Simon Jordan EXPLAINS Why Manchester United's Share Prices Dipping is IRRELEVANT to the Glazers 😳

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9 ай бұрын

With Manchester United's share prices dipping, Simon Jordan explains why this is irrelevant to their owners, the Glazer family.
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@johnmurray8428
@johnmurray8428 9 ай бұрын
Simon is a 100% realist. Only us fans believe the myths and stories around our clubs. It is a business and Simon is not wrong!
@funny573ff
@funny573ff 9 ай бұрын
Speak for yourself. Ony YOU believed it.
@johnmurray8428
@johnmurray8428 9 ай бұрын
@@funny573ff what do we only believe?
@BobbySpringer1
@BobbySpringer1 9 ай бұрын
It must be PAINFUL for Simon to have to explain this stuff to people with no clue. Manchester United are not an item in a shop with a fixed price. It’s a bit like buying a house. There’ll be a market guide but the value is decided by the buyer and seller
@cd83974sheirbrhej
@cd83974sheirbrhej 9 ай бұрын
Jim and Danny do have a clue though, its why Danny Murphy doesnt speak, he gets what they're doing. Jim knows, but he is playing his role, his 'man of the people' role, its quite irritating the way Jim plays dumb but its so they can rehash this subject again and again, its been explained by Simon so many times now but its like he keeps saying, some Utd fans dont listen and keep on with the 'Glazers OUT NOW' screaming when its just not going to play out like that.
@samwize28
@samwize28 9 ай бұрын
@@cd83974sheirbrhej completely agree - the only thing I have an issue with on Simon r.e the glazers is that, while he correctly identifies that the issues lies at director level and with recruitment, he fails to point out that the glazers are the people who hired said directors and recruitment staff - they are literally the only people who have the power to change MUFC at that level, yet they choose not to (clearly because they don’t care). And THAT is (amongst other valid reasons) why Utd fans protest them.
@TehApolloEleven
@TehApolloEleven 9 ай бұрын
And share price is a vital indicator of value 😂
@tyroneraman6395
@tyroneraman6395 9 ай бұрын
It's nothing like buying a house ffs! So many different variables. Wow. Trying to be clever are we?
@MCFCTheMadHatter
@MCFCTheMadHatter 9 ай бұрын
@@tyroneraman6395 Paradigmatically, it’s quite similar actually. The breadth & scope differ along which comes more variables to be valued, but at the end of the day, all those variable added up equate to a particular number from the seller’s position and the potential buyer’s. If they meet, sale is done if not, they either walk away or continued to go back and forth until an agreement is reached.
@lewiscannon6126
@lewiscannon6126 9 ай бұрын
Jim is such a melt. Always playing the 'I'm one of you, the people' card
@Darth-Boner
@Darth-Boner 9 ай бұрын
There all melts
@YouNeedToGetAJob
@YouNeedToGetAJob 9 ай бұрын
@@Darth-Boner*they’re
@chrisconnor1312
@chrisconnor1312 9 ай бұрын
Jim knows all the facts. He’s just playing devils advocate to start a conversation
@lloydwaycott8178
@lloydwaycott8178 9 ай бұрын
@@chrisconnor1312 I really don't think he does. He should simply defer to Simon on any financial matters.
@jaedon7446
@jaedon7446 9 ай бұрын
Hate to agree with Simon, but yes right. If the glazers could get the management correct to run the club properly, no one would complain. They deserve blame, but if they don’t want to sell there’s nothing anyone can do.
@samwize28
@samwize28 9 ай бұрын
Just because there is nothing anyone can do that doesn't mean the glazers should be immune to criticism or protest though? personally as a Utd fan I 100% agree with you, nothing can be done (short of violence) - its why I have given up all things MUFC related barring takeover/protest news.
@liammoore7111
@liammoore7111 9 ай бұрын
Let Simon square a circle
@triunf1
@triunf1 9 ай бұрын
People are tired of fans and pundits scapegoating the Glaziers every time Utd are not doing well. In the past few years Utd have spent a lot of money (apart from Chelsea) and the self entitled club think success is their daily bread. Did the Glazier suggest the buying of Evan ? Did the Glazier encourage the manager to call out Sancho publicly?? Crazy
@TokenishTrinket
@TokenishTrinket 9 ай бұрын
@@samwize28 Don't give up on your team, just don't buy their products until the ownership changes. The Glazers and other shareholders rely upon international fanbase that buys shirts and buy rights to play games on TV and streaming. If you want them to sell join the protests and don't buy their products, that will devalue their investment (by lagging product sales and lower brand attractiveness) and cause a sale. Unfortunately Man U are a global brand so your individual protest won't matter but over time the market stagnation of the brand and ROI can make the stakeholders start to sell. We did it at Arsenal, now Josh Kroenke had to move to a hands-on position in the co-chairman role and reform the club's structure to bring back the corporate box spenders and the long term season ticket holders. His changes meant that Arsenal now have a director of football (Edu) that invests in the playing staff and manager to provide success on the pitch which is driving brand deals and competition revenue higher than pre-2018. The addition of Champions League returns and subsiquent deals mean that high expenditure in the short term can be offset and eventually negated by latterly produced net income.
