Simon Jordan and Jim White CLASH Over the Future of the Saudi Pro League after Mo Salah interest! 🔥

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10 ай бұрын

After links between Liverpool's Mo Salah and the Saudi Pro League, talkSPORT's Simon Jordan and Jim White lock horns over the future of the league.
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@francolive5718
@francolive5718 10 ай бұрын
I as an Englishman have no love for the premier league and it serves them right to get a taste of their own medicine. It was better when other teams outside the 5 English teams that usually win trophies could compete.
@rhowell1978
@rhowell1978 10 ай бұрын
The Premier League is really enjoying that medicine, its clubs have spent a record £2 billion in transfer fees this summer and there’s still a week to go 😂
@ticklemetrout9625
@ticklemetrout9625 10 ай бұрын
When did teams outside the top 5 have a chance of winning things . I seem to remember Liverpool dominating the 80’s before the premier league started
@Cedisdead
@Cedisdead 10 ай бұрын
Rest of Europe are not as fond about the economic doping in PL tho
@chucky7826
@chucky7826 10 ай бұрын
​@ticklemetrout9625 Everton, Villa, Forest, Derby and Leeds all winning titles in the 70s and 80s
@boggyfarzan2311
@boggyfarzan2311 10 ай бұрын
​@@chucky7826they were top teams of the era
@mrvan3491
@mrvan3491 10 ай бұрын
The Saudi Pro League seems to drive Simon's blood pressure up as much as Eddie Hearn🤣
@banzzzsaidykhan7898
@banzzzsaidykhan7898 10 ай бұрын
He is just salty because the same Simon keep saying the sky sports money building the EPL to this level so why can't the Saudis do the same
@A4RON123
@A4RON123 10 ай бұрын
@@banzzzsaidykhan7898bitterness. That’s all it is
@TheebX92
@TheebX92 10 ай бұрын
He doesn't enjoy competitions
@dazo8671
@dazo8671 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@dannyboy9573
@dannyboy9573 9 ай бұрын
Because he's flying the flag for most of us who don't wanna surrender ourselves to the crude intentions of these oil selling merchants
@paulstones1451
@paulstones1451 10 ай бұрын
Simon twisting about how they trying to change the economics in football but yet there’s Chelsea spending a billion in two seasons
@ps12220
@ps12220 10 ай бұрын
I love seeing the panic of these English pundits over their beloved nations players. It’s so funny, but it’s ok for the premier league to take players from all over the world.
@eamano8474
@eamano8474 10 ай бұрын
Totally different because they are taking players to play in a top league and bettering their careers. Going from one top 5 lesgue to another is OK but throwing money at top players to play in an almost seater league is ruining football. The Saudi league needs to grow slowly over time and when all the teams are at a good level then fair enough if a top player goes. The players under 35 going there now are money grabbers and don't care about being the best they can be which is a shame
@CA23345
@CA23345 10 ай бұрын
same,i totally agree,i enjoy watching the brits panic
@ThatEssentialAttire
@ThatEssentialAttire 10 ай бұрын
Let me guess, african football expert aren't you?
@Ryan-ep4py
@Ryan-ep4py 10 ай бұрын
@@eamano8474and weakening the quality of the rest of the European leagues.
@banzzzsaidykhan7898
@banzzzsaidykhan7898 10 ай бұрын
Very well said mate.... How did the EPL started hahahha they forgot they keep collecting players from other leagues, but now another league starting the same they did to the European leagues and they sound very salty hahahahaha
@buzzlopavich
@buzzlopavich 10 ай бұрын
God i love the english panicking over this. Noone grows up to want to play for brentford, just as noone grows up wanting to play for al ittihad. Its all about the cash
@DilbertWhitehead
@DilbertWhitehead 10 ай бұрын
Maybe now in this modern day plastic world where people care more about how many likes they get than the actual real world around them. Aspiration and ambition used to mean something. With this future you will never see the likes of a Ronaldo or Messi again, competing year after year at the highest level. It will be shorter careers with mercenaries happy just to take the pay check and go home, rather than fighting to win trophies or maintain success. Sounds great doesn't it 👍🏻
@magicaces13
@magicaces13 10 ай бұрын
It's a job at the end of the day. Players want the best pay just as in other industries and will go to where they can to get that. I was in conversation with someone the other day about Kane going to Bayern and they couldnt understand why he would just because he could win the Bundesliga. He's a spurs fan so trying to point out that Bayern are huge club and he got a pay rise was very painful. Closed minds here in England where apparently we have the only league in the world that's worth playing in.
@DilbertWhitehead
@DilbertWhitehead 10 ай бұрын
@@magicaces13 Saudi aren't just buying players from the Premier League...you do know that? Do you think its only England who are talking about this then?
@lilbaz8732
@lilbaz8732 10 ай бұрын
Lol nobody is panicking. English fans supported there teams when there was little money in the game. When la liga and serie a were richer. They'll be supporting them long after the oil runs out.
@magicaces13
@magicaces13 10 ай бұрын
@@DilbertWhitehead yeah i do know that. Whats your point? My point is that players across the football industry i.e. the entire world will go where the money is. That's why many players come to the EPL or the other top european leagues.
@camcunningham9443
@camcunningham9443 10 ай бұрын
Simon is asleep at the wheel What is somehow missed from this conversation time and time again is how many players would rather live in that culture…
@themaharaniscloset
@themaharaniscloset 10 ай бұрын
100m for Salah as a 31 year old player BUT!!!! + another 100m . Yes 200m as Salah's value is not only as a player. He is an icon of the arab world and would be the media and marketing face of that league. That is another 100m in value. The league itself and TV rights could even chip in, in the same way the MLS did with Messi. ... 200m sell him in January. and use this season as a FULL transition (rather than just a midfield transition, and another transition when salah eventually leaves in 2-3 years time). It saves time. Can build a team now for the next 5-6 years in this season.
