Lazy Pilot and Other Egyptian MiG-19 Stories (Part 2)

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Жыл бұрын

After the shocking first day of Israeli attacks in June 1967, Egyptian MiG-19 pilots did their best to survive and inflict losses to the enemy. Were they successful? Check out in this video.
Check out Patrick Cloutier's book - Mussolini's War in the East
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- David Nicolle and Tom Cooper - Arab MiG-19 & MiG-21 Units in Combat
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- David Nicolle and Tom Cooper - MiGs in the Middle East: Volume 2 - Soviet-designed Combat Aircraft in Egypt and Syria 1963-1967
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- Ran Ronen - Eagle in the Sky
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- Shlomo Aloni - Israeli Mirage and Nesher Aces
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@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Certain details in this video are not 100% historic. Egyptian MiG-19s were S models while here we use the radar equipped P version. The Sinai map used here is a modern map and certain locations and airbases looked differently in the 1960s. Hurghada airbase is not modeled so another one was used instead of it. C-2 Greyhounds represent Israeli Noratlases. These are not mistakes but platform limitations and there's no need to comment on it. One thing however is wrong. MiG-19 didn't carry any air-to-air missiles during the Six Day War. This information became obvious after all the scenes were done and there was no time for a re-shoot. Thank you for your understanding!

@sheepbakovich9886 Жыл бұрын

why do the migs have the Syrian flag on them at 3:13?

@hmmjedi Жыл бұрын

@@sheepbakovich9886 The roundel is the same for the United Arab Republic Air Force which was in being from 1958 to 1961... the Mig-19 was used towards the end of the brief time that the UAR exsisted...

@sheepbakovich9886 Жыл бұрын

@@hmmjedi but the six days war happened in 1967 . a full 5 years after the dissolution of the arab union.

@hmmjedi Жыл бұрын

@@sheepbakovich9886 very true though it could have also just been a misclick on the camo scheme...

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

@@sheepbakovich9886 Egypt still officially called itself 'The United Arab Republic' until 1971. That's probably the reason.

@hmmjedi Жыл бұрын

Most of the Shenyang F6's aka the Chinese Mig-19 where transferred over to the Iraqi Air Force during the Iran Iraq War and used as ground attack aircraft... Most intelligence points towards Egypt buying the jets for Iraqi use only and that the ones left in Egypt where used to train the Iraqi pilots on the jet. Great video on one of the lesser known Migs...

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much for the feedback and for contributing interesting, relevant details!

@antimimoniakos Жыл бұрын

In 70's Hellenic Air Force had Noratlas. When i served there was one in Air base museum.

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@petros311 6 ай бұрын

@@showtime112 The hellenic Air Force used the Noratlas to sent commandos to cyprus in 1974, during the turkish invasion. they named operation NIKE (victory) interesting mission with lots of ups and downs!

@user-ro1gx7gb2e 3 ай бұрын

You mean the Greece 🇬🇷 air force 2as in Egypt 🇪🇬

@petros311 3 ай бұрын

@@user-ro1gx7gb2e yes hellenic airforce its the greek airforce, in 1974 they send noratlas during the turkish invasion of cyprus. i dont know what you mean by "2as in Egypt"

@user-ro1gx7gb2e 3 ай бұрын

@petros311 YES SIR . I MEAN WAS THERE HELENIC AIR FORCE STUFF IN EGYPT 🇪🇬 IN 1973 .. AND WHY

@BorisZech Жыл бұрын

You seem to have a bad cold. Get well soon!

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

It's some kind of a virus, it's getting better, thanks!

@jean-robertlombard1416 Жыл бұрын

Bonjour de France. Toujours un plaisir de regarder vos vidéos instructives.

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot for the feedback!

@StreetBobber Жыл бұрын

Great choice of content and excellent presentation. Wish you a quick recovery from whatever's got your throat by the neck.

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment! There's a chance I might sound like that in the next couple of videos 😁

@someguy872 Жыл бұрын

Very interesting that the Mig 19 was withdrawn and the pilots transferred to the Mig 17. Also glad a video on the Mig 19 is released! a really uncommon jet to hear about

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Yes, MiG-19 is like a neglected middle child between two much more famous brothers :) Thanks for the feedback!

