dubprocesslbc have a great life sir

I don’t have the ZR2, or the diesel but I really like my Colorado. Got it at the end of the year and no diesels were to be had. After a year, do you still love your truck? ZR2 is nice, but would have loved to have the baby Duramax!

I love my girlfriend’s truck I help her get it she has the diesel colorado

I’ve been driving a TRD Off Road for about a month and I love it. But those Colorado’s are pretty dang sweet! I dig the body style.

There is nothing hostile about bringing up legendary Toyota reliability vs miserable chevy record.

4Runner TRD has a rear diff lock standard. It also has the A-Trac system that is awesome - there are plenty of videos showing it in action. But the bottom line is durability, and nobody even comes close to Toyota.

aww did this video hurt your feelings?

Yep, the main reason to get a tacoma. Nothing against the chevy, it just wont last as long

Basekitball Yeah, just like that eh, rusty frame

@@danr3545 free replacement, so non-issue

Basekitball I’m sure it wasn’t a “non-issue” for all those customers who were without their trucks for all that time.

I have a 2002 with 213k and it's an absolute beast and still worth almost 10k

Mark Brand they hold value that's for sure. My dad actually bought it in 2003 when I was 9 and gave it to me 4 years ago. I could never sell it. Been maintaining it since and I'm sure I'll die before it does.

Yeah I'm on my second taco. Bought a 98 in 04 for $8500 sold it in '13 for $6500. I'm probably about to sell my taco because I just got married and we're trying to put ourselves through college debt free but I'm pretty sure I'll get another one in the future.

I'm really sad though because I like 1st gens and I probably won't own one again. I might buy one just for camping and stuff though. I just think a lot about safety and the 20-25 yr old technology would make me nervous to daily drive after I graduate.

I have an 01 Ram with 435,000 miles. Your point?

I agree

Well, looks like if Toyota needs a bailout for their factory, they'll have to get it from Mexico 🇲🇽! Thanks Toyota!

Jorel Davis ground clearance at the diff. Subarus are 4 corner IFS which automatically gives them an edge with ground clearance. Chevy should've went with at least a 32" if not a 33" tire for the ZR2 version. Where the ZR2 thrives is traction not ground clearance for the time being

Jesse Hernandez 33's are possible on the ZR2 of a 1" body lift is installed according to GM engineers.

Jesse Hernandez Then why give it a front locker? You can't use a front locker on high speed desert running with all those corners. Makes no sense and with all that traction you still need clearance for whoops. Clearance is the most important thing when off roading right after suspension and recovery gear.

Jordan Yang because it's design was to be more than just a desert runner.the front locker allows this vehicle to be more capable than a typical 2wd prerunner with a rear locker. For someone like me who doesn't always have a boat launch and has to beach launch. Front and rear lockers made the world of difference. This is the adventure vehicle. If you've ever desert run you would know that ultimate ground clearance isn't what is important, it's wheel travel.

yes, that extra half, yes, half inch of ground clearance on the trd is going to make all the difference. The Colorado has stock rock slider rails in case that .5 inches makes all the difference. Your argument is pretty weak.

Thank you for saying that. Amen

I wanted a Tacoma so bad, but I just couldnt feel comfortable in it. I took it for a test drive 3 times! 3! But I just couldnt convince myself into buying it ... so i ended up with a Tundra TRD ... ironically for less price. than a Tacoma TRD manual. Hmmm sometimes the "market" is not rational.

I had the Tacoma, my right hip kept falling asleep. I'm not a huge dude, I'm pretty well fit, 6'1" and it was awful on longer jaunts. I also despised that damn motor, it was fine with the stock tire, I put on some BFG AT's that were just a little bit bigger and boy did that ruin the vehicle. It was awful for fuel economy, terrible at finding gears going fast (where I live the freeway is 75mph), I was going to chase the rabbit with a rear gear after putting on an Icon stage 4. The hip thing progressed worse and worse, to the point I started to get scared. Now, one thing about that Tacoma, it was worth damn near what I bought it for, which is something I've only had in a few other vehicles (those were typically insanely discounted, not something Toyota does with Tacomas). So far, I love the ZR2 (we have a diesel), it fits on trails, is very stable on the highway, rarely shifts at high speeds, accelerates on par with the Tacoma we had, even to the point my wife thinks the ZR2 is faster. It can go fast off road, and on the highway it is just a joy, not to spongy but not so stiff you think you're in a one ton. I don't find myself going, "oh man I wish I had gotten the V6", ever.

