SHAPER MACHINE AND SLOTTING HEAD WORK .

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Max Grant ,The Swan Valley Machine Shop.

Max Grant ,The Swan Valley Machine Shop.

Ай бұрын

The Slotting Head Is fitted up to the Bridgeport .
First slotting job completed .

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@petermarsh4993
@petermarsh4993 Ай бұрын
Dear Max, fresh to watching your show and two things I have noticed. You work through more tools in depth than anyone else I have seen on YT. I like the fact that you realise that you won’t be seeing me but I will see you. Nobody on entire YT domain has gotten that right before you. One thing with the low arm for your slotting head. You can get a spacer to lift up your working body about 400mm. It will be a pain to install but in the end will give you plenty of extra height on both sides of the Bridgeport.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks . 👍
@darrelljones7879
@darrelljones7879 Ай бұрын
Nothing to that job eh Max? Just three setups to modify the mounting bracket, and a total rebuild of the slotting head to do a one of part! 😂 Absolutely love your videos and always learn something from them.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Cheers 👍
@RalfyCustoms
@RalfyCustoms Ай бұрын
G'day Max, 5.00am coffee and start the day watching this, perfect, always enjoy your videos, and learn heaps too my mate, have a great one, thanks for sharing, and best wishes to you and yours
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Cheers Ralfy 👍👍👍
@firstname3078
@firstname3078 Ай бұрын
This was a great series, Max! I really enjoyed it and learned a lot.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
No worries 👍
@mcgama88
@mcgama88 Ай бұрын
Enjoying the video capture of chip product form. Some very nice demonstration of precision and how to think about tool form and motion. Nice to see the shop layout and working process Max. Thanks for having me along. M.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@myradavis2599
@myradavis2599 Ай бұрын
Very interesting stuff, I can see where a slotting head would suit a WW2 production environment.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Cheers 👍
@TheAyrCaveShop
@TheAyrCaveShop Ай бұрын
The slotting head lives and delivers.. Nice conclusion to the cam socket limit spring holder screw in thingy. Great series 👍👍 Cheers....
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks Dean . Was good it all went somewhat according to plan . If the tool bit does not fall out or snap off , all is good ! 👍
@shg4421-sb4vb
@shg4421-sb4vb Ай бұрын
Nice camera work capturing the almost impossible, thanks.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@TrPrecisionMachining
@TrPrecisionMachining Ай бұрын
very good video friend Max
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@bostedtap8399
@bostedtap8399 Ай бұрын
Great insight into slotting Max, lot of work to get there, but its ready now 👍. Thanks for sharing
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
No worries 👍
@willemvantsant5105
@willemvantsant5105 Ай бұрын
Hi Max, our forefathers were pretty good machinists, in this case it might have been a Woman slotting the feature. Seen wartime documentaries with Woman using Shapers. A narrower tool insert will reduce the tool deflection but increase the time to manufacture but you achieved the desired result, good job.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Cheers . The tool was very narrow , i did not expect that amount of push off . 👍
@paulcurtis2779
@paulcurtis2779 Ай бұрын
Complicated. . You did a great job. . fantastic showing us the difficulties. Cheers.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@samrodian919
@samrodian919 Ай бұрын
Great job Max, a bit challenging, but not as challenging as getting the slotting head sorted out after being butchered by the last guy!
