Anything can go wrong with any frame not only Chinese carbon mountain bike frame!

This is great!

It does say developed by NS right in the ad page.

Did you ever make a part 2 to this?

I have 3 Chinese carbon MTB frames built up so far, and i have plans for a 4th bike. I beat my bikes in Colorado, Moab, and lots of other places with no frame problems at all. I've never paid more than $700 USD for a carbon frame.

I purchased an Iplay 156 (A knockoff scott spark 27.5 with more travel) all the way back in 2014 and rode it for a year. It was sold, no issues with the actual carbon, but the hardware it came with was all made of butter and needed to be replaced. I work at a shop so it wasn't hard for me to measure, although sourcing was slightly harder. Someone might struggle a lot sorting these issues out, and at least for me the frame was a little un-rideable with the stock hardware.

After a lot of km on my FM936 I can say this thing is the abolute coolest shit. Trailriding, commuting, touring. This thing does it all. Killer bike with 120/107mm suspension 8my(my build) Awesome geometry.

currently in the process of purchasing a carbonda cfr696. Adam the rep has been a great communicator and very helpful in the process so far. just waiting to see if they are able to do the color way i'm asking for. Riding gravel forum has a lot of information on this company and many complete builds by others who have bought from this company.

Hi David. I just recently ordered my third Chinese carbon frame. I'm a fairly heavy rider (240 lbs ride weight) and have put over 3,500 miles on my two year old Chinese carbon full suspension frame. I'm routinely doing tons of rocks and roots, 2-3 foot drops to flat and some small jumps. In that time, I've sheared one hollow alloy pivot bolt, which they quickly replaced under warranty. I snapped one derailleur hanger, which I had purchased extras of ahead of time. I also replaced the frame bearings with SKF bearings, paying out of pocket. Otherwise, the frame has been flawless. Its got plenty of scrapes and scratches, some fairly deep, but no signs of cracking, delaminating or bubbling in any way. A thread together BB92 bracket went a long way towards keeping the bike quiet. My frame has internal cable routing, but no built in cable tubing, so it does suffer from some cable slap over rough terrain, though plenty of name brand bikes suffer the same. My bike arrived with a flawless matte black finish. A buddy who ordered the same frame off eBay received one with some visual defects where you can see the layup seams, but is still functionally perfect. Just something to keep in mind, as the absolute cheapest available retailers may cut some corners in terms of finish. But over all, I have been very happy with my current two frames, and I am eagerly awaiting my new one. I've also had great luck with Chinese carbon rims. However I have managed to break a pair of $12 carbon handlebars with a "stomp test". Better to break the bars underfoot in my garage than out on the trail with my face. For now, I'm sticking to name brand carbon handlebars. Also, it's worth noting that Chinese factories may be affected by the current coronavirus outbreak. Between the lunar new year, and the coronavirus scare, factory direct sellers seem to be slower than usual to respond. You may want to figure that into your review.

This frame... fm936... is a WRC thunder 2020 and thunder/dark 2021. And mendiz x40 2020.

Hi David, nice to see you took my comment in your ns bike review to make a new video about china bikes... I'm now 500km further biking (the picture you showed was also my bike;-)) and loving m more and more. It will cost you around 850dollars incl shipment. Communication is normally very fast, but now just after chinees holiday and with the virusissue it will take more time.. I tell you this...i'm loving china carbon that much I also bought carbon rims by nextie to match the china carbon thing. Continu the nice vids...really wondering what your opinion will be!

i bought the carbonda cfr696 and its doing very well.

Main difference is the big manufacturers have strict quality control on what comes out of Chinese factories. The no name ones usually dont.

Iv been looking at this frame just wondering if you have received it yet and what’s your thoughts

dadi kesimpulane piye lek ? apik ora frame iki ?

Hi, I cant find the follow up video to this can you please link me to it, I'm considering that same frame

A few lads at my club have Chinese road bike frames and they swear by them. My son has three sets of Chinese carbon wheels and they are superb. As you say most branded carbon bikes come from here anyway and I guess if they sold us rubbish the orders would soon dry up.

I did get a Chinese frame, no branding but identical to a big name frame that costs 5x much. Works fine, rides good as well. The only issue is the paint job, its not that good as the more expensive ones.

