SlackSnap: Woodgrip vs Linegrip - what's the best grip for your highline and slackline rig
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6 жыл бұрынThe Slackline WoodGrip by Kyriakos Kyriakakis goes up against the time tested beloved G4 Linegrip. The WoodGrip is 2.5x lighter and 4x cheaper but is it just as strong? This is also an open source project so Kyriakos shows how he makes it (thank you George Economou for filming it) and the beta can be found at drive.google.com/file/d/1G0px...
(Thank you Anthony Chandler for the PORTUGUESE and Aharon Khachatryan for the Russian subtitles!)
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@HowNOT2 8 ай бұрын
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@Eric-zp7ze 5 жыл бұрын
Free-handing, which is to say cutting wood on a table saw without a t-square or fence-can result in pieces of wood thrown at very high speeds taking off your fingers or eyes such that you can longer slackline or highline. Which is why YOU should not use a table saw.
@bryanbeck2144 4 жыл бұрын
How not to use power tools.
@JasperJanssen 3 жыл бұрын
Those pieces of wood clearly need a bandsaw.
@bclark728 3 жыл бұрын
Almost lost a finger this way in middle school shop. Don't do it.
@atariks1475 2 жыл бұрын
Or the thing with the measuring tape. I already saw it getting sucked into the machine table by the blade.
@ASR_385 2 жыл бұрын
This is How NOT to woodwork. The industrial grinder he was using for sanding also can remove a lot of flesh in seconds and should be clamped down at the VERY least. People can do what they like, but this breaks almost every safety rule for a shop. I hope he still has all his appendages. Scary! @HowNOT2 you may want to add a disclaimer about this, since you talk safety and safety factors all the time. This is like taking a whipper on paracord and just hoping it holds, great idea, extremely unsafe execution.
@BaitUC 2 жыл бұрын
Respect to Kyriakos, one of the most skilled and helpful guys in the greek slackline community! Sadly his wood grips aren't available any more.
@stevevanpelt4475 6 жыл бұрын
This is life changing. Thanks for posting
@ElseeKay 3 жыл бұрын
fun thing about wood apoxy, it's often stronger than the wood it's holding together
@climbtrees1045 6 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if you remember but when you launched your patreon a while back I commented that once I had a steady source of income I would help support, well today is that day!! I used money I saved up to buy a G5 linegrip for an early birthday present for myself (tomorrow (8/18)) but just saw this video now. Oh well, the linegrip should last, anyway thank you again for always keeping us informed and sharing the stoke that keeps this community so vibrant. I plan on heading to the fruit bowl this spring for my first GGBY Festival! Hope to see you there! -Paul C
@HowNOT2 6 жыл бұрын
Climb Trees awesome Paul. Thank you. You will like the G5, you know it wont fly away and hit you in the face when you are tensioning longlines haha. Your donations really help. I just dropped 200 more bucks onto just 2 shackles so i can break some pretty big stuff haha. It really helps to have people like you helping out so Kim doesnt nag me about spending so much haha. If you are ever near lodi ca swing on by!
@HowNOT2 6 жыл бұрын
Climb Trees see you at GGBY... we are rigging the worlds most complex 4 layer net! :)
@climbtrees1045 6 жыл бұрын
Such absolute stoke right now. I'm beaming hahah Can't wait!!
@FlipBookWorks 5 жыл бұрын
thank you ryan!
@LeafLifeAndBriar 6 жыл бұрын
Full respect to the wood grip. Just curious, can you do a breaking test with the broken wood grip.
@HowNOT2 6 жыл бұрын
mohit tanwar i can... but we are also testing other variations soon. Im sure we can make this thing pretty strong. Where i epoxied the broken piece on is probably the strongest part of the entire woodgrip now! Haha
@LeafLifeAndBriar 6 жыл бұрын
See I dint realize that. You have a wider base of knowledge. I would leave the decisions to you. Keep the excellent content chugging .
@HowNOT2 6 жыл бұрын
mohit tanwar we are trying it with the grain direction the other way and trying lamintated plywood with grain changed at every layer. I'm hoping for 15kn mbs
@user-zz8ln3uh5x 4 жыл бұрын
@@HowNOT2 I heard an anecdote of a martial arts class pre-breaking boards and gluing them back together with the mistaken impression that they'd be easier to break. They were basically finding the weakest part of the board and making it the strongest : ) Apparently their new technique was to just use a couple dots of glue.
@WilliamPandaHough 2 жыл бұрын
@@HowNOT2 is there a video for the grain direction facing the other way?? Can't find it :)
@Roadkill3120 4 жыл бұрын
perhaps you can somehow cross the lines on the outside of the wood-thingie, to keep the wood together? (just thinking loud..)
@pavlodeshko 3 жыл бұрын
Hi, you've tested wooden linegrip with fibers properly oriented and it performed well. Dont you think this deserves an update?
@lleberghappy 3 жыл бұрын
So the wood grip could be made much stronger with for example a couple of bolts running through it from side to side. Strengthening the wood from splitting that is the weak link.
