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@kelley71 5 ай бұрын

If Fender would just add a built in attenuator to the valve amps, I personally feel they would sell well because this is what hobbiest are seeking. IMHO

@lowercase3635 2 ай бұрын

They did make one. It’s call the Princeton Recording Amp.

@frankcline66 2 ай бұрын

I would if i were you and played that style of music. I would play an amp of different brand names. Not a put down at all, dont get me wrong. When i was young I played your style on Marshalls and Peavey's. Since now I'm older than dirt i play old country, Merle Haggard, Walon and George Jones, i find i absolutely love the Princeton sound for that. Clean with a compressor, slap back delay and a little boost its awesome. Thank you for posting this video and continue your talent this world needs all styles of music to keep on turning.

@KountryCuz1 6 ай бұрын

Wow Great Sounding Amp For Sure Thanks for Posting !

@freddieblue6351 Жыл бұрын

Good demonstration.

@xxgg909 Жыл бұрын

I want to this amp!

@marketingTUNEUP 10 ай бұрын

Thx for demo. Clarification. Was not clear on when you used 12W vs lowest. Are you saying even at the lowest its very loud and the lack of bottom is that all power settings and volumes? The TM Deluxe solved that issue?

@aperezdeal Жыл бұрын

It’s ok. I have a real deal 66 non reverb and I have one of these both nice just different. My daughter can turn the knobs and flip the switches on the TM to her heart’s delight, the 66…don’t touch my 66.

@holyfreak8 9 ай бұрын

Beautiful Strat! 3:53

@matheusgomes3605 Жыл бұрын

Tube amp is a kind of experience.

@fonusbak Ай бұрын

Great analogy about horses and cars. I agree that as digital gear gets better we will see more valve amps retired to studios/"safe" gigging spaces.

@texhaines9957 Жыл бұрын

I have dipped my toe in electronic guitars: a Gretsch Jet with something wrong with the low E and A pickups and Taylor T5z. The Jet was too long in transit to return. It was never play tested by Gretsch (not checked) and never opened by the shop. The box came torn almost in half, a story for another day. I picked up a Boss Katana Mini table top for practice. It does okay for the practice room and trying out features. I have a Loudbox for acoustics. Not sure where to go with the electric guitars. I have an Iris OGe with a P-90. So what might you suggest?

@jeffberg8015 Жыл бұрын

The Tone Master amps have gotten very close to tube tones while incorporating modern electronic features which as you said make them more versatile, especially for recording. For me there's still something more organic, more alive, about using a true tube amp for home play.

@cgavin1 Жыл бұрын

These sounds GREAT not gonna lie. Is it a "real Princeton"? No. Can it squish and swell and bloom like a real tube amp? Nah. But damn son, if you just need something to go straight in to front of house/PA you can't go too wrong. Mixed and post-processed it sounds no worse than any deck from the 70's or 80's (or every Foo Fighters album lol). Its great for recording too. As in accessible recording straight in to a DAW for any enthusiasts budget. No expensive mics needed. No ISO cabs. No mic bleed. No hassle. Just 1 XLR cable. If I had one of these as a kid in the 90's I would 100% have achieved more musically. As for longevity, sure, it being SMD represents a challenge to most of us old solder sniffers but the kids today know how to use an air gun meights. Don't panic Mr Mainwaring.

@hutch_hunta Жыл бұрын

Owning both i can definitely tell you the tone master has one of the best cleans tones I’ve ever heard .. it’s different than the valv Princeton .. but different doesn’t mean inferior specially not worst… of course the break up sound in the valve amp is unique but let’s be honest you ll never be able to crank your 15 watt amp at your house .. with the tone master you can

@ronlight7013 Жыл бұрын

I'd be curious to hear a comparison between the UA Dream '65 and the Tone Master Princeton. If we're going digital and we're going economical, what's the best option?

@mooseymoose Жыл бұрын

You still need power amplification with a Dream65, I had one and sold it as there was a weird digital resonance on notes that were held for a long time. Not a perfect replica as they claim, I have played loads of vintage Deluxe amps and none had the aliasing that was in the pedal. I feel like the Quilter Superblock US is great and more versatile, though the reverb is somewhat lacking. I have reverb pedals though, so not an issue for me.

@mathewworkman1625 Жыл бұрын

@@mooseymoose Agree... the Dream is weird. Fizzy or ... just... unnatural some how.