@adamgillaspy1
@adamgillaspy1 9 ай бұрын
has you seen the stadium? been to it in the last 10 years? if u had you would know why. that 1b taken out on intrested could of fixed the issue, training ground is outdated, the academy has no guidence anymore. i reacently worked with a guy who worked for my company part time and full time as united academy, was there for like 10 years, hes just left@@triunf1
@killerbee8892
@killerbee8892 9 ай бұрын
As a trader I can tell you Simon knows his stuff and given a small bit of knowledge, bringing up their stock price in this situation is very silly.
@rjb10101
@rjb10101 9 ай бұрын
100%...
@gusleonard9397
@gusleonard9397 9 ай бұрын
Facts. The way the stock is moving is just on short term speculation
@Gasser24769
@Gasser24769 9 ай бұрын
AHHHH RIGHT ,,, THIS VIDEO STILL WONT CONVINCE HIM THE GLAZERS ARE BELLENDS . SHARE PRICE IS INDICATIVE THOUGH sry for all caps I know
@thedreamer3454
@thedreamer3454 9 ай бұрын
That's true only If they don't fall off.... If they fall off as a brand and in the football sense they will become a Liverpool or Everton. So yes for the moment.... All rosey..... But they are falling behind MASSIVELY. All it takes is a few more poor decisions and boom. Mid table club and that stock price becomes worse.
@gaffs82
@gaffs82 9 ай бұрын
It’s irrelevant to those ppl who have bought stock in the hope to make a quick profit when The Glazers sell. It’s also irrelevant as the market now believes that the club is less likely to be sold that it was last week. What makes the stock price irrelevant though is the fact only a small portion of the club is floated on the NYSE.
@Orillionn
@Orillionn 9 ай бұрын
Simon spitting facts
@lfcspectre4335
@lfcspectre4335 9 ай бұрын
Sir Orillion = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts
@adamscowcroft8248
@adamscowcroft8248 9 ай бұрын
A mortgage is nothing like 75% debt. Thick as pig muck.
@stretfordender11
@stretfordender11 9 ай бұрын
Apart from he’s lying about a 6BN bid for United. He’s right with the share price not mattering though.
@TehApolloEleven
@TehApolloEleven 9 ай бұрын
@@stretfordender11share price does matter😂
@Veryverydrunk
@Veryverydrunk 9 ай бұрын
Thank goodness for Simon. If Manchester united could be bought by ‘buying all the shares on the stock market’ then Qatar would have done it wouldn’t they for a few Billion less than they offered. You cannot by the class A controlling shares the glazers own. People should use their brains.
@housinauthority5258
@housinauthority5258 9 ай бұрын
It is because the Glazers are the majority shareholders.
@TehApolloEleven
@TehApolloEleven 9 ай бұрын
All Manchester United shares on the stock market ≠ all Manchester United shares
@michaelohara49
@michaelohara49 9 ай бұрын
​@@TehApolloElevenExcept 100 percent of United is not on the stock market. They floated a percentage of their shares, so no, you are completely wrong.
@user-qe9gt5rg6t
@user-qe9gt5rg6t 9 ай бұрын
Simon nailed it on the media narrative 😂
@kurainaru
@kurainaru 9 ай бұрын
Jim is so good at winding Simon up 🤣🤣🤣
@Reez_100oC
@Reez_100oC 9 ай бұрын
Love Simon on this show at times😂
@whoami1654
@whoami1654 9 ай бұрын
Me too ❤
@kc8923
@kc8923 9 ай бұрын
Love to hear Simon talking about business!! He's totally clear in his understanding of the financial aspects of football.
@haimainjauo242
@haimainjauo242 9 ай бұрын
Not the only one who does though. He's just inflammatory when he's waxing lyricals
@RomansEight38-39
@RomansEight38-39 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely facts by Simon. It’s hard to accept but the truth
@whoknew2273
@whoknew2273 9 ай бұрын
Right sit down class here is lesson by Simon Jordan 😆
@SimonOutdoors
@SimonOutdoors 9 ай бұрын
It’s fine for there to be a difference between the share value and what someone is willing to pay. If someone was offering 6+bn the shares still weren’t worth that much even before the dip. Its only worth how much someone is willing to pay at a given point in time. And there are a ton of ways to value a business!
