Snapdragon X Elite vs M3 vs Intel - R.I.P. x86 Laptops!
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Ай бұрынIntel's x86 chips have dominated the PC space up until Apple's M1 revolutionized the laptop industry.
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@MaxTechOfficial Ай бұрын
THIS is the ARM Laptop you should buy right now ($50 OFF) ➡ geni.us/qk6qhg
@pritamshuvro8767 Ай бұрын
Sir please give me a M3 MacBook air 15 😊
@Yusufyusuf-lh3dw Ай бұрын
Qualcomm is entering the pc market, not at the best time. (Ignoring previous releases). If they entered PC market in 2019 or 2020, it would have been a different story. Now for Apple there is M series chips and intel has already come out of their 10nm debacle. The core ultra series seems quite impressive and the next core ultra (lunar lake and arrow Lake) are around the corner. There is very little that we can gain by going to Qualcomm now. Secondly, for Qualcomm, it's going to be a real struggle now with application compatibility. Nobody buys a laptop for the benchmark scores.
@DukenukemX Ай бұрын
Would make an expensive door stop.
@songoku9094 Ай бұрын
@@Yusufyusuf-lh3dw seriously dude ? current core ultra doesn't pose any threat to this new Qualcomm cpu. The only advantage Intel has is the support of applications and games their product has on windows
@froxkun Ай бұрын
Maybe if they release it in an Android Tablet like ipad m2 🤔
@jamiermathlin Ай бұрын
I am an Apple guy, for good reasons, however having an ARM windows chip is great news, as Max says it will keep Apple focused. We all remember 10 years of no progress from Intel because they dominated the market, completion is good for us all !
@Noname12........641 Ай бұрын
how can u live without customisation and the fact that you dont own the hardware u use
@richertz Ай бұрын
@@Noname12........641if machines can be decently setup and specced right there should be no need for customisation. However I think as arm chips continue to develop you’ll get more options in the future if demand is high enough.
@Noname12........641 Ай бұрын
@@richertzyep thats what expected from the apple users no need for customisation seriously
@richertz Ай бұрын
@@Noname12........641I’m a windows user 😅 I just use my time better
@jamiermathlin Ай бұрын
@@Noname12........641 that sounds like someone who has not lived and worked with apple ! I have both Windows and Apple machines, right tool for the right job, games and graphics based software, windows everytime, creation, productivity, video editing, photos and work, Apple, no crashing, everything just works. The video editing is in another league 🙂
@KarthikMumadi Ай бұрын
Linux will take this chips to another level
@user-ml3tk6yt3m Ай бұрын
why ?
@clemenslangenberger4791 Ай бұрын
Only if there's proper support by Qualcomm. So far Linux on ARM seems to be mostly happening on single board computers.
@ourmarkas Ай бұрын
@@user-ml3tk6yt3m linux is faster than windows, faster read & write
@7thgenz Ай бұрын
@@clemenslangenberger4791Linux happened on M1
@Sheerwinter Ай бұрын
@@ourmarkasyup linux is good for development, and open-source environment. :) we can optimise this chip on linux for apps. This is a good chip which helps us linux users to move to laptop environment.
@VitiateTheImmortal Ай бұрын
Snapdragon got a bright future
@inamulbhuyan Ай бұрын
Yes Snapdragon X Elite ❤❤
@caucasia_lucas Ай бұрын
Only if software follows
@Ilost11 Ай бұрын
Apple has a much better eco-system to rope in developers. If there isn't a protocol in hardware/software to get good x86 performance on non native ARM apps it will be junk. All of which Apple had at launch. Microsoft launched the original surface on ARM more than a decade ago and even had ARM variants of windows. Yet despite more than a decade of developing on ARM and having first adopters advantage they're still far behind the curve in software. I trust Qualcomm a lot more with hardware than I trust windows to get their software optimized for ARM near term.