Carbonda, Dengfu, Hongfu, Lightcarbon, Yoleo,... are not UNBRANDED chinese frame manufacturer.

built my 29er hardtail chinese carbon frame 2 years ago..no isssue even with moderate trail use.. i bent my drop out once and contacted the seller who promptly sent me replacements ..paint is matte and isnt fairing too well from use but still good.. overall cost was about 1500 compared to spending 2500 for something comparable

Hi, did you end up buying one of these ?

Try and get a £250 on. I might get one so I want to see what it would be like and also because it is cheap and most of them are like £1000

I linked to the frame in your Pinkbike story. Have you heard back from them? I ordered a frame last month, but it was returned to sender and they've been closed for weeks (holiday/coronavirus). Since you rode the NS... would the medium be appropriate for somebody 5'10"? I raced a Pro-mance M7007-II frame in Whistler/Squamish all summer and had no issues, certainly sold me on Chinese frames from reputable sellers. I also have 3 seasons or Chinese carbon wheels (Light Bicycle), lots of bike park laps, no issues.

You can't go wrong with Carbonda.

Looks exactly like a trek remedy?

This frame looks very similar to NS Bikes Synonyn 🤔 the same geometry numbers. Do they copy NS Synonyn or other way ? 😲

Buy a light carbon frame. Load it up with 160 to 180 mm suspension.Add suspension lockout. Add dropper post and huge oversized tires. Now you have a 32+ lb. bike that is slow uphill and down. Ive been mtbing for 30 years. Things have gotten real stupid. The goal used to be a 25 lb. or less bike that ripped uphill and downhill. Long travel bikes are fine in the proper setting but now people are buying them to ride our local trails where around 100mm front and rear is really all you need. Just like those stupid gravel bikes. We already have cx bikes. And gravel bikes are slowly morphing into short travel 29er mtbs. Both of which are already here. And you get to pay 5g or more for a porky sled. Innovation?

Did you buy one??? Update pleas =)

My current bike a Lightcarbon lcfs958 I sold my Intense Recluse the minute i saw this frame and fell in love. m.pinkbike.com/photo/18106509/ www.lightcarbon.com/all-new-lightcarbon-trail-mtb-frame-lcfs958_p118.html With the money saved i was able to pimp it out Trickstuff Piccola brakes Chris king hubs di2/sram xx1 cassette mag/ti ht pedals revive dropper. 27.5 lbs and now running a Trust Shout fork. It flies and carries speed thru roots very well. One last thing you need to know is it will be very dependent on the right shock tune. I am running a fox with a digressive compression tune. For me at 140lbs it works very well. (Wouldn't suggest it for someone any heavier though) Sits up and pedals and combined with the high leverage of a 130mm travel on a 165x45 shock it gets out of the way on small and big hits. Also subscribed and very interested in seeing your video series on this bike. Be aware that the virus has hit them hard and will surely delay your getting a frame. Get clear glossy finish and add some ams or dyedbro frame protection. It will look dope. Peace.

david arthur

I had BAD LUCK with Chinese Carbon Seat Post , Qyality Control CRAP !!!! Fake VCLS was too Big - Seller Told me To Sand Down to Fit my 2015 Cannondale F29 Alloy - WTF !!! another ASIACOM was too small Diameter 2020 Just Comitted to a FM-M009 Frameset - Fingers Crossedwith a Used Niner RDO Rigid Fork 15mmx100mm

Fast answer: NO.

I think this is the same frame where a guy with a broken leg rode before.

David, I've bought a Chinese carbon ROAD frame in December 2019. It is very very similar to the Canyon Ultimate CF SLX 8.0. Close to 2000km nows now, no issues at all. Runs superbly. Only problem I had was building the bike since I am not an experience mechanic. I ended up taking it to a LBS to get it done properly. Image: → i.imgur.com/RVRBeaL.jpg

Buyer beware

If you will died, then buy!

The point is: don't go for carbon, go for metal and get a motor.

The answer is no. How do you conveniently warranty it with China being so far away? Buy from a bike shop for that very reason. And for your safety.

If you value not having any broken bones, I wouldn't buy a Chinese frame.

david arthur