@jasonconerty2214 Жыл бұрын

Have a Princeton with a 12". Highly recommend a "12 speaker on these

@paulwatson9217 Жыл бұрын

So you’ve put a 12 in the Princeton Tone Master, what speak did you go for and was it a easy conversion?

@kenster865 Ай бұрын

I have a tube RI Princeton that I put a 12" speaker in. It DOES make a big improvement!

@ShaunZimmerman668 Жыл бұрын

If u r worried about ur tube amp failing, u need to have it serviced cause it should be very reliable! With fresh caps and tubes, a vintage amp should last another 30 years! I have had several tube amps that still have original tubes and everything in them, and they still work perfectly! If u don't use it, then often u may need to spray pots, but that happens on tube amp, transistor, and modeling amps cause it's all cause by a dirty wiper and trace!

@williamnichols6253 Жыл бұрын

There's a muddy sloppiness to the low end that sound is really good when you're playing, but I feel like I wouldn't like it when I'm playing

@michaelpidgeon6721 Жыл бұрын

I feel like that's a cranked Princeton. A cranked Deluxe is smoother.

@williamnichols6253 Жыл бұрын

@@michaelpidgeon6721 ahhh... that's helpful, thanks!

@kellymckenzie4865 Жыл бұрын

Couldn't have used a pop filter?

@dividedbytimestudios Жыл бұрын

Let’s hear this amp with an few overdrives in front,

@57ebartley Жыл бұрын

I’ve tried the tone master Deluxe reverb and really couldn’t get a good tone of it. There was the tube version right next to it. I plugged into that and right away got a great tone. There was also a blues player who used one in my old home town and I couldn’t understand why his tone master Dlx sounded so terrible. Right now I have a pro Jr. ,Blues Jr, Excelsior Dlx and a supersonic 22. Love them all. And I’ve jammed in a band with all of them. The one outlier amp that I have is a katana 100 combo. I can get a great tone out of that in a band setting which shocked me when I jammed it in a band setting about a year ago. But that tone master ? I will be nice and say ,not a fan of.

@soofitnsexy Жыл бұрын

no comparison i agree...to me they jusound fake

@jessesingersongwriter Жыл бұрын

Ditto on your take on this amp.

@GuitarMav 6 ай бұрын

Yep, I had the TM deluxe reverb and sold it for this reason. Couldn’t get good sound. More importantly it didn’t feel like a valve amp, all the sag etc. back to my valve amps. Hoping in future they make something closer to tube.

@josephpickard3108 6 ай бұрын

I tried to like it, but I don't. Maybe I'm too emotionally invested in my PRRI. Took me 15 years to get one of my own.

@GuitarMav Жыл бұрын

A real Princeton is low volume anyway so why not put the little extra it costs in and get the real deal, or get a 5 watt vibro champ, all valve, sounds like a smaller princeton.

@npcompletenate Жыл бұрын

If you live in a small apartment, even a 12 watt tube amplifier will be way too loud. Plus, the fact that you have DI out and a mute mode means you can have completely silent recording, also a godsend in many circumstances.

@yarbgreat1 Жыл бұрын

I liked the tone and reverb in the tone master, not so much the tremolo

@aperezdeal Жыл бұрын

I hope they release a firmware update to address the tremolo.

@thatduck6753 5 ай бұрын

Vintage tube amps have too many issues to keep up with, at least mine does

@jimdep6542 8 ай бұрын

Good video.........Question: Fender has the Mustang series that does digital modeling of Princtons, Deluxe's etc.........why would this amp sound more realistic than the Mustang's do......which I think does a great job.

@neilkorsgaard 26 күн бұрын

I think that, with the Tonemaster line, they have put all of the research and processing power into one type of amp sound and two effects, rather than dividing that power between 50 (or 150) separate amps and effects. Thee are professional grade. And come with the price tag.

@jimdep6542 26 күн бұрын

@@neilkorsgaard That's a valid point. I think Fender did about 14 amps with the Mustang series.......and a lot of effects . About 10 years ago, there were different KZfaq amp reviewers ( some were credible) that put had the Mustang amp simulations and the real amps side by side for comparison, asking people to guess which was the real amp. Many thought the Mustangs were, and some, like Shane from " In the Blues" on KZfaq said it was hard to tell the difference even being in the same room and playing through them. Then in just a few years, Fender starts pushing the Tone masters, with a much bigger price tag. So.....yes, I'm skeptical, especially since Fender pulled their FUSE software for the Mustangs, for no other reason then to sell new amps.