@flowish 5 жыл бұрын
Also it would make a nice way to grip a hammock on the line :) I also made a grip myself and posted a video so anyone can make it. Its designed for a hammock so it wouldnt be as strong but it would still be interesting to get some numbers if you're up for it...
@HowNOT2 5 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see what you have and I'm more than happy to break it :).
@flowish 5 жыл бұрын
HowNOTtoHIGHLINE Thanks! I'll try to make you one when get back to my workshop... Whenever that will be... dunno yet :)
@HowNOT2 5 жыл бұрын
@@flowish no prob. Im about 4 weeks away from having my new slacksnap machine.
@aaab6054 4 жыл бұрын
Your video was awesome and I liked that you included Aharon Khachatryan's video on how to make Woodgrips, but could you please normalize the audio the song playing was very loud.
@theoprln3277 Жыл бұрын
Hey, do you think a bigger version of this could be nice for tricklining ?
@TNW1337 4 жыл бұрын
Change the wood grain to go on a angle to the webing/am steal Will even out the strength of wood.
@domjax 4 жыл бұрын
TechNitWit that’s what I was going to say.
@TNW1337 4 жыл бұрын
@@domjax Or you could go and get boards with different grains, use water proof Epoxy Glue. and change the Grains on ech Ply level. Then forum the shape. Would be no different then a Lam beam. Or as others will call them engineered beam. You could also get a cut off of a Engineered beam and make it out of them.
@JasperJanssen 3 жыл бұрын
TechNitWit or, you know, just use plywood. Same thing.
@truenorthtransparency5230 4 жыл бұрын
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6 жыл бұрын
wouldn't it be less prone to break if the wood-fibre was crosswise to the webbing? nice stuff otherwise
@HowNOT2 6 жыл бұрын
We are going to test that but some fear it could break in half the other direction
@constantinosschinas4503 5 жыл бұрын
the cord embraces and supports the fibers when they are used in the lateral direction, theoretically making it a lot less breakable. 45 degree fibers (to the longitudinal axis, now it is 90), while maintaining original longitudinal fibers also makes it way sturdier. we shall see.
@HowNOT2 5 жыл бұрын
I have plywood and cross grain versions of this now and will test in a week or two. Looking forward to how it breaks (if it breaks) :)
@orenchakon9501 4 жыл бұрын
I've tried making one on my own and I can't find a vibram strap nowhere, any idea where to look?
@HowNOT2 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know. Hit up Kyriakos Kyriakakis on fb
@williamtomlinson85 4 жыл бұрын
The most dangerous thing in this video is all the power tool abuse. FFS!
@flowish 5 жыл бұрын
Nice coverage :) one important thing to know is that wood charectarics change A LOT when it's wet. I wonder how it's strength would change exposed to the rain or after mistakenly dropped in the water :(
@HowNOT2 5 жыл бұрын
Do you think it will get weaker or stronger when wet?
@flowish 5 жыл бұрын
HowNOTtoHIGHLINE It would would definitely get SOFTER. But than my experience shows that softer wood doesnt break as dry one just deforms... Hard to tell :)
@francoisjacobsz7583 3 жыл бұрын
Would the wood grip be stronger if the grain of the wood is 90 degrees to the webbing?
@capslock9031 8 ай бұрын
Yes.
@felo92 6 жыл бұрын
I've been using the aurrera from ambaradam for years and it works just fine. You probably know about it. But If you didn't know, now you know. (biggie outto)
@HowNOT2 6 жыл бұрын
Looks pretty good. It looks sold out at the moment but it seems to a good option for a cheaper grip.
@winstondrivein 3 жыл бұрын
How do you use the black beads on the wall! 😆
@matthieunuez1043 5 жыл бұрын
How about building the wood grip with the grain of the wood oriented 90 degrees from the slackline ? It would brake from tensil stress but how much force ?
@HowNOT2 5 жыл бұрын
Did one like this and it snaped in half the other way a lot quicker. I have a plywood one now where grains are opposite at every layer... but i dont want to break it :)
@matthieunuez1043 5 жыл бұрын
@@HowNOT2 it snaped on the bottom ? Mabye one side 90 degrees and the other one 0 degrees. The plywood seems a good ideal, its more isotrope
@matthieunuez1043 5 жыл бұрын
@@HowNOT2 it snaped on the bottom ? Mabye one side 90 degrees and the other one 0 degrees. The plywood seems a good ideal, its more isotrope
@HowNOT2 5 жыл бұрын
PM me at facebook.com/ryan.jenks.35 ... i'll send you video of other grip breaking
@pappafritto 4 жыл бұрын
what's the fun in saying kilo-new-tent? I start seeing fun in this already, but still WHY
@magnumpunch Жыл бұрын
Protip: regular woodglue on a snapped wood surface makes a stronger bond than the wood itself. No sanding, no epoxy. Mathias Wandel teaches.
