Mike replaced Mike with "NO MIKE" on his mic. This was a business decision. He messed up his own money. Can't tolerate in a business situation what you would never tolerate in a family situation. PERIOD!!!

That’s why they didn’t

Nonsense. Mike was the least essential member. He was not a main vocalist and never led any of their songs. All he did was talk and sing the bottom note in harmonies. They could have easily brought in someone else to fill that slot. Boyz II Men is a four-man group and they should have kept it that way. A trio just doesn't look right. They need all the members to keep the balance.

Given that now we know Mike had MS, everything makes a lot more sense now. Mike was probably going HM through a lot, and keeping it a secret, so of course from the band's perspective it just looks like he being lazy or didn't care etc.

exactly. not to mention the legal aspect to it, when a person contracts the group and only gets 3 members that puts the band in a bad situation... you cant be a part of a group and falter on your obligations

He was sick... Not acting bigger than the group, being diagnosed with MS, you can't do a lot, and I'm pretty sure he was going through a lot of pain.

I like the way Shawn used to tell that story... "Mike proceeded to whip my @$$"😂

Scoliosis and MS is crazy, he must have been in so much pain and depressed af

@@luv4ever101 nope, never watched her show

@@luv4ever101 wow, I need to find that interview

He has MS, not scoliosis. That’s why he couldn’t do it

I Agree

He didn't tell his then wife either 😔😔 hopefully, He understands their n his wife position.

I think it was entirely too painful for him to open up. I read people with his condition are mentally damaged.

Both sides are wrong in how they handled things. I just wish they would make peace with each other even if doesn’t involve Michael coming back to the group.

@@jaylene.turner6524 in making peace tho, Mike has to understand that he can't just come back and get a ¼ of the pie. And that's why he didn't come back for the 20th anniversary. He wanted a ¼, the fellas said no(as they should have)...so he decided not to. It basically boiled down to, they did all the work when it came to writing songs and writing his parts for him and him wanting equal money. Nate basically wrote all of his parts and showed him how he wanted it sang. I think he only wrote one song(which he sang one of the lead parts) and that was all. The song "You Know" on the II album.

This was a business decision. He messed his up his own money. Can't tolerate in business what you would let go of in a family situation. If Mike could talk to his Doctors, then he should have talked to his brothers. Ain't that much understanding in the world. Mike's grown. People no matter how understanding cannot force you to talk. While Mike's not talking, B2M has a business to run. They have families that are depending on them, as well as fans that they have to be loyal to. They can't afford to mess up their money because of what Mike did. Mike allowed his mental, emotional, and personal situation get in the way of business and his family. Mike got what he deserved!

If he could show up for the "payday", then he should've been able to answer phone calls.

@@tyronewitherssr.5828 I will admit that I would have probably made the same decision B2M did for my emotional state of mind trying to run a business and support a family. However, your comments about Mike being grown, messing up his own money, and deserving what he got is unwarranted. Chronic pain can be debilitating and change a person as @Brynne Holt mentioned. Hopefully, you or a close friend will never have to experience that situation. Personal experience changes perspectives and brings humility.

@@0xTRellyx0 Mike had a lot of money to get as much help as he could possibly get. Plus he had this the support of his professional Brothers who were his friends and brothers before they made it big. My statement stands and it is warranted. Perspectives are dime a dozen and they change every day. Prospective so not the authority to change the principle. I've been through a similar situation and I will say frankly and unapologetically no one has the right regardless of their situation to make decisions and to act in a manner to destroy the livelihood of other people. Mike's decisions greatly affected the lives of the people that he work with. He messed up his money you can't show up to work when you want to and then come back hoping that from a business standpoint your partners are going to stand for that. That's not the real world. The real world doesn't care about your perspective when they have to take care of business. Coming to work only when he can see that there's a big payday when the days and weeks prior to he was a no-show, in the real world you would have got fired already. Mike is lucky that they didn't get rid of him prior to. And the fact of the matter is that Shawn from the group made it clear that Mike decided to get physical and put his hands on his own brother so Mike deserved what he got. Get your affairs in order and communicate like you're supposed to and maybe the outcome would be different. PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!

@@0xTRellyx0 one more point, Mike at a certain point dismissed the whole idea of humility. If he had humility he would have thought about that considering the support that he had even before they decided to fire him from the group. Humility takes 100% accountability for what you are guilty of. If you don't want to do that that you don't deserve the blessings that you get.