@terrymccan5891
@terrymccan5891 9 ай бұрын
Very few companies get sold for what their market cap position is worth, their will be a margin of goodwill which sits on the new owners balance sheet but Jim and Co dont understand that
@SimonOutdoors
@SimonOutdoors 9 ай бұрын
@@terrymccan5891 indeed, goodwill was the key phrase missing
@thedreamer3454
@thedreamer3454 9 ай бұрын
Correct but nothing stays the same. So just as much as its worth 6 billion today tomorrow it could be worth 1 billion. If they keep up these poor results and their asset keep dropping In value so will the clubs selling price
@fubub3595
@fubub3595 9 ай бұрын
​@@thedreamer3454in case that they loses some sponsors
@housinauthority5258
@housinauthority5258 9 ай бұрын
​@@thedreamer3454Incorrect
@AlanBourdillionTrehearne
@AlanBourdillionTrehearne 9 ай бұрын
Jim being hysterical again without any understanding of how business works
@aaronhewitt3949
@aaronhewitt3949 9 ай бұрын
Danny Murphy looks bored to death 😂
@charlesbrown4941
@charlesbrown4941 9 ай бұрын
Doesn’t have a clue what’s going on.
@philanimagagula5458
@philanimagagula5458 9 ай бұрын
That redbull Ferrari analogy is so on point
@simonmenzies3142
@simonmenzies3142 9 ай бұрын
Utd ARE NOT the most icon club at all anymore😂😂😂 Honestly🤦🏻‍♂️ Things don’t stay the same for ever simon! Madrid, Barca, Liverpool, Man City, Bayern, Chelsea, United, Arsenal, AC Milan, Juventus, inter,
@simonmenzies3142
@simonmenzies3142 9 ай бұрын
@@zelig1799 so from your time scale and reasoning utd are what? Zero
@astrologiaeaudiobooks7278
@astrologiaeaudiobooks7278 9 ай бұрын
Man Utd is nowhere near the biggest european club here in Brazil or Latin America. Ronaldo, Romario, Ronaldinho, Rivaldo, Kaka never considered playing for them. Real Madrid and Barcelona are way bigger.
@samarpandas3260
@samarpandas3260 9 ай бұрын
Their are 6 continents in the world North America ,Africa specially sub Saharan Africa, Asia specially china ,India,Japan,korea, indoneshia, Australia which league dominate ... And man UTD play in which league......
@porchathebulldogscottychan5182
@porchathebulldogscottychan5182 9 ай бұрын
Simon talking facts Danny hated it 😂😂
@MRAPEXPREDATOR1
@MRAPEXPREDATOR1 9 ай бұрын
It’s very simple. Before the Glazers there wasn’t any debt! Now there is around 1billion of debt. What is wrong with fans being angry about that?
@jw20212
@jw20212 9 ай бұрын
Correct 🔰🔰🔰🔰🔰
@samsmyth-nh4ko
@samsmyth-nh4ko 9 ай бұрын
Because the debt doesn't effect the fans or team for that matter.very simple
@Franglaiso
@Franglaiso 9 ай бұрын
Yeah but why do you care. It's not like it stops the club from buying players. The only club to have spent more than united in the PL over the past five years is Chelsea. Debt is being lumped onto the club, but as far as you are concerned that doesn't stop you enjoying football.
@MRAPEXPREDATOR1
@MRAPEXPREDATOR1 9 ай бұрын
@@samsmyth-nh4ko everything about our club effects us fans. Win lose or draw.
@leemurf2322
@leemurf2322 9 ай бұрын
@@samsmyth-nh4koless to invest in the rotting stadium and training ground when you are paying massive interest payments on the loans. Having that level of debt is never good
@bensouthwell1339
@bensouthwell1339 9 ай бұрын
the value of a company is the value of every share in said company on any given day i.e. the *market cap* People will buy shares if available at the lower price until the market reacts to substantial buying of said shares and then it becomes supply and demand. So keep nibbling away and you could buy a chunk of Man United on the cheap and if lucky enough to own seven percent or more of the *market cap* you can under USA law have a seat on the board now that would be interesting.
@petershortland478
@petershortland478 9 ай бұрын
If Man United fans were so upset stop spending on season ticket, a full kit for your child, programme. You doing all doesnt go into the club it goes in glazers pockets
@benellis9665
@benellis9665 9 ай бұрын
Other than drawing a picture in wax crayon, I don't know how much clearer Simon can make this for Jim!
