shelterlogic permanent structure - Part II

shelterlogic permanent structure - Part II - Metal Siding

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4 жыл бұрын

How to Customize a Shelter Logic 10’ x 20’ Tent - Part 2 of 3
Welcome to part 2 of 3 of converting my Shelterlogic 10x20x8 Autoshelter into a shed. We’re at the midway point. The framing is finished and secure, so today I’ll attach the metal siding to it. Having it covered will really put a big dent in the workload. Enjoy. And stay tuned for part 3. That’s when I’ll design and attach the doors.
Thanks for watching.
Until the next time, take care & God bless.
The Handy Outdoorsman

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@rnupnorthbrrrsm6123 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve watched every KZfaq video out there on how to reinforce my shelterlogic. This is the absolute best, not too complex, sturdy and looks the best of all videos out there !!! Well done, thank you so much !!!

@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 3 жыл бұрын

Glad this video was informative for you. Thanks for watching and commenting.

@piratetaylor29 2 жыл бұрын

You had me at Red siding. But what a great solution to year round changes in seasonal temperatures and snow! 🇺🇸👍🏻

@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 2 жыл бұрын

So far it has worked out great, no snow issues!!

@karjack11 2 ай бұрын

I've sat here at work trying to figure out my course of action to replace the canvas cover on my harbor freight cover pro shelter that is 2 years old and starting to crack. This is the solution! I was going to throw a 12mm thick tarp on top but I like this once and done idea!!

@Markofalltrades 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for showing the inside. That foam on the inside looks like it’ll hold out all the weather. Great idea

@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 4 жыл бұрын

Saved a lot of time in not filling all of those spaces. I will have to come back and fill the gaps with some spray foam but 97% of the shed is sealed.

@buckdragger9215 4 жыл бұрын

Nice job, looks great!

@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 3 жыл бұрын

Buckdragger, completely missed your comments, my apologies. Thank you!

@Pedroforpresident2024 3 жыл бұрын

That came out really nice, great job.

@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I too am pleased with the results. Sometimes the design in my head does not come out exactly as planned. Thanks for watching!

@davidfuller764 Жыл бұрын

Best build up I’ve seen. Thanks

@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 Жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@A_Pa-Plainjane 3 жыл бұрын

thx. appreciate your sharing your video. I can tell there has been a lot of careful and patient work in there. looking forward to seeing what else you will do.

@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching and commenting!

@piratetaylor29 2 жыл бұрын

You did a great job. This really came out nicely. What an upgrade from a tarp covering to the sheet metal. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🇺🇸

@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Glad I did this, as it is working out great.

@johnoswald6192 4 ай бұрын

Excellent job man. I'll do the same. Thanks for sharing this.

@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 4 ай бұрын

Your welcome - thanks for watching!

@Steve0885 Жыл бұрын

Awesome job!

@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 Жыл бұрын

Thank you sir. Glad you enjoyed it.

@jdram58 8 ай бұрын

I like this idea as sort of a template for like building a garage onto an older home only as sort of a lean-to shed off of the house itself. Either build it myself and kind of slowly over time frame it with wood so can insuilate or they do make metal studs and such for like office buildings and such for hanging sheet rock.

@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 8 ай бұрын

That is exactly what this was - a template. So many comments on "You could have just built it out of wood". Since the metal frame was in excellent condition why tear it down. Thanks for watching and commenting commenting!

@billlevassiur5891 5 ай бұрын

Great work

@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 5 ай бұрын

Thank you.

@keithnelson1123 3 жыл бұрын

👍 good job

@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it !!

@TheSouthdownband 2 жыл бұрын

I done the same thing with my 10x20 but i had 2 of them so took a few of the extra roof poles and wall poles and ran to autozone and grabbed a pipe expander then i added a 16" piece to each side of the roof poles so now instead of 10 feet wide its now 13 feet wide then instead of having the little over 6 foot side walls i now have 7 feet 8inches on the the sides, then i got really lucky and got a old roll up door from a storage unit that was 8 feet wide by 7 feet tall so i just framed in the end to accept the door, i also pulled in the sides to make them more plumb and i framed in a service door on the side, makes for a great work shop now, now if concrete would just get back into a reasonable price i would cement the floor but for now it is sitting on old pallets with 3/4" osb screwed to the top of the pallets, but over all these portable garages do make for a good metal structure after you are done, great job on yours!