I like the seating position though

James Flores how tall are u? Weight? That has a lot to do with it

im 6ft 1in 195 lbs

I'm still driving my 2003 4Runner Sport with the 4.7-liter V8, but I'm starting to shop around for something newer. I wish Toyota would make their trucks and SUVs a little more comfortable and luxurious with more power and better technology, but I guess they don't want to compete against themselves (Lexus). I'm waiting to see what the new Ford Ranger has to offer before I make a decision. I've seen some photos of late model "Ranger Raptors" that seem pretty appealing.

Joseph Smith Sure

If you're looking for good resale value, Toyota would have been the better choice. Chevy products drop like a rock.

Joseph Smith glad you love it! I have a z71 Colorado and it's perfect for me.

No doubt you are right about that. I did look like I said but man this Chevy just did it for me big time. 5 months later and I still LOVE it like the day I bought it...actually even better!

You must be tech to know that

@@whalman511 He's a scientist

Chad M fat guy can’t be comfortable on the Tacoma’s seats.... I wonder why!?!?

Chad M lol

Hehe

Buuuuuuuurrrrrrpppppppp!!!!!!!!

Chad are you flirting with the big guy? chubby chaser.

👍👍👍👍

😂😂

Maybe you're just to small? Just sayin'

I'm way smaller than this dude. But I'm 6'2" ,and yes they feel hella cramped, unbearable for a daily driver.

Terrence Jones "unbearable" STFU

Any garage in America will fit a fullsize truck. smh

You are right buddy ......I love my taco

😂

Listen I know how much you Toyota guys like to think that but truth is this truck is all new so it will take a while to see if this particular truck and design can survive the test of time.

@@k.tucker2011 All new since 2016 yes. So the exact same arguement your attempting to defend the chevy with are LITERALLY identical for the chevy as well. So........ back at you? But let me do a quick mic drop, what's the number 1 midsize truck for pretty much the last decade? tacoma. What vehicle has gotten the highest resale value for about the same amount of time? Tacoma. The numbers speak for themselves, fan or not.

@@herpderp1662 I actually wasn't defending or bashing anything just speaking the truth about reputation and reliability. The facts are that Chevy and Toyota make pretty good vehicles. The engines in GM are beyond great and Toyotas just make you feel good knowing your money was invested well.

compliments both trucks and gives what he doesn't like about both trucks. how did you go with he is a chevy guy?

Umm, did you not watch the video? Torque, offroad capability (double lockers), better tires, better suspension, better seating, better gui, more rear leg room.

sputnikalgrim If amuses you? More like it annoys you bwahahaha

Sputnikalgrim It always amazes me that people like you ignore the elephant in the room. Most of us aren’t debating just ride quality or comfort, etc. We are talking about the poor quality of GM products. Sure it might be fun to drive but who wants to always be having it repaired?

I don't have experience with the latest gm stuff but I will never forget garbage it was making up to 15 years ago when I was in the automotive inspections business. I do not beleive for a second that American Corp culture has changed.

Gm is part of the problem the z71 and zr2 colorado are the exception. I just bought a trd off road, and was looking at the z71 Silverado, it was the most pussyfied truck I have ever been in. The z71 has the same ground clearance ad the standard Silverado. Now even know it's gone on the 2019 that front bumper hangs so low not only does it look bad I would end up ripping that piece off. I means it's a nice well crafted truck and still not as bad as the new auto start stop f150. Toyota is like an old dog it takes a beating and comes back for more.

Kornholeeoo They threw a front locker on a truck with 8.9" of clearance and racing shocks. I don't think Chevy knows what a front locker is used for.