He actually had both

NO PROBLEM at all...but considering all this info, this is why he needed to say something to them so that his condition could have been considered. so that when the time came they would know how to accommodate him. it's a clear case of no communication

Real t

ikkk I saw thatt

the cameras were on

@@loumedic Yeah. 🤣

@@loumedic 🎯💯

That Bishop and Q hug 😂

He didn't disclose how he sick he was..... COMMUNICATION IS KEY

Marc joins them on occasion, I took my girl to see them in Vegas and he was a surprise performer

That's absolutely not true. Mike never wrote any music so his contribution was not that significant. Boyz 2 Men just like any other RnB act(s) were affected by the rise of Hiphop.

@@ndujamzAnd that their egos started getting in the way and pissed off a lot of people. People like Baby Face, Kim Burris, etc.

I was laughing my ass off, like "Well shit, I guess you ain't in too much pain if you did that!"

I saw the Whisper unsung as well, and was amazed how they continue to take care of each other after missing shows, even after one did time in jail. That’s what you called brothers! I totally agree with you. Shawn saying one thing but not doing nothing for his brother. Always two sides, I would like to hear Mike side.

How are you supposed to support someone who doesn’t pick up the phone? Zero communication. Cashapp and Zelle didn’t exist those days

@@csharp57 I'm not criticizing I love these cats. I watched em grow up in Philly before they were boys to men, but Mike was a good dude and he was really sick. To your question about cash app and zelle your right.... Why not just give his share to his folks if he's your brother!!

@@Geez01 you must be friends with Mike lol if he’s their brother why was he avoiding them and only coming to shows when he wanted to

@@cbshine I was friends with them all ock. I was closer to Nate.

@@luv4ever101 I am aware of all of this that is why I was mad. there is even a post where I called them out on it a few years back in m comments. I appreciate this dialogue because it is the most honest in light of Mike's condition....I still wish it was the 4 but I also understand brand and business and Mike's unique situation too and I saw the Iyanla interview that shed additional light...This is the 1st time I am content with the way things are as a fan

Well its a big diff between someone who can still be in the group and someone e who died . It's a big difference

Ikr

Was it to pop for you

What about New Edition? When Johnny showed up it was like --- awww nawww --- but guess what, guess what, guess what . . . dawning of a new day, right! #everyoneisreplacable #shouldawentwithBrianMcKnight #BIIMwith3looksodd

@@NoNo-ks4gg Everyone isn't replacable. It works fo'r some groups and it destroys other groups.

This is for the 'Three Likes' that the person with the moronic named-title spewed . . . the O'Jays, the Jacksons, Van Halen, Journey, Foreigner, Mint Condition, the Spinners, et al. Need I go on, cuz I can! Now y'all give me some of the DESTRUCTIONS . . . I'm waiting --- and I don't want to hear from the crazy, long named knucklehead either! #replaceableiswhatyoushoulddowiththatdumbazzname

@@NoNo-ks4gg yea but NE was great with Bobby and good with Johnny but with NE not once have I heard him say anybody from the group 2 really reach out he said they called and no answer as a group and more than that true friends he didn't say not 1 of them went 2 Shawn house because if I hadn't heard from my homie and business partner u don't go 2 his house and check on him and c if he hurt or something

Yo dawg --- a PERIOD is your friend --- don't be afraid to associate yourself with them. Additionally, when you use the pronoun HE, you must establish (previously) who the 'he' in question you are speaking about! Because what you are trying to convey is . . . in a word . . . cluttered! Lastly, the guy who you said was just 'good' was responsible for the Best Selling Single from the NE catalogue --- so the little bit of your statement that I was able to comprehend . . . just doesn't hold water. #namean #measuretwice #cutonce #opinionsneedtobebackedupbyfacts #each1teach1 #1luvkid

After 7 would give them a run for their money though. 😁

New Edition, come on

Temptations… 4 Tops … The Spinners.. the list goes on and on

Accapella is completely different than accompanied musicians.

Ikr lol 😆 😅 🤣 😂

I can agree. Nate has a good bass but he's not as good as Mike.

Interesante

I agree They should feature Mike's vocals in concert or recruit another bass singer

THIS manz messed up his own bag

I love this man shown stock man

They’re working on it.

Wanya played by his oldest!!

Most definitely....said that when new edition movie came out.

Yes laaawwd

Right

Yeah they are

Did you not watch the video? Mike was not showing up or communicating. Then he got violent. Where does greed factor in.

@@bw4348 Right?!?! 🤷‍♂️ You took the words right outta my mouth 😄😂 Cat must've skipped the video completely on his way to the comment section 🤣🤦‍♂️

@@thinkforward8752 he should flush his phone on purpose the next time he's on his way to the restroom.

