What advice do YOU have for potential converts?

As son, grandson, nephew and cousin of sincere, commited and faithful Baptist Pastors, I came across the teaching of the Church Fathers. As I read them my convictions began to change. My Baptist wife would start crying and become disturbed as I shared my thoughts with her. She wanted us to remain Baptist. I started praying to God and asked for the intercession of all Saints, beginning with Saint Mary. Last October my wife and I were oficially received in the Catholic Church. Now we are both moved and cry as we take part in the Eucharist...

I was raised Protestant, then lost my faith in college. Decades of atheism later, I finally discovered the Catholic faith. In Catholicism I found the deep theological teachings, history, culture, and beauty that was so lacking in Protestantism. I hope cradle Catholics appreciate what a treasure Christ left them with the Church.

Me "God, lead me closer to you at any cost." God "Have you thought about becoming Catholic?" Me: "Is there something else?" .... three months later I went to a Saturday vigil Mass. I went to a Sunday evangelical service the next morning. Since then I've gone only to Catholic Mass and came into full communion with the Church in 2015. No regrets. No doubts.

I grew up in evangelical Christianity. I researched as an adult, and started to ask these same questions... who put the books together? Were all Christians before 1517 in hell? I was baptized December 8 2010

I'm in the process of converting. I can't wait to take part in the eucharist on Easter Sunday this year.

It is ironic that Mr. Ortlund’s first piece of advice for Protestants considering joining the Catholic Church is that the grass isn’t greener on the other side. Wasn’t the whole underlying premise of Protestantism, that the grass would be greener?

Excellent video! After decades of trying everything out there it's amazing how Catholicism is the last thing we expect to be truly authorized by God. I'm nearly 70 and in the OCIA! I'm just grateful the Lord is giving this old fool the chance. Bless you!

Thank you, your talk has convinced me to join the one true Church. Becoming Catholic this Easter,Praise Jesus.

My journey back to official Catholicism took almost 9 and a half years. And you're absolutely right; it can and often is painful.

Absolutely I would convert to Roman Catholicism right away

The big lure of the Protest is you can be your own pope, its a chaotic eisegetical circus, hence even per Luther, there will be as many beliefs & doctrines as heads. There is no end & easy to be heterodox w/out knowing it. I enjoyed the fellowship in Protestant churches but had to come home to the holy apostolic catholic church as the Protest doctrines didnt hold up to historical Christendom

Wonderful analysis of Dr Ortlund's statements. Thank you for this effort!

.. A very protentant's way of thinking.. So true! Thanks for this sharp video.

Great video. Very good points. “Take a dive into theology”… so true. That’s such a Protestant way of thinking. Do I take a “deep dive” into neuroanatomy and physiology before I decide to trust a neurosurgeon? Certainly, studying theology is never wrong, but to infer that every person must be their own private theologian to rightly determine which texts are reliable is ridiculous. This is where the Protestant framework takes you. Because there is no “one true church” in their world everyone is welcome to open the scriptures and play armchair theologian and start their own denomination if it suits them. We have to wonder, is that really what Jesus wanted when He said He would establish His church?

Excellent again! Love your content, the approach and style. And best of all: Short and concise. Thank you! God will bless you more and more! So happy for you!

You cut at the heart of the issues, great response! Look forward to more videos.

Well done, Doug! Thanks for sharing this with us.

I love the smells and bells

"Choosy Christians choose Catholicism." Catholicism. The leading brand of Christianity. Catholicism--the Coke of Christianity: "It's the Real Thing."

Enjoying your videos. Well done.

On point and excellent observations! New subs here. God bless

Great video and great response. Watching from South Africa.

Excellent points. Very logical arguments. I am in the process of crossing the Rubicon. I don’t know whether it will happen this year or next year, but I will definitely be converting.

Inspiring. Balanced, sharp and informative.

Outstanding video! Very objective analysis. I’m new to your channel, and I enjoy your content.

Good video. Right to the points, I like that.

Good video. I remember people at evangelical churches referencing the early Church and how they strove to hold their beliefs, yet they never referred to anything other than the Bible with the assumption that it is perspicuous and identical to their novel beliefs.

Thank you, Mr. Beaumont, for your strongly reasoned response.