Why do you say that? He explained in the review why he likes the Chevy better, so what's your reasoning?

They should both be holding up fine. Especially if these motherfuckers cost 40k.

Kornholeeoo 1

Who cares about 10 yrs, when the Toy is going to be getting stuck without a front locker half the time.

Except when they break in half from rusting through the frame rails

@@vilneas6358 thats the 2nd gen

@@wagsbro2044 Go to google images and see how much the 2nd generation rust. It's almost unbelievable how much they rust in as low as 2 years.

@@fulfilledlife9211 they replaced the entire frames for free.... for everyone... but yeah would've been spooky then.

@@vilneas6358 umm, nope

Jordan Alonso Not true anymore, look at the reliability ratings on the new Tacoma, seems to be a ton of issues with them.

William Stewart only the base model (4 cylinders) and the reason for that is basically it is too small and engine and can't quite support the trucks weight. Unless you looked at a different article, in that case I'll have to do some more research.

Jordan Alonso exactly all our toyota have a 150000 plus with no promblems

Ha I've had plenty of chevys rolling 300k and sold them to respectable owners!!!

But are you realy going to keep that truck for 300k miles lol. It takes almost 20 years just to make it to 150k.

Yep, the ZR2 looks like a shrunken Avalanche. No creativity, no imagination from Chevy

Love mine too! Best in its class

I love my 2017 tacoma! I live in the sticks and it beats anything off road. I never get stuck and can haul way more than what is advertised.

In Chevy's defense I think the only thing that could look uglier than the Avalanche is the original Honda Ridgeline.

Chapo Guzman LOL! Good one.

No shit I'm tired of these pansy FB "SO CALLED OFF ROAD ROAD BASTARDS" complaining about in convenience. FUCK are you kidding me off roading Is a sport through and throughout. So unless they make vagina text trolls off roader's then shit lets communism it all!!!

eric rush If you're racing off road you need a suspension that will soak up the bumps so you can keep control at high speeds. Off roading isn't just mudding bud

A smooth ride means the tires are constantly in contact with the ground as the springs and dampeners are pushing down onto the ground all the time, and they make the right adjustments even as new bumps appear and fall away. This is pretty much the most important part of a high speed offroad vehicle and the result is a smooth ride.

What is this guy smoking you can even feel rocks in trophy trucks

The exact same time a tacoma was on one. Which is never. Every one else in the world gets the Helix, not the tacoma.

He said Chevy as the brand not the model, Toyota's are used on African safaris all the time Land Cruisers mainly but *NO* Chevys at all. :/

Isuzu D-max..... all the time. Isuzu d-max is more like the colorado than the tacoma is like the hilux.

All they can afford is shit 😀

@@TheGamerXL Because chevy don't sell in Africa?

You certainly don't *need* it. But it also doesn't hurt. It was probably easier for Chevy to leave it in there for the diesel ZR2 than to take it out.

comes standard on all Duramax's. If you get the z71 package instead of the zr2 you can tow closer to 7500 - 8k LBS

per chevy's website z71-7000/ zr2 - 5000

mojoriden 7700 lbs for the 2wd diesel

Jorel Davis No you don't need it. It comes with 4-wheel disc brakes standard and a trailer brake controller that actually works, unlike the junk half-defective one Toyota puts in their trucks lately.

The ZR2 Duramax will out tow the Toyota any day They just gave it that rating because it's higher off the ground Also the front bumper has air dams blocking the radiator you just need to take those out for your transmission to keep cool GM doesn't wanna deal with all of the red tape putting a tow rating like that but they go 8000 pounds easily I just towed a 3500 pound trailer with a 6000 pound truck Only sag a few inches and had plenty of control of course with trailer electric brakes helping and a sway bar

I seriously doubt American corporate "philosophy" has changed over the last 15 years since I left the field. Just look at all fups from ford and the rest, numerous lawsuits... I've seen so many ridiculous screw-ups from detroit that I would NEVER come close any of their masterpieces.

the best way I heard it is that Toyotas are "Taliban Tested" lol

Steve Kioussis Yep, it’s kind of boring...but every fairly recent adventure/exploration documentary and war zone newscast has at least one (sometimes all) Toyota truck/suv in them. That use to be Range Rover territory.

thats why its the #1 truck for ISIS

First Denied nah, Iran's really been pushing the Nissan Frontier for ISIS

It also is proven to suck on fuel milage!!!!