@davidfortezadelrey3181 Жыл бұрын

Get well soon! You seem to have caught a bad cold/ flu! Excellent and compelling content as usual. There is way more than dogfights in the history of military aviation.

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Thanks! I'm getting better but there's a chance the next video will sound like this too :)

@davidfortezadelrey3181 Жыл бұрын

@@showtime112 appreciate the effort man!!!!

@DiaconescuAlexandru2024 Жыл бұрын

I knew something was off with his voice, it sounded robotic for some reason 😂

@juancarlosperezcortes9259 Жыл бұрын

Very interesting video. Your work is valuable for every history lover

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

I'm glad you appreciate it, thank you!

@offshorequest Жыл бұрын

Thanks for getting Part 2 out so quickly !

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for watching it so quickly :)

@franps6205 Жыл бұрын

Muito bom, teus documentários não ficam só mostrando um lado. Maioria só ficam mostrando os sucessos israelenses e norte americanos, ninguém aguenta mais. Desde os videos dos conflitos aéreos na áfrica vi que teu canal era diferenciado. Obrigado do Brasil !

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Thanks, I appreciate the feedback! Fact is that sources about Americans and Israelis are the easiest to find and they are quite detailed.

@franps6205 Жыл бұрын

@@showtime112 Verdade, por isto teu canal é muito bacana e fascinante. Agradeço tua atenção.

@antimimoniakos Жыл бұрын

Showtime 112 is great channel. For example i realised by his video the incident in Cyprus in 1974 where Turks bombed and sank one of their own ships.

@franps6205 Жыл бұрын

@@antimimoniakos Sim, casos que só este canal mostra. Em cada episódio somos sempre surpreendidos.

@angrypandaification Жыл бұрын

Awesome, great video as usual Showtime112. Was looking forward to this.

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Thanks, I'm glad you liked it!

@pablopeter3564 Жыл бұрын

EXCELENT as usual. Thanks again for your contribution for Aviation History. No one really cares much about the details of the different type of MiG-19s, please don't take it that seriuously.

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Thanks a lot Pablo! You might be surprised with people and their comments :)

@edmundodantes6866 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for this great video!!

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for appreciating it!

@wiktorberski9272 Жыл бұрын

Really interesting video. Thank you

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for commenting!

@yeetboi911 Жыл бұрын

Yet another masterpiece of a video by showtime112. Love ur vids homie

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Hey, thanks! That's what I call a positive comment :)

@stanleylaham8932 Жыл бұрын

Incredible detailed research by you.

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback!

@Matterian Жыл бұрын

Ronin was such a bad ass!!! I loved watching the History Channels "Dogfights" and listening to Ronin talk about his exploits. The whole IAF origin stories are amazing to me!! First Super Sonic Gun kill. First Air to Air victory with the Eagle....I love it all!!! Great Video Showtime.

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Yes, he certainly didn't lack attitude 😁 Thanks for the comment!

@tetraxis3011 9 ай бұрын

Man was an Ace Combat protagonist

@Matterian 9 ай бұрын

@@showtime112 I got you brother. Patreon next month.

@ratagris21 Жыл бұрын

Great video. Love the black and white gun camera, and ground footage giving it a historical prospective. Excellent work as always! ♠️🎩🎯🎱🇺🇸🏁🇺🇦🔱🌻🌼🏵️💮🌸🏴‍☠️🏹

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much! I really like playing with those effects and filters (as it clearly shows) 😁

@ratagris21 Жыл бұрын

@@showtime112ice made a contribution to the channel.

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

@@ratagris21 I've just seen the notification! I am very grateful for your constant support!

@marcomarcon5802 Жыл бұрын

On paper, the Mig-19 was a very competitive dogfighter, at least according to US pilot who tested it, and in Vietnam it shot down several Phantoms, and yet in the 6-day war it was completely outclassed by Mirage IIIs

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

It could do alright if well handled. The Six Day War was primarily a strategic defeat. Tactical victories could hardly come by after such a blunder.

@cleytonnicelferreira4429 Жыл бұрын

This is lack of proper training not the plane itself, in my opinion.

