Sig Sauer is like the Italians. A bunch of words that could be said in a few. lol

How is the Wilson Combat's new Macro grip module? I have their XL module and I love it, so I considered upgrading to the Macro version!

@@ArduousPun it’s a definitive upgrade from the stock grip module. They added a notch you can cut out for a safety, which I think screws up the aesthetics but overall I like it. I don’t think I could justify spending $400+ for the AXG or Icarus

Likewise...

Just get a xl and slap a icarus precision grip module on it. That's what I did

Why. The comp version is better and has less muzzle flip.

@@jimherold7827 Presumably more velocity so better terminal ballistics. For some reason, there is little to no information floating out there as to whether or not there is a substantial difference. Supposedly, some defensive 9mm will not properly expand if the barrel is closer to 3 inches. 4 inches is supposedly the "sweet" spot, but again info seems to be scarce on this, it's just things I have "heard". If true, then yeah I can see why a 3.7 inch barrel is best...

@@jimherold7827 Better is relative. Everything has tradeoffs. If you need to compete with fastest consecutive shots on target then the comp helps you get back on aim fractions of a second faster. Definitely looks cool though, and if you're trying to beat a bad guy with a gun it may be useful to land multiples on center mass faster. But you'll deal with more carbon to clean, more muzzle flash, more heat creep into the slide, more problems when firing from the hip at close range and your face is above the gun (physical fight or in a car), more lint collection, less accuracy down range, less ballistic ejection speed, and higher cost.

​@@thespectator5259 For 9mm the increased length gets you about 220 FPS. But my shorty barrel is also ported so it's going to be losing a bit more velocity, and I have an extended barrel with a harrington comp so much more burn time. My friends recorded me shooting both of them there is far less flash coming out of the front of the long and there is fire coming out of the shorty and its comp holes so it's not burning all the powder. But the 365 platform is made to be a carry firearm. So imho what's the point, I like it mainly because I can throw its case and my MDR into the trunk and go shooting without lugging around 4 or 5 different pistols and 3 or 4 rifles. It normally stays in pocket carry from since I daily it... I think thats IMHO the advantage over others.

There are so many different ways to configure the P365 now that no one should be complaining... I feel like the cerakote on the slide and frame is one of the best upgrades along with the aluminum module and the G10 grips. Truth be told, anyone can buy and add a grip module that has a nice cerakote, but that doesn't protect the finish of your slide. I believe that standard XMacro is slightly thinner in the grip than the Legion and there are a few options available to enhance the back straps on the polymer frame including an aluminum palm swell. It's still not quite as thick as the G19 and weighs close to the same as the G19 when you add the 2 extra rounds. How long has everyone been concealing a G19?

p938 is smaller than the P365 if you don’t mind the safety. If you actually look at the internals there is no room to put in much more. Your best options for DA/SA are the Bersa TPR9C or the HK P2000/P30 SK

@@Sig_P229 From what I've seen, there are mixed reviews on the P938 and it is also lower capacity. The other guns you mention don't seem to be quite in the same size range. I do own a Grand Power P11 and that's a small DA/SA gun. The HK options look super chunky.

@@justinkase1360 yeah not quite sure about the HKs. I have only held them. I love my TPR9C though. Better trigger than my Sigs tbh. The P11 does look nice. Probably lighter than the 2 suggested. Plus doesn’t the twist barrel have very reduced recoil I do love the P938. Bought one and love it. I think the p238 is actually better and shoots like a 22lr.

⁠@@Sig_P229i prefer hammer fire over striker that’s why i love my 229

Why?!

Better yet, WC’s module is 1911 style 🤠🍻

I dunno, I can't imagine people are dropping $$ on the WC grips because of the stipple pattern, most likely it's for the extra hand grip purchase on these tiny pistols. But the XMacro actually doesn't have a grip problem, it's big enough that the regular and X/XL grip frame problems are gone. You can get all 4 fingers around the gun, eject mags without breaking your grip, and change out backstops to fill your hand better.

@fredvStein In general, I agree with that. I bought WC grip modules when I was carrying 365 lx's to increase grip size and texture - especially when paired with Tactical Development's WC matching magazine basepads. Admittedly, it's not as big of a deal with X-Macro lowers. Out of curiosity, I bought a WC X-macro module when they dropped. It's a purely preference issue. The front and back straps are much more aggressively textured than the Sig OEM version, enhancing purchase during the draw. The texturing on the sides extends uo higher than Sig's and the magwell has a more pronounced flar. The contour at the top/thumb area is also different. In addition, the WC grip moules have channels behind the magazine area into which Wilson's tungsten weight rods can be insertered to subtly alter the balance of the weapon - which I like. Last, there's an appearance difference that I like compared to Sig's black - or, in my case, Coyote Tan grip modules. Wilson also offers their's in black, grey, green, or a more FDE - like tan. It's a minor issue to change out the grip module without spending a lot, and one of the reasons the 365 platform is as popular as it is.

​@@XrayMike17plus1for $75, it's more affordable than buying the standard XMacro grip and has some better features. If I'm going to spend $105 on a basic grip, I might at well spend $25 more for the Icarus Precision Air module.