@jstrat121 Ай бұрын

Well, if the processor dies….your screwed. Buy the tube version….its reapairable.

@lonnysylte4735 9 ай бұрын

When you say, "No preamps, no nothing" you do realize 2 negatives make a positive? Therefore no nothing means you are indeed adding something and I, sir, would like to know what exactly you ARE adding so I can make an informed decision on this amp. Maybe I just clearly misunderstood you.

@JeremySheppard 9 ай бұрын

😂 It's a euphemism used to designate the simplicity of the signal path. 😉 From the DI out of this amp into a UA Apollo with no plug kns or preamps recorded into garage band. As direct a signal as possible

@gwhiz3708 Жыл бұрын

When it’s up loud it’s up loud 😂

@Ragnar-Viking 5 ай бұрын

Tune up

@GaryBlankenship-hh6lc Жыл бұрын

A solid state, 12 watt, 10” speaker amp, with no effects loop or earphone jack, should NOT cost more than $299.

@dingalarm Жыл бұрын

I agree that it's too expensive for a digital version of a single amplifier, considering that a Boss Katana 50 MK2 offers so much more for around $270. With that said, I also believe the tube version should cost way less than it does. After all, it's just a single channel amp with reverb (no effects loop or headphone jack either).

@elliotcurrie7143 Жыл бұрын

Who made that telecaster? I can't read the headstock

@JeremySheppard Жыл бұрын

It's a Rich Alan Vintage Guitar. It's magical.

@frankcarter6427 Жыл бұрын

I worry about getting these electronic wonders fixed in a few years time

@JeremySheppard Жыл бұрын

Me too.

@voxpathfinder15r Жыл бұрын

Nothing to worry about, when they blow up, you remove the guts and rewire a ptp tube amplifier into the existing chassis

@joedoe3235 Жыл бұрын

Why would you wonder about that? How different are they compared to what we had up until now? And how unfixable were those? Legit curiosity.

@dingalarm Жыл бұрын

I'd be more worried about how *expensive* tubes have now become, making it uneconomical to maintain tube amps.

@jstrat121 Ай бұрын

Buy the tube version from the get go….repairable.

@spokes28 Жыл бұрын

This would be a really good amp at $600. But at $900, no.

@Ian-qs3fz Жыл бұрын

$200 would be more reasonable and that’s still overpriced for a 12 watt solid state

@DeepFriedHallelujah Жыл бұрын

Agreed. I’ve also noticed these are listed in the “tube amp” section on retailer sites. My theory is to justify cost bc when you set it next to other solid state amps the up charge is clear. I used to buy the tube Princetons new for $900 all day long. This was not even 10 years ago. Somehow the tonemaster has justified the $500 price hike on the tube versions 🤔 Pretty sure we’re just getting taken advantage of.

@markay_ 9 ай бұрын

Can you guys recommend any alternatives worth checking out?

@spokes28 9 ай бұрын

What do think of that newer Blackstar Debut 50 watt solid state?@@markay_

@rmaxtpmx 7 ай бұрын

What we would do without such an amazingly detailed response? Thank you for explanation as to why this is or isn't with the money, and for listing better alternatives. You're a blessing to us all.

@Michael-qe6wr Жыл бұрын

The overdrive sounds kind of splatty

@tjnugent62 7 ай бұрын

It has a lot of bottom end.

@aquilarossa5191 Жыл бұрын

I think the whole Tone Master series might be pointless. The Mustang GTX series probably has much the same modelling algorithms for Blackface stuff et cetera, but also has models for Brit and high gain amps et cetera, plus more effects. The GTX is much cheaper, but I do not know if it does as good a job amplifying those models through the speakers. Maybe near enough to be a more attractive and versatile modelling amp. PS. I just play at home these days. I have amps and a Freyette Power Station for running IRs in DAW, but I hardly use that stuff. Using plugin amps in DAW does almost as good a job as a real amp. Can't blow up plugins either (I get nervous thrashing amps into reactive loads -- I have blown up a few amps over the years, including my brand new Marshall 1959RR and being offered a refund due to the damage being so bad)

@swardmusic Жыл бұрын

Wouldnt wanna be seen gigging with one tho personally 😂

@ITigerbaum Жыл бұрын

I would go for the real thing. The power scaling is nice, but a Black Amp Box-JHS would add this feature to the tube amp. $65 Sounds good. Probably feels different from the og. Thanks !

