the world. You are doing it every day!!
@nerd26373
@nerd26373 Жыл бұрын
We appreciate how considerate you are towards the victims and their families. Keep up the good work.
@doncarleone973
@doncarleone973 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate how you deal with these ppl and their circumstances. I'm new here but I really like your videos. Great job👍🏻
@sillavie4322
@sillavie4322 Жыл бұрын
They shouldn't show pictures of her own daughter though.
@dalfifran7572
@dalfifran7572 Жыл бұрын
How the F^k they allowed him to get away in the first place after 2 of his own daughter testified their father SA-ed them?
@magical8013
@magical8013 Жыл бұрын
I have a question, why do people say SA -ed them? You know you can say sexually assaulted right? Why not use the word he actually did? This pervert doesn't deserve to have what he did not be known to the public, some people don't know what SA means.
@inoidontyes3839
@inoidontyes3839 Жыл бұрын
@@magical8013I think that started because some content gets censored when they use the full word and then it just becomes a normal way to say things. Trends start for dif reasons
@captainobvious6070
@captainobvious6070 Жыл бұрын
​@Magical 801 CENSORSHIP bro. Stop getting angry over it.
@captainobvious6070
@captainobvious6070 Жыл бұрын
The masculinist system tends to give a pass to males.
@magical8013
@magical8013 Жыл бұрын
@Captain Obvious If the guy would have said sexually assaulted he would have been censored? 😆 🤣...come on its a comment.
@valkylva
@valkylva Жыл бұрын
I’m tired of CPS taking the word of the parent in question. There should be full on investigations.
@NatureLover-62
@NatureLover-62 Жыл бұрын
@ Valkylva, CPS should be investigated as they are notorious for letting down children in unhealthy environments on a daily basis. The entire system needs more case workers, more training as well as some type of management oversight board of each set of case workers that are ensuring that children no longer fall between the cracks and are protected and secured into healthy environments free from harm, abuse as well as proper nutrition, schooling and most importantly safety!!! It’s a systemic problem that has hampered the system for decades. Unfortunately too many children grow up with serious mental issues but for some they end up deceased as well.
@carson9359
@carson9359 Жыл бұрын
No doubt. It's better to check and be wrong instead of do nothing at all.
@crypandora66
@crypandora66 Жыл бұрын
They usually do. At least up to 5 years ago as I know
@calij586
@calij586 Жыл бұрын
I agree! Did they ever both to do a gynecological exam on the girls? Wouldve told them all they needed to know
@rickjustus6416
@rickjustus6416 Жыл бұрын
For every one that is legit, 20 are not.
@Chlomin
@Chlomin Жыл бұрын
Man, was excited seeing the title Overprotective Dad vs. Serial Killer hoping for a satisfying story of dad defeating the SK saving his girls. The twist was disgusting, cliche and disappointing.
@redpilledtrooper7523
@redpilledtrooper7523 Жыл бұрын
NGL, I was picturing some Tank of a father coming in and unloading a glock on some dude trying to take his kids. I guess these criminals never target places with Based Fathers.
@nealgrimes4382
@nealgrimes4382 Жыл бұрын
That's reality for you.
@900ug
@900ug Жыл бұрын
fym "cliche"?? bitch this is real life wtf
@alex-qd6of
@alex-qd6of Жыл бұрын
@@redpilledtrooper7523 no based dads in Texas...😮‍💨
@Mangolite
@Mangolite Жыл бұрын
Sorry to disappoint you that real life is not an M. Night Shyamalan plot twist for you.
@IntrepidsRus
@IntrepidsRus Жыл бұрын
So proud of the Aunt stepping up!
@JimRevolucion
@JimRevolucion Жыл бұрын
any nice white girls there?
@3emeraldangel
@3emeraldangel Жыл бұрын
To hear the heartbreak in the aunts voice when she discovered her suspicions were in fact true, it's horrible. The system failed them miserably.
@isabellemarcus5749
@isabellemarcus5749 Жыл бұрын
I was sexually assaulted by my biological sperm giver from 5-10 years old until I finally got to move to my mom. The cops did nothing, he didn’t see a day in jail, my half siblings live with him now… the system is disgusting 😔
@frenchy1987
@frenchy1987 9 ай бұрын
😢 I'm so sorry Hun
@laslobas1234
@laslobas1234 9 ай бұрын
I’m sorry this happened to you as well. America is a culture of rape and violence
@qjtvaddict
@qjtvaddict 5 ай бұрын
Sounds like the Russian empire before 1917
@haileyburke903
@haileyburke903 3 ай бұрын
Fuck man. I’m sorry that happened. I wish I could take all your pain away 😢
@Julzsavedandsetapart
@Julzsavedandsetapart 2 ай бұрын
I'm sorry. I went through it too.