@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 2 жыл бұрын

Wow, you went to town on yours compared to what I did. Having the extra height to install a proper garage door sounds sweet. Share a link to a video of it if you cane. Thanks for sharing!

@TheSouthdownband 2 жыл бұрын

@@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 i have not done any videos on it, i dont really do much for videos other than music and was into games a few years ago, but if i get the chance i will try to pop up a quick little vid and link it for you.

@youdandee1 7 ай бұрын

This should hold up here in South Dakota pretty good I have been thinking of doing something like this

@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 7 ай бұрын

The investment was worth it compared to the replacement that would only last 2 - 3 years. Have made no changes and still standing strong! Thanks for watching and commenting.

@Skunkwerx.Racing Жыл бұрын

Very cool

@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 Жыл бұрын

Thank you !

@theopiner402 3 жыл бұрын

Interesting foam there, I was expecting you to add some flashing around the corners. The whole shelter is a heck of a lot sturdier now that you've added the siding, amazing how much that helps to prevent racking.

@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 3 жыл бұрын

Flashing was my first choice then the clerk at the store suggested I use the foam as it was cheaper and easier. So far it is doing great as far as keeping the rain and bugs out, only time will tell. As for the structure, it is solid!!

@theopiner402 3 жыл бұрын

@@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 I am currently looking into ways to make my Shelter Logic last longer. I just got it this year and would like to beef it up while not upsetting my local building inspector. Living in town can be a drag...

@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 3 жыл бұрын

One of the things I did to keep the canvas rom from blowing in the wind to much was to lay 1/8 inch luan panels between the roof poles, stiffened it up a bit.

@theopiner402 3 жыл бұрын

@@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 Thank you for the suggestion!

@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 3 жыл бұрын

@@theopiner402 luckily we don't have building inspectors. It's rural zoned. I'm thinking of doing this design but "primitive" style using my backwoods logs. haha.

@jasonbabcock2742 4 жыл бұрын

Nice little shed mod. That should hold out a lot of the winter. Been thinking about building one that size of my own recently. I may try to upgrade a section of my pole barn though, using some ideas from some of your design mods, and pouring some concrete on the mostly dirt floor. Waiting for the ideas on the doors now......

@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 4 жыл бұрын

I was able to stand on the roof once completed so I am pretty confident that it will be able to handle the snow load. Having a concrete floor makes a huge difference, really glad we put it in.

@jasonbabcock2742 4 жыл бұрын

@@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 did you ever consider running the roof corrugations the other direction? I know it's more work but would drain the snow rain ice quicker. Just interested in your thought process.

@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 4 жыл бұрын

Yes I did and was going to install it that way at first, however bending the metal in that direction was far more difficult at the end that connects into the red siding. I would not have had the smooth transition between the roof and sides without modifications to fill the gap. You are correct that the rain/snow would drain better had I ran the metal in the other direction, but hoping by putting in the caulk between the overlapping pieces it wont leak.

@rnupnorthbrrrsm6123 3 жыл бұрын

Jason your question about running the panels the other direction has been one of my dilemmas, I live in northern Minnesota so we get a lot of snow and I’m worried that, like on a house it could create ice dams from the sun hitting the metal melting a little snow, it soaking into other snow sitting on those ridges and then freezing. Maybe with no heat in the structure the metal wouldn’t warm enough from just the sun to have the freeze thaw issue, not until spring anyway 🤷‍♀️? I’m a middle age single woman so this is a big project for me, running the panels the other way would be waaaaaay to much for me to do 🥺 Thanks for asking “my”question 😉😉 So I’m happy he answered and you two solved my problem.....well not completely, I still need to do this and don’t have a man to help me ☹️

@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885 3 жыл бұрын

@@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 I was wondering about this for the snow sliding off - interesting design to close off the gap between roof and wall. I built a primitive "shed" hut using a double wattle insulated clay-slip hay and so I still have gaps in the corners and between roof and walls. I did fill in with various means. Of course I need some ventilation for the wood stove. haha. Glad I'm not the only one seeing sunlight from the inside.