@johncorkery3664 Жыл бұрын

Was the Mig-19 flown by Russian pilots in Vietnam?

@beorntwit711 Жыл бұрын

For a novel, and quite shocking take on Egyptian army state (and a general overview of Nasser - Amer rivalry that led them to such ruin) I can recommend the Soldiers, Spies and Statesmen by Hazem Kandil. It gets weaker regarding Sadat era, but up until 1973 war its an excellent source for why Egypt was in dire straits and why its army performed so badly. (Summary, it was a bastion of power for Amer and his coterie of officers whom Nasser was powerless to kick out of the military)

@marcomarcon5802 Жыл бұрын

@@johncorkery3664 No, by the Vietnamese

@laxanopoiosOG Жыл бұрын

Very interesting video. I would like to ask, were the egyptian pilots at this time trained by soviet air force advisors?

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Thanks! At the time, I believe that most training came from the Soviets.

@hmmjedi Жыл бұрын

Yes the Egyptian Air Force switched over to Czechoslovakian instructors around 1955 when Egypt moved over to Eastern bloc equipment as the initial purchase for this was from Czechoslovakia... Soviet instructors took over in the early 1960's when they started receiving further Eastern bloc equipment aka Mig-17-19-21, SAM's and ground equipment...

@laxanopoiosOG Жыл бұрын

@hmmjedi Alright, that's very interesting. Thank you for sharing!

@laxanopoiosOG Жыл бұрын

@showtime112 Thanks for the clear up, and again, great video!

@onkelmicke9670 Жыл бұрын

It is interesting that the Pakistani accounts of the MiG-19/F6 are so different from the Arab. They apparently considered the F6 much better than the Mirage III/V and some at least preferred it to any other contemporary fighter.

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Maybe it's one of those Fokker XXI / Brewster Buffalo situation. They flopped elsewhere but the Finns did pretty well on them.

@samy7013 Жыл бұрын

The MiG-19 was a difficult jet to master, and something of a maintenance nightmare, especially when subjected to the merciless wear and tear of sustained combat operations. The EAF had fewer issues keeping its many MiG-17s, MiG-21s, Su-7s, Su-20s, and Mirages in service. However, in peacetime, the MiG-19/J-6 played a useful role as an advanced trainer for fast jet pilots, helping to keep their yearly flight hours up, and therefore extending the service lives of the EAF’s more valuable airframes. It is also said that most of the EAF’s best F-16 pilots are former J-6 pilots, which seems to confirm the effectiveness of the MiG-19/J-6 in this role.

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

An interesting comment, thanks!

@eduardodeandres3864 Жыл бұрын

Cuida esa voz amigo. Me ha encantado el vídeo. Cómo siempre discrepancia en los números dependiendo de las fuentes

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

I will, thanks! Most of these conflicts haven't been properly resolved and in some cases, it is quite hard to access proper primary sources. That's why there are discrepancies, I suppose.

@jamesfranklin5541 9 ай бұрын

Thanks!

@showtime112 9 ай бұрын

I appreciate your comment!

@kevincoulombe6742 7 ай бұрын

And the Suez Canal is depicted with two channels north of the Great Bitter Lake. This was a 2012+ innovation. The Canal was only one channel back in the day.

@showtime112 7 ай бұрын

Thank you for pointing it out. This is a modern map of the area and we are lucky to have it even like this. Producing maps for simulations is a huge task, producing them for different time periods is simply impossible.

@oldguy8078 5 ай бұрын

For some reason the Mig-19 was considered a difficult aircraft and not popular. Many Warsaw pact air forces went from the Mig-17 to the Mig 21. The Pakistanis for some reason loved them. They had the Chinese version which was adapted to carrying sidewinders. I'm sure that made a big difference.

@showtime112 5 ай бұрын

As I usually say, MiG-19 is like a neglected middle child overshadowed by its siblings. And I find it very interesting that aircraft types which were generally unloved and unsuccessful often find one place where it's the opposite for them (Airacobra in the USSR or Brewster Buffalo in Finland for example).

@billyponsonby Жыл бұрын

Was the MiG 19 just outmatched by the Mirage?