@user-qk5sq7db6f
@user-qk5sq7db6f 10 ай бұрын
Saudi's have Ronaldo, Neymar, Benzema, now Mo Salah, just imagine the revenue they will generate from digital rights.
@themaharaniscloset
@themaharaniscloset 10 ай бұрын
@@user-qk5sq7db6f the revenue they generate don't matter. They've got oil money. The premier league teams need to cash in properly especially for the Arab players, as they have extra value.
@headsroll
@headsroll 10 ай бұрын
The funniest part of your statement is the assumption that FSG would even put that 200m to team transfers
@themaharaniscloset
@themaharaniscloset 10 ай бұрын
@@headsroll Liverpool FC and FSG are seperate entities. Its not your Dads Tuck Shop. The money doesn't go into the owners pockets, it goes to LFC. If they do not spend the money to replenish the squad the valuation of LFC drops. Thats counter productive and would upset the shareholders who's investments would weaken (REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS ON THE FOOTBALL PITCH), and it also works against FSG's end game which is to build up the value of LFC as high as they possibly can and then sell it and cash in. Thats the only way they will make their riches off LFC. After they sell. They are not the Glazers to take money out of the club. You think they extended the stadium for fun, Axa training ground was for fun. Its about raising the valuation of the club. and the value of the players on the roster, also goes towards the valuation of the club. Players are depreciating assets. That 200m would be LFC's money, not FSG's money.
@MrGengad
@MrGengad 10 ай бұрын
They seem to be envious of what Saudi Arabia is introducing to the market. In the UK, it appears that players are primarily concerned with their financial gains, disregarding legacy and historical significance. Money tends to take precedence. As a result, Middle Eastern investors are increasingly acquiring English clubs, as the value of history and legacy seems to be diminishing in importance.
@pevvex4452
@pevvex4452 10 ай бұрын
Big problem is media talk about gossips instead of facts this days.
@ivorscrotumic3556
@ivorscrotumic3556 10 ай бұрын
So, nobody should ever speculate...? Only talk about what's already happened & stick to the cold, hard facts...? What a boring world that would be.
@Toonlad99
@Toonlad99 10 ай бұрын
Much better to have a world of gossip and lies huh?@@ivorscrotumic3556
@TJTOPBOY
@TJTOPBOY 10 ай бұрын
@@ivorscrotumic3556that’s how it should exactly be because it prevents misinformation.
@Overhazard78
@Overhazard78 10 ай бұрын
Talksport isn't a news outlet, it's a radio talkshow. Grow a couple brain cells and you'll know the difference
@ivorscrotumic3556
@ivorscrotumic3556 10 ай бұрын
@@TJTOPBOY Speculation is not misinformation.
@spikyturtle54
@spikyturtle54 10 ай бұрын
"I wanna go out on a date with Margot Robbie but it's not gonna happen" 🤣
@tsmay4598
@tsmay4598 10 ай бұрын
They're doing what the EPL have been doing for years.
@bc0125
@bc0125 10 ай бұрын
No they aren’t. All the Saudi money is their govt who is using sports to whitewash the county’s reputation and get to host a WC (to one up Qatar). I don’t remember the UK govt putting taxpayer money into the EPL
@starbwoy133
@starbwoy133 10 ай бұрын
I agree 100% British media can't tell them jack coz the EPL has enjoyed plucking the best players from other leagues for years! So EPL need to keep 🤐
@xaoc6084
@xaoc6084 10 ай бұрын
@@starbwoy133They were still subservient to FFP though and altho some do break the rules they are then eventually faced with fines, transfer bans, etc. EPL had better finances because of the split of TV rights revenues. Use your brain and research next time
@ajc1482
@ajc1482 10 ай бұрын
​@@starbwoy133not really, by the time the PL started in 1992 we had a competitive leave with a lot of history as heritage already built into to. The Saudi league has none of that, it has money money money but that's all.
@weescottishguy8950
@weescottishguy8950 10 ай бұрын
@@ajc1482 yeah true but i remember late 90s the influx of foreign players started coming for big fees and big wages. And its been relentless since. Same thing happened in Scotland late 90s/early 00s and its done more damage to our own national teams while helping others
@nabila5325
@nabila5325 10 ай бұрын
A super league will be made in a few years and Saudi will have 4 clubs in it. They don’t need to have a competitive league they just need to have big profile players that will generate viewership.
@in8_ras
@in8_ras 10 ай бұрын
not happening.
@xaoc6084
@xaoc6084 10 ай бұрын
That ain’t going to happen. If a Super League does happen it’ll be the European clubs
@weescottishguy8950
@weescottishguy8950 10 ай бұрын
Their already getting our attention. Every football media outlet are broadcasting games and results in some form. Even Jim could tell you scores and goalscorers at the press of a google search while on air. Fear and jealousy is all it is.
@ryanbarry34
@ryanbarry34 10 ай бұрын
​@@Ian1-be2tb fully agree
@nilszandt4378
@nilszandt4378 10 ай бұрын
This will happen as repulsive as it is. Footballers will always follow the money.
@magical_blue
@magical_blue 10 ай бұрын
the Saudi league was started in 1957 and oldest team is Al ittihad 1927 and Al Ahli 1937 and the others follow them Al wehda was in 1916 but change it's name and merged also there is one team that was established in 1902 but got dismantled during WW1 and the players formed the other teams after the war
@MrGengad
@MrGengad 10 ай бұрын
They seem to be envious of what Saudi Arabia is introducing to the market. In the UK, it appears that players are primarily concerned with their financial gains, disregarding legacy and historical significance. Money tends to take precedence. As a result, Middle Eastern investors are increasingly acquiring English clubs, as the value of history and legacy seems to be diminishing in importance.
@Cedisdead
@Cedisdead 10 ай бұрын
Who cares?