@samfucyu6196
@samfucyu6196 Жыл бұрын
The respect to the families, victims and the narration arenall top notch. Really well executed. I can't believe people can be this twisted... And that the man would SA his own daughters 🤮
@K.Spade7902
@K.Spade7902 Жыл бұрын
He was sick! Now he's DEAD!!
@terriegilley6574
@terriegilley6574 Жыл бұрын
I don't know why you would be shocked about what he did to his daughters. He kills and SA girls for as a hobby.
@Kat.Evangeline
@Kat.Evangeline Жыл бұрын
Killer is on the loose - so let's send the 9 year old to the store (?)
@samfucyu6196
@samfucyu6196 Жыл бұрын
@@Kat.Evangeline Yeah that was fckin stupid too
@terriegilley6574
@terriegilley6574 Жыл бұрын
@@Kat.Evangeline sadly the absolutely cruelty of some people and stupidity of others is limitless.
@wizzardofpaws2420
@wizzardofpaws2420 Жыл бұрын
There's a show about him and his daughters talked about how poorly they were treated, starved, kept as prisoners. Glad he's gone from society.
@Autumnpearly
@Autumnpearly Жыл бұрын
Could you please tell me the name of the show? If you know it of course
@mss1500
@mss1500 Жыл бұрын
​@@Autumnpearly lmk if u find out pls
@chickpeademon8515
@chickpeademon8515 Жыл бұрын
@@Autumnpearly Evil lives here.
@nealkelly9757
@nealkelly9757 Жыл бұрын
If this happened in a Democrat state then the killer would still be alive. Long live Texas.
@debralucas9519
@debralucas9519 Жыл бұрын
​@@nealkelly9757That from the state that did nothing but lie after 20 more kids were slaughtered at school. Gtfooh 🤡
@breesmith7520
@breesmith7520 Жыл бұрын
I’m sorry but how is raping your own teenage daughters not life in prison? How is that not the most revolting despicable crime. Worse than murder honestly. You’re their father. And they’re children. That’s so many levels of disgusting and horrifying. And I hate that I might one day make casual conversation with someone like this. No one should have to serve coffee to. Or ring up groceries. Or be neighbor to. This type of person once it is known who they are. I’m sick thinking a man like this can be let out and he just loves among us and those girls can’t even have their trauma validated
@CourtneyTunbridge79
@CourtneyTunbridge79 Жыл бұрын
Tiffany, you're already making a HUGE difference, thank you.
@sugarhiccup2584
@sugarhiccup2584 Жыл бұрын
how
@Erebus.666.
@Erebus.666. Жыл бұрын
Go on Tiffany, you are an absolute BOSS. You are not a victim, you're a warrior. Hope life treats you well from now on.
@carejensen7889
@carejensen7889 Жыл бұрын
I love that you don't glorify the serial killers in your videos- like most crime channels do- and focus on the victims' povs keep up the good work.
@lizervations
@lizervations Жыл бұрын
Child Protective Services...never fails to disappoint. They always find a million reasons not to do their jobs. I'm glad he got caught. I pray healing and strength over Tiffany and the other victims' family members.
@wesss9353
@wesss9353 10 ай бұрын
Or they take kids away from parents that don't need to be taken away
@user-uo4ro8jo4i
@user-uo4ro8jo4i 8 ай бұрын
CPS, IRS, FBI, CIA, NSA... pretty much all of them. The issue is, the FBI CIA and NSA aren't only a failure, they aren't even constitutional.
@fawamaco1848
@fawamaco1848 Жыл бұрын
I don't think he was persuasive to the cps, cps just doesn't care about abuse and it's so frustrating.
@mochimochi7669
@mochimochi7669 Жыл бұрын
So the mandated reporter (teacher) reported suspicions as required and nothing was done. RIP to all the beautiful souls taken.
@tamaraann5926
@tamaraann5926 Жыл бұрын
I can’t believe parents would send a kid to the store knowing there’s a killer out there targeting children?!🤦🏻‍♀️
@JimRevolucion
@JimRevolucion Жыл бұрын
any nice white girls there?