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@ExhaustCraft1968
@ExhaustCraft1968 Ай бұрын
Love Monday nights in England. I get to watch one of the best engineers on Yt, I don't care how long the videos are, This 20 min YT logarithm is bullshit, in my opinion, 20 mins is too short. I am pleased you take no notice of this
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks . Yes 20 min , it's over before it began ! 👍
@dcraft1234
@dcraft1234 Ай бұрын
You'd think there would be a lot simpler way they would have built that, like spot weld a piece inside there. Great work you did there. Cheers
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@butchphillips873
@butchphillips873 Ай бұрын
G'day Max , Interesting watching you use a shaper to work on a slotter. Cheers. Both the slow and fast motion vidios were great.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@hmw-ms3tx
@hmw-ms3tx Ай бұрын
That turned out well Max. It is a lot of finicky work to make some of these parts but it is satisfying when they turn out. A while ago someone on Practical Machinist commented that the rise of carbide insert facemills spelled the end of the shaper. Watching this I tend to agree. Olga would have machined the three edges off that bracket in three passes using the horizontal spindle. Before I got my horizontal mill I used to machine the edges of flame cut parts with my shaper (much lighter than yours). I was amazed at how well the HSS tools hold up when they are used in a shaper. I'm not sure why but they seem to take way more abuse in a shaper than they will in a lathe. Ken
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks Ken . Yes , the mill would have done it in a fraction of the time . I like to give the shaper a run every now & then ! Cheers 👍
@outsidescrewball
@outsidescrewball Ай бұрын
Enjoyed the discussion/build…success…nice job
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks Chuck 👍
@johnbewick6357
@johnbewick6357 Ай бұрын
Lovely job there Max. If I had been making this and not having any means of slotting as you have, I think I would have made a seperate insert and silver soldered it into the bore.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Plug weld the insert was my plan B ! Cheers 👍
@captcarlos
@captcarlos Ай бұрын
Hi Max, good video. Having never touched a Shaper I’m enjoying the tutorial. But having some time on a slotter watching you gave me a smile. Once had to join a pump motor to a generator . Made an adapter with an internal spline one end to slotted keyed socket other end. Five minute job…. Obviously.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@brianmccusker3852
@brianmccusker3852 Ай бұрын
Thanks Max, for the "trifecta". Interesting to follow your thought process through a complicated and thorough process. You made it entertaining to say the least. The shop looks great. Cheers.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@alasdairhamilton1574
@alasdairhamilton1574 Ай бұрын
Max. Challenging job nicely done, I would have silver soldered a half of a tube instead 🤦🏼‍♂️🤣👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿
@bobhudson6659
@bobhudson6659 Ай бұрын
They were my thoughts as well.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
I did think about that , but would have drilled a couple of holes & plug welded it in place . But then i would not have had my slotting head fixed ! Cheers 👍
@alandawson2813
@alandawson2813 Ай бұрын
Another awesome video Max, from kiwi land
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@MikezVW
@MikezVW Ай бұрын
Awesome video Max on the workings of the slotting head! I was very interested in the engineering and operation of slotting head. Cheers from Minnesota!
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
No worries 👍
@StuartsShed
@StuartsShed Ай бұрын
The slo mo shots are EXCELLENT! Really enjoyed seeing those chips curl and fly. Brilliant stuff as usual.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@OneManEngineering
@OneManEngineering Ай бұрын
This is such a good series! Enjoyed EVERY SEC of it! Greg
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@paulbuckberry7683
@paulbuckberry7683 Ай бұрын
Spot on Max, bloody good job that!