@Martin-kl1vk
@Martin-kl1vk 9 ай бұрын
You can not say that abramovich did not love Chelsea
@livewireredb.9953
@livewireredb.9953 9 ай бұрын
Maybe someone can explain this, but how would a World Cup in US increase the value of a club in England? I don't get it.
@y2k8719
@y2k8719 9 ай бұрын
More/New eyes on the game. Maybe then US companies want to invest into United.
@AJ-xv7oh
@AJ-xv7oh 9 ай бұрын
American eyes and media will be on the game. Stocks are fickle and will raise and fall based on anything but if there's attention on something, they will usually rise.
@gillie-monger3394
@gillie-monger3394 9 ай бұрын
Bigger share of a bigger financial package via advertising and sponsorship.
@jamiiiedee3196
@jamiiiedee3196 9 ай бұрын
Because they’re that disconnected from reality and thick they probably think United will play in it
@Alto53
@Alto53 9 ай бұрын
​@jamiiiedee3196 actually the revamped Club World Cup is in the US in 2025, so they might play in that.
@thedreamer3454
@thedreamer3454 9 ай бұрын
One element simion is ignoring is they are banking on utd holding it's value. As we have seen businesses don't always do that. If Newcastle, Chelsea and spurs overtake them results and performance wise it's gonna be hard to maintain this icon status and value
@user-dq6se6er8j
@user-dq6se6er8j 9 ай бұрын
Spurs?! LMAO
@OfficialINZ
@OfficialINZ 9 ай бұрын
United has been rubbish on the field for over 10 years and their brand has grown exponentially in that period. If they start winning, it will be a problem for everyone. Their brand dwarves all other brands in football bar 1 or 2
@01mrlek
@01mrlek 9 ай бұрын
What a load of tosh
@thedreamer3454
@thedreamer3454 9 ай бұрын
@@user-dq6se6er8j as much as spurs sometimes is a joke their structure and infrastructure is sustainable. If sold they are easily highly attractive and have a foundation for success. Utd need so much done due to the neglect it's literally living off its brand. Stadium, training facilities, youth academy, assets and recovery management all need rebuilding. It's a massive job.
@thedreamer3454
@thedreamer3454 9 ай бұрын
@@OfficialINZ agreed but what you are admitting is they are living off their brand. That will only last for so long. Attitudes and legacy gets forgotten QUICK. Especially in this era. Also their brand is in line with growth of the Premier league.
@kerryman9589
@kerryman9589 9 ай бұрын
Poor Danny I should of rang in sick today I only studied how to kick a ball this is to stressful 😅
@petermarshall9162
@petermarshall9162 9 ай бұрын
The previous owners would buy the best players and still make a profit. The glazers didn't spend any of their own money when buying players overall the buying increase the debt they put on the club, which we didn't have before the glazers the servicing of the debt has hindered our purchasing especially this year we have had to sell to buy never in all the years have we had to depend on selling player's to get player's in so much so we have missed out on player's such as Kim min jae, lavia, kane I have a supporter since 1986 Simon seems to be part of the owners union he would probably say the glazers are better owners than the previous owners
@zaki9987
@zaki9987 9 ай бұрын
If anyone involved in simple trade he'll understand what Simon is saying, people already offered 6b so that's the standard now because people were actually willing to pay that amount (real value)
@marwenost
@marwenost 9 ай бұрын
Simon Jordan He should be a professor in Sports business at big Universities
@TechBytes2day
@TechBytes2day 9 ай бұрын
MU fan, Simon sometimes gets under my skin but he's spitting facts here.
@timeforarest
@timeforarest 9 ай бұрын
Danny is watching and learning from Simon. Smart! Whilst Jim only understands a paystub.
@fadyNUFC
@fadyNUFC 9 ай бұрын
Hes right but will effedt ffp and player bids
@stevewalsh1718
@stevewalsh1718 9 ай бұрын
I know nothing about business, quite happily may I add, but jissus; Simon is all over it. Fascinating stuff that. Great article.
@gregoryiszchak9092
@gregoryiszchak9092 9 ай бұрын
"That's not the only reason. Hehe" Sounds like David Brent
@Swabes7
@Swabes7 9 ай бұрын
Danny hates hearing Simon say how big Man Utd are haha
@mhutchinson89
@mhutchinson89 9 ай бұрын
couldn't replace Fergie but they missed out on Pep, Klopp, Ancelotti
@sonicworm8249
@sonicworm8249 9 ай бұрын
if share price was a true representation of value then why did twitter go for 3x the share price
@yorkshireladtanka5343
@yorkshireladtanka5343 9 ай бұрын
So glad we have Simon to give us an insite to how this works 👏 top man 👍
@Batecatcher
@Batecatcher 9 ай бұрын
Yes Simon, you work to pay off your mortgage to clear the debt, the Glazers are not paying the debt off!
