@Richard schiffman Responsibility, cause and effect. You skip class, you get suspended, you don’t show up for your job, you get fired. In your lazy ass mind, do you believe you can coast through life free of any responsibility? Child

@Richard schiffman wow you must be fun 🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦.

That's a trait that seems to fade more and more with each generation. Fewpeople are willing to take responsibility for their actions.

I have to agree. You are responsible for your own actions. Mr. Feeney never gave up on Shawn. Does Feeney get frustrated? Yes he does only because he knows Shawn can make it, but Shawn sometimes gives up and for the first time ever Shawn realizes he can make it.

@Richard schiffman nah

Shawns interest in the beginning was to impress a girl, it had nothing too do with Schopenhauer. (It became about the college paper when the teacher complimented Shawns response towards the question.)

We understand your comment but he refused to join Mr Feeny's class

The Philosopher's boned...

I didn't think of that back then 20 years ago. Now it actually is 100% accurate.

Where has this show been all my life?

How's it possible for a kid/teen to suspend him/herself?You can't fire yourself.

@@seanmontgomery801 You can through your actions.

That’s how he always was when it came to Shawn.

even being a loyal friend can be your undoing I know. had I not realized that I wouldn't have graduated like my friend

Yep

@@symphonyheart1384 that’s true

Not snitching on your friend is not loyalty to a fault

@@ainsleypowell196 that’s the joke

@@ainsleypowell196 its a joke

Shawn thinks they all look alike.... nothing like some 90's racism, the good ol days!

@@PunishedPrinceYaka Yes Mate

How was he supposed to know?

Agreed. They did a great job striking a balance between portraying him as compassionate and strict. He cares but even a remotely flippant remark in his classroom will not be tolerated, and that's the way it should be.

Exactly

This was often prominent in cartoons, especially children's cartoons, because of the "Rule of Funny" and "Idiot Plot".

Definitely

That's the reason or one of them why I worship the show.

No favoritism? He followed Cory and his friends from middle school, to high school, to college.

@@help4343 because he believed in them

Cory deserved to be chewed out too for aiding and abetting and needing a rude awakening that he and Shawn COULD not be as thick as thieves after High School

@@Bull1908 Yup. He couldn't protect Shawn and couldn't keep bailing him out.

@@podsmpsg1 this was an episode that was going to make or break Shawn's future. He showed he was lazy clipping coupons in HS class while Cory kept trying to bail him out, while later Shawn showed potential as a good college writer yet HS basics writing were Garbage. Also Cory ranted and maybe couldn't handle not spending college or future without Shawn.

@@Bull1908 Yup.

I agree but later Sean admitted he was wrong and he should have shown more respect to Mr Fenny.

It was a lesson he had to learn.

Definitely

Back then you didn't, now you can.

Feeny refused to have a open discussion about this with Shawn and then suspends him for no reason at all. Because Shawn has every right to stay in college without going back to high school.

@@thefighter5182 Oh? He paid tuition to be in college? He finished high school, making it possible for him to attend said college? No and no.

"WHO IS DA MASSSTAAA!??"

@@Wolf10media SHO' NUFF!!😂😂 The Shogun Of Harlem!!!

Also he was Sho' Nuff from "The Last Dragon" 1985 film starring Vanity.

True

Wait, Mr. Feeny has a first name? I still call him Mr. Feeny in other shows.

You just made me realize that one of best characters from my childhood, I didn't even know his first name.

The teacher every millennial who watched this show wishes they had. ❤

Yeah Its George. Mr. Mathews calls him that all the time whenever they talk in the backyard.

He's always Mr. Feeny. KITT doesn't sound like William Daniels, he sounds like Mr. Feeny.

Reginald VelJohnson actually played a police officer in an episode of Girl Meets World called "True Maya".

Then I honestly think Mr Feeny is wrong. Because you can't suspend someone for not refusing to go to class. Because in Shawn's defense he was studying philosophy on Schopenhauer. Because Mr Feeny can't exercise Shawn's free will when he isn't in class. Because that's my honest opinion.