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@DudleyToolwright
@DudleyToolwright Ай бұрын
That sure did turn out great.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks Rob . 👍
@tonyray91
@tonyray91 Ай бұрын
Good tip about talking up the backlash on the shaper downfeed thanks.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Cheers 👍
@richardmills5450
@richardmills5450 Ай бұрын
That a nice bit of kit that Max. Wish I had one. Cheers
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@d.graydraftinganddesign361
@d.graydraftinganddesign361 Ай бұрын
Very nice Max. The slow-mo shouts are awesome.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
That is what i do in the shaper as well . Cheers 👍
@ericpatterson3887
@ericpatterson3887 Ай бұрын
Hey Max, I was thinking, there is a KZfaqr named Paul Brodie, a pretty famous Canadian bike builder (he does awesome silver solder work!) and he uses what he calls a spiral roll to polish his angled frame joints, and it works a treat in the hard to reach places. It's tapered and rolled sandpaper (coned shape) about 2 inches or so long (maybe a tad longer) and he uses them in a pneumatic rotary tool (a drill would work well too, a high rpm one is better I imagine), and they have a shank on them to chuck down on. They polish really well, and can get into places that are hard to reach. He uses them to polish his welded joints on the frames, mostly his silver solder work, but also his tig welds. The diameter looks like about an inch or so on the big end, and around 1\4 to 3\8 on the small end. Not sure where he gets them, probably McMaster Carr, but I can find out if your interested. I was thinking that it would have worked well to get the finish you were looking for on the part you just slotted.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks . I have not seen them . I can look them up . Cheers 👍
@ericpatterson3887
@ericpatterson3887 Ай бұрын
@@swanvalleymachineshop found them on McMaster-Carr under spiral wound sanding rolls. It requires buying a separate shank adapter for using the rolls. I didn't look at the prices, but I have seen them in use, and know that whatever the price, they are well worth it. They are very effective, as the roll wears, it exposes fresh sanding material. Only thing you need to be aware of is to not use the small portion on the very end hardly at all if at all, as that can cause the roll to unwind, because there is glue in those areas in order to hold its shape. I know you will love using them in areas that are hard to reach, like the part you just made
@hrd998cc
@hrd998cc Ай бұрын
@@ericpatterson3887 McMaster-Carr do not sell outside of USA.
@ericpatterson3887
@ericpatterson3887 Ай бұрын
@@hrd998cc yes, I am aware of that, but most people who have a competent imagination can find ways to get products from McMaster-Carr delivered to them outside of the US, it is not that hard really, but definitely a pain in the arse. The UPS store comes to mind, as I think it is possible to get items shipped to one of their numerous stores, and then shipped elsewhere, but don't quote me on that as I am unsure. I personally would have no problem serving as a go between to get them to Max.
@MattysWorkshop
@MattysWorkshop Ай бұрын
Gday Max, the slotting head works a treat, I’d say that’s the end of slotting by hand now, great job mate, cheers
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Cheers Matty . If it just a tiny bit , i might do by hand . But yes , the hand slotting days are over ! 👍
@gregdawson1909
@gregdawson1909 Ай бұрын
The digital angle gauges are pretty fantastic, we cut gears with WW2 era machines, you set hob lead angle with a vernier that gets no better then 10 minutes of angle, and bevel gears with similar accuracy. between dirt, poor lighting and less than stellar vision and inevitable paralax error its amazing they work as well as they do, but they do.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
I only just got this one , seems alright so far . Seems to save a lot of mucking around for a quick set up . Cheers 👍
@dennissheridan1550
@dennissheridan1550 Ай бұрын
Max, it looks and sounds like you ministration to the slotting head have born sweet fruit. She sounds smooth and bobs up and down real nice, kudos on a job well done.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Cheers 👍
@jeffrehn5852
@jeffrehn5852 Ай бұрын
Max, I always get something out of your videos. That was very impressive. Jeff-North Central Illinois-USA
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@stevechambers9166
@stevechambers9166 Ай бұрын
Great job max not easy to copy that part for sure👍👍👍
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@be007
@be007 Ай бұрын
good end result max ! cheers ben
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@jdmccorful
@jdmccorful Ай бұрын
Always learning something on your videos. Thanks for your time and skills!
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
No worries 👍
@jrd02wilcox
@jrd02wilcox Ай бұрын
Excellent video. Thanks.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Cheers 👍
@user-dz7nc2wi1b
@user-dz7nc2wi1b Ай бұрын
Great work old mate , regards from Mt Hawthorn.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Cheers 👍
@acmemachining
@acmemachining Ай бұрын
Great job Max. Really enjoyed the series. Thanks
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
No worries 👍
@paulhammond7489
@paulhammond7489 Ай бұрын
Another piece of shop equipment brought back to life so you can finish off these 'tractor' parts. I'm guessing that tractor could have been a WW2 era Fordson model 2LB ;) Keep going like this Max, and would could see more machinery resurrection in your new shop :)
@davidcat1455
@davidcat1455 Ай бұрын
You can just say gun. 🤷
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
No worries . I will get a couple of shots off it when complete . 👍
@paulhammond7489
@paulhammond7489 Ай бұрын
@@davidcat1455 I understand that KZfaq has some fancy algorithms that does not promote videos that use certain words in their titles or comments, so I'm just playing safe so Max's content / videos are not demonetized etc...