@KemetEG
@KemetEG 10 ай бұрын
Al itihad (in Alexandria )and AL Ahly (Cairo) are Egyptian teams and the original and the oldest and Saudi Arabia imitate the Egyptian teams 😂😂
@geomattech7891
@geomattech7891 10 ай бұрын
@@MrGengad well said
@markillingworth1972
@markillingworth1972 10 ай бұрын
They’re not even in Europe so how the hell can they enter a team into our champions league , they’re in their own champions league
@MegaMessidona
@MegaMessidona 10 ай бұрын
It’s getting really old at this point, this fake outrage for clicks and views
@2ru2pacFan
@2ru2pacFan 10 ай бұрын
I like Simons optimism and hope 😂 no matter what you ain't going to stop them.
@CA213FAN
@CA213FAN 10 ай бұрын
sour grapes. football colonialists get colonized proper.
@2ru2pacFan
@2ru2pacFan 10 ай бұрын
@@CA213FAN 😂 I know right.
@skp8748
@skp8748 10 ай бұрын
​@@2ru2pacFansouth Americana a smiling ear to ear
@davidstephenson164
@davidstephenson164 10 ай бұрын
​@@CA213FANWe're the ones who do the colonising not the other way round 😂 cope and seethe.
@harpdrago7422
@harpdrago7422 10 ай бұрын
Money conquers all in football
@jordskates
@jordskates 10 ай бұрын
Simon: "They can't buy world football" Saudi Arabia: "Hold my non-alcoholic beer" Recent history has shown us how corrupt Fifa are, so I'd say anything is possible!
@moviesandmusic9250
@moviesandmusic9250 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂
@rhowell1978
@rhowell1978 10 ай бұрын
How exactly could you buy FIFA? It’s a sports federation and Saudi Arabia is a member, unlikely as it would require going through many legal jurisdictions and how would anyone have the jurisdiction to sell a football federation?
@jordskates
@jordskates 10 ай бұрын
@@rhowell1978 don't need to buy them, just get someone from Saudi to be in charge
@moviesandmusic9250
@moviesandmusic9250 10 ай бұрын
@@rhowell1978 there's always ways to override rules set by just human beings
@jalenn757
@jalenn757 10 ай бұрын
Jim is definitely after a job on Saudi talksport, seems to be fighting their corner at every opportunity 😂
@jwskye1969
@jwskye1969 10 ай бұрын
He foams at the mouth,when he talks about them
@user-qx9zn2cj4e
@user-qx9zn2cj4e 10 ай бұрын
Yes, anyone who disagrees with your viewpoint is positioning themselves for a job and has ulterior motives. Your opinion is the one true opinion.
@Seabass-vx2uk
@Seabass-vx2uk 10 ай бұрын
He can’t wait to drop the big fat “I told you so”
@ryannoble4789
@ryannoble4789 10 ай бұрын
Is this a lesson in thinking about duality conception.
@enjoyyourfishing
@enjoyyourfishing 10 ай бұрын
If you ask other leagues around the world, isn’t that what we did when we created the premiership and take talent from all over the world,because they couldn’t compete with the wages being paid here.
@JnoPrds
@JnoPrds 10 ай бұрын
No. Because the premier league is a rebrand of the English league which has been around for over 100 years before the premier league started investing heavily financially. So it was history, prestige, strong clubs, fan base + money that made it successfully. The saudi league only has money and non of the other aspects that make a league desirable to play in and to watch. It won’t ever be successful.
@MultiMcgurk
@MultiMcgurk 10 ай бұрын
This is a total Clueless comment
@magical_blue
@magical_blue 10 ай бұрын
​@@JnoPrdsthe Saudi league was first played in 1957 so that is a 65 years of history and the most county that his teams won asian champion league
@mikem8211
@mikem8211 10 ай бұрын
The prem earned that cash though it's not the same it's like comparing City with United
@skp8748
@skp8748 10 ай бұрын
​@@JnoPrdssaudi football has been around for 100 years
@scottmcgowan-pm1vv
@scottmcgowan-pm1vv 10 ай бұрын
This is literally just 10 minutes of Simon repeatedly explaining how Financial Fair Play works then Jim repeatedly saying "But they've got lodsa munny, they signed Mitruvic" like an idiot.
@SqualidBear
@SqualidBear 10 ай бұрын
Hopefully Jim does to Saudi
@nizaamshields9202
@nizaamshields9202 10 ай бұрын
simon is a bit salty,he is clearly panicking
@daviddorrian5349
@daviddorrian5349 10 ай бұрын
Jim is like a brick wall for Simon to talk to 😅 He never seems to take in and process points that go against what he's saying. He just continues to repeat is original statment.
@AA-ks5ip
@AA-ks5ip 10 ай бұрын
If was about legacy Kudus wouldn’t leave Ajax for West ham United. It was mid and late 90s when players (foreigners) started coming to England for more money. Can you name top non British players playing in England before the big Tv money?
@Slice998
@Slice998 10 ай бұрын
Jim White would definitely drop his trousers for a Saudi coin.
@monxd7475
@monxd7475 10 ай бұрын
When Chelsea FC invested significant amounts, everyone celebrated the move. However, now that substantial sums are being spent in other leagues, there's a prevailing sense of anger. The contrasting reactions might be seen as hypocritical by some.
@sjones8772
@sjones8772 10 ай бұрын
Except Chelsea are still working within the confines of ffp and have sold almost €300m worth of players this window. That cannot be said for the Saudi teams
@monxd7475
@monxd7475 10 ай бұрын
What about PSG? 🤔
@monxd7475
@monxd7475 10 ай бұрын
Italian league in the eighties?