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Not simply. Well trained pilots with good tactical situation could probably cope with the Mirage.

@branka1980 Жыл бұрын

👍

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Hvala!

@PappaBear_yt Жыл бұрын

No need to comment the video, you are a class of your own! The voice in the beginning, however, puzzled me. 🤔 A case of cold, AI interpretation or a cigarettes stack to calm down the nerves? I really hope it's the first one and that you get well soon. Stay safe, my friend! 👍🏻👏🏻💪🏻🍻🍻🙋🏼‍♂️

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the wishes! The voice is influenced by a viral infection I picked up. The most of the voice was recorded just before it but I needed to record the start again because I changed something. I still sound a bit like that ☺️

@OmarRazzaz Жыл бұрын

@showtime112 i see you're engoying my Mig-19 Egyptian Skin :D

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Oh, you are the author? It's a really good one, thanks! Seeing that skin inspired me to do a video about Egyptian MiG-19s, as the Sinai map came out and I was looking for something to do with it.

@bjornsmith9431 Жыл бұрын

Showtime 112 could you look on the war of Attrition 1967 -70 in the Middle East.

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

I'm really waiting for the F-4E module to be released by Heatblur. We have the new Sinai map which is very useful and there's just one piece of the puzzle missing.

@lordgacha8149 Жыл бұрын

could you made an video about the first fight between north vietnam and usaf on 3 april 1965 at Đo len bridge

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Currently not, I lack MiG-17. It might arrive to DCS (it's under development). Alternatively, I can grind to the MiG and F-4C in War Thunder but that will take a while.

@jerrymail 11 ай бұрын

I never thought Egyptian pilots were elite pilots, but I didn't expect them, and their MiG-19, performed so badly. That was a real Turkey Shoot.

@showtime112 11 ай бұрын

There were multiple reasons for it, not just the airplane. Arab militaries up to that point probably cared more about political loyalty than competence.

@adamesd3699 5 ай бұрын

What’s interesting is that Pakistani pilots were far more skilled and aggressive. They tried to teach these traits to Egyptian and Iraqi pilots (and maybe also to Syrian pilots but I’m not sure about that). In this they were only partly successful. The problem with a lot of Arab and African militaries is that loyalty is valued over competence. Also, there is often a worry about coups. So there is a lot of political intrigue. Plus corruption is endemic. It’s simply not a healthy environment to build competent militaries. Generally, these militaries worry a lot more about internal threats than external enemies. When they finally have to focus on external enemies, like when the Egyptian army actually took war with Israel seriously (in 1973), they perform much better.

@Alex_Blue_Note 9 ай бұрын

Lazy Or Lost : Excellent once again. Special thought for the paratroopers trapped in the ill-fated Noratlas

@showtime112 9 ай бұрын

Thank you for commenting!

@DavidBrown-cs1tq Жыл бұрын

A NVAF MiG19 was shit down over Vietnam by an F-4E with it's 20mm Vulcan at Mach 1

@jeannezehner9450 Жыл бұрын

Wonderful video. We are very focused on the destructions of Israeli air force on the different bases of the Arab league. But there were a lot of dogfights during these six days of war.

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yes, that entire counter-air operation was so efficient that the dogfights are sometimes overlooked.

@dominiqueroudier9401 Жыл бұрын

Salut Jeanne je regarde en ce moment en live stream sur KZfaq channel Macc Aviation le live du Riat 2023 La vidéo de showtime est excellente apart quelques erreurs sur noms des pilotes le 6 juin car des mig 17 était avec les mig19. Le 7 un mig 19 abattu par mirage 3CJ dont le viseur est tombé en panne pendant le tir. Néanmoins mig 19 abattu

@dominiqueroudier9401 Жыл бұрын

C'est bien ce que je disais. Un Mig 19 abattu avec le viseur HS du Mirage 3 CJ

@jeannezehner9450 Жыл бұрын

@@dominiqueroudier9401 Je viens de la lire, des mig-17 avec mig-19 ? Panne de collimateur pendant le tir ?

@jeannezehner9450 Жыл бұрын

@@dominiqueroudier9401 Faire cela au jugé, bravo !!!