Jeremy Bonham There's been plenty of problems with the new Tacos, the 3.5 is a misfit in my opinion. The old 4.0 was a gem, should've built off that.

Jeremy Bonham The 2016 Tacoma was determined to be the least reliable midsize truck of 2016 based on Consumer Report's annual member survey. Not to mention Toyota has had to issue recalls for engines that stall and rear axles that fail and lock up. AND they still haven't fixed all the issues with the auto transmission. www.tacomaworld.com/threads/truck-dead-lol.487443/ www.tacomaworld.com/threads/taco-down.488686/ www.tacomaworld.com/threads/on-the-side-of-the-interstate-help.485307/ www.tacomaworld.com/threads/2016-tacoma-broke-down-today-17-000-miles.487499/ www.tacomaworld.com/threads/imminent-crankshaft-position-sensor-cps-failure-in-2016s.442304/ www.tacomaworld.com/threads/3rd-gen-clunks-and-stalls-on-freeway-gets-towed.490294/ www.tacomaworld.com/threads/anyone-else-crank-shaft-position-sensor-problem-in-the-2016-trd-off-road.404275/ www.tacomaworld.com/threads/2016-tacoma-stalling.482802/ www.tacomaworld.com/threads/2016-tacoma-trd-cam-position-sensor-oil-leak.447678/ www.tacomaworld.com/threads/timing-cover-leaking-oil.484372/ www.tacomaworld.com/threads/new-video-of-a-3rd-gen-with-a-blown-rear-differential.482724/ www.tacomaworld.com/threads/long-story-only-read-if-bored-on-a-toliet-my-transmission-story-and-identification-of-a-lemon.447673/ www.tacomaworld.com/threads/1650-for-a-new-complete-engine-wire-harness.484355/ www.tacomaworld.com/threads/overheating-at-highway-speeds-with-a-c-on.482551/ www.tacomaworld.com/threads/automatic-transmission-terrible.486800/ www.tacomaworld.com/threads/16-tacoma-auto-transmission-slipping.485093/ www.tacomaworld.com/threads/what-to-do-with-a-sh-t-tranny-in-a-new-2017-dcsb-or.485323/ www.tacomaworld.com/threads/brake-malfunction-and-cel.399319/ www.tacomaworld.com/threads/2017-tacoma-needs-new-engine-block.485107/ www.tacomaworld.com/threads/rear-differential-locked-up-while-doing-55mph.468484/ www.tacomaworld.com/threads/traded-in-the-taco.489132/ www.tacomaworld.com/threads/check-engine-and-trac-off-light.397490/ www.tacomaworld.com/threads/whirring-noise-when-pressing-clutch.487116/ www.tacomaworld.com/threads/2016-6-cylinder-6-speed-automatic-erratic-shifting-and-drivability-problems.401475/ www.tacomaworld.com/threads/manual-trans-fluid-underfilled-at-factory.490295/ www.tacomaworld.com/threads/38-000-miles-4-leaking-shocks-and-leaking-power-steering-pump.490381/ www.tacomaworld.com/threads/rear-differential-recall.489235/ www.tacomaworld.com/threads/buzzy-vibration-at-certain-rpms-read-before-buying.397620/ www.tacomaworld.com/threads/3rd-gen-oil-leak.492840/ www.tacomaworld.com/threads/improper-pinion-angle-work-completed.452929/ www.tacomaworld.com/threads/brake-malfunction-and-cel.399319/ www.tacomaworld.com/threads/check-your-u-joints.409042/ www.tacomaworld.com/threads/ecgs-bushing-didnt-fix-the-vibe.492599/ www.tacomaworld.com/threads/using-crawl-control-ended-up-costing-me-1100-in-broken-parts.474221/