@adamg8814
@adamg8814 10 ай бұрын
I can’t get the image of Simon Jordon and Margot Robbie on a date out of my head now 😭
@tylerpeters4220
@tylerpeters4220 10 ай бұрын
Simon on a dinner with Margot: "Oy you'll luv the steak, its bloody economical"
@Ad-wu8te
@Ad-wu8te 10 ай бұрын
Just yesterday the discussion was about the massive gap between the Scottish league as well frankly many leagues outside the top 5, were with the top 5 leagues especially the Premier League. Say what you want about Saudi but their model is the only way to close the gap. No other country’s FA has been able to because spending this way is the only way.
@John...44...
@John...44... 10 ай бұрын
Not really, they could use their money more organically to grow their league....
@alch3mi5t.
@alch3mi5t. 10 ай бұрын
@@John...44... nothing organic went on at Chelsea, Man City and Newcastle. 😂😂
@Ad-wu8te
@Ad-wu8te 10 ай бұрын
@@John...44... And how would that look then? Like all the other leagues around the world have tried? Pretty sure if it was going to be effective they’d have tried already
@user-sk8ps8hd5g
@user-sk8ps8hd5g 10 ай бұрын
​@@alch3mi5t.Chelsea had no FFP and went Gung Ho, Man City did what they did at the start of FFP and obviously managed to get round with loads of rubbish like "Oh we will rename the CURRENT stadium where CURRENT FANS go to the CURRENT PLACE to watch the SAME TEAM to the Etihad Stadium".....There you go pump in £150m. They renamed the stadium which created 0 Value at all and felt they were allowed to pump in £150m. Man City spurned the rule book and I hope they suffer. Although I don't think the FA and PL have the muscle or desire! Newcastle on the other hand have done nothing of the sort. Newcastle have spent this window near on the same as Liverpool and seem to be working within the rules. Time will tell!
@calvinwilliams-le8pl
@calvinwilliams-le8pl 10 ай бұрын
​@@John...44...they have had a league since 1957. I think that counts as organic growth. Now they are adding global quality players to further take their league to another level. The Prem did just exact.
@bluebones1778
@bluebones1778 10 ай бұрын
8:03 “some club in the dessert… with all due respect” 😂
@2k_
@2k_ 10 ай бұрын
lets talk about chelsea spending spree shall we? 😅I love to see english pundits going crazy 🤣
@tonyschiavone950
@tonyschiavone950 10 ай бұрын
Jim does what jim does best ..starts the conversation cos he doesn't give two shiny ones just wants a reaction from the studio boys and of course the phone lines.
@harrycallahan6623
@harrycallahan6623 10 ай бұрын
So doing exactly what Premier League did in 90s poaching Cantona, Schmeichel, Patrik Berger, Klinsmann, Emmanuel Petit, Bergkamp, Overmars, Ljungberg, Anelka, Henry. These players did not come here for 100 years of football culture- it was just the money. Good Job Saudi. Dont get sore Simon talking about "desert" clubs. Money talks, BS walks.
@GordonCaledonia
@GordonCaledonia 10 ай бұрын
I'm surprised that, "camels" didn't get a mention, or something worse. Simon Jordan is your classic English bigot.
@illyaedwards7188
@illyaedwards7188 10 ай бұрын
Just like players go to Real Madrid and Barcelona for the money.
@Rocky0Road
@Rocky0Road 9 ай бұрын
@@illyaedwards7188 they dont
@illyaedwards7188
@illyaedwards7188 9 ай бұрын
@@Rocky0Road yes they do, Real Madrid and Barcelona get most of the TV money in La Liga so when the best players come to Spain they are going to Madrid or Barca, also when the best players come to the Premier League its also because they are going to get payed a lot of money too, but they also come because the Premier League is the best league with the most historic clubs.
@commonsensei9772
@commonsensei9772 10 ай бұрын
They would like to join the UCL to accelerate the development of the league but it’s not necessary like Simon says. They got enough money to build their own closed competitive league like the NBA or NFL in America.
@stnbch3025
@stnbch3025 10 ай бұрын
Saudi League buying is like 3rd division buying from the PL, La Liga, Serie A. They need to buy 15 squads to have a quality league. So far they spent billions on 15 players. I don't rule out this got more to do with Newcastle because I do not believe the timing is a coincidence.
@MS_R1
@MS_R1 10 ай бұрын
You should work at the United Nations for your insightful analysis! 🙄
@Rocky0Road
@Rocky0Road 10 ай бұрын
It will never be as big or popular as the PL, they will get bored with throwing funds at it
@2ru2pacFan
@2ru2pacFan 10 ай бұрын
​@@Rocky0Roadsince you keep commenting the same thing multiple times, let me say this... The Saudi League will take over, if you don't feel the shift then you will soon. Right now you'll see these no named players in Europe who are starting to come up but their buying players who are close to their prime as people are most likely to watch them the PL team.
@Rocky0Road
@Rocky0Road 10 ай бұрын
@2ru2pacFan it won't be the same, buying it rather then producing it, sure a country in the middle of nowhere has unlimited funds could give neymar a million a 1 day and he would play in that league, paying way over the odds for players for kicking a ball around. It will fade away trust me believe me, even the golf didn't take off🤣🤣🤣🤣
@Rocky0Road
@Rocky0Road 10 ай бұрын
@2ru2pacFan brown envelopes just like the world cup. I'd never trust them
@shamitpatel8994
@shamitpatel8994 10 ай бұрын
9:35 - isn’t Saudi like three hours difference from the UK, therefore even shorter to Paris, Rome etc
@robzombie5928
@robzombie5928 10 ай бұрын
Saudi is 2 hours ahead of UK time so its actually less
@dco1929
@dco1929 10 ай бұрын
Does it matter really , players come and go . Supporters were following clubs for decades before the money went crazy . Liverpool are massive club , it’s got it all the history , fans , great songs , the accent lol , money can’t buy you love lol . Not a fan but you can’t avoid the other stuff associated with the club and city
@barrypegg3070
@barrypegg3070 10 ай бұрын
Klopp doesn't crush the Salah transfer rumours. Most people could have told you what he was going to say last night. All players have to have their price. The best clubs are the ones that sell there best players once they have hit their peak just before their performances start to drop off. At moment players are going to Saudi for money. The worrying thing is when you have highly rated Spain U21 star signing for Saudi club. We all know EUFA and FIFA will do anything for money so its only a matter of time before the Saudi League teams join Champions League.