@Panjax
@Panjax 9 ай бұрын
But they weren't sold for 6 Billion. Nobody was willing to bid that much. Simon saying 'they're not doing too badly are they, going for 6 billion' only if someone actually pays that. But not even the Saudi's who've been paying over the odds in multiple arenas for multiple ventures are even willing to match that.
@AAGGHH4
@AAGGHH4 9 ай бұрын
Current market cap is usually irrelevant. If the market cap is currently 3 billion. Every shareholder could sell to get there equivalent of that 3 billion. If a company expects itself to grow over the next few years. It requires the buyer to offer more than what they’ll be worth X amongst years down the line. If my business is worth 3 billion now. 5 years down the line I expect it to be worth 6 billion. I could just wait and sell my shares then, giving me the flexibility to choose when to deal with the capital gains tax. If the glazers think it’ll be worth 6 billion in 5 years. You need to pay a premium to warrant me to sell now. That’s a very basic explanation of the market cap argument
@atifmirza696
@atifmirza696 9 ай бұрын
The share price could go down to $1 it means nothing. Man Utd will be sold more than its worth on paper end of. The only way the glazers may be pressured to sell is if there was literally a riot at old trafford and the offices/stadium/carrington are damaged and destroyed to a huge extent. Then and only then sponsors may distance themselves and maybe some pressure to sell. However man utd has so many fans that will just fill the seats.
@thelmaviaduct
@thelmaviaduct 9 ай бұрын
Highest net spend over the past 10 years in the prem. But Glazers out.... 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@jamesmaskell3743
@jamesmaskell3743 9 ай бұрын
Thankfully Simon explains why its not worth freaking out about. So many people talking out their butts on what the share price represents.
@lloydwaycott8178
@lloydwaycott8178 9 ай бұрын
''Hey Jim, what's your opinion on such and such?'' ''I don't know, what do most fans think? I'll think that too.''
@MyAlan999
@MyAlan999 9 ай бұрын
Vouchers to Spearmint 🤣😂🤣 Sounds like Danny's knows his stuff
@duckypresents
@duckypresents 9 ай бұрын
Danny Murphy having a nice little draw around 6 minutes.
@georgedavies-ball657
@georgedavies-ball657 9 ай бұрын
Truly the only way to force the Glazers out is to see it in business terms. Protests are about our opinions and feelings and they couldn’t two shits about either. Business is about money. At least 90% of fans NEED to stop going to games, unfollow all social media and not buy any merchandise and they’ll be gone within a month or two. As soon as their pockets are hit that hard they’ll flee like rats on a sinking ship.
@markcooper5595
@markcooper5595 9 ай бұрын
In hindsight I Bet Mike Ashley wished he’d have stuck a few zeros on the end of Newcastles asking price when he sold it
@Rodney231
@Rodney231 9 ай бұрын
At No point in history have United been a bigger club than Real Madrid by any measure....Man United is not even bigger than Barcelona....There is a world outside the corridors of Britain....
@tomrolph7184
@tomrolph7184 9 ай бұрын
Is the business not listed on the stock exchange for everyday people to buy and sell? If it is, then a drastic shift in the stock price does effect everyday people buying and selling shares. Simon is addressing the impact on the Glazers and not taking into account the large number of normal people who own shares
@fitnesstrainer9393
@fitnesstrainer9393 9 ай бұрын
It works on supply and demand though. Those other shareholders can just not sell their stock. You aren't forced to sell any stock even if you are a minority holder. The stock price dropped because that is what the market currently thinks its value is. As soon as the glazers consider selling, the market will think its going up. The price of the stock means nothing outside of an outsider estimate at what the club is worth at this moment of time
@apk4381
@apk4381 9 ай бұрын
The only people that matter are the majority shareholders. Not Bob and Deidre with their 4.5 shares for retirement.
@TomBerishaj
@TomBerishaj 9 ай бұрын
No, the class B shares that the Glazers hold are not available on the stock exchange. This is why Sheik Jassim is negotiating with the Glazers and not just buying the club via the stock exchange.
@richardlefaive1944
@richardlefaive1944 9 ай бұрын
Any competent business owner should want their business run well ( E.G. appoints a proper CEO ). The Glazers have not. They've had buffoons ( from a football Ops perspective, not financial ) managing and having final say over player transfer and development INF decisions for 2 decades now. There is literally no excuse for that.