“Where there is Christ Jesus, there is the Catholic Church” - Saint Ignatius of Antioch

I didn't become a traditional Catholic due to anything other than objective truth. I read the Early Church and found that traditional Roman Catholicism ALONE matched what they taught and believed. Only TRUTH sets us free...for Truth is a Person, Jesus Christ. Read the Apostolic Fathers especially St. Ignatius of Antioch. Also read St. Irenaneus of Lyon's "Against Heresies circa 180AD. It's all there i.e. the eucharist as the actual Body and Blood of Christ, Bishops, priests, the papacy etc. It's on the ONLY reason I am Catholic and not another sect. God bless~

Superb video. God bless tou❤

Great vid!

Excellent!

Nice work

I don’t know who that dude is, but your observations and advice are clear as usual. 🍻

Implicit in his statement is that the liturgy doesn't matter. People have mentioned this before to him how the, at least nominal, evangelical anti-materiality is built into what he's saying, he assumes there are no particular physical communications of grace, which taken to the extreme means he doesn't even believe in aesthetics, but he doesn't seen to get it. He's stuck in the "it's just obvious" mode instead of seeing it is a particular theological belief

Awesome

Love your analysis, but just want add that the best way to study the faith is to study the liturgy as the old saying lex orandi, lex credendi. Gbu

Dr Ortlund is a very charitable Protestant. One point that I wanted to make is that Gavin holds the bread and wine do become the body and blood of Christ but in a Calvinistic/spiritual sense but no less an application of one's communion with the real flesh and blood of Christ

I find Gavin to be the most charitable in his work to clarify and discuss. I may be most inspired-in fact-by his approach when it comes to the opportunity for theologians all around to follow Christ's directive to minister reconciliation. An example here that doesn't accomplish this is a statement like, "sitting around a living room and calling it 'church.'" That's what the very first churches were. Protestants aren't violating a form or essence of what is church via being in living rooms. They are violating Catholic authority. Getting underneath the correct thing, diagnosing the proper issue, is meaningful where correction is called for.

Theology is everything. It's the reason I converted to Catholicism. It certainly wasn't 'romanticism' as I lost all my family and most of my friends.

Protestantism is destroying Christianity. Thank You Jesus for Your One and Only Holy Catholic Church that provides us the One and Only New Covenant between God and Man. Luke 22:20 John 6:53

Hi Douglas, I am a convert to the Catholic Church (for over 20 yrs). I grew up heavily influenced by the teaching of D. L. Moody and the Moody Bible Institute (based in Chicago). One question that has always perplexed me since my conversion, and still does today... Why, given the vast amount of information, available, the early Church Fathers, and other resources, haven't protestant scholars, and theologians "flocked" to the Catholic Church, as the true Church that Jesus established?

It is interesting that in the early church we see no mention of converting from one church group to another. Conversion was always used in the context of being translated out of the kingdom of darkness into the kingdom of His marvelous light. The early church understood what Jesus had said to His apostles concerning sectarianism and the forbidding of it

Around minute 10:59 What is being discussed is not to judge a 'church' by individuals. However, the clear teaching of the Catholic church is the overwhelming authority the Pope has, or cardinals have or bishops have or priest have that most Catholics are fearful to disagree with each one on each level. Has a pope been incorrect in his teaching of 'truth'? My point is that it is not a simple thing to 'choose' a church based upon its history.

In Goa, there are two Catholic Churches on the same square, one is Franciscan and the other is of a different Catholic tradition. KZfaq shows significant differences within Catholicism.

Yes we should convert to Catholicism. The One True Catholic and Apostolic Faith handed down by Jesus Christ through the holy Apostles and their successors. The Faith that the forefathers of us all had(for some until the time they became heretics or schismatics. For me they became calvinists) Extra Ecclesiam Nulla Salus. If you ask the Holy Ghost to guide you and do a serious study or research to the early church and church/apostolic fathers you will see that protestantism in almost completely different from the practices and beliefs of the early church and Catholicism the same. God Bless! Laudetur Jesus Christus in Aeternam! Ave Maria!