Yes, $500 cheaper, comes with 4 mags and without that comp'd slide that IMO doesn't do much for a compact model anyway. With a 3.7" barrel as well.

Agreed, the TACOPS is the sweep spot for me on this platform.

Im not a cop but I have the Tacops. Awesome! Actually the best deal.

What are n’s?

@@PD-we8vf night sights

@@PD-we8vf night sights

It's the standard Legion grey. Unless you're someone who prefers to buy something and not change anything, there are a lot of aftermarket options to make it whatever you want it to be. The gun can easily be transformed into a competition style race gun if you know what to look for. I feel like I could build an awesome pistol with roughly $880 that would outperform the legion. At $1,100 it would way outperform and outlast the Legion. It definitely looks completely different as well.

TacOps is just a Macro on steroids - add a magwell, extended slide lock button, and 2 extra mags... the Legion already has a magwell, extended slide lock button, and 1 extra mag.

Yeah, I agree. I was just wondering if Sig will follow the same (lame) path with the 365 AXG Legion as they did with the Macro. @@fredvStein

The beauty of the macro is…take your xl barrel, slide and put it on your macro receiver. We’re very limited in California so we have to wait and see what we can get.

No legions for us , but I was able to get a macro xcomp.

The XL is still the best version of the 365.

@@usernamesrlamo on balance that may be true, but I do love the Macro’s 17 round flush fit mags.

Yes, I had the comp and traded it for the XL Tacops. 3.7 inch barrel and I shoot it better plus you get a Magwell and 4 mags.

I agree that X-Macro has caught my eye as the perfect size carry.

​@BrandonGavin_EDC after over a year carrying it, it just is. I tried a few others in between, what a waste of time. Jm4 tactical holsters only, premium leather that doesn't mess with your finish.

@@coreysharp9794 awesome thanks

You can add manual safety to any p365. About $45 in parts and you notch the grip module. I’ve done in several times very easy.

@@uutube243 not on a metal frame.

​@@ifly64s That's why no one will remember your name.

@@willy4869 this makes absolutely no sense.

​@ifly64s i see the joke quoting the movie "Troy" sailed right over your head. You can cut that safety notch in a metal frame if you're brave enough.

That's a good question. I saw the regular x macro comp compared to the legion on video the other day and there is a difference in the frame. It may or may not affect playing musical slide.

I picked up one on 1/9. They just got it in. Just 1.

@@Doggonewood I managed to get one the day after New Year.

It fits my hand like a glove. I love the thinness of the pistol.

I just find it funny that people will pay for an upgraded metal frame on their pistol because they don't like plastic, but then the metal frame AXG takes plastic panel grip inserts.

That’s the 320

😂😂😂

Really??? Its nit even the same handgun?? Has Glock changed thier breadown so you dont have to press the trigger to take off the slide???

I've had mine since they first came out, I carry it every day. Neither my mags nor the finish has had any issues. Do live near the ocean?

@@SecondClassCitizen that’s good that you haven’t had any issues. The biggest area are the mags near the top and around the feed lips. And no, I live in PA so there isn’t any corrosive saltwater around.

Had my xl for over a year. Mag finish definitely comes off from wear, but zero rusting at all. Have two 17 mags for the range and those haven't been worn much. Also no wear on the coating for the slide.

I got on on the 9th in Az.

I would even go as far as saying all current SIG striker triggers are horrible. Admittedly I am a trigger snob, but in the modern time there is no reason to compromise on a clean,crisp break. SIG triggers are completely mush on their break. The original p365 trigger was WAY better on the break. I know it had striker drag as so they "fixed" it. Ever since then, their triggers are horrible! I laughed out loud the first time I felt one.

Walther PPQ trigger giggles at all of them.

For what????

Eyo!!! Viper from war thunder haha. Wtf. Nyraxes here. Good to see a man of culture here. I just got myself this exact legion. Am so excited

@@nyraxes4744 Great choice (:

They sell it without the plate cut. Of course sig doesn't sell just that slide. But if you find someone to trade you could.

@@Dwaurk not anymore they don't.

Enjoy your Eastern European made guns.

Have you held a macro?

Glock 19x, 43x this grip is longer than a regular Glock 19.

Yep, it still seems girl sized though. I have an old P229 that like a G19 is about as small as I can use and remain combat effective. I think I'm just too big for the newer fad of micro-sized 9mm guns.They seem great until I actually try to shoot them. @@PD-we8vf

Yep, I can do a G19, but the full-size grip is definitely better. I actually prefer the large-frame Glocks like the 20 and 21 if concealed carry isn't a concern.@@Doggonewood

Lol! It depends on each person heavily, it seems. I'm 5'10" and have no problem concealing this, but without that magwell. I changed to the P365 from the G19, which I had trouble carrying it comfortably and always feel it prints too much on me.

The lack of girth is going to help, but ya it is almost the length of a G17 grip.

Lol 6 ft and i conceal this and a g34 just fine. On the xmacro i just shaved down the beaver tail a bit

It’s a compact, not a full size. Just loose the magwell.

I'm 5'6" 130 lbs soaked and conceal a x macro comp daily. Keep crying you can't afford it