@@thefighter5182 Shawn was taking a (College exam on high school grounds where he is still a high schooler himself , correct? Mr feeny is the acting teacher/principal at George Hamilton high... is he not? Mr feeny gave shawn a choice to come too class and Shawn refuses too do so ( exercising his own free will) so this leaves Mr. feeny with two options and that is too either suspend shawn or detain him after school hours. Having Free will? Doesn’t excuse anyone from Not following the rules.

@MikeFIT It's easy for you to take Feeny's side here. Because it's like you're dismissing Shawn for taking a (College exam on high school grounds) even though Shawn is in college while studying philosophy about Schopenhauer. But clearly you're in the wrong too even though Shawn wasn't refusing to do anything. Because being told what to do isn't exercising free will!

I didn't see it as an a-hole move by Feeny Cory and Topanga knew where Shawn was and they kept making excuses for him. They were not helping Shawn they were enabling his bad behavior they chose to cover for Shawn and forced them to reflect on their actions. By punishing the entire class he finally got them to tell him where Shawn was so his frustration is justified.

@@manoftomorrow79 what about any kids that had no connection to Shawn, Corey, or Tappanga and were being nothing but respectful and attentive in class that suddenly get slammed with this gigantic essay because of their actions? What’s their recourse now? Are they going to turn on Shawn? No, they aren’t with him. Are they going to give the three students that got them in trouble the silent treatment? Maybe, but they never talked anyway so what’s the difference? Only a-hole teachers use the punish everyone method. And it’s always the innocent students who don’t have anything to do with the bullies that get screwed over the worst! It doesn’t matter how hard they work or how good they are in class they get punished because the teacher is either to lazy to discover the real trouble maker, somehow lives under the delusion that hurting the victims along with the bullies will deter bullies that hurt victims for fun, or just like to take out their frustration over the accumulation of all their poor life choices on the kids in their care.

@@christianmarshal6117 found the snow flake millennial of the herd. Shut up.

@@manoftomorrow79 Punishing all to get at one or a few is an a-hole move. Even if you rationalize it, your just rationalizing being an a-hole.

This was the one time it really seemed like over the top punishment by Feeney. I think it had something to do with his anger and frustration towards shawn skipping and him caring for him. Feeney after all was human too and not perfect.

@@ainsleypowell196 I know. It was a joke.

Just because Eric is his biological brother don't always mean they have that kind of relationship.

@payday64 Sometimes, Shawn was mostly a taker.

@@JRMAV1 what do you give when you have nothing to give? And if u have nothing and something is offered don’t you take? A homeless person is less likely to be able to put money in your cup cuz he ain’t got nothing, but if u as a decently well off person offer him cash he’ll take it.

They should’ve made this character get drunk then accidentally get lured into gay bar where he gets assraped several times in the alleyway.

When I was a kid my Mom told me something I will never forget: If I didn't care about you I would let you do whatever you wanted to.

Gentleman

@@samanthasims7123 Oh yea👍 Good catch!

May he rest in peace. Julius was a great character actor.

OMFG THAT IS HIM😃😃😃😁😁😁

When I say “who’s the master? You say Sho-Nuff”.. my favorite movie 🎥

LEEROY you warmed up yet!!

Wow I didn’t notice that

Wait he was shogun? Omg I never realized

Am I the meanest? Am I the prettiest?

Sho'nuff

He started teaching philosophy after losing to Leroy.

He didn't punish Cory because Shawn didn't show up. He punished him for lying about it. He punished Topanga for not seeing the logic behind his discipline. Then he punishes the class to stress how serious he is about his stance.

Did you watch the scene? He asked where Shawn was and Cory refused to tell him multiple times. And since the entire class knew, they were also refusing to tell him.

​@@fandomking8939And? It's called minding your own business. You want to know where someone is, ask that person when you see them. Feeny was being petty here. Even moreso when Topanga pointed it out. Had I been in that class I would not have done the assignment. And my grandmother would've backed me on it.