@davidcat1455
@davidcat1455 Ай бұрын
@@paulhammond7489 Yeah, I figured that. However, I don’t think Max would be penalised for something a commentor said.
@gregm1457
@gregm1457 Ай бұрын
Yeah I've had to do similar things with the top and side rake to get my E head cutting. Agree with using the largest diameter tool shank you can fit in the bore, with short cutter projection and honed edges. You did get it cutting well though. I mostly do internal keyways with mine.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
No worries 👍
@apollorobb
@apollorobb Ай бұрын
G' Day MAX Great Video Sir . Cheers From Oklahoma
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@ccbproductsmulti-bendaustr3200
@ccbproductsmulti-bendaustr3200 Ай бұрын
Superb work Max 👌 Cheers Chris
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@mjm7187
@mjm7187 Ай бұрын
In the shops I worked in we used to grind thru the flame cut edge if we had to drill thru it or machine it with an offhand grinder. Enjoy your advanced setups and solutions to very interesting projects Max.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks . Yes , i knocked off the edges with the grinder for the two angled areas . Cheers 👍
@624Dudley
@624Dudley Ай бұрын
Thanks Max, this video is really packed with interesting stuff. 👍 Despite having visited hundreds of shops and factories over a lifetime, I don’t think I ever chanced to spy a slotting head in operation. Certainly I never used one myself (yet). How nice to see a big Starrett indicator on the job in Oz! I live near the Starrett factory, so naturally I’m a fan. The company logo looks nice, doesn’t it? You probably know that a gear sector is a key ingredient in those indicators; it’s fascinating to watch those being made. They use high speed CNC shapers to form the tiny, precise gear teeth. The shapers stroke so quickly the motion is just a blur.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks . I love their tools . I watched Adam Booth's tour , an impressive place for sure . Cheers 👍
@bambukouk
@bambukouk Ай бұрын
interesting as always - thank you 👍 my original Bridgeport head bracket is much more "dinky" and is a fork with plate on top and bottom, rather than just single plate like yours be interesting to see how yours will stand up in use just "hanging on the bolt nut" ? look forward to more videos about slotting head tools
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@hilltopmachineworks2131
@hilltopmachineworks2131 Ай бұрын
Good one Max. 👍
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Cheers Tom 👍
@David-qd3ff
@David-qd3ff Ай бұрын
Great video. Reinforces the saying that no one ever made money with a shaper 😂
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Lol , Too bloody true . Would have taken bugger all to knock those edges off in the mill ! Cheers 👍
@glennfelpel9785
@glennfelpel9785 Ай бұрын
I am not inclined to do it but if I were to do a stress analysis of the connection between the mounting bracket and the mounting end of the machine we would be able to see if there would be much difference if the bracket were mounted on the top. Having experience in this type of thing I am thinking it wouldn't make much difference in the overall stiffness of the set up. Stiffness is the resistance to deformation. Wish there were more hours in a day. This would be an interesting and fun thing to look into. Thank you for a very well done video
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks . Yes , it would be interesting to see test results on that . Think of where the fulcrum of the flex point is , say caused by any stretch in the bolt . Cheers 👍
@wallbawden5511
@wallbawden5511 Ай бұрын
Hi Max great fimtografie there solved the problem and completed the part also got the new old machine thingie up and going nice to watch glad you seeded up the job for us as that would have tested the limitations of my Medication for sure Always the teacher and I always the eager Student for sure thanks Max for taking the time to show the build and the how to use Just one thing with the small edge on start of slotting could that come down to the mount you say your going to make more better ? Nice job Cheers
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks . No it was from tool push off . Cheers 👍
@Randysshop49548
@Randysshop49548 Ай бұрын
Hi Max looks like the first job on the slotting head tuned out very good. Needs a little tweaking as is the case most of the time. Cheers
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks . 👍
@TedRoza
@TedRoza Ай бұрын
G'day Max. Excellent job on the Slotting Head Assembly which worked out very well. You had a good Master Class in setting up & operating the the Rotary Head coupled with the Slotting Jig. Overall it was a Great Job well done, My question is, could the cutting tool have been a fraction wider & slightly rounded for a quicker finish ?