@Noname12........641 Ай бұрын
nvidia is also coming to the arm
@oKokimaru Ай бұрын
brighter than my future
@fumblerooskie Ай бұрын
This is a very good thing. Apple needs direct competition to keep it from turning into Adobe.
@magicstarfish Ай бұрын
I think the benchmarks should compare with similar TDP processors.
@itsacookie1 Ай бұрын
I hope Microsoft takes ARM builds seriously and the rest of the industry follows. After using a Apple M chip laptop its near impossible to go back to x86 laptops that run hot, loud and have terrible battery life.
@rolih6 Ай бұрын
Tell me one windows producr that they were trend setters and industry followed them? The only good thing from microsoft is their ms office since everyone is locked in in word and excel and compatibility with SAP.. if they would not have it everyone would be on mac.. and we will see how this will evolve once everything goes on cloud.
@Gin2341 Ай бұрын
@@rolih6 DirectX for gaming, till this day you can't still play triple A games on a Macbook
@ahqsoftwares 21 күн бұрын
It is indeed taking arm seriously now
@xaiphersk5687 21 күн бұрын
@@Gin2341Bro, mac can run baldur's gate 3.
@Gin2341 20 күн бұрын
@@ahqsoftwares you mean it runs like shit even at low settings with fsr performance mode
@binhtranquoc8777 Ай бұрын
If snapdragon CPU could use Graphic card from nvidia or AMD then Apple will be in trouble !
@ataytaygaraev4298 Ай бұрын
I prefer longer battery life over graphic performance. Hope they will come with MUX switch
@esbanfx5876 Ай бұрын
If possible
@GesuCrypto Ай бұрын
@@ataytaygaraev4298 for gaming it will need good GPU
@evancycles Ай бұрын
That assumes, Apple and others are going to stand still. I agree better Arm chips are coming to Windows, and will alter the landscape. However, I am mindful of these KZfaq videos sensationalizing everything for views.
@e5211 Ай бұрын
@@ataytaygaraev4298 graphics can stay idle until required, so battery isn't really an issue. only thing would be weight.
@rg975 Ай бұрын
I doubt it will be any more powerful than the m3’s, but the fact that windows users finally get access to good arm chips is good to see. Competition is what we need in desktop/laptop arm CPUs, it will push Apple to make them even better, massive consumer W
@robertbolzicco9995 Ай бұрын
A decent answer that's not fanboy apple or windows. Competition is good, I agree. I want to see more arm windows laptops. Everyone knew x86 was aging like milk but so many things depend on it working flawless it was hard to change. Apple could make the switch be ause they didn't power anything but apps on the laptop and word.... Easy to change the game when you're basically not in it as a real player. I mean they had marketshare but it wasn't for business or productivity. They made the switch easily and it worked. Let's hope intel/amd/Qualcomm do the same and jump on the arm movement.
@Noname12........641 Ай бұрын
they dont need to be better they just need to be more affordable people will choose windows over mac any day
@robertbolzicco9995 Ай бұрын
@@Noname12........641 mac is or was a status symbol. You have people on social.assictance.bying mac to be cool but can't buy food. They buy it just to look at facebook and snapchat and google docs. It's sad.
@divyanshbhutra5071 Ай бұрын
Windows is still trashbag of an OS. Even Qualcomm used Linux scores for their presentations.
@EverRusting Ай бұрын
I honestly don't care about these laptops but I want these chips to be in handheld gaming devices like Legion Go
@alsimplicio Ай бұрын
Ok…in a “Lab environment” the chips look great….what about “real life use”? That we will have to wait…
@fidelisitor8953 Ай бұрын
Lab environment?! I bet you'd do great in a circus. Lab tests many at times don't show the true performance of chips. Some optimizations here and there with some driver updates can make the X Elite perform even better than in this “lab environment”.