I would ask potential converts to show me specifically where Holy Scripture teaches faith alone and Scripture alone? If they can't provide the exact verses, I would tell them that should be sufficient enough to leave Protestantism! Indeed, even if one has ALL FAITH, but does not LOVE, IT IS USELESS, as Holy Scripture teaches we must cooperate with God's saving grace and repent and bear fruit and forgive others and love one another and persevere to the end! Holy Scripture teaches the manifold wisdom of God is revealed through the CHURCH! The same Church authority that existed way before the new testament was ever written! Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is true food and Blood true drink

I have been drawn to the catholic church for 4 years now , I've been a practicing anglican for 20 years ,the desire to become a catholic just got stronger and stronger so I know this is where I'm supposed to be ,but boy do you people make it hard ,I'm currently on rcia ,talk about preaching to the converted 😢, I understand I believe . This isn't a whim just let me in ,but no I have to sit through these long laborious classes till at least next Easter learning absolutely nothing that I don't already know ,when all the while being deprived of the Lords supper,I really don't understand why it takes so long , don't you want people to convert?

My family did a 30 years ago never regretted it until Francis so now a terrible traditional

Yes, please convert! You won’t regret it I promise. We cradle Catholics will welcome you with joy and thanksgiving.

6:20 You take this on faith because your denomination says so.

Around minute 6:27: bread and wine is mentioned. If this is a command to be followed and prescribed by Jesus in John 6, then why is it the priest only that gets to take both the bread AND the wine? At least in most 'protestant' churches both are used for EVERYONE.

Dr. Gavin may be closer than he/we think.

Honestly, I've been following this debate for a while now in my Christian walk, and to his has all left me quite jaded towards the church. I don't know how to feel, with my love for God and desire to follow him, that God will send me to hell anyway because I didn't know which church to pick.

Nothing to do with "problems "...it's about finding the truth.

I am a Catholic (a recent "reconvert"), but I have to disagree with you about all Protestants (and Anglicans) thinking nothing happens or it's "just a symbol" regarding communion. Many if not most Anglicans/Episcopalians believe there is anywhere from a spiritual presence, all the way up to transubstantiation, but without calling it that. Lutheranism, likewise, also teaches sacramental union (often times called consubstantiation by those outside of it). There are quite a few Methodists who also believe in a spiritual or even consubstantial presence of Christ and his body and blood in the communion celebration and elements.

Question… why did Catholics stop sharing the blood of Jesus with the laity?

11:20 You are begging the question by saying Augustine was a papist, unless you can show he taught papal infallibility.

I was reading a book titled The Jewish Revolutionary Spirit, Volume 1, and learned some Protestant pre-history, the Hussite rebellion one hundred years before Martin Luther’s rebellion. The Hussites went wild morally, engaging in violence and sexual license. I then came across Dr. Ortland’s video lauding Jan Huss, and it appeared that he didn’t know that the rebellion was immoral and divisive, and that demonic agitators facilitated the soon to be permanent split in Christianity. It just didn’t dawn on him. Cheerleading for division and weakening the main bulwark against demonic forces. Ask Germans how the Reformation worked for them today. In fact, ask all of western civilization how Huss and Luther’s behavior opened the door to modernist forces bent on destroying civilization today. No, he didn’t catch any of that.

Around minute 8:31 Douglas, if God were to ask me why I hold to a particular doctrine that is incorrect, do you think He will accept, "because my pastor clearly taught it as truth"? Of course not and I doubt that He'll accept that excuse for Catholics as well. Do you? If you disagree, my guess is you'll say that it is impossible for the Catholic Church to be incorrect based on God not letting it, but then I'd remind you that the Catholic Church's first Pope was wrong and Paul instructed him in what he was wrong about (see Galatians).

I respect the Roman Catholic and Orthodox traditions and communities. However, as a Protestant I am catholic, with a small c. I recited the apostles Creed in the churches I grew up in that acknowledged that there was only one holy, catholic and apostolic church. That church was established by Christ as an invisible reality with tangible representations. All who genuinely profess the name of Christ are a part of it. Besides, the Orthodox communities are as old, if not older than the Roman Catholic Church. If, we are use apostolic connection as the criteria of the "true church" doesn't orthodox Christianity qualify as much as the Catholic version? Let us acknowledge our common catholic heritage and stop this hurtful disparagement of each other. The differences matter, but so does the common confession.