@k_j_n1242
@k_j_n1242 Жыл бұрын
💯💯💯 Right! And not just a kid, a very young kid. The issue is, predators exist, they are out there just waiting to pounce on any vulnerable looking person, which of course, a child is. My daughter is 10 years of age, I would never send her to the shop because I know that if something were to happen, she is to young, and physically weak to give herself the best chance of getting away. It's sad that it has to be that way, but I choose my children's life every single day. Madness! It's a jungle out there.
@nostalgiagatuna
@nostalgiagatuna 11 ай бұрын
I thought the same wtfffffffffff
@ghostdemon7936
@ghostdemon7936 11 ай бұрын
Me neither. Talk about handing their child on a plate to a predator.
@TrumanStalls18
@TrumanStalls18 9 ай бұрын
Before the 90s and even after sometimes, people were really naive, trusting, and negligent towards their children.
@shivvWhore
@shivvWhore Жыл бұрын
The whole incest thing is SO much more common than we want to believe. Most cases of childhood sexual abuse is perpetrated by family or close family friends, it's so fucked up.
@ednaatluxton4918
@ednaatluxton4918 Жыл бұрын
13 years too long. Brave girls. They saved many more possible victims
@elizabethandeldinkamberovi1929
@elizabethandeldinkamberovi1929 Жыл бұрын
These are above Netflix quality documentaries, you've got a special talent to put together these videos my friend. Best crime channel on KZfaq, me and the wifey appreciate you!
@francelinamommyof3
@francelinamommyof3 Жыл бұрын
Agree! This channel is 🔥
@winifredherman4214
@winifredherman4214 Жыл бұрын
The “ wifey”? If a man referred to me that weird, impersonal way, I’d be out of there fast!
@elizabethandeldinkamberovi1929
@elizabethandeldinkamberovi1929 Жыл бұрын
@@winifredherman4214 yea that's probably why you don't have a man you clown, nobody asked for your opinion either so why don't you just keep it to yourself or maybe go tell your dildo
@shoshanawolfe7107
@shoshanawolfe7107 11 ай бұрын
I love being called wifey…
@elizabethandeldinkamberovi1929
@elizabethandeldinkamberovi1929 11 ай бұрын
@@shoshanawolfe7107 yea my fiance does to lol
@Whitetigerfyre
@Whitetigerfyre Жыл бұрын
People really need to take alot more notice when fathers become obsessive and that increases intensity with aggression, sometimes physical and verbally abusive outbursts , its rarely to do with protecting and love but practically always sexually perverted, the rage and obsessiveness IS actually sexual frustration .
@itzjess88
@itzjess88 Жыл бұрын
Reading this I'm now worried about my daughters.
@hildia5439
@hildia5439 Жыл бұрын
Both girls were so brave, doing whatever they could to protect each other. So proud of them.
@fredajordan5704
@fredajordan5704 Жыл бұрын
His two daughters are so beautiful and head-strong. So sad what their father had put them thruogh, and so sorry for all his victims. Glad he`s finally gone now.
@evelyn38927
@evelyn38927 Жыл бұрын
is insane how 53 girls are still unknown.
@Mr.Guild1971
@Mr.Guild1971 Жыл бұрын
every serial exaggerates but 53 may mean 10-35 or 53
@AC-iz7eh
@AC-iz7eh Жыл бұрын
He probably exagerated, he was already caught so he had nothing to lose by lying. Sometimes killers pull this move to try and negotiate or buy more time before sentencing
@bethaniel841
@bethaniel841 Жыл бұрын
What a resilient young lady! Her courage and strength are remarkable. Her young daughter has one hell of a mother ❤ sending happiness and positivity
@marieslabbert6009
@marieslabbert6009 Жыл бұрын
Tifanny as well as Amber are such brave girls. To think they lived all those years with a serial killer.
@robinmcinarnay7827
@robinmcinarnay7827 Жыл бұрын
I’ve never heard of this case. It’s so weird how serial killers let some live and others they do not.
@fredajordan5704
@fredajordan5704 Жыл бұрын
Robin Yes this fact is puzzling to me, too.
@WideAwakeHuman
@WideAwakeHuman Жыл бұрын
They’re just humans too - they change their minds and have their own weird motivations
@chlosaxon
@chlosaxon Жыл бұрын
i guess it depends on the state, evidence and how remorseful they are 🤷‍♀️
@crypandora66
@crypandora66 Жыл бұрын
Some like to leave a witness
@calij586
@calij586 Жыл бұрын
I honestly think that they are not allowed to kill some victims. As my Mom always says, there are so many mysteries in this life
@kalikalimai1
@kalikalimai1 Жыл бұрын
As a survivor, this story touches my heart. Thank you for your sensitivity in telling this story about the sisters.