@TheNightMammoth
@TheNightMammoth 9 ай бұрын
He's right on the business aspect bviously but continues to dodge the point that the goal of football is to win, and United have won almost nothing in the last 10 years because of the Glazers. Yes Boehly wants to see a return on investment, and yes petro states want to sports wash their reputations, but they all see winning as the way to do that.
@mhutchinson89
@mhutchinson89 9 ай бұрын
share price affects the shareholders not the majority owner (glazers)
@martysmith2851
@martysmith2851 9 ай бұрын
Danny Liverpool Murphy cant stand to admit United might be the biggest brand name in football, he's desperate to say its Real Madrid
@juanperezpaniagua3601
@juanperezpaniagua3601 9 ай бұрын
Bec its not, real Madrid are way bigger not just a little bigger, way bigger club, way bigger brand, so as Bayern Liverpool and Barcelona. You utd fans are deluded, no one wants to play for utd nowdays
@thedreamer3454
@thedreamer3454 9 ай бұрын
Simion is missing out that their current price of 5 billion is on the premise of them actually being successful again and their brand. That is the ceiling.... If it wasn't they would have pulled the plug already. I think it's them postering...
@chrissilvester5663
@chrissilvester5663 9 ай бұрын
As a Man United fan I hate saying this but Simon has made some very good factual points. Fact is when u buy a brand u aren't buying it 100% straight cash there will always be leveraged debt involved. The Glazers unfortunately aren't daft people they know what they want & unfortunately their shares are very well secure so they can hold out for far more than what the club is worth. I think the what us United fans are most pissed at is the debt they placed on us aswell as the amount of interest we've paid out regarding that debt over 900m which could've been used to upgrade Old Trafford aswell as Carrington. Also we haven't exactly had the right people running the club. If we had a proper DOF that knows what they're doing we wouldn't be as messed up we wouldn't of signed half the players we did on stupid wages etc.
@cosmicbaggy9637
@cosmicbaggy9637 9 ай бұрын
when was the last time ferrari won a f1 constructors championship?
@Keeptrucking-hq9ft
@Keeptrucking-hq9ft 9 ай бұрын
English media twerking for oil money to take over United but complain when players leave to play for oil money 😅
@twyscape
@twyscape 9 ай бұрын
Simple economics. The value of something is what somebody is willing to pay for it.
@JohnDoe-zd9xq
@JohnDoe-zd9xq 9 ай бұрын
Supply and demand. If noone wants to buy then your argument is irrelevant
@davidsmart494
@davidsmart494 9 ай бұрын
Glazers out.. Plunge the stock
@YagaLaughZone
@YagaLaughZone 9 ай бұрын
GLAZZERS IS A NIGHT MARE TO US😅😢
@pauljacobs8810
@pauljacobs8810 9 ай бұрын
Does Jim have any idea what he's talking about? One minute he's arguing if Man United have bigger expectations than Brighton then he's asking how much Real Madrid is worth. All over the place
@slashthebutcher
@slashthebutcher 9 ай бұрын
They haven't said they arnt selling. The Mail did.
@Its_JustKai
@Its_JustKai 9 ай бұрын
To me as a supporter and fan of United this is good news the Glazers have to sell!
@drep9028
@drep9028 9 ай бұрын
Many a Club would bite a hand off to have the success manU had under the Glazer's. If anyone thinks Glazer's selling ManU will immediately return them to dominance is in for a rude awakening
@samwize28
@samwize28 9 ай бұрын
@@drep9028 as a rival fan, would you rather the glazers stay at utd - or that they get sold to an unknown new owner? which would you prefer if you could control it?
@drep9028
@drep9028 9 ай бұрын
@@samwize28 I would prefer the Glazer's leave and be taken over by Everton's owners
@samwize28
@samwize28 9 ай бұрын
@@drep9028 that wasn’t the question. Would you rather the glazers stay, or they are sold to someone else (presumably a 50/50 between Ineos and Qatar)? If the answer is you would rather glazers stay - why on Earth are you defending them if they are objectively bad for the club lol
@drep9028
@drep9028 9 ай бұрын
@@samwize28 then my truest answer is that I really don't care and I don't think it will have that significant impact on Utd within the next 4 years anyway. I think Utd fans are more hoping and dreaming it will same as opposition fans are hoping and dreaming that the Glazer's are the biggest issue and will thus stay. I think both are wrong
@markc266
@markc266 9 ай бұрын
The share price has gone up and down every day since United were listed and its never had this much scrutiny before 🤣
@pauladavies7136
@pauladavies7136 9 ай бұрын
As a Utd fan, I agree with Simon's explanation. It's a business - but the Glazers have made football success a secondary issue
@paulbright821
@paulbright821 9 ай бұрын
The real blame at man United was the previous owners to the Glazers. I have seen many businesses bought and sold, owners should have a responsibility to sell to someone that will do the right things for that business which may not always be the highest bidder. The financing for the club should have been looked at in that they should have said no to anyone who needed to buy something with credit in that way as clearly the business would be paying back the debt not the new owners so you are making the future of the business suffer. The club is more than just assets, their is a brand here and so the fans who love that club deserve to see it treated right. The sale should never have gone ahead, once the glazers had it of course they were going to suck money from it as they are commercial people and not real lovers of the club or even football
@johnm506
@johnm506 9 ай бұрын
How thick is Jim White 😂😂
@TheTaydak
@TheTaydak 9 ай бұрын
just to be clear on what is actually happening the Glazers have no debt the club has the debt and they are not clearing that debt they are paying the interest on the debt to stop it going up but that's all they are doing the debt remains exactly the same as it was and will for as long as the Glazers keep the club. The glaziers and shareholders are getting quarterly dividend from the club and putting the club up for sale did increase the share value it would be interesting to know if they took dividends out of the club at that point and find out if this was a con job all the time just for that purpose.