Jesus had stated to enter the gate that is narrow

The Miracle of Fatima 1917 in front of 70k people was prophesized by three Catholic children. There were also the Miracles of Lourdes and Guadalupe and so many more. Miracles go with the Catholic Church, no one can deny that. God always proves his chosen ones by miracles (Exodus 4:2-3 and Numbers 17:8). It has not ended, miracles, visions of angels, Holy Mary, Jesus Christ, Holy Spirit and the light of God the Father still manifests today. Albeit in silence, the Body of Christ still moves the world. God's will be done!

6:39 _"by their own admission"_ Not strictly true for Lutherans, Anglicans and perhaps some others (including, improbably but apparently, some in the Pentecostal world). The real distinction is Sacrifice of the Mass. Armenians presently deny Real Presence - but ar still counted as having valid Masses and priesthood, because they do not deny the Sacrifice of the Mass. When Lefebvrists (SSPX and associated) and a few others are saying "Novus Ordo is Protestantism" - they aren't accusing you of not believing the Real Presence, but of not consistently believing the Sacrifice of the Mass.

Just prior to minute 4:20 - Douglas, your point seemed to be something like 'there's so many different protestants yet one Catholic church', therefore the Catholic Church must be correct or at least gives reason to look closer at becoming Catholic. I'd disagree on the grounds that while most Catholic churches look like all the others and have but one name, that does not really tell all the facts. I dare say that many, or maybe even most, priests don't accept ALL the exact Catholic teachings. Then there's the church 'doctrines' that have changed over the years. One minor but glaring change is not being able to eat meat on Friday's because it is a sin to do so. Did God change His mind about this or was it a man made doctrine that the was changed due to pressure from church goers?

“…to identify the church that Jesus Christ started... …historically identified Gods authority.” Unless you mean, “just take their word for it,” this still relies on the individuals own best judgement, doesn’t it? How do I know that the modern RC church is the same church that Jesus started? I still have to do the historical research and make my own best judgement.

Don't a lot of the liturgical Protestant traditions believe in Real Presence?

so which one is correct There are almost as many sects and beliefs as there are heads; this one will not admit Baptism; that one rejects the Sacrament of the altar; another places another world between the present one and the day of judgment; some teach that Jesus Christ is not God. There is not an individual, however clownish he may be, who does not claim to be inspired by the Holy Ghost, and who does not put forth as prophecies his ravings and dreams. they are purveyors of ‘self-centered worship.' You may get people to come to those churches, and you may have church growth. But you will not have church impact. The reason is that church becomes increasingly like the culture. People go in, see a skit, listen to some music, hear a soothing sermon, and think they have done their Christian duty. They are entering the exact precarious position the mainline found itself in the '60s and '70s." if salvation is by "faith only" it excludes even faith gained by reading the Bible. The First International Anglican Episcopal Lutheran Presbyterian Reformed Methodist Baptist Seventh Day Adventist Pentecostal Nazarene Unitarian Gospel Non Denominational Church and Assembly of God Christ Science Scientist of Latter Day Saints Jehovah Witness Evangelical Christian Restoration Calvary Bible Apostolic Progressive Faith Holiness Universalist Discipleship Congregational Covenant Independent United Communion Fellowship Conference Convention Association and Community Of The Lord. American Baptists, Southern Baptists, Christian Unity Baptists, Primitive Baptists, Duck River & Kindred Associations of Baptists, Baptist Church of Christ, Freewill Baptists, General Baptists, General Six-Principle Baptists, Independent Baptist Church of America, National Baptist, Evangelical Life & Soul Saving Assembly of the U.S.A., Regular Baptists, Separate Baptists, Seventh Day Baptists, Two Seed in the Spirit Predestinarian Baptists, United American Freewill Baptists, United Baptists, Free Communion Baptists, Anti-mission Baptists, Conservative Baptists, Fundamental Baptists, I thought that John Calvin strictly taught from the Bible. Mmmm, why, then, are there 25 different Calvinist denominations in the USA/Canada? They do not worship together on the Lord's Day. 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Reformed Congregations in North America Reformed Church in the United States (German Reformed) The majority of the original Reformed Church in the United States, which was founded in 1725, merged with Evangelical Synod of North America (a mix of German Reformed & Lutheran theologies) to form the Evangelical and Reformed Church in 1940 (which would merge with the Congregational Christian Churches in 1957 to form the United Church of Christ) leaving the Eureka Classis serving as a Continuing church of the Reformed Church in the United States until 1986, when it was dissolved to form the Synod of the Reformed Church in the United States Reformed Church in America The Reformed Church in America (RCA) is the oldest Dutch Reformed denomination in the United States, dating back from the mid-17th century Reformed Church of Quebec United Reformed Churches in North America (Dutch Reformed - GKN) Congregational Communion of Reformed Evangelical Churches Puritan Reformed Church Newfrontiers in the United States Sovereign Grace Churches (Credobaptist, charismatic) I thought that Martin Luther was the unifying force in the Protestant Church. Why, then, are there 26 different groups of Lutherans in the USA who DO NOT worship together on the Lord's Day. Is not the Bible their sole authority? Then why is the Bible so contradictory? 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"Every church teaches the Word, they just don't teach the same thing about the Word." Yes, and this is also true of Roman Catholicism. Firstly, the Catholic church is divided. It has different sects like the SSPX and sedevecantists that disagree over essential elements of Catholic teaching and practice, and beyond that individual clergy and churches have their own teachings and beliefs, like LGBT affirming bishops. That Catholic teaching is also, obviously, different from the teaching of the Orthodox churches, never mind the Protestants. Both groups -left- Rome because they objected so strongly to its teachings. So why would I choose your Roman church? The best standard I have for choosing a church is its faithfulness to the teachings of Jesus, and yet Rome mocks the idea of holding the Bible - the Word of God - as the ultimate authority.