@xandergames1211
@xandergames1211 Жыл бұрын
man bro everyone that that comment survived that.
@rosajucglaserra4506
@rosajucglaserra4506 Жыл бұрын
Moltes gràcies! Thanks so much! I'm now 61 and, as a victim of sexual abuse in my childhood, I'm very grateful for your channel. People must know the strenghth and fortitude of childs
@Real_g.s.
@Real_g.s. Жыл бұрын
What a terrifying story. Bless Tiffany, I am glad she is finding the peace that she never had as a child.
@underwearmaintenance
@underwearmaintenance Жыл бұрын
This is such a horrific case. So terrible. What I don’t understand is why the call him the “tourniquet” killer. A tourniquet is used to stop bleeding. A “garrote” is used to strangle. You would think experts would know that. Weird thing for me to get hung up on, but it confused me.
@kindtimetraveler
@kindtimetraveler Жыл бұрын
I commented the same thing!!! Glad I’m not the only one who was bothered by this!!!!
@thestarz5190
@thestarz5190 Жыл бұрын
because its a tourniquet by definition
@underwearmaintenance
@underwearmaintenance Жыл бұрын
@@thestarz5190 You need to look up the definition. It most certainly is not.
@underwearmaintenance
@underwearmaintenance Жыл бұрын
@@thestarz5190 www.letmegooglethatforyou.com
@thegreencat9947
@thegreencat9947 Жыл бұрын
@@kindtimetraveler there are millions of us out there..😂
@Erebus.666.
@Erebus.666. Жыл бұрын
Well done to the aunt for trying to help these girls. Calling the CPS on her brother, only to have it disregarded.
@CupcakeMcGregor
@CupcakeMcGregor Жыл бұрын
You have a knack for making old cases seem new, thanks for the videos!
@bruhverlybruh4012
@bruhverlybruh4012 Жыл бұрын
Who else stuck the Christmas bow on their forehead as a kid?
@debbieprokop9401
@debbieprokop9401 Жыл бұрын
The narration, the voice, is just one of the reasons why I enjoy coming to this channel! Nothing uploaded has been unseen by me. Thank you Unseen dude ; )
@willakana3369
@willakana3369 Жыл бұрын
My pleasure yo ;]
@SynthoidSounds
@SynthoidSounds Жыл бұрын
This type of case is exactly what the death penalty was created for. Infinite respect for these sisters having survived through all this, their courage and getting on with their lives. 13 yrs to finally pull the plug on this nauseating POS scum???
@audreymuzingo933
@audreymuzingo933 Жыл бұрын
I'm against capital punishment for multiple reasons including the executions of many people who later turned out to be innocent ....but .....yeah, if there's any kind of person who deserves it it's a piece of dog sh like this guy.
@ufoufo9182
@ufoufo9182 Жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more.
@annied4084
@annied4084 Жыл бұрын
What the hell! There have been complaints to CPS and nothing happened????
@tat1790
@tat1790 Жыл бұрын
Not forgetting their mother ran off and left them and then the horror these girls endured from their dad and knowing all the horrific things he did. These girls are remarkable, a total miracle really how they survived and who they have become. I’m sorry they were extremely let down by those that should have loved and protected them. I’m glad they had the support from the rest of the family. Shame on the police for not paying attention sooner.
@sugarhiccup2584
@sugarhiccup2584 Жыл бұрын
I think its their mothers choice..if she wants to give full custody to the dad..
@jodyramsay8472
@jodyramsay8472 Жыл бұрын
Don’t blame the mother for the fathers sins. He is the problem
@captainobvious6070
@captainobvious6070 Жыл бұрын
The daughters most probably thought their father was good and mommy was wrong for leaving him. Mommy got fed up with the attitude and gave up.
@audreymuzingo933
@audreymuzingo933 Жыл бұрын
I couldn't even guess how many stories I've seen where single moms or their second husbands/boyfriends abuse the kids, but I never see commenters blaming the kids' biological father for having left them in danger.
@captainobvious6070
@captainobvious6070 Жыл бұрын
@@audreymuzingo933 You're correct. Mysogynists have no Logic.