@abdulmajeedalajaji3385
@abdulmajeedalajaji3385 10 ай бұрын
In fact, the Saudi league is more competitive than the EPL, which should be called the Man City league..
@abdulmajeedalajaji3385
@abdulmajeedalajaji3385 10 ай бұрын
As a Saudi, I find the amount of racism in this video to be appalling. First of all, they keep saying "These mercenaries are going to play in the desert," which shows how ignorant and isolated these pundits are. Saudi Arabia is a vast and diverse country. For example, if you go to the south, you'll be greeted by its greenery and mountains. Go to the north in the winter and you'll be shocked by its snowy weather.. Anyways, football is not exclusively owned by Europeans and they should accept the fact that other nations have a right in it too..
@WinksyTree
@WinksyTree 10 ай бұрын
Martin "We first started in 1888, we have hundreds of years of tradition"
@cliffcoates3722
@cliffcoates3722 10 ай бұрын
Some people miss the point. If they Join UEFA Champions League, Their federation has to join UEFA, which means they have to move out of the Asia qualification for the world cup for example and would have to join Euro's.
@prestonvillage
@prestonvillage 10 ай бұрын
I UEFA would have an issue with PIF owning multiple teams playing in the Champions League. That's 4 clubs in Saudi and then Newcastle. Huge conflict of interest there
@lfcspectre4335
@lfcspectre4335 10 ай бұрын
Sir Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber ✊💯 Facts
@artsy38
@artsy38 10 ай бұрын
It's no like Uefa currently have a fair financial system in place . Think Simon is saying there should be financial restrictions however they should be set after what English clubs can afford to spend, which is a far way off the rest of Europe..
10 ай бұрын
I can't believe people are actually taking the Saudi League seriously. Does anyone remember the famed since failed Chinese League that Xi so proudly touted to be a major contributor to its foreign influence? How about Russia with Gazprom and/or Chelsea? If Salah goes or not it makes absolutely no difference. He had a strop when being subbed against Chelsea in the first game Liverpool drew this season which is unacceptable from any player playing for ANY club. Now if Jim wants to create a storm in a tea cup, he is perfectly entitled too. Just as we're entitled to ignore him & the deluded promises of a rich league being played in the desert or that it will rival the EPL in two years. Seen it all too often before.
@DilbertWhitehead
@DilbertWhitehead 10 ай бұрын
Because we now seem to have legions of plastic fans who don't care about their club or being loyal to one club. They follow the stars and follow the money. Who will happily see the league they watch fail just so they can say 'cry harder' online. Who have never even watched a live game and have no desire to. They are the ones who empower this Saudi transition and they are the ones that will help put an end to football as we love and know it. You can find them in abundance on every comment section 😂
10 ай бұрын
Thanks for your insightful comment@@DilbertWhitehead. 'Plastic Fans' is an aspect I have indeed missed, I have since unsubscribed from @talkSport & suggest others to do the same. I've unfortunately discovered that the channel is on par with British tabloid media i.e Daily Mail, The Sun etc etc. We simply don't need mindless click bait culture, paraded as journalism to ruin our minutes anymore. 👋🏾
@DilbertWhitehead
@DilbertWhitehead 10 ай бұрын
@ don't let them win! You need counter voices in this world or it just becomes one big echo chamber. There are lots of sensible people around too who care about sustainability and a the future of a sport that was primarily to give working class men (mostly) a break from their hard lives. Football and football teams mean so much to so many people and its a way of life for them. This new breed of plastic fans will just pick up and drop and move on to something else, and are more concerned with trolling from their bedrooms than actually getting out and seeing the world and caring about tangible things. You have to keep the zombies from bursting through and flooding the world
10 ай бұрын
Don't worry@@DilbertWhitehead. I don't intend anyone to win anything. I appreciated your comment on 'give working class men (mostly) a break from their hard lives'. I remember my dad telling me an anecdote while attending a match in an undisclosed stadium during the 70s. On a freezing winter's day, he was shouting his head off during a match. Then suddenly felt a warmth on his back. Startled he turned around only to find a six footer hooligan relieving himself on him. He evidently said nothing & turned around, his team then proceeded to win the match. Somehow, surprisingly, he still reminisces on that anecdote fondly. I suppose only true fans could understand such an anecdote & have a laugh about it all these years later. Incidentally, I've also recommended my KZfaq acc NOT to recommend any talkSPORT content. Bon weekend et bon match! 😊
@DilbertWhitehead
@DilbertWhitehead 10 ай бұрын
@ thanks for the anecdote, it's all part of what makes football great - which transcends the internet, football celebrities and stats. It's much more than that and (hopefully) always will be. Bon chance!
@nicfreedman9873
@nicfreedman9873 10 ай бұрын
Wags won’t be a thing in Saudi at least🤷🏻‍♂️🤷🏻‍♂️🫢😳🤫
@gowthamb8096
@gowthamb8096 10 ай бұрын
I think there will be a time when the Saudi league will compete with the big leagues in Europe. I think it is fair to say most ambitious players would want to play for a top club like a Real Madrid, Liverpool, Man U, Barca, Bayern etc in the champions league but the players that won’t get there but will otherwise go for a mid level prem or European club will likely just take the Saudi option now
@xaoc6084
@xaoc6084 10 ай бұрын
It’s just not sustainable for them.