Jeremy Bonham And where do you get "way better" resale value? The Colorado has been on Kelly Blue Book's Top Ten list for best resale value for 3 years in a row now and within 10% of the Tacoma. The Tacoma's decades of severe frame rot is a major factor not accounted for with resale value too. Not to mention the 3.5 V6 is not as proven like the 4.0 V6 was. Already, the 3.5 has had issues with oil leaks, crank position sensor failures, high pressure fuel pump failures, etc.

hochhaul You're right about the engine. It was supposed to be the one from the Lexus that was supposed to be bulletproof. Not proving to be the same one now. I got the last year of the 2 no Gen Tacos. 2015. That 4L V6 is a beast and I love it. The only thing I wished it had was heated mirrors and true front locking diff. But I was not going to buy the 3rd Gen because of the engine alone. Kudos to Chevy for making a true front locking diff.

Kornholeeoo The 4.0 is a great engine, more torque and proven reliability. Toyota should have never removed it as an option for the 3rd gen.

Please make sure you come back and update your excitement every time it's at the dealership.

@@nofyfb123 lol sure bud. Haters gonna hate

@@mp211204 You sure have the right to ignore facts and statistical data but your denial doesn't change either. I don't "hate" - my statement is based on nearly 20 years of experience as an Automotive Mechanical Breakdown Investigator. I despise detroit (and not only detroit, BTW) not because it's detroit but because it's been run by lawyers rather than engineers and because it relies on meaningless deceptive commercials rather than making good reliable product. Sorry for breaking it down to you...

.5 inches.... really? smh. Better off-road capability: double lockers, better tires, better shocks, more torque, better user interface.

My 2016 Colorado was junk.

Only trashy people like Chevys.

Kal P I’ve been saying this forever. Everyone saying “Put a V8 in it! Put a V8 in it!” WHY? To tow? No one buying these trucks uses them on a regular basis to tow. That’s what a full size is for. I bought a ZR2 because I want to off road, not pull a horse trailer.

Who cares about being broke in when brand new it's going to be stuck with only one locking diff.

Butt hurt

most people...

Ricky bobby I’m sure the only thing you could afford is that trashy beer. Why are you adding your opinion to something that is so beyond you ?

Es T I’m looking to by a 2019, I have been on the Tacoma off road page for a couple months. Lots of transmission and drive line complaints. Turned me off on the tacos and I drove a fj40 land cruiser for 13 years.

rodney roby cars.usnews.com/cars-trucks/rankings/compact-pickup-trucks Not just them, words getting out where Toyota really ranks

Wow Honda #1?! Crazy rankings

rodney roby www.caranddriver.com/best-pickup-trucks The truth is where just how low the Toyotas are ranking by legitimate auto journalists.

Yeah I know, what are we working with comfort or work

Toyota has more ground clearance right

Hey guess what a ZR2 just beat the record on a Baja course Including every raptor that ran it Also you cannot go where one of these could because they're smaller the frame is tougher you can't jump them as hard Believe me a collision frame expert looked at both of them the ZR2 is built a lot better for jumping Also I'm going to get the twin turbo kit for the diesel and I will be able to keep up with any raptor on the straightaway And I only spent 37K brand new midnight addition I could almost buy 2 for one raptor

Zachary basically it’s an Isuzu D max

I smell fanboy

@@jeremyfufushnick2965 I know you ain't talkin to me, but hell why not be a fanboy? Do you like something in your life better than something else that is suppose to do the same thing? I mean anything? Do you know for a fact that something in your life works alot better than that of what your friend may have?...(no specific item). Yes you do because everyone has something like that. no matter the item. Toyota Trucks and SUV's have proven themselves time and time again...Am i a fan boy? Hell yeah.... but only because I have been on both sides. Not because i tried one and have buyers remorse, and am now trying to justify it. Facts dude.. Fuck GM.

U can buy a Chevy used for 5 k lol