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
It would give more tool push off . 👍
@JourneymanRandy
@JourneymanRandy Ай бұрын
Wow. That is a process getting here. Nice work Max
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@Preso58
@Preso58 Ай бұрын
That looks like a win to me. It was nice to see the final assembly.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@edsmachine93
@edsmachine93 Ай бұрын
Good work Max. I think that you are definitely ready to start slotting. Everything is coming together nicely. 👍👍 Cheers 👍👍.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@ElmerJFudd-oi9kj
@ElmerJFudd-oi9kj Ай бұрын
You'll be making keyways like nobody's buisiness Max. Interesting job and exellent solutions mate, well done, it was very nice to watch, cheers.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@whatupg1
@whatupg1 Ай бұрын
Fantastic Max, enjoy watching and learning from an experienced machinist.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
No worries 👍
@DonDyarprecision
@DonDyarprecision Ай бұрын
That is a great project and useful too. I know where a slotting head is, maybe I can get one.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Cheers Don . 👍
@parnuzutech
@parnuzutech Ай бұрын
good job 👍
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@ianmoone2359
@ianmoone2359 Ай бұрын
Maybe when you make your adjustable bracket for the slotting head, you could include a cross slide with gib & lead screw & nut so that you have longer upwards and downwards travel to give you more setup options. 😉👍
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
No , that is too complicated ! 👍
@ianmoone2359
@ianmoone2359 Ай бұрын
@@swanvalleymachineshop Can’t argue with that. I wouldn’t want to have to do it, just I figured if anyone had the skills, ability, and machines to be able to do it, would be you. 😉😂😂
@huibhoogendoorn503
@huibhoogendoorn503 Ай бұрын
A good job Max. And a nice slotting head to.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@russellsemple6501
@russellsemple6501 Ай бұрын
good work max
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@mikewestbrook2319
@mikewestbrook2319 Ай бұрын
Great video Max, Mike from Texas 👍
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@cousiebro
@cousiebro Ай бұрын
Great video mate
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Cheers 👍
@PatriciaSawyer-ot4us
@PatriciaSawyer-ot4us 18 күн бұрын
Hi Max. Good stuff! How about using a broach guide to stiffen your tool? No pun intended!