@jcsagoe9422
@jcsagoe9422 10 ай бұрын
Once they get into the CL they won’t be able to pay their players £1.8m a week and they’ll have lost their only draw. It’s a flash in the pan
@wukongsun6223
@wukongsun6223 10 ай бұрын
How can they compete with Europe As soon as they wish to think they can join a European competition, they will have to fall in line with FFP They will be restricted with a foreign rule etc. They will burn out quickly
@robbieorourke5534
@robbieorourke5534 10 ай бұрын
Arabia is not on the European continent and the only reason Israeli sides got in was because the dangers of playing in their own backyard was impossible. The UEFA and FIFA will have a revolution on their hands much like the ESL and looked what happened there!!!!
@Rocky0Road
@Rocky0Road 10 ай бұрын
It will never be as big or popular as the PL, they will get bored with throwing funds at it
@davidreilly2213
@davidreilly2213 10 ай бұрын
What a CLASH. Nearly came to blows
@gudbeatzent4665
@gudbeatzent4665 10 ай бұрын
It’s rich from Simon who benefited from the premier league buying the best players around by paying big wages
@MrGengad
@MrGengad 10 ай бұрын
They seem to be envious of what Saudi Arabia is introducing to the market. In the UK, it appears that players are primarily concerned with their financial gains, disregarding legacy and historical significance. Money tends to take precedence. As a result, Middle Eastern investors are increasingly acquiring English clubs, as the value of history and legacy seems to be diminishing in importance.
@pelseynzenze8415
@pelseynzenze8415 10 ай бұрын
Premier league complaining about another league taking its players and disrupting the league. The Irony of that😂😅😂😅
@rhowell1978
@rhowell1978 10 ай бұрын
Nobody is complaining, stop equating overexcited journalists with a league that’s spent a record £2 billion this summer.
@aliverbirduponmychest3055
@aliverbirduponmychest3055 10 ай бұрын
Once players bank accounts are stuffed with cash they will soon realise there's no CL, possibly lose their place in their international team because they are playing non league football every week! I understand any player who is 33-36 going out there but not players in their peak who could still play at the highest level!
@geomattech7891
@geomattech7891 10 ай бұрын
but they are targeting now young players and some r choose to go there, ex gabri veiga 21 years old who was in interests of big european clubs
@calvinwilliams-le8pl
@calvinwilliams-le8pl 10 ай бұрын
All this talk about history. 1. Saudi league established in 1957.. 2. Saudi clubs established in 1906. 3. History is for the british players and audience, not the global audience and global players. 4..foreign players will have supported their own local team prior to moving abroad. 5.Most of the foreigners who have played in the prem till date do not know the history of the old division1. 6. So your hstory dating over 100 years means nothing to foreigners. 7. However the foreigners now appreciate the history of prem but not prior. What drove them to prem? Partly money, partly competetion. Likewise will simply occur in the saudi league.
@RickyRyan718
@RickyRyan718 10 ай бұрын
Jim must read the comments about how he creeps around Simon, now he’s swinging the other way🤣
@db1418
@db1418 10 ай бұрын
The PL money actually came from Broadcasting revenue, in essence people were asked to pay more to watch their teams thus the broadcasters could offer more money to the teams. It isn't funded purely by an alternative revenue source (oil) with utterly no relation to the number of people watching it, which isn't many and those that do aren't paying much at all to do so.
@jamescox6868
@jamescox6868 10 ай бұрын
The money goes up when the demand for that league goes up. It is very simple my friend
@jjicetea
@jjicetea 10 ай бұрын
@@jamescox6868 The issue is that no amount of viewers will compensate for these sky high salaries, it has to be supported by outside revenue (oil and gas)
@izdatsumcp
@izdatsumcp 10 ай бұрын
It is related to the number of people watching it because that investment is being made to capture viewership.
@izdatsumcp
@izdatsumcp 10 ай бұрын
What happens if Saudi league has literally all the best players? Does it need support then or does it have revenues far outweighing what any league has had before?@@jjicetea
@user-qk5sq7db6f
@user-qk5sq7db6f 10 ай бұрын
World football means not Europe football, there is different continents in the world, every country have domestic leagues, Saudi become so popular in almost all countries because of Ronaldo, Neymar etc. They just need digital rights revenue to be successfull.
@gandalfthewhite8273
@gandalfthewhite8273 10 ай бұрын
How much are the Saudi's paying Jim White? He seems to be their biggest cheerleader.
@SDI21
@SDI21 10 ай бұрын
Simon is right though. If Saudi clubs wish to play Champions League Football they will have to abide by FFP, not to mention that the PIF would have to choose 1 club to own out of Newcastle and the other 4 Saudi teams.
@tsmay4598
@tsmay4598 10 ай бұрын
Why will the Saudis have to abide by FFP if Man City don't have to?
@199019852007
@199019852007 10 ай бұрын
Uefa can be easily corrupted they all love their freebies 🥂 warm weather holidays Swiss bank accounts
@DilbertWhitehead
@DilbertWhitehead 10 ай бұрын
​@@tsmay4598exactly this. Money can always find its way around rules. We'll be opening the door to the beginning of the end
@joebidenshandler2149
@joebidenshandler2149 10 ай бұрын
Man city…..
@SDI21
@SDI21 10 ай бұрын
@@tsmay4598 we’re talking about a single Football team who have been charged and being investigated to a entry of a brand new league literally built on money.
@Ice-emo-yt
@Ice-emo-yt 10 ай бұрын
9:58
@larrygerry985
@larrygerry985 10 ай бұрын
Basically, Saudi could push football into a Euro Superleague format. To compete with the cash, clubs need to create revenue streams, and the Euro Super league comes back on the table
@SDI21
@SDI21 10 ай бұрын
The Premier League doesn’t need it, it generated a record £5 billion in the previous season.
@jarent2652
@jarent2652 10 ай бұрын
The Saudis wont invest like this long term
@philip013
@philip013 10 ай бұрын
More than likely it's the Saudis that start the European Super League. Using the golf model, all they have to do is throw money at two or three clubs to join. The rest will follow.