@andersbodin1551 3 жыл бұрын
they could have made the wood grips stronger by orienting the grain of the wood across the line
@sp10sn Жыл бұрын
It might be grippier, but imo those tensions require structural strength provided lengthwise. The holes make up for grip... if he had mixed the epoxy properly.
@raymondparis360 5 жыл бұрын
Love your videos bro! But 200-300M in the park dangerous? Livin life on the edge mane
@HowNOT2 5 жыл бұрын
I dont slackline longer than 100 meters down low, but there are a bunch of people that do. It is risky for sure.
@raymondparis360 5 жыл бұрын
@@HowNOT2 yeah living in Florida, the flatest place on earth, im forced to rig 10- 20ft high in trees for some high tension 100- 300M lines. Definitely risky lol
@HowNOT2 5 жыл бұрын
@@raymondparis360 go 20 feet higher and then use a leash ;)
@raymondparis360 5 жыл бұрын
@@HowNOT2 highlines/midlines are scary! Lol jk... you are right though
@singingbowels 6 жыл бұрын
Show there!!!! The guy's hands and fingers are way too close to the table was blade. I had to have fingers reattached after an accident. It's agonising and unnecessary. Also that table was blade should have a crown guard on it. If the blade kicks the wood out, its fingers off or face smashed in and off to the ER. I've seen it, it happens easily and suddenly. It's safety 101 - especially for a YT channel.Rest of the film was fascinating and as usual high quality.
@JasperJanssen 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that guy is clearly a climber/highliner, not a woodworker.
@DeUser1337 2 жыл бұрын
I seriously think the grain orientation is wrong. It split along the grain. If you build it with sideways grain it will be much stronger.
@shantahsieh4833 4 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy plans from woodprix.
@Zcalvin224 Жыл бұрын
Get some made of osage orange wood itll never break.
@Bryan_Mayo 6 жыл бұрын
Kilonewtons
@choonwahyee9101 5 жыл бұрын
Spend more money on the metal 's are better than the diy's grip 's ! Life's
@Mack_Dingo 2 жыл бұрын
What about making it out of high quality birch plywood?
@michaelkelly9620 4 жыл бұрын
you can do many things but carpentry is not one brother
@jolllyroger1 4 жыл бұрын
Make em out of delrin.. or nylon....... If it breaks you might not be here to fix it
@Jped277 4 жыл бұрын
That woodgrip would be much much stronger if you simply drilled 4 holes across the grain inside the rope and glue in some dowels or aluminum pins. Would have prevented the wood from splitting on the grain.
@HowNOT2 4 жыл бұрын
it might actually break the wood but not catastrophically
@Jped277 4 жыл бұрын
@@HowNOT2 possibly. I'm not sure tho if u had cross grain dowels , it may slip before breaking then.
@dereksantavenere2172 Жыл бұрын
hey ryan appreciate all you do however- you might want to preface NEVER USE A TABLE SAW LIKE THAT!!! also tight bond wood glue would actually be better than that epoxy as it would penetrate the pours better and if anyone is going to make one of those things using a wood with closed grain structure (like maple for example) would be better and still easily available at big box stores
@dwightwalden8253 Жыл бұрын
Make them out of used skateboards.
@glideamerica Жыл бұрын
Instead of wood, use any metal, like aluminum, for example, so it wont split apart.
@archibaldtuttle8481 4 жыл бұрын
Great idea - as a DIY. But I would not consider selling them without laboratory testing and certification. Liability could be unbearable. Trying to think of any wood species I would trust... An alternative material might be '000 Steel wool' in an epoxy matrix cast in mold material of your choice. But do not sell them unless you can get somebody to insure you for liability.
@Alvinyokatori 2 жыл бұрын
Pls reply to this comment or don’t
@enumclawbmx 6 жыл бұрын
very cool product but suck it up people buy a linegrip one and done!!!!
@HowNOT2 6 жыл бұрын
Jack Smith if you make $30 a day and it cost you $400usd with import tax... it isnt that easy.
@HowNOT2 6 жыл бұрын
Jack Smith also, im never hiking with my linegrip again because this thing and the snatch are so light. Linegrip is great if you are a longliner... in a first world country haha
@enumclawbmx 6 жыл бұрын
ahhhh yess you're so right i keep forgetting we live in a Disneyland country compared to the rest of the globe, i was aiming more at thee lower 48 people... and right again its alot less "clunky" than a line grip changin minds everyday Ryan way to support everyone!
@Estereos 2 жыл бұрын
No, no, no. Here is some advise from woodworker: The oak, he used for making those things must be 1. stabilized. there are many different solutions on the market. many are used specially to fill up the oak to make it 5-10 times stronger. FYI, oak has a lot of air in the fiber. 2. Enforced with dowels drilled and glued in cross the wood fiber.
@danielegerussi7453 2 жыл бұрын
The amount of wrong things the guy is doing in the video with the wood tools is alarming btw... By wrong i mean dangerous, he's risking eyes and a couple fingers easily, i appreciate the effort and it looks well built, safe and strong but the risks are so high with some of that
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