@Karenanneseven
@Karenanneseven 8 ай бұрын
This is one of the best true crime channel on KZfaq 👌
@margaretlee-reed814
@margaretlee-reed814 Жыл бұрын
Tiffany and Gina ... Bless You and Thank You for reporting over & over. And, now sharing your story to educate the general public, Law Enforcement, FBI, CPS et al. Thank You for giving credit ... to the person (and victim) who stood up to him.
@Mr.Guild1971
@Mr.Guild1971 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like The Mother was quite a piece of work. Never knew the girls whole side of the story.
@blondegiraffe2023
@blondegiraffe2023 Жыл бұрын
Bless you girls, going through life without a neglectful mother and father. You got dealt bottom of the barrel but rising above it like you are shows true heroism.
@domoetker3967
@domoetker3967 9 ай бұрын
This is why the connection between overprotective and controlling dads and sexual abuse/violence needs to be investigated more 😒😒😡😡📢📢
@_gw33do_
@_gw33do_ 8 ай бұрын
As a man and a father of two girls this really makes my blood boil. You are supposed to be your girls protector and this scumbag took his girls trust, innocence and so much more as well as other fathers girls. He earned his outcome; bless all the girls and families involved.
@zima627
@zima627 Жыл бұрын
Another example of how and why the justice system fails us. If you think parents like this aren't directly the cause of the homeless problem, think again. 99.9% of the issues homeless people face stem from childhood trauma. Protect children better and you could eventually solve the homeless crisis. Or keep sweeping it under the rug.
@cynthiagreene7833
@cynthiagreene7833 Жыл бұрын
The system really let them poor kids down,what a shame. I am so proud of what she is doing with her life and making a difference in this world god bless them both.
@fuzzamajumula
@fuzzamajumula Жыл бұрын
Way to go, Tiffany! In spite of your challenging childhood, you survived and saved lives! You chose a career that puts you in a position to continue to save lives! Thank you for overcoming the horror you lived through and becoming a hero.
@petronecosmetics9230
@petronecosmetics9230 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Tiffany! You and your sister helped stop that murderer.
@kahlinefee5585
@kahlinefee5585 Жыл бұрын
Du machst wirklich die besten Kurzdokumentationen auf diesen Gebiet. Sehr sehr gute Arbeit...an alle die mitarbeiten👍 ✌️
@alyssahamlett
@alyssahamlett Жыл бұрын
Your videos are incredible the editing the stories all of it you do an amazing job
@hq_FiRE
@hq_FiRE Жыл бұрын
What the hell does CPS even really do?
@kyreeseq
@kyreeseq Жыл бұрын
in my experience they be on your ass if you're on your ass tryin your hardest, but don't give a shit about those who don't give a shit (or worse), "cause you know...that'd mean a bunch of actual work to be done. /pardon my French, I'm upset/
@Mr.8r1c3-8usch
@Mr.8r1c3-8usch Жыл бұрын
They Recon or wait for a neighbor to call them about at risk children, in which the parents dont particularly care. They swoop them up, Then sell them overseas ( American Underground Sextrafficing) And/Or sell them for their organs, Blood & Adrenochrome. To many many many entertainers, politicians, government officials. Technically Vampirism & Its rejuvenative effects are a real thing. Oh, & a Huge high, They say.
@Mr.8r1c3-8usch
@Mr.8r1c3-8usch Жыл бұрын
​@@kyreeseq Youre 109%
@TheTwinFiles
@TheTwinFiles Жыл бұрын
There are a few problems with CPS: Understaffed, overworked and underpaid. However with all that said, there isn't an excuse for negligence. My channel covers true crime and we covered the case of 4 year old Rilya Wilson who went missing for 15 months and no one noticed. Rilya was given to a woman who claimed to be her grandma but CPS never checked (spoiler alert, she had no relation to Rilya). Rilya was supposed to get monthly visits from her social worker but by the time she was checked again by a completely different social worker, she'd been gone for over a year. And when they FINALLY realized she was gone, CPS still WAITED 6 days to report her missing to the police. Unfortunately, Rilya was never found and is thought to be dead.
@hq_FiRE
@hq_FiRE Жыл бұрын
@@TheTwinFiles :( I hope she's found alive.
@familycrimestories
@familycrimestories Жыл бұрын
It is SO disturbing that the individuals closest to us are typically the ones that hurt us the most...
@rickjustus6416
@rickjustus6416 Жыл бұрын
If you have fucked up people yes. Not everyone's family is this way. Still incredibly disgusting by the father
@captainobvious6070
@captainobvious6070 Жыл бұрын
Tell that to masculinists who shame single mothers and mothers who divorce and get custody.