@lilbaz8732
@lilbaz8732 10 ай бұрын
@@philip013 the pl would have to agree to it. Can't see that happening. Fans are not going to want to travel to saudi for away games, so they'll be against it. Won't happen.
@in8_ras
@in8_ras 10 ай бұрын
Because their league hasn't grown organically it will eventually not work in the end.
@paulstones1451
@paulstones1451 10 ай бұрын
All the premier league has to offer is money that’s why players come to the premier league as the clubs offer more money than the Spanish clubs Italian clubs and German clubs
@illyaedwards7188
@illyaedwards7188 10 ай бұрын
Players come to the Premier League because it has the best history and the oldest and most historic clubs.
@paulstones1451
@paulstones1451 10 ай бұрын
@@illyaedwards7188 not really they come for the money that’s why teams like Bournemouth can off better wages than most top club in other leagues lol
@robzombie5928
@robzombie5928 10 ай бұрын
There is a spectacular interest in getting paid a lot and if you dont have to really work hard for it as well its a win for the players. The real issue will be if say the Saudis create a Super League and the European clubs join it instead of there domestic league and then let money wash over them all, not Saudi level oil money but no Uefa or Fifa to take a cut of the top.
@FJames
@FJames 10 ай бұрын
Big chihuahua was pretty funny
@sexualchocolate10
@sexualchocolate10 10 ай бұрын
1.8 million per week. You'll be a fool as player NOT to accept it😂😂😂😂😂...
@nicoladolby2154
@nicoladolby2154 10 ай бұрын
This reminds me so much of the US in the 1970s and 1980s. All the aging stars went there for their pensions but they didn’t develop their home grown players & the league collapsed. Granted, the Saudi league has been going for decades, but unless the quality of Saudi players improves as a result of this, it will be a flash in the pan.
@plusultra6199
@plusultra6199 10 ай бұрын
What they have is money and that's enough. That's why players come to the Premier League at the moment or they would prefer to stay at clubs like River Plate or Boca Juniors.
@Dan-mm1yl
@Dan-mm1yl 10 ай бұрын
The PGA wernt worried within 2 years they had to partner with the Saudi or go bust They could easily lute sky away from the premiership by not charging them for the rights to show the games
@chrislacey8776
@chrislacey8776 10 ай бұрын
Problems with the league: the sheer amount being spent just isn't sustainable over time and also what happens if a manager thinks Neymar or whoever isn't pulling their weight and chooses not to play him on a certain week? Without substance it's nothing
@afromedia710
@afromedia710 10 ай бұрын
Players would always choose good money!!
@MrGengad
@MrGengad 10 ай бұрын
They seem to be envious of what Saudi Arabia is introducing to the market. In the UK, it appears that players are primarily concerned with their financial gains, disregarding legacy and historical significance. Money tends to take precedence. As a result, Middle Eastern investors are increasingly acquiring English clubs, as the value of history and legacy seems to be diminishing in importance.
@JohnDoe-zd9xq
@JohnDoe-zd9xq 10 ай бұрын
The double standards is impressive
@lukelocks9083
@lukelocks9083 10 ай бұрын
Selling is a 2-way agreement of a street, so when the PL transfer window shuts, no PL team would sell a star (needed) player, who couldn't be replaced for another 6 mths.
@TrFjAcOr
@TrFjAcOr 10 ай бұрын
Jim "I'm no spokesperson for the Saudi pro league"....the way you are going on Jim it would seem otherwise. You are obsessed
@rickinrio
@rickinrio 10 ай бұрын
I work in the oilfield and have done several years as an expat in the Middle East. Some do, some don’t but one terrorist attack and it will be over in a flash…. No matter what they are paying. There will always be one every few years. I’ve lived through it and it’s not for the faint-hearted… or primadona footballers!
@jakefelix505
@jakefelix505 10 ай бұрын
But ppl choose city because of money. The epl did the same with money
@zip7275
@zip7275 10 ай бұрын
I think talkSPORT need to look the word 'CLASH' up in the dictionary.
@yukm0uth
@yukm0uth 10 ай бұрын
What kind of wages do there 'normal' players get??
@internationalobserver..6343
@internationalobserver..6343 10 ай бұрын
real Madrid are to intent a state owned club , Royal Madrid . this is such a hypothetical debate .... The EPl pays the most hence they attract players . Now saudis trying to develop their own league .... whats the issue ? typical ....
@TheUltimatewomble
@TheUltimatewomble 10 ай бұрын
Isn't there only like 3 teams in Saudi splashing the cash?
@albetteridge5553
@albetteridge5553 10 ай бұрын
If the Saudi league want to compete in champions league they’ll surely have to comply to the same FFP rules?
@phillydavison
@phillydavison 10 ай бұрын
Like the current Champions did...
@xaoc6084
@xaoc6084 10 ай бұрын
Yeah and then they can say goodbye to their wage structure and the allure of what brings people in
@xaoc6084
@xaoc6084 10 ай бұрын
@@phillydavisonThey’re still under investigation for it. If they’re caught they will be punished. Big difference between breaking the rules and not having them apply to you at all. Use your brain
@phillydavison
@phillydavison 10 ай бұрын
@xaoc6084 You actually think City will be punished... use your brain.
@xaoc6084
@xaoc6084 10 ай бұрын
@@phillydavison They’re under investigation by the Prem, same as Chelsea. I think you need to use the small brain to differentiate between the two though. You obviously struggle with critical thought though don’t you 🤣
@joefernandes4256
@joefernandes4256 10 ай бұрын
Ask that question to Oscar, everyone does it for the money ultimately.
@fullenglishfootball5088
@fullenglishfootball5088 10 ай бұрын
The Saudi League is for people that follow players rather than teams. I do not see how that is sustainable. Fans will bugger off when their favourite player moves on.