Why should Gavin care if a Protestant becomes Catholic, if OSAS means the new Catholic is still saved?

Protestant pastors, preaching on radio and television, always tell audience to say the sinners prayer and then find a "Bible based church" what is this church?All christian churches are Bible based

Proverbs 9:1-6. The Wisdom of God¹, His House², and The Seven (7) Pillars³. ¹Our Lord Jesus. ² The Universal⁴ Church. ³ The 7 Holy Sacraments of His Church. Channels of God's Grace. ⁴ Uni + Verse = One Word⁵. ⁵ John 1:1-4

I liked this video because it dealt with realities of Christian discovery. I am a former Catholic with over forty years of Biblical studies and I have graduated from a Christian university and I attended a Baptist Seminary. I am not a Baptist. I have always been a Christian and I had an encounter with Christ Himself in a dream at a very young age. In that dream, Christ told me-age 13-that He was “But a worm.” This message perplexed me. At the time I was a Catholic. At the time, I was not aware that the message in the dream was from Psalm 22:6. Just a few years ago, I had an epiphany when I read about the worm-The Crimson Worm (scientific name: coccus ilicis or kermes ilicis). For me, I had left formal church attendance for years until one day my house was struck by lightning. It damaged me house alarm system. The Good Lord sent me a repairman who was a Messianic Jew. From that day forward, I delved deeper into Biblical studies, linguistics, archeology and theology. Fir me, my foray into Messianic Judaism did more to strengthen my Christian conviction and beliefs than any thing else. As a result, I participated in two Presbyterian living Nativities. I went to Haiti on mission thrice with the Baptists to visit a sister church, I went twice to visit an orphanage in the Dominican Republic with the Methodists. We support a mission in Burkina Faso. My dear friend and missionary was shot and killed there by Al-Queda terrorists, but the mission continues to this day. I never knew a martyr before-Now I do. The Church Triumphant is much bigger than any denomination. My understanding of Scripture is acutely sharper these days. Christ Jesus came to fulfill the Law not to destroy it. To this end, the Eight Holy Appointed Times (Moedim) enumerated in Leviticus layout a time table and sequence that no king, no pope, and no scholar can distort or erase or undo. Leviticus 23:2 plainly teaches that these ARE God’s Holy Appointed times. These occur in the Spring the Fall. Christ lived out the Spring Holy Appointed Times (Moedim) EXACTLY: He was inspected and selected on the 10th of Nisan, we call that Palm Sunday. He was crucified on a Wednesday. He was in the tomb during Unleavened Bread. He rose from the dead three days later, in fulfillment of the Scriptures on Sunday. We call that Easter. Fro-Saturday-Sunday does not meet what Jesus himself said of his own resurrection: “For as Jonah was Three Days and Three Nights (72 hours!) in the belly of a great fish, so too shall the Son of man be in the earth.” [Friday to Sunday is insufficient in the requisite hours Our Lord said He Himself would fulfill! Seven Sabbaths bater, on the very next day-the 50th Day-the Church was born in the Upper Room. Jesus gave us His Church and He gave us the Holy Spirit to experience personally for EACH believer. So if Jesus the Christ (Yeshua HaMashiach) lived out the Spring Holy Appointed Days of Leviticus 23, it logically follows that He will do likewise in the fulfillment of the Fall Holy Appointed Times (Moedim). But the Catholic Church is blind to this reality. Why? If they are Christ True Church, why have they confused the teachings clearly understood by Paul, John, and ALL the rest of the Apostles? Will Jesus rule for exactly 1,000 years from Jerusalem fulfilling the Millennial Sabbath rest after 6,000 years of man working the soil with his labor by the sweat of his brow? How you answer this question will leave you either firmly in the Protestant camp or (Messianic Camp) or the Catholic/Orthodox Camp. At Judgement day-Goats to the left, Sheep to the right. Which one are you, a goat or a sheep? The Good Shepherd, the searcher of hearts, already knows. MARANA THA!