@wolfiebunnyshopofficial3923
@wolfiebunnyshopofficial3923 Жыл бұрын
didnt realize this was new, been binging for a few hours. always a true crime fan and always will be. you got a sub!
@Islandgalwen
@Islandgalwen 10 ай бұрын
I can only imagine how difficult it would have been going through what these young women had to endure but to also find out that your father is a serial killer as well. Wow! It’s truly amazing to see how well rounded they are today after everything.
@isaa.5187
@isaa.5187 Жыл бұрын
The justice system is a joke
@ElSantoLuchador
@ElSantoLuchador Жыл бұрын
CPS is awful. I adopted a baby that was born addicted to drugs and had to spend 30 days in the ICU. They gave the birth parents nearly a year to go to rehab and they never did. Once he fell and since he was young (soft head) we took him to the ER. The next day CPS showed up at daycare and took him away and gave him to foster parents. Two days before Christmas. We had to get a lawyer and go to court twice before the judge gave him back. I hate CPS. --- This all happened when we were foster parents before adoption. The ER visit resulted in a clean bill of health. It was protocol or some BS that they kidnapped him from daycare (no heads up at all). We had to go to court twice because they needed some DSHS doctor to examine the...uh...exam. He testified that any concern over abuse was ridiculous. DSHS said some crap about 'an abundance of caution' in their defense. Everyone in the courtroom (on zoom) hated them as much as I did. Bastards. Sorry for veering off-topic. Far away from any serial killers. Any talk of CPS always triggers me.
@heksedansd.2919
@heksedansd.2919 Жыл бұрын
For the daughters :❤ For the other girls: 🙏❤
@Waln3ts2087
@Waln3ts2087 Жыл бұрын
What that man did was disgusting. He doesn’t deserve to be called a father. I’m glad they got justice.
@celeste.cutz2020
@celeste.cutz2020 Жыл бұрын
This world is a better place, now that this POS was executed. Death row is the only place he belongs.
@JustSomeGuyLV
@JustSomeGuyLV Жыл бұрын
God bless that girl for having courage to confess to her aunt about all the abuse she suffered from. Hadn't she done that god knows how many more girls would have been killed before that murderer would get finally caught.
@yankeerose-fo4su
@yankeerose-fo4su Жыл бұрын
Kudos to Tiffany! She saved lives and is an amazing person for what she did and is doing with her life & studies. ❤
@katielainedesigns
@katielainedesigns Жыл бұрын
I am a 4th Generation Houstonian born in 1976-I remember this and other awful cases (gang initiation m**der of 2 teenage girls walking home, I-45 Freeway Serial M**ders) very well. I was in HS from 1991-1994 and crime was terrible-even though we lived in the suburbs my parents and my friends parents were all super protective and we used to gripe about it but how thankful we all are that they were! Houston crime continues to get worse and worse-it’s really sad how awful it’s become……
@mn6878
@mn6878 Жыл бұрын
Good ol H(ell)-Town
@trppytoes7506
@trppytoes7506 Жыл бұрын
I absolutely love your videos man!
@thialove2121
@thialove2121 Жыл бұрын
Inspiration for all. Amazing story of healing and recovery: thanks!!!
@judyrosey
@judyrosey Жыл бұрын
An actual story I've never heard!!! Well done.
@SnowWhite717_
@SnowWhite717_ Жыл бұрын
Whyyyyyy did it take so many victims before they realized he was a serial killer? A tourniquet isn’t too common and he hade every one the same way??? Also, CPS needs to give more weight to what children are saying than the adults, of course a parent or guardian would lie to cover their own azz…. They need to put more effort into the follow up than just take them at their word…. 🙆🏻‍♀️
@Kal-qn9rw
@Kal-qn9rw Жыл бұрын
You would be surprised how often child protections fail, it's not because the policies aren't in place, it's because imbeciles and enablers are rife through child protection services. Plenty of good people work in child protection services, but much like the Catholic church, there is a darker side. Bad bad people are attracted to positions that give them power over the vulnerable.
@captainobvious6070
@captainobvious6070 Жыл бұрын
The system tends to ignore s.a claims from girls and women. Which is why the metoo movement started.