@chickenlegs5219
@chickenlegs5219 10 ай бұрын
Blimming hell, Jim needs to calm down - he’s acting like football will only exist in Saudi within a year or two! 😂
@patrickryan5570
@patrickryan5570 10 ай бұрын
The Desert League is a disruptor however they are building a league that nobody seems to want to watch with teams nobody knows - Whatever happens the Premier League still stays the best because of the heritage of English football clubs.
@oee13
@oee13 10 ай бұрын
LOL soon you would see the Saudis celebrating of being 1st best league in the world
@AzlanWake
@AzlanWake 10 ай бұрын
​@@oee13 Can't even fill in their own stadium, Championship teams have better atmospheres than those Saudi League clubs.
@hussammoh3791
@hussammoh3791 10 ай бұрын
Will see in Saudi very soon. Lol
@zlajacrnjak20
@zlajacrnjak20 10 ай бұрын
This comment is a textbook definition of "coping strategy" to comfort yourself with lies, while being very afraid and knowing deep down that the Saudi League is a genuine threat to the Premier League.
@endatreanor5263
@endatreanor5263 10 ай бұрын
it's 1.8million a fortnight, not a week, not sure that matters, still 7 times more than he's getting at Liverpool
@citizenpb
@citizenpb 10 ай бұрын
I wonder if they'll still be taking the knee and wearing rainbow laces when they play over there? 🤣
@paulorganisation1
@paulorganisation1 10 ай бұрын
The saudi league should allow their feeder team to have enough resources to be able to compete...it isn't fair.
@sidewalkvids
@sidewalkvids 10 ай бұрын
how arrogant it is to think that whatever suits Europe is the natural order.
@coyninho
@coyninho 10 ай бұрын
Sounds to me like they thought they could just march in and help themselves to Salah and found the answer embarrassing. Now they're pretending it never happened by acting like we English are stupid.
@Youafool500
@Youafool500 10 ай бұрын
If they wanted to they could come in with a £500 mill bid for him and not think anything of it, yes they have money like that.
@LordChaos2010
@LordChaos2010 10 ай бұрын
You got love when he says the big boy league and not the economic league. City / Chelsea all the top 6 clubs they are sure not playing the economic league :)
@paulmclaughlin8038
@paulmclaughlin8038 10 ай бұрын
First time I've ever hear Simon struggle like that. Big Chiwawa? What's that about. Hes usually a nailed on wordsmith.
@illyaedwards7188
@illyaedwards7188 10 ай бұрын
There was no struggle
@tufflikeLK
@tufflikeLK 10 ай бұрын
I can see PSG, City along with the Dubai and Qatari clubs and the 4 Saudi PIF clubs playing some sort of Cup for money...
@VeryIntellijent
@VeryIntellijent 10 ай бұрын
With the threat of Saudi money, the super league will likely be brought back into the conversation for European clubs to make more money and fight back. If the threat is big enough and it gains traction among supporters, it will be a messy scrap for power with clubs, leagues, and UEFA/FIFA all involved.
@TheMoShowPod
@TheMoShowPod 10 ай бұрын
They keep going on about how “irrelevant” the Saudi league is yet they cannot stop talking about it. You can’t have it both ways. The irony and contradiction is just embarrassing.. Even for the BBC’s standards
@chiefkc1306
@chiefkc1306 10 ай бұрын
If I was Salah I would go. You would set up your family for generations to come. Nothing wrong with that.
@jamesellis3535
@jamesellis3535 10 ай бұрын
There only seems to be four teams in Saudi that players are joining.
@ettoetto3067
@ettoetto3067 10 ай бұрын
Enter the transfer market, you will find all the clubs in the season of 50 players from Europe in Saudi Arabia, and the winter transfer season, the number will reach 100 players The media does not always tell the truth
@jamesellis3535
@jamesellis3535 10 ай бұрын
@@ettoetto3067 so just remind me. Which big name players has Al Raed signed?
@adriangill5504
@adriangill5504 10 ай бұрын
The worry for me is when they have stopped buying old status signings i.e. benzema, then they may start buying the decent young players (Bellingham from Birmingham before he went to Dortmund) and other rising stars because their agents will want the most money That’s when I think we will all need to worry
@A4RON123
@A4RON123 10 ай бұрын
I won’t lose any sleep over this. At the end of the day money was pumped into the premier league to get it to the stage it’s now at. Now the Saudis are doing it, there’s an issue among hypocrites
@adriangill5504
@adriangill5504 10 ай бұрын
Yes very true
@kwenatsotetsi5885
@kwenatsotetsi5885 10 ай бұрын
"Some club in the desert" wow
@user-lx8vz6oc2b
@user-lx8vz6oc2b 10 ай бұрын
how much money do footballers need. its obscene. But no one seems to mention this
@rayul7833
@rayul7833 10 ай бұрын
These lot can't stop talking about the Saudi Pro league 💸
@Rocky0Road
@Rocky0Road 10 ай бұрын
It will never be as big or popular as the PL, they will get bored with throwing funds at it
@casual_citizen
@casual_citizen 10 ай бұрын
If Liverpool are going to listen to any offers then they better dig up £160m+ as Salah has 2 years left on his contract, is impossible to replace in the short term with his experience in this Klopp team, and the fact that they decide to pull this crap right before the window closes. To Liverpool, Salah is easily worth £80m pr season in terms that we wouldn't be able to find a replacement that comes anywhere close for less than £80m
@frasierfreak92
@frasierfreak92 10 ай бұрын
I’ve said elsewhere the opening price should be what PSG paid for Neymar. Mo has 2 years left and is playing at the top of his game. You’ve got money, so show us how much you want him!
@danielalisi5222
@danielalisi5222 10 ай бұрын
I think he’s panicking already 😂 he’s afraid Mo to leave. Allow him to go enjoy money 😅
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