​@@stevem437There was no logic in punishing the class because Topanga pointed out how he was *WRONG.*

@@Lord_Bibulous You definitely come off as someone who is being raised by a grandparent

Shawn hunter was well within his rights too exercise his “Free Will”- just as Mr. feeny is privileged to do the same. Only difference is shawn is the student and Mr. feeny is his teacher and shawn was given an opportunity to avoid being disciplined! instead he took the high road and gotten himself suspended. (Free will is not a pass to excuse one self from disobeying an order, or one too disregard rules altogether) unless such an individual is more then prepared to face the consequences of their own decision makings. Lesson learned, for Mr. hunter.

You know, so far, you seem like the philosophical right-or-wrong debater type I could discuss something with. I know a guy from work; let's call him Scott. He's a college man l find immature, kind of obnoxious, and sometimes tactless. I think he just like to kid around, but it's not always so obvious to me. For example, he once mentioned a coworker's sagging belly, face-to-face. I don't _think_ said coworker resented that, but in general, you _have_ to be careful with weight jokes. He was the same coworker Scott snuck up behind and poked in the waists. I don't think the worker minds him, but I would personally. He dissed my hair a couple of times, though I will admit the 1st time his girlfriend said he was just having fun with me. Still, I guess I officially decided he's nothing more than a jack@ss, who pretty much has no feelings; the more you clown around, the harder you can be taken seriously. That's why I told him to _"put a sock in your @ss...I mean your mouth."_ See, I was about to tell a coworker something when Scott interrupted me, I think with some clownish comment or joke. I can't remember. It wasn't a _casual or natural_ interruption; otherwise I wouldn't have faulted him. I guess I was annoyed with the _way_ he interrupted me, and because I'd already decided he's the unlikeable type. I would've thought he wouldn't care about my sass--given the natural point of view that immature guys don't have fragile feelings--but he said something about how I should be careful how I speak to people. Maybe _certain_ people? He's _ironically_ a student leader. I can't remember his response so well, but either way, he vaguely showed he didn't care for my words. I wasn't 100% sure though, because his type don't make it obvious whether they're being serious or not. In the end, I said, _"Hey, I'm sorry for saying [said quote]."_ From what I remember, he replied, _"You're good man_ [which made me feel good]. _You just need to learn how to speak to people"_ [which _immediately_ made me feel bad and _swiftly_ ended my one-second good feeling]. I don't appreciate his adding the "learn how to speak to people" thing, because that's like saying "I forgive you for being a thoughtless jerk." You shouldn't add a negative truth to an apology acceptance, because otherwise, it defeats its own purpose. Plus, I think his remark was hypocritical; yes, I have a problem with filter, but duh, he does too. I think it's better I just don't talk to him at all. No interaction, no conflict, no jokes, no nothing.

Then you were lied to.

Absolutely because he needs to know that everything comes with a price and that his actions have consequences

RIP

Same, actor different character.

@@ainsleypowell196 no shit lmao

How so? I would be interested to hear reasoning as I never saw them as entitled

​@Rkay421 you can't just do what you want to do and think there won't be consequences. He skips class to attend a college class and when he gets caught him and Corey are all butt- hurt that he got suspended. And the whining, especially Corey, he wines about everything

@@coreykindle5892 he made a mistake. Shawn had been known to make those alot when it comes to school. He went to a college course and when he impressed the professor like he was smart and didn’t need high school. Corey was just born a loyal friend knowing if Shawn stays suspended he won’t get to college for real and get demotivated to even try accepting the mindset that people like him don’t go to college when Corey knows Shawn is capable of so much if given a chance and he felt Feeny was robbing Shawn of that chance even if Shawn did deserve it. I wouldn’t call that entitlement

@@Rkay421 he made a mistake? A mistake is when you accidentally do something without much time to think about it. I guarantee you he gave his decision to skip school and sneak into college classes alot of thought. Corey knew the consequences as well and a true friend would've advised against him doing so. A true friend would've told him he knows he's capable of more but ditching high-school isn't the way to go about this and you still want to do it then I want no part of this plan. I'm not going to support stupidity just because he's my friend. Unfortunately, Corey supports his dumbass idea and they both get pissy when Shawn is caught because " but you can't suspend Shawn in his senior year". Oh ok so because it's his senior year he should just let Shawn do what he wants? Because they've all known each other so long??? Entitled

@@coreykindle5892 well I disagree but I don’t want to escalate things so I will leave with this you do you and I’ll do me and we don’t do each other (in other words we both have our own opinion but let’s leave it at that)

And also a hearing is required...