@gordonramsdale
@gordonramsdale Жыл бұрын
Because the mental requirement to be a cop is just to be able to write your own name on a piece of paper
@axessenter
@axessenter 9 ай бұрын
The part about CPS made me so angry!! I have 5 friends who I know of that tried to find help in the system. CPS went to their homes for 3-5 minutes or had coffee with their parents and left. One of my friends was punshed by her mother afterwards throwing chairs at her and screaming at her to never do that again. My best friend was molested by their father for most of their childhood. They told me everything while sleeping over at my apartment 1 night. At 11 they searched for an address to turn to, and took trams and walked by foot lieing to their parents to get CPS on their dad. They were scared of what he would do, but they wanted to protect their siblings who were getting closer to the age where the SA started for them. CPS only came over to ask whether their father was making enough money and left. So my friend collected evidence for 3 fucking years, recorded everything that was happening to them, provoked their father on purpose only to slowly build a case against him at 14. They got no help from a system supposed to protect them. But they would have done anything for their siblings so that's what they did! And they did it on their own! And what did they get for it? Their mother blamed them for their siblings not having a father, Mahtab was forced to take on the role. Their mother would use their credit cards whenever she wanted, if she called they had to be home. When they came out as non-binary she berated them and denied them their autonomy. She confiscated their binders, that was the first time ever Mahtab called me and confided in me for real. When Mahtab slept over that one night and told me everything, I'll never forget how they closed it:"You know, my family has a high chance of breast cancer, too? If ever I get it... I'm not going to get treatment, cuz I'll finally be able to die." That was the moment I knew deep down that we wouldn't be sitting on a bench by the lake in our old years, talking about life. I tried to help them as best as I could at 20, they were 23 almost. But we were both struggeling and it wasn't easy. Sometimes we wouldn't call for months. But we both knew that if we were hanging from a cliff, the other person would be there to pull each other up, even if it meant possibly being pulled down as well. They were a fighter! But February 2019 they lost the fight at a station that was never specified to me. I couldn't be at their funeral, I was only called afterwards as my name was mentioned in their letter. I never got to read the letter cause meeting with their family wouldn't have been safe. I had gifted them a binder and a T-Shirt saying "aggressively Queer" from Redbubble. They laughed and carried me around the street that's how happy they were. I never got any of those things to remember them. They wore them when they jumped. I have a shirt of my own though, although to this day it's hard for me to wear it. I was so angry for such a long time, at their family, at MYSELF, and especially at CPS as well. Who sees a 11 yo kid walk into their building distraught begging to be rescued and don't take it seriously? If they just had ONE person who cared when they needed it the most, they might still be alive today. The system failed them! In my eyes, CPS had as much a hand in their death as everyone else that made them feel unwelcome and unheard. My parents were talking about legally adopting my friend, but it was too late, they never got to, although my best friend would have loved them. My family had only met them twice, but everyone had fallen in love with Mahtab. I remember having to call my sister, my mother who broke down, my dad slamming his fist, kicking the table in the background and screaming insults at noone. Their death has ripped a hole into my chest I have not been able to fill ever since and that is still impacting my life. If there was anyone I would have wished a happy and good life, it would have been them. Because Mahtab was the fucking best! The system is a fucking joke! And this case just further proves that.
@savage_optimist
@savage_optimist Жыл бұрын
Im blown away by the quality of this video, new sub, gotta go binge your videos now! 😂🎉
@solomoon3083
@solomoon3083 Жыл бұрын
My dad drugged me when I was a child too. He did horrible things to me and my older sister and my mom. Who did nothing to protect us. There are such horrible humans in this world. Thank goodness he took himself out when I was 6. Wish my “mom” would’ve went with him.
@gfys6323
@gfys6323 Жыл бұрын
I am so so mad at the mother who was happy to abandon her two little girls. Wtf was she thinking?!
@Culera220
@Culera220 Жыл бұрын
She is and she was a pu***y so here are the consequences she should nt be a mother
@sugarhiccup2584
@sugarhiccup2584 Жыл бұрын
I think its their mothers choice..if she wants to give full custody to the dad..
@gfys6323
@gfys6323 Жыл бұрын
@@sugarhiccup2584 I understand that. I'd thought of that as well. However, from the youtuber's way of putting across the information it sounded like the mother had "abandoned" her children..and I understand the difference between abandoning and giving up to.. It actively sounded like 'giving up' What do you think?