@BristolMatt
@BristolMatt 9 ай бұрын
Simon better be careful criticising the media. They will come for him no doubt. 😢
@Shsjier
@Shsjier 9 ай бұрын
He's literally a part of the media He's a well known pundit and has a podcast
@phoenix2225
@phoenix2225 9 ай бұрын
Dude he is the media 😂
@BristolMatt
@BristolMatt 9 ай бұрын
@@phoenix2225 What difference does that make? The media will come for a media member who calls them out. Do you think media are untouchable or something?
@phoenix2225
@phoenix2225 9 ай бұрын
@@BristolMatt let me know the last time an established media figure call out another established one in football … I will wait
@BristolMatt
@BristolMatt 9 ай бұрын
@@phoenix2225 the media ganged up on Ronaldo, possibly the greatest footballer of all time the moment he said something negitive about them. You are so deluded if you think they don't bully people and even come for their own. It doesn't even have to be in front of camera, they can end careers behind them. I can't believe people like you exist.
@haamulubechooka6908
@haamulubechooka6908 9 ай бұрын
Danny Murphy looks lost, can't argue with Simon's sharp brainy arguments
@terryjames9535
@terryjames9535 9 ай бұрын
I love the glazers, probably because I'm a 51 year old city fan.. the glazers have zombified the fans that gloried in my misery when my team had no future 😂😂
@barbarohelm9697
@barbarohelm9697 9 ай бұрын
I love that man City get no credit for any of their success .. I love how every football fan talks about them as cheats 😂😂😂
@jamiecummings9666
@jamiecummings9666 9 ай бұрын
Stupid prices for a football club 2.5 billion for Chelsea why.
@PharmacyAve
@PharmacyAve 9 ай бұрын
United is NOT in the conversation with Real Madrid (14 cl titles)
@diddyxl
@diddyxl 9 ай бұрын
It's about brand, global reach, financial juggernauts. If there were a crown with jewels, United would be center right of Madrid.
@juanperezpaniagua3601
@juanperezpaniagua3601 9 ай бұрын
@@diddyxl Madrid is way above them in that matter too. Bayern Liverpool Barcelona are also bigger, and I'd say some other clubs are bigger than man utd
@mhutchinson89
@mhutchinson89 9 ай бұрын
i feel the Glaziers have diminished the value, still one of the biggest clubs in the world commercially but compared to before they was so much further ahead than everyone else
@rhowell1978
@rhowell1978 9 ай бұрын
Emotions have nothing to do with this, just because you 'feel' a certain way doesn’t make it true and did you really think that other clubs wouldn’t eventually catch on and do the same? Football is now a business, of course other clubs would follow and eventually catch up, that has nothing to do with the ownership as they can’t stop anyone copying their business model.
@mnemonija
@mnemonija 9 ай бұрын
Whoever is the buyer, i mean, what kind of sense would it make to pay out the holders of public shares? Just pay for the glazers controlling stake, and let the public markets go wherever. If they collapse, and only then, buy up the rest, but otherwise its a waste of good money to pay the premium price to public shareholders.
@hippocritic
@hippocritic 9 ай бұрын
Football has peaked. It's going to go the same way as the music industry and the film industry. Piracy will kill the revenue stream. It's coming down the track.
@russellward4624
@russellward4624 9 ай бұрын
People have been saying this for 39 years.