@regicoco904 Ай бұрын
@@fidelisitor8953 Lab tests don't show true performance. It's always optimistic performance
@mwat22 Ай бұрын
Windows pcs don't care about aesthetics so heat sinks will be adequate that's for sure
@pranavsharma7479 Ай бұрын
Lab environment thats a proper pc that is being used
@Jackson33oroToro Ай бұрын
Wow, I would love to see that. Thanks for the content!
@ahaimes6320 Ай бұрын
I did not see performance per watt or efficiency. The lack of data suggests something may be less exciting . Of course, by having 12 performance cores, 50% more than the M3 chip it would be a shocker if the multicore score was not better! I do not think Apple is worried about this. Maybe Intel, but they have been worried for years due to their poor record of upgrades over the last 5-7 years. Then we have to understand these tests are done in perfect condition on reference devices with fans and large casing probably with max RAM and the fastest SSD. When we test with Macs with the same configs when in a retail unit running on Windows in real world tests maybe with non-ARM software, then the reality may not be as rosy.
@shitvideoquality4856 Ай бұрын
Exactly, that’s what I’m most curious about. In the cinebench multi core test what matter the most in this situations is not how many score you can get out of it, because anyone can just clock up or put more cores in. Rather it’s more about performance per watt
@jeanbaptistelabelle Ай бұрын
That is why the real comparison will be against Intel 14th gen. Last year, a Surface Pro 9 in ARM flavor was like less than half the performance of the Intel version. If this year, the ARM version is at the level of the new Intel chip (quite more powerful that last year), this is a giant LEAP and if the ARM chip has a significant advantage in term of consumption, we may be for an "M chip moment" on Windows side. Very interesting. And yes, I do think both Intel and Apple are worried. Apple gained suddenly market share because of the M chip. If Windows machines can offer the same level of autonomy (performance was never an issue but rather performance per watts and therefore cooling/form factor...) than Mac, then, Mac sales will become again a tough sell for most.
@kushunadkat9087 Ай бұрын
It is truly remarkable that but a diminutive fraction of the populace comprehends this verity.
@blinblinthing Ай бұрын
It was Elite 950 @ 23 WATTS (41.3 PPW) vs M3 1010 @ 25 WATTS (40.4 PPW) in Cinebench. I doubt it going to substantially higher wattage variations in the other tests. If Apple doesn't to worry, then they shouldn't
@blinblinthing Ай бұрын
@@shitvideoquality4856 Qualcomm had the better Performance Per Watt in the Cinebench test.
@hologramwall Ай бұрын
Wow! Came out right on time.
@RirtyDascal Ай бұрын
7:31 or egpu's! That would be wonderful. It's the only thing I feel Apple silicon is missing out on.
@mistakek Ай бұрын
Hopefully they eventually come out with desktop CPU's. That's where things will get exciting.
@TommyAzzino-yt1iz Ай бұрын
Is there a specific benchmark focused on energy-efficient operations? (Not sure but I might have missed this in the comparisons) I would be nice to see the differences with x86 and Apple ARM in this context.
@antalpoti Ай бұрын
Pcmark 10 I think.
@andrewufc71 Ай бұрын
excellent. thanks for my daily fix
@Techonsapevole 29 күн бұрын
Thanks for the Speedometer benchmark, can you run the tests also on Linux?
@N3tigen Ай бұрын
Do we also see more Arm processor In mini pc or Qualcomm also have more plans in Arm based computer.😮
@inamulbhuyan Ай бұрын
Snapdragon X Elite ❤❤
@hieverybody4246 20 күн бұрын
If you mean desktop, that's not so important since on the desktop, Intel x86 are still the fastest and cheapest processors. But I'm sure Qualcomm will be making an ARM chip for desktop eventually, for those super concerned about heat.
@TDCIYB77 Ай бұрын
Even more important than performance: Will MSFT make such a well designed compatibility layer like Apple made?