@danielscott5004 Жыл бұрын

If you could help me out, what would be a decent cheap gaming PC that I could buy to play this wonderful game with? Because I have a PS five and I play war thunder doesn’t even come close to dcs? And I don’t know much about PCs.

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

I haven't been checking the situation in the market recently. I can tell you what I have. AMD Ryzen 5 1400, Sapphire Pulse RX580 4GB and 32 GB. This kind a configuration can run it reasonably well with medium details or slightly above.

@dziugasluscinskas5742 Жыл бұрын

Why MiG-19s with Syrian livery?

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

This is period correct. Egypt and Syria were briefly united in the 'United Arab Republic' and Egypt still formally called itself that at the time. That's probably the reason.

@migmadmarine Жыл бұрын

Is that gardocka airfield?

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Hurghada is also known as Gardaka, yes.

@jdsaldivar5606 Жыл бұрын

82ND AIRBORNE You sound sick Ese!! Some Honey ...Lemon...and a double shot of Tequila. YEEEEEHAW!!

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Because no germs can survive Tequila, right? 😁

@jdsaldivar5606 Жыл бұрын

@@showtime112 82ND AIRBORNE " You are Correct!! Sir!! And?? No matter the color of your skin...Tequila sponsors all to expose your skin...Nudity Ese!!

@TheKeithvidz Жыл бұрын

Farmer i read is agile, so can out turn Mirages. At the time cannot maximize heavy cannon either without DOGFIGHT TRAINING. Then again the uploader told me Pakistani victories were "outliers".

@andrewmorke 10 ай бұрын

I'm glad Egypt and Israel put warfare behind them.

@showtime112 10 ай бұрын

Certainly. A compromise can always be reached somehow.

@earlgrey691 Жыл бұрын

To paraphrase Roho Ramone's statement from 'Fistfull of Dollars'...''When a man with a MIG-19 meets a man with a Dassault Mirage,...the man with the MIG is a dead man'' They never stood a hope in hell ?

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Not so much because of the airplane but rather, the training and the strategic situation.

@earlgrey691 Жыл бұрын

@@showtime112 Good point.

@user-hk8ft9vy1v Жыл бұрын

Can you do a video about the fastest double air kill?

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Which one do you mean?

@user-hk8ft9vy1v Жыл бұрын

@@showtime112 in desert storm by rsaf

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

@@user-hk8ft9vy1v Maybe. It was covered by Dash99er already, I'd have to see if I can significantly improve o his video.

@user-hk8ft9vy1v Жыл бұрын

@@showtime112 ok thanks for responding!!

@1rapataca Жыл бұрын

What was so evidently wrong with Egyptian air force at this time. I seems as if they were not much more than targets: is there any accountable information on the details?

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Lack of adequate training primarily. But also the fact that armed forces were shaped by politics and generally poorly led.

@TheNorbica Жыл бұрын

Geez Showtime! What kind of throat infection is that? Your voice suffers as hell! Nevertheless brilliant video as always!

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Some kind of a virus. I had to re-record the initial part and I couldn't speak long enough to record the whole thing ala over 😁 Thanks for the comment!

@iftikharfaridy2974 Жыл бұрын

👍👍👍

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment!

@samnigam3451 Жыл бұрын

Israeli pilots flying French Mirages were skilled n trained as compared to their enemy Arab counter parts Flying Mig 18s but few Egyptian pilots had their share of success too...

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Yes, even the most dominant force in a conflict can't win every single battle.

@majfbr4742 Жыл бұрын

I love your videos! But I'm getting dizzy (nausea) watching it lately. I noticed that the most current videos have a lot of scenes in the pilot's fast movements and that makes me nauseous, unfortunately. His early videos were better, in my opinion. This is just constructive criticism, sorry if I offended you. Thanks.

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Do you mean the cockpit scenes? It is meant to simulate the drama but perhaps it might be a bit much. Simulations or first person shooters can cause nausea because your eyes report movement but your body doesn't. I'll keep that i mind.

@majfbr4742 Жыл бұрын

@@showtime112 Yes, cockpit scenes in quick movements.