@laurenceobrien1402
@laurenceobrien1402 9 ай бұрын
How can he say that United are the biggest club in the world with 3 European cups to their name?? Real Madrid have 14 and have consistently attracted the greatest players in history to play for them Puskas, Di Stefano, Raul, Zidane, R9, CR7 the list goes on and on Barcelona the same....United are the biggest brand in the world
@RUMORSSHADE
@RUMORSSHADE 9 ай бұрын
Simon nfl teams r more than 6b Washington Red Skins just been sold 6b 3 months ago
@godonholiday
@godonholiday 9 ай бұрын
They have spent more than anyone! It’s not just these owners
@MortenHjrnevik-ti6sg
@MortenHjrnevik-ti6sg 9 ай бұрын
Simon is right….share price is simply a measurement a guide and not the true value. Things are worth what people are willing to pay
@BenDPB
@BenDPB 9 ай бұрын
I wont lie I had no idea wtf they were talking about hahahahahahahahahaha
@averagebedroomproducer5008
@averagebedroomproducer5008 9 ай бұрын
At least someone in the media understands
@tyroneraman6395
@tyroneraman6395 9 ай бұрын
Share price only matters to current investors. You can buy on a low price and capitalise on it but who the hell in their right mind will bank on Manure bouncing back.
@nadeemamode
@nadeemamode 9 ай бұрын
Correct. This makes the stock market even more of a joke
@MikeMUFC91
@MikeMUFC91 9 ай бұрын
Manchester United would sell for far more money than Real Madrid if they both went on sale tomorrow. Simply because of the commercial aspect of being in the Premier League. The share price is irrelevant.
@BringBackOle
@BringBackOle 9 ай бұрын
"self entitled fans" 🤦‍♂ our own stadium is falling apart all we ask is a owner that will invest in fixing the club so the club can run it’s self.
@livefromBremenMusicSM
@livefromBremenMusicSM 9 ай бұрын
Simon please advise the glazers to sell… if they sell everyone will be happy … it’s a win win situation for them
@magpies77
@magpies77 9 ай бұрын
Glazers out board the windows up on the dump instead
@aminebahlouli2060
@aminebahlouli2060 9 ай бұрын
in their pea in 2009, Cristiano Ronaldo left Manchester united to join Real madrid that did not cross 16 round of champions league for many years, there is no world in which Manchester united is compared to Real Madrid
@cronaldomufcfan7
@cronaldomufcfan7 9 ай бұрын
You clearly don’t know much about football.
@RIP_Milhouse
@RIP_Milhouse 9 ай бұрын
Market value has no impact upon intrinsic value.
@DarrenSmith-zz6fk
@DarrenSmith-zz6fk 9 ай бұрын
I wonder if the glaziers when short on their stocks
@jamiecummings9666
@jamiecummings9666 9 ай бұрын
The most iconic bed sheet writer's.
@craig1669
@craig1669 9 ай бұрын
United fan here. I'm not happy to say I told you so, but I'm a realist. I get a lot of stick from fellow reds for my opinions but heres how I see the situation. Ask yourself..... why would ANYBODY sell Manchester United? Especially when it's obvious that the club value will only increase with the Saudis Qataris etc starting to invest in football. Even when we're doing terrible for our standards, we STILL generate hundreds of millions of pounds a year. No amount of protests will change that. No boycott will work cos the ticket will get sold to a tourist who will spend hundreds in the shop and around the stadium. Then, factor in that the ONLY reason they would possibly sell is to please the fans. The same fans that celebrated their fathers death and now chant about killing them. Owning MUFC gives unlimited credit around the world and secures the future of every Glazer for generations to come. I believe the banks may have been asking for some assurances on the debt, this whole process would have reassured them comfortably. The debt will be restructured and nothing will change. Possibly a huge loan to pay for the training ground and stadium upgrades, heaping more debt on the club, which the glazers will never personally pay. It's genius business, you have to admit. Considering all this.... Again I ask.... Why would ANYBODY sell Manchester United???
@lagofala
@lagofala 9 ай бұрын
Dont hate the player, hate the game.
@vantheman1238
@vantheman1238 9 ай бұрын
Simon Jordan at his best. Jordan knows business and he is extremely clever and knowledgeable when discussing football. When it comes to boxing my opinion changes; however, on football and the business of football clubs the man is very good and extremely interesting to listen too.
@Bobbysix1
@Bobbysix1 9 ай бұрын
I think Simon is missing the possibility that maybe the people looking to buy are not offering any more than the share price. Manchester United is in somewhat of a financial situation, greenwood-100 million. Anthony possibility -100 million. Sancho possibility-75 million. Stadium need money spending. 500 to 900 million. Also to replace those players. 200 million.
@creepingbrain
@creepingbrain 9 ай бұрын
Ineos and Qatar have both bid about £5.5b. That's three times what the stock market valued the club at before this process started, and double what the stock market currently values the club at.
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