@crestofhonor2349 Ай бұрын
The compatibility layer isn't that bad and works. The issue stems from the earlier chips which were all smartphone chips, which are far weaker than laptop chips
@kararzanboor800 Ай бұрын
there are one right now, it's not the best, but it's good to a degree for now
@Proudarse Ай бұрын
What about all the Windows apps? How will they work on ARM? Will Microsoft introduce something similar to Rosetta for on the fly conversion from x86 to ARM, or will the ARM version of Windows only support ARM based apps? Thanks
@ukyoize Ай бұрын
Well, I doubt there is ARM windows port of Witcher 3
@hieverybody4246 20 күн бұрын
All the big name Windows software is already ported to ARM, except games. But gamers also largely use desktop CPUs, which have great cooling and don't really need ARM chips because they're still the fastest chips available, with big, beefy GPUs.
@michaelkovalsky4907 Ай бұрын
I think a bigger question would be apps: Mac is sufficiently popular, especially amongst power users, to where it can force companies to make an ARM native solution. Uncertain if Windows has that leverage as it is a question of how many will buy computers with the X Elite, and is it worth their time. I assume if it compiles for the M line of chips it doesn't necessarily mean it will just be a plug and play for X Elite.
@hieverybody4246 20 күн бұрын
Windows is far more popular on the desktop than Mac, and with Microsoft backing ARM, we've already seen all the big software packages provide ARM versions. I believe all the game devs are going to be providing ARM versions soon, particularly indies like me. Most internally developed business apps in the last decade are .Net or Java based, which are processor agnostic, so those aren't much of an issue. The biiig lagger here is going to be companies who make security and management software to sell to other business, and big corporations, who move super slowly. But consumers are not going to be a problem IMO.
@TheSonoranSniper 9 сағат бұрын
what exactly are "power users"
@hieverybody4246 8 сағат бұрын
@@TheSonoranSniper Expert users of particular feature rich applications, mainly. Quasi-expert users.
@SuperPudley Ай бұрын
Is there any information about these chips for desktops?
@hieverybody4246 20 күн бұрын
They aren't for desktops, yet. x86 desktops kill these things in performance because they can do much better cooling.
@ianhys Ай бұрын
Wish to see some retail products at Computex this year.
@anandlakkaraju6825 Ай бұрын
Were the Snapdragons plugged in when the benchmarks ran ?
@Mooooov0815 Ай бұрын
They probably where. However, 23W power draw for the entire system is absolutely no issue to be consistently delivered from battery
@wardwillems2891 Ай бұрын
It looks promising as a development but is the integration of hardware and software comparable with able? And if not, when do they expect to reach that level. Because then it would be an interesting alternative foor me.
@behappybevegan Ай бұрын
And the price will be?
@mutovkin Ай бұрын
Would love to know if Qualcomm is working having first class Linux support as Intel does. Without full linux driver support while impressive this is irrelevant for software developers, however, if there is support I would think we would have for the first time in 4 years competition to Mac for developers.
@RustedCroaker 22 күн бұрын
And knowing the Qualcomm history in this regard, I wouldn't hold my breath
@scottmtaylor1 Ай бұрын
Why compare most benchmarks with M2, not M3? Also which M2 / M3 version?
@martingifford5415 Ай бұрын
It all comes down to compatibility. Will all the software developers rewrite their apps for Qualcomm's chip? Will MS Office be hobbled like it is on Apple Silicon?
@hieverybody4246 20 күн бұрын
Office is already ported. IT's not hobbled, unless some extension you use isn't ported. Most existing "big name" Windows software is already ported.
@GamesCell Ай бұрын
Hackintosh community days after release: let’s make the ARM version of Mac work on ARM Windows computers!
@MainInternetUser 13 күн бұрын
That's exactly what i thought 😂. They made ryzen hackintosh so why not arm hackintosh ? It will be hard but surely it's possible. Some guys installed Android on iPhone (with checkra1n) so why not ?
@brachiator1 Ай бұрын
It will be interesting to see what happens when these chips are actually available in products.