@@bw4348 💯🤣

I didn't even notice he was gone.

THAT part right there! I always bought their cd’s BUT after Mike left they’re music wasn’t the same. I always thought it was because of song choice. I never really thought about how the balance if voice’s wasn’t the same.

Kenny Terry is absolutely a strong pick but may not want to play Mike's roll in the group. Kenny was probably #1B in AZ Yet. Being uuuuh ahhh in B2M as #4 may have been a tough pill.

Nath has been playing Mike's role ever since he left especially in studio recording but one can notice on-stage performance, and it sure doesn't sound the same, I mean the 4 vocal sound which B2M is known for, however, so far he's doing a nice job, they ones performed with Marc Nelson of Az yet one of the original members.

I second this! Kenny Terry would be perfect!

Their 4th album is dope

@Charles Reed because they thought they could do it without Babyface.

@@ImDaFlyOne Babyface? Explain please.

They had an unmeasurable amount of ego.

Yet babyface is still cool with them I don't think they disrespect they just didn't wan't to do the song I'll make love to you because it sounded similar to end of the road

😂

😂🤣

Facts

😂 😂

Mike discussed it on Iyanla

Healing takes times.

But brothers dont always try to keep the family together...that wouldnt've been a true statement

It's business!

Lol 😆 🤣 😂 Stop it lol

@@macadon041 Mike "bass" mccary.he rarely sang as part of the group but he had a unique bass voice.i think he just wanted to leave the group.

Ohhhhh Ahhhh!

@@loveydovey1105 haha...yeah, uhh ahh His bass lines in that song was dope

Yasssssss! Oooh ahhh...🎶

Not true

@@veniswoodley5786 So tell me what the truth is? Michael's Bass and Swag stood Boys II Men from other Male R&B Boy Bands in the '90's. He had an appeal that elevated the Group both aesthetically and vocally. The ladies drooled for Mike. The other 3 Members lack such appeal. For trial, let them announce his comeback and see what would happen to their ticket sales, album sales and feature demands.

if their sales were affected, it wasn't so much because of some loss of sex appeal. If they were affected by the loss of a member, it is much like a child or children seeing a marriage go through separation and divorce and then trying to process, function, and have some normalcy in their lives in the aftermath. It's not the same. The remaining members emulate maturity to keep it together as they move on. At that time in the 90s all of the members had their own unique appeal. Boys 2 Men don't need a fourth member. That would affect their unique sound. Michael Jackspon did very well without Jermaine and Tito. I am sure of it. Boys 2 Men have stood the test of time and did what a lot of black groups, and people don't do. They did what was best for everyone instead of sabotaging themselves for the foolish loyalty over one member who failed them time and time again, after they tried to accommodate him. Forgiveness does not mean that you have to reconcile the relationship. PERIOD!

I beg to differ...

Sex symbol? Shawn and Wanya was the sexiest of the group,especially Shawn. Ain't no way Mike was a sex symbol of the group,what!

Do you know him

@@NorthPhilly-zr7xc just talked to him on the phone for about 10mins! Was just taking a message for G but we got to talking! Real cool cat! I wouldn’t say I know him but have talked before!

Facts!! Stop the separate interviews and hash this out.

I think Shawn explained what one of the issues was, Mike never enjoyed performing/singing at his core. It appears to have been more about the money for him🤷🏿‍♂️.

The broker person always has more rage lol

EnVogue is another group it didn’t work for. The ladies can sing but it’s not the same

To be fair, you would still have 3 the main singers. The bass doesn’t do many solos so it wouldn’t be a huge change in sound.

@@KM1980Music I disagree...the sound changed significantly; imo. He may not have had solos; however, his voice did give the group a distinctive sound.

Same here I like them as a quartet instead of being a three male group. But I'm glad never replace him at all. Cause he has the smoothiest voice out of all four of them.

You would have a point if not for the fact that Mike also didn't tell his wife and family what was going on with him.

His wife waved the car off...no the three of them went on with show. Almost gotbsues cause the promotors we're expecting four guys and only three showed up

​@@dillinghamfilmwho wife wave the car off

@@NorthPhilly-zr7xc Mike's wife waved off the car when they were flying to Romania for a show

@@dillinghamfilm this is what I've said since I first heard of the situation he couldve put them in legal trouble for5 breach of contract b not showing up so the business thing to do was right - let him go . and for his wife to mess up their ride/image like that is super stupid - he had to go

@@AtheneHolder THANK YOU