Gavin is the Pope of Ortlundism - and he’s infallible!

I have watched endless debates of this nature and my advise is stick to what was declared by the Apostles themselves and the Lord. In the gospel of John, we read, "He who has the son has life". In Acts 4:12, we read, "There is no name given under heaven through whom we can saved, Jesus is the only name" this was Peter's declaration and elsewhere Paul writes, "I desired to know nothing else among you, except, Christ and Him crucified". If you come across any group of people putting an emphasis on other things other than these ancient truths delivered by the apostles, run and save yourself. Better be on the narrow road than just march with billions on the path that leads to destruction.

At 3:44 the point of why I disagree with the RCC is made. To the RCC they are correct because they are the ones in authority and have the power. Not because what the Bible says. But they are more like a parent who has the child who doesn't know anything and must be told to do what they are told. Not told to read this scripture and study the Bible. But they tell you so. Now in some Protestant churches you get that same view. But I was an agnostic. I demanded proof of what they were telling me. I found most so called Christians depended on what someone told them or on fear. Not on research and study. I did not and will not accept because you or any other authority say so. Which is why I read books saying the Bible is false and full of errors. Which I accepted for years. Till I decided to read the other side that points to truths and proofs of the Bible. It was my pursuit of the truth. I found the RCC to be a body that is only using their authority not the actual words of the Bible for their teaching. I was an agnostic when I helped my niece become a Roman Catholic in studying the Catechism. So I actually read the Baltimore Catechism as and agnostic. My family was RCC. But not very good catholics. My reading of actual history latter on. Lead me to stay a agnostic for years. I say the real history. Not the made up one. Based on I said so. Not actual proof. I also meet Protestants who used the same method. They were right because they said so. I would point out problems with the Bible and they terrible person god was in that he loved to torture people for all eternity. That is not loving or even being a good anything. I tell people to join the SDA church. Yes but when I read what it says. I knew to not follow them. Not where they demand they are right. Because they say so. Which is what many of both sides did. I wanted proof not me being treated as a child who could not know anything and must be told what to believe. By the way it took over a year for me to decide to be a Christian. Today I am a Christian a follower of Jesus Christ and a member of the Seventh day Adventist church. Many of my church family were RCC. They studied their way into the Church from the Bible. Not from being told so. God is love.

Pray and ask God where he wants you to be. Be patient.

I do appreciate that it is almost impossible to speak of “Protestantism” as such, since doing so means making broad statements that would hold true equally of a non-denominational church and a Lutheran church as well. What Dr Beaumont seems to do is to reduce all “Protestantism” to something like a Southern Baptist or non-denominational church and then criticize that as if it were representative of “Protestantism” as such. I also appreciate that it is hard to get into the nuances and distinctions that this topic requires in just a 15 or 20 minute video. But my problem is that (as a Protestant) I don’t see that Dr Beaumont’s descriptions of Protestantism actually represent what I believe. I do believe that God gives grace in the sacrament of baptism (even to infants); I do believe that we truly receive the body and Blood of Christ in the sacrament of holy communion; I do believe in the importance of bishops and hierarchy; i do believe (following St Vincent of Lerins) that the church as a whole is the proper interpreter of Scripture and definer of orthodoxy; I do believe in holding the Blessed Virgin Mary in high honor; classical Protestants (unlike American evangelicals) believed in all of these things. John Wesley believed these things; John Jewel believed these things; Thomas Oden and CS Lewis and Lancelot Andrewes and many many others believed these things. So it seems like many, maybe all, of the reasons stated to not be Protestant do not actually apply to classical Protestantism.