@gnomisa Жыл бұрын

Mig19 was fine machine. Loses are due to badly skilled pilots, and Israelis had great pilots. Uhvatio si prehladu ali si ispoštovao objavu, svaka čast. Hvala! 😀

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

It was a decent plane. Srećom da sam većinu scena snimio dok se stvar još kuhala :) Hvala na komentaru!

@islamtantawy4193 Ай бұрын

لقد شاركت فى تلك المعركة

@valor36az Жыл бұрын

Can you make a video on your setup and how these videos are maked,amazing quality they are better than the history channel.

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Maybe someday. But I doubt many people would be interested in that. Thanks for the comment!

@atharvatoskar1633 Жыл бұрын

why Mig 19 performed poorly? due to pilots training or they were inferior than Mirage-3?

@GermanicoDeiFlavi Жыл бұрын

lack of doctrine and not a very good plane

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

The airplane itself is somewhat inferior but it was mostly the lack of training and general, strategic defeat that reflected on tactical defeats as well.

@dbeasleyphx Жыл бұрын

Holy sinus infection Showtime!? Are you ok?

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

A lot better than 5-6 days ago, I can tell you that 😁 Thanks for your concern!

@dominiqueroudier9401 Жыл бұрын

Hello mate. I sent you thé sumup of th fights. 6.7.8 june. 6 june à mix.of mig 17 and 19 met mirage 3CJ. Name of IAF pilots are différent. Sagee and Afek shot mig 17!!!. 7 june Schmul shot mig 19 With his gunsight out of order. Électric issue ? ? But shot down. About attrition war. No mirage loss 19/5/69. Just mig 19

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment and for the info. I was relying on Shlomo Aloni's 'Mirage and Nesher Aces' for the claim list.

@raresandrei2343 Жыл бұрын

Is it me or the egyptian air force was ill-prepared?What was the reason behind this distrastrous kill ratio? I ve seen that this tradition continue even in 70 ' ...

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

It is true that the level of training wasn't adequate. But it was probably also poor leadership which brought the pilots in difficult situations.

@raresandrei2343 Жыл бұрын

@@showtime112 and you think that a mig 19 in a competent hand would have made a difference?Or the Mirages were superior?

@adolfsandia4711 Жыл бұрын

It wasnt just the egyptian air force, during the 70s a number of soviet piloted Mig-21s also tried to take on the israeli air force and got humilliated because of it, the egyptians were simply outmatched tactically and strategically by the israelis in most fights, and pure skill on others.

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

@@raresandrei2343 In good hands, MiG-19 could be effective against the Mirage III I think.

@raresandrei2343 Жыл бұрын

@@showtime112 ok.It sounds pretty interesting.By the way , are you doing operation Tidal Wave ? Because on 1st aug.its the 80 years anniversary

@moxie_ST Жыл бұрын

All gun kills or not? Thanks for video I did not know that Egipt got so roflstump by Izrael 😮

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

All of these kills were achieved by guns. Well, the 1967 War was the worst defeat for the Arabs, generally speaking.

@midomarzouk805 Жыл бұрын

Nice to have such military history channel... The surprise Israeli attack 1967 destroyed more than 90% of the Egyptian air force on the ground, so Israel had air supremacy and all suicidal missions made by the brave Egyptian pilots were in vain beside mirages were more advanced in all aspects than the mig 19... it was a severe night mare but all that changed in 73... Thanks for your activity and information.

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this positive feedback, it's always nice to hear something like that!

@feetpiece_704 Жыл бұрын

Narrated by a Latin Jack Ryan

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Yeah, yeah. Go ahead and laugh 😁

@britishamerican4321 Жыл бұрын

So the Israeli pilots just couldn't be touched by the Egyptians? Like Stephen Segal in a bar fight--not even a scratch? Mmm-kay.

@thatdude-cc6ui Жыл бұрын

46 israeli aircrafts were lost (one by an Israeli hawk battery, due to a failure the communication system as he flew back). On the arab side, the number is about 451. So yeah, maybe "not even a scratch" is exaggerated, but you get the idea.