@harryrenner4016 3 жыл бұрын

I have a ten ft. By ten ft.Shelter Logic shed. and about the first ten months it was fine. but now the wind has ripped it apart. It tried to get a hold of the Shelter logic company. to see about getting another cover for it but no luck. maybe something along this route would be the way to go. I have had thought about taking it down but the frame is still in excellent condition. I'm going to have to check into seeing maybe if I can do something similar to this maybe.

@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 3 жыл бұрын

A little planning with some trial and error and you can do it. Thanks for watching and commenting.

@Mr.SuperDuper-idk 4 ай бұрын

I seen a lot of guys putting the panels on roof with ridges wrong way. It starting to make me feel like I shouldn’t worry about it. BUT I CANT!

@frankofthenorth 4 ай бұрын

looks kind of like pre-installed snow stops

@kepp72 Жыл бұрын

You can buy self tapping metal to metal color matched screws

@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 Жыл бұрын

Not that I am aware of, was not able to find then. Was not really a big deal to use the punch to create a pilot hole.

@user-nf5zc3ny9y Жыл бұрын

This is a great video, thanks for posting! I have framed mine out and hoping to side it in the coming weeks. Wondering how you accessed the peak of the roof for screwing in the metal? Were you able to reach from a ladder?

@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 Жыл бұрын

Because of the extra framing the roof was very solid to climb on and I was able to climb on top with no issues. Glad you enjoyed the video!

@DAngeloDino 7 ай бұрын

Excellent work! Where did you get the metal siding and did you make the foam shaped corner inserts? Thank you!

@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 7 ай бұрын

Thank you! All materials came from Menards.com

@kenputer56 2 жыл бұрын

Some diagonal wind braces would take any movement away

@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 2 жыл бұрын

By the time I am finish, all of the racking is fixed.

@leonelsantiago9196 2 жыл бұрын

Nice!!... I'm curious.... I need permit for built this in my rear yard?

@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 2 жыл бұрын

That depends on your local code and building allowances. Where I am at there are no restrictions.

@tedhicks5431 3 жыл бұрын

Try some of that sticky duct seal it like silly pudding but very sticky like mastic tape

@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 2 жыл бұрын

Are you referring to "Butile tape"?

@tedhicks5431 2 жыл бұрын

@@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 im sorry I have small box in work van it came from hvac parts house on a wax paper roll

@Lauren-vd4qe 2 жыл бұрын

Im about to attach ondura roof panels composite asphalt lightweight ones onto a similar structure. what did u use to screw through the panels and into the metal tubing? i see you did not screw through the whole metal tubing, so if you dont bolt it through and secure with a bolt on the inside of the tubing, will it not eventually pull the screw/shim on the top, out? ie get loose? would drilling 2 holes in the metal tubing to put a bolt/shim/bolt to secure the panel, would that compromise the strength of the metal tubing if it had 2 holes drilled instead of just using a screw /shim with 1 hole?

@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 2 жыл бұрын

In the video it shows that I use 1 inch screws with washers. The metal is very thin so much of the screw is connected into the poles and wood. So far I have not had any issues with the screws not holding, the metal is still securely secured. I am not familiar with the ondura panels.

@Lauren-vd4qe 2 жыл бұрын

@@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 ok thnx

@ATCRyderX 2 жыл бұрын

Question: I'm just noticing at the last minute of the video to the left (or *your* right) The cuts on the lumber. My Apologies if you explained this elsewhere but are you using notches *and* holes? AT 1st I thought just holes...Then I'm like "oh...notches...ok". lol Thank you in advance.

@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 2 жыл бұрын

I am using holes at the top and notches on the bottom.

@ATCRyderX 2 жыл бұрын

@@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 *That* is what I assumed after noticing this. Huge Thank you, Brother! Have a great day!!