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop 18 күн бұрын
Thanks . There would not be enough room . Might work for a keyway with a modified tool . Cheers 👍
@GraemeStephens
@GraemeStephens Ай бұрын
watching the Shaper go back and forth, back and forth ... and the Slotter go in and out, in and out = was very pleasing ? 😅
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Lol 👍👍👍
@robjaimiehickford4559
@robjaimiehickford4559 Ай бұрын
Decent result Max. I never got to use one of these slotter attachments on bridgeport or like the mills. Ive only used the purpose built ones, the monsters and the easy to operate ones. The huge brown & sharp slotter I used had no clapper on it, ridgity was the key to deal with deflection. We used trefolex, and waited till tool pressure cleared last cut before adding another.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks . I might swap the clapper for a solid tool mount . 👍
@Warped65er
@Warped65er Ай бұрын
Thx. for the vid. Part turned out Great.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Ай бұрын
On a shaper you can make whatever you want. Even if it's vertical :) What could maybe help to control the tool flex is to cut the whole surface with the slotting head. Or on the shaper... Just an idea.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
That is how they cut the original one , but they must have had a bigger diameter tool . 👍
@theessexhunter1305
@theessexhunter1305 Ай бұрын
Well done Max, still think a half cup welded in place would have been quicker but fully get you wanted to make it as original. I don't have a sloter so have to find ways to make things
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
No worries . Yes , drill & plug weld if i do another one ! But wanted this one the same . It was a good excuse to get the slotter up & running . Cheers 👍
@theessexhunter1305
@theessexhunter1305 Ай бұрын
100% I have been messing around on the mill for hrs making a new mount for my .270 rifle so I can use my digital scope and then swap back the main scope... the rail has 20 moa or .035" taper so that has to be accounted for lol
@sergeantpeppers8858
@sergeantpeppers8858 Ай бұрын
When that shaper catches high gear, it really takes off, I tell you what.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Lol , it would rumble out the door ! 👍
@ShadonHKW
@ShadonHKW Ай бұрын
I've never had any luck with the stock BP clapper, never a problem just locking it solid.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
I might take it off & go with a solid tool block . Cheers Stan 👍
@robdixon945
@robdixon945 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the show Max 🍻
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
No worries 👍
@leathermanTK55
@leathermanTK55 Ай бұрын
Pour yourself a well deserved ale sir. A great finish
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
No worries , Cheers 👍
@alanremington8500
@alanremington8500 Ай бұрын
Nice one !!
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Cheers 👍
@1ginner1
@1ginner1 Ай бұрын
Hi Max, I wouldn't bother with what you are calling the nod on your new bracket. If you turn the tool holder round 90 degs you can set the head over to allow you to cut a keyway in a tapered bore. ( at least that's what I do now). Works a treat. Best wishes, Mal.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
It would just give a bit of extra adjustment . But yes , rotate 90 deg would work . Cheers 👍
@johnbaker7621
@johnbaker7621 Ай бұрын
👍nice job
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@Mike_Jr_28
@Mike_Jr_28 Ай бұрын
Great job Max. I always look forward to your videos. Question- what is all the orange silicone crap on your rotary table. That appears to be a South Bend from Grizzly tools, I have been looking for a table and I like that there's have 6 T-slots and I think it's made in Taiwan. But that orange crap got me curious as to what the hell is going on with that, could you tell me what you think of it. Also do you all have Grizzly tools over there? I thought they were just in the US. Cheers Max! Keep up the great video's we appreciate your hard work! 👍
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
The rotary table , i bought off Amazon about 10 years ago . The red stuff is silastic to keep the flood coolant from running off the edges ! Cheers
@windrk_6754
@windrk_6754 Ай бұрын
Nice to see the slotting head working. Wondered if it would help to mill a small flat on the side of the tool shank, before sharpening it, something to be able to repeat the orientation of the tool. Also, watching how you ended up doing this, thought if the tool could be rotated through a small angle in the sharpening fixture, could grind the 2 sides of the tool to the angle corresponding to the width of the tip, then it could be used for both ends of the gap.. icing on the cake if there was a simple way to grind the right radius on the too between the 2 sides (center may not corresond with the center of the shank?), maybe could grind two facets perpendicular to the sides of the tool & free-hand the radius between these? Also, as much as we love shapers, that looked like a great job for a bandsaw (unless risking the blade with the hard surface..).. Great video!
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
I was thinking about an indexing flat on the tool . Cheers 👍
@greglaroche1753
@greglaroche1753 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the video.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
No worries 👍
@chadstrand7868
@chadstrand7868 Ай бұрын
great video thanks for it
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
No worries 👍
@kennethstaszak9990
@kennethstaszak9990 Ай бұрын
All I got out of the video is a desire to buy a slotter. I probably wouldn't use one but I want one!