@calyptratus187 8 ай бұрын

How exactly would you do that? JHS explicitly says the black amp box only works with serial effects loop and princeton doesn't have one. Am I missing something?

@ITigerbaum 8 ай бұрын

idk buy something you like and play it.

@jasper_north Жыл бұрын

Ever listened to NOLAN TAYLOR??? He is the best ever. His song: 48!!!!

@JeremySheppard Жыл бұрын

I haven't but I'm on it now.

@markgordoncreamer7279 Жыл бұрын

I don't think he knows what a Princeton Reverb is supposed to sound like. There are some amazing videos on this amp. This isn't one of them.

@JeremySheppard Жыл бұрын

It's true.

@voxpathfinder15r Жыл бұрын

I can’t wait for when these die, so guys unload them for a song! Perfect platform for rewiring a ptp tube amplifier.

@dingalarm Жыл бұрын

..but judging by your username, I thought you were a solid-state fan 🤔🙄🤭

@voxpathfinder15r Жыл бұрын

@@dingalarm I love a great solid state amplifier. True solid state is still analog and not bs digital algorithm on a dsp chip. The only DSP I am cool with is the occasional reverb pedal.

@dingalarm Жыл бұрын

@@voxpathfinder15r No worries 🙂👍👌 The great irony is that analog solid-state amps are now praised, but back in the day, they were universally despised as being cold, harsh & sterile. Even though I have a tube amp (and plan to build a few more 😋), I've always had an open mind towards solid-state amps, despite the fact that my first amp was a DIY solid-state that only had a dull clean tone. I believe it all comes down to how well a circuit is designed (tube or solid-state) and whether or not decent speakers are used.

@voxpathfinder15r Жыл бұрын

@@dingalarm the bad rap with solid state back in the had to do with product placement, you make a really great solid state and vacuum tube amplifier sales will suffer. So it became the default technology to use making lower tier amplifiers.

@dingalarm Жыл бұрын

@@voxpathfinder15r Yes, it's also a pity that many solid-state amps were deliberately crippled (e.g. with small crappy speakers) so as not to compete with tube amps. These days, I think the rising cost of tubes, and the future uncertainty of tube manufacturing have contributed to the shift towards solid-state amps, not to mention seriously great amps being produced by Roland, Orange, Quilter etc.

@sedoyotec Жыл бұрын

This amp sounds like a pedal.

@johnwashburn3793 Жыл бұрын

Save a horse, ride a Fender!

@djross2043 Жыл бұрын

Kinda harsh Jeremy. I feel the difference btwn the tube and TM are marginal. For a player with my Lumbar fused, cervical fused, and spinal cord stimulator I feel the sacrifice is not that much. Under 20 lbs is perfect. You speak as a young man with utmost authority thinking your opinion is the only one that matters but there are many takes on the TM Princeton. Go read some.

@frankbyrne4306 8 ай бұрын

My LTS40 sounds better

@johncrace911 Жыл бұрын

I don't understand the price point and the laziness of a guitar player that can't carry a real Princeton or a Deluxe for that matter. I do understand not wanting to carry a Twin. Seriously guys what's up with yall

@pugforce8315 Жыл бұрын

For me, i can’t afford a nice amp like a prri and a decent modeler, i need an amp and modeler for different occasions, this seems like a good compromise.

@Candyskullguitars Жыл бұрын

When Princetons come with built in attenuators and cab sim line outs, I’ll agree with you.

@FLdb-wj4wc Жыл бұрын

I have a real deluxe and the blonde tone master deluxe. I like the tone master better. It sounds and feels just as good if not better. It's light and doesn't care what power you give it. It's really really good. I have a bunch of tube amps. I have a brand new Dr z Maz 18 and I actually prefer the tone master.

@hargoniyamaki5168 Жыл бұрын

Maybe when you have a damaged leg on one side and sciatica on the other, a light will come on in your head.

@johnkonstanty2274 Жыл бұрын

Wait till you are in your 70s. The attenuator works as a master Volume.

@EdBenji Жыл бұрын

If it hasn't got valves in it, its just crap!

@frankcarter6427 Жыл бұрын

I disagree Ed, I'm an old git now, but if I was looking for another amp, I'd be looking at modelling, a friend has one that does a good imitation of a whole range of amps and costs (and weighs) very little - the only issue I have with them is fixability when they break down

@EdBenji Жыл бұрын

@@UncleChillGuitar 47 years & tin ears!