@sugarhiccup2584
@sugarhiccup2584 Жыл бұрын
@@gfys6323 Yes, i agree with you..But she still should have fought for custody of their kids since its the mother who should end up with the kids most of the time. But she still has a choice to make, maybe she had a good reason for it like starting her life afresh with her new partner bc if they had joint custody there would be problems in her new relationship. Its like she wanted to NO contact with him so she just gave up her daughters
@gfys6323
@gfys6323 Жыл бұрын
@@sugarhiccup2584 maybe you have a point but then..was the new relationship more important than her children? :/ I dunno..this whole story is heartbreaking
@johncapewell7520
@johncapewell7520 Жыл бұрын
Sending your 9 year old daughter to the shops alone, eyebrow raising moment right there in itself.
@nammm-zs3qp
@nammm-zs3qp Жыл бұрын
It was common back then… kids used to go out and buy cigarettes for their parents. It’s actually a great way of teaching them responsibility but times have definitely changed :(
@CJohann
@CJohann Жыл бұрын
@@nammm-zs3qp she was 9 , I get that you wanna teach them about responsibility when they're young but 9 years old? Alone ? She asked for it
@positivelygroovylife
@positivelygroovylife Жыл бұрын
@@CJohann like she said, back then it was common. My brother and I were often sent to the store by my mother to get groceries with our red wagon when we were in 3rd and 1st grade
@curiouser-and-curiouser
@curiouser-and-curiouser Жыл бұрын
@@CJohann Whether you're talking about the mother or the child, either way, only a sick twisted fuck would respond to a 9 yr old girls rape & murder with, "She asked for it."
@blondegiraffe2023
@blondegiraffe2023 Жыл бұрын
​@@CJohann children at 9 can be incredibly responsible. It isn't beyond them to be able to buy something from a store on their own. Psychopathic murderers make it bad. And there was a time when they were unheard of.
@catherinesyme901
@catherinesyme901 Жыл бұрын
Great narration! Great channel! More please
@JuliaShalomJordan
@JuliaShalomJordan Жыл бұрын
Wow. What an incredible story. I loved the way this ended for Tiffany.❤️
@caitlindaly1939
@caitlindaly1939 10 ай бұрын
i know this is said A LOT in the comments… but i think it’s so important and really just inspiring that these videos focus on the victims. it’s always done in such a respectful manner, and treats the perpetrators as an afterthought, as they should be.
@kazozkyking
@kazozkyking Жыл бұрын
If there's a killer why would you send your daughter to get sugar?
@margaritaescoto3500
@margaritaescoto3500 7 ай бұрын
Amazing girls… so courageous! Thank you for your strength and example. Blessings
@lilbread1717
@lilbread1717 9 ай бұрын
CPS really walked into a house with condemned windows where a father was keeping his two daughters from the rest of the world, and went "Yep. Nothing to see here :)"
@Anna-jf6ir
@Anna-jf6ir Жыл бұрын
Surely the ex wife would have had an inkling that something was off with him ( his own family did) and yet she abandoned her defenceless children in his care.
@sugarhiccup2584
@sugarhiccup2584 Жыл бұрын
I think its their mothers choice..if she wants to give full custody to the dad..
@natalievu4399
@natalievu4399 Жыл бұрын
​@@sugarhiccup2584 Yes, it was her choice & it was a horrible choice. She left her daughters with a complete psycho. Horrible woman!
@audreymuzingo933
@audreymuzingo933 Жыл бұрын
@@sugarhiccup2584 Hello fellow Cocteau Twins fan!!😘
@audreymuzingo933
@audreymuzingo933 Жыл бұрын
@@natalievu4399 Do you make the same comment about absent fathers when the mother or her second husband or boyfriend abuses the kids?
@shayla106
@shayla106 Жыл бұрын
@@sugarhiccup2584 Stop projecting your issues. You keep repeating the same thing.
@hylianflower9681
@hylianflower9681 Жыл бұрын
The fact the parents sent a 9 year old outside alone to buy sugar when there was already active, repeated murders, seems like they didnt really give much thought for her well being
@curiouser-and-curiouser
@curiouser-and-curiouser Жыл бұрын
And you being the arbiter of what's good & right & proper parenting would know, right? Times were different & they didn't know there was a serial killer at that point. The murders were years apart. The two worst kinds of people on the internet, predators & sanctimonious assholes who sit in judgement.
@taybae
@taybae 11 ай бұрын
right, I don’t like to victim blame but that death was so preventable.
@suzimonkey345
@suzimonkey345 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@HighItsSyd
@HighItsSyd Жыл бұрын
This was an amazing outcome for all those involved ❤
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