Fun fact he is the principal

@@yevgeniyzharinov7473 a hearing wasn’t required in the 90s. And every state has its own rules.

You are wrong. A hearing was required since the supreme court ruled goss v Lopez in 1975. What is more, the fourteenth amendment applies to every state.

Ehh...this time around I'd give him a C. Majority of percentage for allowing Shawn to explain the first time, and following up on a penalty and school policy. He loses my 30% for that assignment add-on to his entire class for chest-thumping purposes. He should've asked to see Cory after class if Shawn was in trouble again. Then he could've said, "Mr. Matthews, when I'm on the clock I attend to my students' performance. When they're not performing I take stock as principal and instructor in their welfare. You can be a roadblock or a gateway to Mr. Hunter's wellbeing, but I'm bound towards the truth regardless."

He had to. He can't give him any special treatment. He has to be fair, which he was.

@@podsmpsg1 Ehhh I'd consider halting the class to go confront Shawn himself qualifies as ST. From a mentor based perspective, which is a good hook...but the lack of mutual resolve on both sides stunts the scene. Feeny's legendary, but...I think you're drinkin the framing Kool-Aid.

Aren't there steps teachers and principals have to go through before suspension?

@@mattbartolovich8228 teachers often don't have the power to suspend on their own. They can recommend to administration. Administrators likewise don't have the power to permanently expel or forcibly transfer students to other schools by themselves. They can recommend to the area superintendent and/or school board

Yeah but here he wasn't being fair. Shawn is Shawn, Cory is Cory. Why is Cory getting blamed and punished for Shawn's actions? Then the class gets punished for Topanga pointing it out? Feeny is usually so right about things, but this was petty.

@BOS37631 Agreed and He’s Also The Principal of The School Besides Being a High School Teacher!

Or they only people that care are insane nitpickers

Mr. feeny is the authority in the matter. He’s the teacher he has that right! and Shawn chose to exercise his free will to not attend class ( which he is privileged to do) leaving feeny with no other option but to discipline shawn. Seems fair too me.

shonuff

Who's the wisest! Shonuff! who's the smartest! Shonuff!

Technically Mr. Pheeny was a principal. So he could have done it.

No, he skipped for a girl. Watch the scene.

@@fandomking8939 I *LITERALLY* said "hidden agenda." While I'm watching the scene (again), read the comment

While I agree it seems stupid to punish him for it he was technically still skipping class he was actually assigned to which is grounds for suspension. Friend couldn’t be a friend there he had to be the teacher and teach Shawn a lesson. I do agree though it is funny to think of someone skipping class to go to a more advanced class that you are not supposed to be in.

I see the whole Trans Am.

WAIT...he's the voice of KITT? I never realized that until now and now I cannot unhear him as KITT.

Feely was also on the medical Drama St. Elsewhere that also starred a young Denzel Washington.

believe it or not, college professors actually enjoy that kinda stuff in real life. its crazy

Lmao

John Adams In 1776 the musical

@@shawnmichaelduncan5951 Yes, loved him in that movie as well

Right 😭😭

No that’s Sho’Nuff

@@sbrooks729 same thing lol

College professor. ( LOL joke ) I just wanted to do what the so called keyboard warriors do but yes same person different characters.

I too thought he looked like Angela's dad! Lol 😆

Fat knockers on Topanga

Sadly.

Is philosophy hard

He’s a No Nonsense Guy Here For a School Teacher and The Principal!