@richi2870 Ай бұрын
Will come soon, in Summer:)
@minciNashu Ай бұрын
But how many cores are they benchmarking ? How many cores does the M3 have, or the Snapdragon ? Are they comparing similar levels of SKUs ?
@lsbargaoanu Ай бұрын
Interesting and useful video!
@simoneh4732 Ай бұрын
At the moment I think Snapdragon is going after Intel/AMD laptop market more than Apple.
@lairdinho Ай бұрын
Problem is, M3 has been out in products you can buy for a while and we're still waiting for the very first laptop, tablet, anything with the Qualcomm chip. It looks like a decent chip but there's plenty of work to do. They'll need to execute flawlessly to ensure it's relevant on the market. Ultimately this first chip will lose money, you'd think. They'll need to iterate it quickly and maybe the second or third gen chip will be a big success. I wish them well, the added competition is very welcome.
@blinblinthing Ай бұрын
The Intel products were out before M1 came out also. End of the day, more competition, better for us consumers.
@lairdinho Ай бұрын
@@blinblinthing No Intel Meteor Lake only came out at the end of last years, years after M1 launched.
@blinblinthing Ай бұрын
@@lairdinho I didn't mention meteor lake, I'm just saying Intel products were out before M1, meaning, just thinking you shouldn't worry because brand x is out first isn't an accurate statement.
@robertbolzicco9995 Ай бұрын
They will need windows support and app support to make it happen. Even if it's better and faster if the programs are not there it's not gonna help.
@lairdinho Ай бұрын
@@robertbolzicco9995 Some good emulation would help. Apple silicon Macs run old x86 code surprisingly well.
@juanlondono2841 Ай бұрын
thanks for info, great news
@pedrosmmc 11 күн бұрын
Question here: Does it perform the same when unplugged from the wall?
@esbanfx5876 Ай бұрын
Snapdragon X Elite at 80W demonstrating how inefficient it is 5:15
@jeanbaptistelabelle Ай бұрын
That is for the complete system, not the chip.
@blinblinthing Ай бұрын
It was Elite 950 @ 23 WATTS vs M3 1010 @ 25 WATTS (Which isn't inefficient) Them showing a High performance (My Guess) mode beating Apple is more to show, if you wanted more performance, you can get it.
@chrism869 Ай бұрын
That's not the chip ,that's the whole laptop
@inamulbhuyan Ай бұрын
23 wat also
@esbanfx5876 Ай бұрын
By dividing the performance by W, the Snapdragon X Elite obtains 2.3% more performance per consumption compared to the M3, that is good I guess But as you use more W, the performance per W begins to decrease.
@einstien2409 Ай бұрын
Imagine an RTX 4070 with these Xelite cpus. In a laptop.
@tedboggs4569 Ай бұрын
I can't wait to get this kind of power at low wattage in mini PCs too.
@MapleEmpire Ай бұрын
M3 Max comparison is needed, it's not fair to compare elite and ultra chips to base M3
@jeanbaptistelabelle Ай бұрын
M chip is not available for Windows so the real interest is the comparison in term of power and consumption between an Intel 14th gen and the ARM version. That is what consumer wants to know. In term of comparing with Apple, first, Apple has no hybrid like a Surface. And speaking only of laptop then, the question will be to see what offers a 1700$ Samsung Galaxy Book Edge 4 with this Snapdragon compared to a 512go, 16Go of RAM 1700$ 14" Apple Mac. What chip do you have in a Mac Pro for this price? M3 Ultra?
@JohnSmith-pn2vl Ай бұрын
ofc Apple has no ""hybrid" because that's just stupid beyond imagination, and it shows when you try it out. the real Problem is the windows and PC ecosystem which will die imo. running apps in arm will nowhere near rosetta i guarantee you that. and this is the elephant in the room. i see no future for windows, intel, nvidia or AMD, they are all dead long term.@@jeanbaptistelabelle
@TamasKiss-yk4st Ай бұрын
@jeanbaptistelabelle Mac Pro have at least M3 Pro chip.. not the basic M3, and wih 50% more cores even the M3 Pro will perform better like the regular M3.. (and with M2 vs M2 Pro the diff is even higher), and remember in their announcement event they just hided the comparison against the M2 Max.. and actually now the M2 Max has about the same price tag like the M3 Pro..