@britishamerican4321 Жыл бұрын

@@thatdude-cc6ui Almost 10-1 ratio in favour of Israel. Were the Israelis that good or the Egyptians that inept? Of course it was "both," but which was it mostly? Curious.

@thatdude-cc6ui Жыл бұрын

@@britishamerican4321 Good question. The "both" sums it up nicely. Although the key (specifically for the six day war) was the strategy. Especially operation focus and operation red tongue. And of course soild intelligence. Imagine crippling the airforce of your strongest enemy in an (almost) single strike, it gives you a complete air superiority throughout the war, and ensuring operational and logistical freedom on the ground.

@britishamerican4321 Жыл бұрын

@@thatdude-cc6ui Thanks. I suppose Mirages at the time were better (newer, I think?) than Mig-19s too.

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

In the 1967 War, Arabs suffered one of the most crushing defeats in modern history. Not even they try to deny it. They were poorly led, the pilots were not adequately trained and it's really not a surprise. Israelis were not exactly untouchable, especially when their leadership made mistakes (such as the attack on H-3 airfield in Iraq)

@OmarRazzaz Жыл бұрын

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@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Always 😁 Thanks!

@yosefmartinez9318 Жыл бұрын

Yeah because the IDF was annihilated the Egyptian mig.s😂

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

@naherf385 Жыл бұрын

Egyptian pilots were so poorly trained that Israelis were shooting them down like flies.

@johnhudghton3535 Жыл бұрын

Please, the fake "old film effects" are not necessary.

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

That's debatable 😁

@johnhudghton3535 Жыл бұрын

@showtime112 suit yourself. It really achieves nothing, but is an annoying fake feature. Have a think about it.

@1joshjosh1 Жыл бұрын

MIG 19 equals poo poo .

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

It wasn't necessarily that bad. Pakistanis did alright with it in 1971.

@alejandrocasalegno1657 Жыл бұрын

Egypt was defeated before the first shot of war............

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Essentially, yes. The leadership was bluffing but they didn't know Israel would take them so seriously.

@alejandrocasalegno1657 Жыл бұрын

@@showtime112 Nasser was a lot of words and ZERO facts.....The "Perfect" arab at the time.

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

@@alejandrocasalegno1657 😁

@davidatrakchi2707 Жыл бұрын

With all due respect, the Noratlas does not look like what is presented in the film, no one heard of a Noraltlas with paratroopers that was shot down

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

With all due respect, the Noratlas thing is explained in the pinned comment. And no, the video creator being an idiot is not the reason. Also, the video very clearly explains that sides disagree about these events and it is not 100 percent certain that it happened this way. However, it wouldn't be the first thing in history that 'no one' has heard of.

@frandescontrolado Жыл бұрын

As usually, soviet aircraft are very inferior to the westerners… Aditionally, soviet training and tactics, were bad also.

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

Often but not necessarily. Did you know that Israelis did mock-up dogfights between that MiG-21 they got from an Iraqi defector against their Mirages? The MiG supposedly always won.

@frandescontrolado Жыл бұрын

@@showtime112 Really? Woow… it says a lot! Thanks for the information, it certainly changes my point lf view, but it reinforces a little bit my idea of occidental (including Israel) procedures.

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

@@frandescontrolado Yes, Israeli training in this period was superior although Arabs reduced the margin somewhat by the time of the 1973 War.

@sayolomangy3706 Ай бұрын

The sources of your information are from the Israeli side and the French side - only - which manufactures the Mirage aircraft, and do not take from the Egyptian side, even though it is the other side in the fighting. Therefore, your work is clearly biased towards the Israeli and French side, and this is neither rational nor fair.

@showtime112 Ай бұрын

Why don't you learn a few things about geography, you will seem much smarter. You apparently don't know much about countries of the World 🤣

@healthiswealth5120 Жыл бұрын

I watched many vedios, I guess Egyptian pilot were born to shoot down, I guess they were only train to fly aircraft but don't know how to shoot...i myself is a muslim. I really feel bad..

@showtime112 Жыл бұрын

In autocratic societies, it is often more important to be politically loyal than competent to climb the ranks. That's why their militaries often fail. Egypt did make some progress by the next war though.