@pennypockets3162 2 жыл бұрын

How many metal screws and washers did you use? Approximetly?

@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 Жыл бұрын

Bags were 50 per bag, used less then 2 bags.

@Harleyrk99 Жыл бұрын

Great job, unfortunately shelterlogic products are crap. I have the same one you have and mine did not last one season. I am wonderingg how tall yours is? I am 6' myself and I don't believe my center is as high as yours. But not only did my canvass rip in the wind but it twisted the pipes causing them to crease as well. I taped up the canvass tears with 6" wide water tight tape but was dumfounded on how to reinforce the framing. Thank you for the advice I will be following it. 👍

@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 Жыл бұрын

Glad the videos were helpful,

@RyanConrod 8 ай бұрын

How did this hold up to rain? Does it leak anywhere?

@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 8 ай бұрын

No leaks from the metal - only from the bottom. Where the water runs off the top and sides it seeps underneath the sides to the inside - no standing water but the concrete is damp. What I need to do is build a lean to off each side to divert the water from getting to the concrete.

@piratetaylor29 2 жыл бұрын

Are those metal panels from Shelter Logic or from your local store?

@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 2 жыл бұрын

They are from Menards. Other big box stores carry them as well.

@junkcarz4720 3 жыл бұрын

Where u get panels

@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 3 жыл бұрын

Menards

@jmilz08 7 ай бұрын

Shouldn’t the metal roof lay the other way ? ( actually wondering )for the roof at least

@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 7 ай бұрын

I get this question a lot. Due to the ribbing in the metal it can’t be bent to match the curve to meet the sides. So far no issues with snow load or water leaking.

@jmilz08 7 ай бұрын

@@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 okay thanks . So water doesn’t leak / drip really inside

@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 7 ай бұрын

No - I put a bead of caulk where each piece over laps - have since discovered Butle tape - works far better.

@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 7 ай бұрын

@@jmilz08 No leaks from the roof. I do get water on the floor from the base as the snow builds up from the sides and as it melts it seeps under the base and wicks inside

@marklastname7047 Жыл бұрын

Where get siding ??

@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 Жыл бұрын

All supplies came from menards.com

@kinazz19 3 жыл бұрын

What are the measurements of the 2x4s and cuts? I want to frame out my shelter logic for more support

@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 3 жыл бұрын

I purchased 7' 2x4's and cut them off where the sides and the tops meet, so I do not have an accurate measurement to give. Also keep in mind that the metal frame was not squared so not every 2x4 was the same height.

@kinazz19 3 жыл бұрын

@@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 okay thanks I’ll figure it out👍🏼👍🏼

@Mr.SuperDuper-idk 4 ай бұрын

Rain/ leaves/ etc Cant slide off I HATE IT

@happythompson4394 Жыл бұрын

Approx cost of siding?

@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 Жыл бұрын

Watch part III for cost

@user-jj8iv9wz9v Жыл бұрын

Why not strap it back? The other way and stand your sheets up and down same with the roof strap the roof and put your sheets going up and down

@donjones1262 2 жыл бұрын

So the water runs off the roof ok?

@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 2 жыл бұрын

yes it does. between the chaulk and butle tape no leaks between the seams

@donjones1262 2 жыл бұрын

@@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 Don't know why more contractors wouldn't run these sheets the same way. Save of roof 2x4 laterals. Just mount direct on the truss.

@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 2 жыл бұрын

Perhaps the look? If the building was more square I would have mounted the metal vertical vs horizontal. Still, this worked and looks decent 😉

@antoninoarato 2 жыл бұрын

Where to buy red metal?

@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 2 жыл бұрын

Menards.com

@Curious_Skeptic 3 жыл бұрын

Sooo.... the Shetlerlogic is really just a template/guide? Not sure what advantage there is to this, vs just frame a proper shed? Interesting none the less....

@thehandyoutdoorsman9014 3 жыл бұрын

Since the frame was already there and still very solid I just built off of that. If you don't have it you could just build a separate frame. Thanks for watching!