@richi2870 Ай бұрын
Sure, you want compare a 6000€ M3 Max vs an Snapdragon X Elite looool Whats wrong with you?!
@peterbreis5407 Ай бұрын
@@richi2870 So how much is the Snapdragon X Elite?
@joaopauloalbq Ай бұрын
9:24 You have to use the same web browser, this comparison makes no sense.
@krishnansrinivasan830 Ай бұрын
We got to learn about the performance of X Elite with Battery & about the long run on intensive tasks :) I really liked it's performance with Davinci Resolve :) Awesome & Thanks :)
@mistake0101 Ай бұрын
But how hot does it get? Battery life in windows?
@TDCIYB77 Ай бұрын
AMDs new laptop chips also have 45 TOPs, as this is the new baseline required by MSFT for Windows 12. Also AMDs GPUs should blow both Intel and Qualcomm out of the water.
@fidelisitor8953 Ай бұрын
But at how many watts? Qualcomm will sip power while the AMD will use significantly more power leading to much shorter battery life while unplugged.
@TDCIYB77 Ай бұрын
@@fidelisitor8953 Both are 15W class with a cTPD. X86 is NOT in general less efficient than Arm, now that Arm too is being scaled from embedded and Phones up to laptops, desktop and server compute. The instruction set balloons and gets less efficient if you scale it to high performance compute no matter if Arm, X86 or any other even like RISC-V. Latest arch from AMD can scale from low power mobile up to 400W+ server. The real efficiency savings come from accelerators like NPUs, hardware codecs, vector instructions and GPU compute. And there, all players are now in 2024 much more comparable than even a few months ago.
@fidelisitor8953 Ай бұрын
@@TDCIYB77 "X86 is NOT in general less efficient than Arm" - If that's so then how the hell does Apple's M3 max match AMD's R9 7945HX performance while using less than half the power draw? M3 max uses 50W to produce same performance as the 125W R9 7945HX so that clearly proves that ARM is significantly more efficient than x86.
@TDCIYB77 Ай бұрын
@@fidelisitor8953 I am talking about the general instruction sets, and you pick 2 specific models, from 2 specific vendors, with 2 very specific implementation of their respective instruction sets. What "performance" do you mean? Normalized to what? As i said, real world performance of Apples (and most other vendors today) chips is NOT achieved through some mystical non existent advantage of Arm vs X86. But by custom ASICs for codecs, vector math/NPU/GPU compute. And this is exactly where the gap has closed in 2024. NOT by CPU compute on Arm cores. Not that hard to understand. On top, while Apples lead CPU designers have left to Nuvia and now Qualcomm, leaving Apples IPC improvements lackluster since M1, AMD has consistently delivered higher IPC increases, while also enabling 512 Vector and NPU compute. Arm only locked like a better ISA because Intels lack of innovation and AMD was no competition due to lack of cash until a few years ago. The only benefit Arm brings is a license that is a bit more open than X86, and thus enabling new players to compete. But with Moores Law being dead in a traditional sense, its accelerators and accelerators ONLY where performance innovation can still happen. The ISA is basically irrelevant outside of licensing. With enough R&D and software support one could make a competitive RISC-V laptop class chip in 5 years.
@neverhonors2688 Ай бұрын
@@fidelisitor8953 isnt that also because apple m3 use smaller architecture?
@jamestillman5247 Ай бұрын
My only concern is compatibility with current windows x86 programs. I wish that was covered more along with any pitfalls.