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Lol . Cheers 👍
@cyclebuster
@cyclebuster Ай бұрын
very nice. You mentioned using a shaper and you are right it is possible.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Vision would be restricted too much . I have cut blind keyways in the shaper before , but not anything further down a restricted hole like this was . Cheers 👍
@user-mp8uy4mg9j
@user-mp8uy4mg9j Ай бұрын
Now we're ready to get this mounted to the machine My thoughts It's about time I am eager to see the damn thing working Anyone else
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Lol , you must have nodded off . It was at the end ! 👍
@melgross
@melgross Ай бұрын
I thought the mount would be upside down to the way it’s installed, with the side support brackets on the bottom so that the head could be swiveled around more. Unless you think that would make the clearance too small.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Clearance was the issue there as i did not want to mount it on top the other way around . 👍
@frankerceg4349
@frankerceg4349 Ай бұрын
Thank you Max!
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
No worries 👍
@jaybailey3518
@jaybailey3518 Ай бұрын
Difficult job....nice work !!!
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@bryanlatimer-davies1222
@bryanlatimer-davies1222 Ай бұрын
Why worry about nut sizes ? I just have two adjustable wrenches, one imperial, one metric !
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Lol , i have those as well ! Left & Right handed 👍
@donmadere4237
@donmadere4237 Ай бұрын
Good video thanks
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Cheers 👍
@user-mp8uy4mg9j
@user-mp8uy4mg9j Ай бұрын
Pretty neat process
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@user-mp8uy4mg9j
@user-mp8uy4mg9j Ай бұрын
@@swanvalleymachineshop you went the long way around the barn for that part you were making
@ianquarterman9760
@ianquarterman9760 Ай бұрын
Maybe turn the tool 180 degrees in the clapper so the tool pressure tends to close the clapper rather than tend to open it? I do this on my shaper when cutting keyways.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
That is what i do in my shaper as well . Never having used it , i wanted to see how it went . Cheers 👍
@markneedham752
@markneedham752 Ай бұрын
@ 22:28 Mate, sandwich the plates...??? Have two of the buggers, the top one welded, bottom one...bolted..??? or not. Give you the strength you need.??? 😮😊
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
The one i make later on , will be like that . This one came with the slotter ! 👍
@dutchgray86
@dutchgray86 Ай бұрын
I suspect the clapper on a Bridgport type slotter is only going to work with very short tooling in the vertical orientation or tooling in the horizontal location in the tool block, the geometry isn't advantageous enough with long vertical tooling used to get into smaller diameter bores, the clapper pivot axis is too close to cut line of the tool so the tool pressure pushing the tool off is enough to overcome the cutting force trying to pull the tool in, the longer the tool the worse it gets. You can get the same issues on a horizontal shaper if you use a very long internal cutting tool mounted in place of the standard lantern tool holder, which is why the manual for such should state the distance between the tool and clapper box face, on my Elliott 18" it is 7" to the rear edge of the tool, but you do always have gravity on you side on a horizontal as well.
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
In the shaper , i turn the slotting tool upside down so the edge is at the top . Cheers 👍
@ronaldvanotten6812
@ronaldvanotten6812 Ай бұрын
Hi Grant! Do you think that maybe the original piece was slotted from the top edge, rather than down at the lower point? Ron...
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
It was . Cheers 👍
@simpleman283
@simpleman283 Ай бұрын
👍
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Cheers 👍👍👍
@TERRYB0688
@TERRYB0688 Ай бұрын
I would hate to price that job, man hours on the job, very interesting project though
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
Thanks . I just take an educated guess on parts like that , but i stick to it . Cheers 👍
@kennethney4260
@kennethney4260 Ай бұрын
I wonder if a radius on the cutting edge for the final pass would help...
@swanvalleymachineshop
@swanvalleymachineshop Ай бұрын
I stoned one on to get rid of the sharp corner . Cheers 👍
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