Hello. I was listening to your videos, but there are many errors. You’re misinterpreting what Protestants believe about the Eucharist. Is that necessary or you just don’t know about this? There is a lot of misinformation about this. Especially as a Lutheran.

If Sola Scriptura were true, you wouldn't need extra-biblical text. It should be clear and apparent what you're reading and it should match a "good Biblical" church and your understanding should be clear. But it isn't true and now you have you study the opinions of others and evolve in your knowledge and what you're taking away from scripture.

The reason Protestantism is right bcz they wanna be the pope of their own. But claims interpretation is from the Holy Spirit but contradicts one another.

8:52 the RCC is just one of many churches that can be picked due to studying the word and history, even prots believe that their church was ultimately started by Jesus.

I will remain a Protestant till the end of my life. I am not against any conversions but don't mislead or mis interpret people's in a wrong way. If God is against Protestant we'll never ever recieved the Holy Spirit like in the time Pentakost.

Dr. Ortlund has a bad habit of leaving out the complete writings of the Church Fathers! I asked Dr. Ortlund over a dozen times, "Can one know with infallible certitude what Jesus Christ meant by "This IS MY BODY ", ( Matthew 26:26). Dr. Ortlund conveniently never answered! Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is true food and Blood true drink

Yes, there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church, the bulwark of truth! The Catholic Church is the only church founded by Christ. It is the arc of Peter, the way to salvation. If you choose to be outside the Holy Catholic Church, it's like being off a ship, in the middle of the ocean, with sharks all around! You must be on the arc of Peter, receiving sanctifying grace through sacraments! Again, there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church. That is why there are so many martyrs in the church. They willing gave their lives to preach, baptism, and make Catholic disciplines. There is no compromise! Protestanism is from the devil, the father of lies and heresies. I don't care what the spirit of Vatacin 2 states. This view is Church Dogma and doctrine. I don't apologize. Catholic apologists need to speak the unpopular truth and be willing to be persecuted for Christ!

Converting to the heresy/cult of Roman Catholicism. There is a reason why the video is titled converting to catholicism and not Christianity. RC's first loyalty is to the pope, not Christ.

Is sad but it is true, Gavin Ortlund is a master of half truths, he’s very disingenuous.

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Respectfully I want to say that. Its wrong to assume that every church which is not catholic is protestant. Calling every other church a protestant church is a categorization losely followed without any logical reasoning. Its just a belief held by catholics that early christian Chruch established during the time of disciple was catholic church without any significant evidence or any mention in the bible. Nowhere in the bible it is mentioned that christs church was called catholic church or universal church is mentioned. The history teahes that Roman Catholic church was also established later during the time of constantine. The ingress of roman traditions later caused many to protest and break away and caused to be categorized as so called protestant. Kindly understand that every other church having their own interpretation doesnt come under the umbrella of protestant. Therefore claiming Roman Catholic doesnt have any division is not a valid argument and people categorizing all the other churches or themselves as protestant is not logical. Roman Catholic is also just one among the many with their own interpretation and theology just like othodox, baptists, calvinists, pentecostal etc. ThereforeWe should humble ourselves and ask the holyspirit to guide us in the truth according to the scripture, to reject what is false and also to help us to follow the path shown by our Lord and Saviour Christ Jesus also submitting ourselves to be used for the Glory of God and his kingdom.

There are divisions in the catholic world. Just look at the polls. Just talk to different catholics and you will find all kinds of differences. For unity I would go with the JW's.

The implications of little or no division within Roman Catholicism (1) isn't true and (2) is an apples and oranges comparison. There is a LOT of division in Roman Catholicism, and it is historically part of -- and arguably the cause of -- the greatest schism(s) in Christian history. Further, Roman Catholicism is not the only group that believes in the Real Presence. Many choices there. Finally the pretense that Roman Catholicism is "the" church that Jesus founded is just false. Even the Roman Catholic Church doesn't teach that falsehood any more.

If you believe everything that the Church teaches then it's your obligation to come into the church. If you don't then no.