@BradMacPro Ай бұрын
While a Snapdragon X Elite may do some benchmarks well, it runs Windows 11 ARM but most applications and games and Intel coded so while Windows 11 ARM can run 64-bit Intel code, the majority of the software out there, how does that run? And put the chip in a real laptop, how is the throttling? You have to come back to the real world when you test this option.
@peeyushsharma8408 Ай бұрын
Haha love how Snapdragon laptop looks almost like a MacBook (those stickers though!)
@blinblinthing Ай бұрын
You can argue that just about any laptop looks like another laptop you've seen before
@inamulbhuyan Ай бұрын
Snapdragon X Elite ❤❤
@crestofhonor2349 Ай бұрын
Put it in a Razer laptop and it will look even more like a MacBook
@robertbolzicco9995 Ай бұрын
I love how apple laptops are used to brows the internet and people just eat them up for word and Facebook.
@ranjitmandal1612 Ай бұрын
😂🤣
@btw9241 Ай бұрын
All hail Apple for taking ARM to where it should be. However, the heating issue persists.
@-MrEVIL- Ай бұрын
Thats an apple issue Windows on arm won't have that
@xritics19 Ай бұрын
Let the Linux kernel fix this issue in the futur for linux users ;) However, Snapdragon makes ARM cpu's everyday since long long time...Snapdragon knows ARM better than Apple. Just a thing...I don't know why Snapdragon didn't come to the PC market sooner and destroy the X86. They've been capable of it for a long time, I think.
@rigen97 Ай бұрын
@@xritics19 Snapdragon (and Mediatek for that matter) do have products in laptop market...as Chromebooks. The problem is that if you want to release products to PC market you need big-name OS behind you, and for the longest time Windows on ARM was quite a joke, and people only use ChromeOS (much less ARM version of ChromeOS) when they _have_ to. Apple, on the other hand, have users that would buy it even if they switched their architecture from the ground up, as proven by the PowerPC to x86 switch way back when.
@mukukakondowe5939 Ай бұрын
This is the reason why the M1 laptop is selling for 700 dollars at best buy and Walmart. Great job Qualcomm hope you continue making such great chips going forward.
@eltamarindo Ай бұрын
It looks like they also flew Alex Ziskind to this junket. I'm looking forward to his testing when Qualcomm finally releases these for real world testing.
@harveysmith4424 Ай бұрын
Put that chip in a handheld!
@SuperRomanHoliday Ай бұрын
Stick it in a steam deck please
@sheahestrada2868 Ай бұрын
I’m excited for ARM chips to make their way to handheld gaming PCs someday and what kind of performance and battery life we might be able to get out of them.
@AJ-jq3hm Ай бұрын
I hope they make something in the form factor of an asus g14 or razer blade 14". Just a small form factor ARM based laptop with a dedicated gpu (perhaps an rtx 4050 or 4060), which you could carry around for day to day tasks without worrying about battery (thanks to ARM), and then sit down to game whenever you have access to an outlet.
@chrislyonm Ай бұрын
Our GPUs currently will unfortunately always use a ton of battery power. I'm more interested in external GPUs for at home and cloud gaming getting better for when out and about.
@ps3301 Ай бұрын
Wait for the elite x2 for the 100 tops npu on 3nm node.😊
@inamulbhuyan Ай бұрын
Snapdragon X Elite ❤❤
@davidtodd2104 Ай бұрын
Performance per watt is the only metric that matters in most of these tests.
@Pasi123 Ай бұрын
In performance per watt the X Elite beats the M3 and M3 Pro
@davidtodd2104 Ай бұрын
@@Pasi123 It’s a shame that we won’t have a proper review by an outlet like anandtech to know for certain.
@davidtodd2104 Ай бұрын
@@Pasi123 Without a comprehensive test there is no way to know that. It’s interesting that the X Elite makes little mention of single core performance. I think it’s clear why.
@rowaystarco Ай бұрын
Wasn't single core performance mentioned at the end of the video.@@davidtodd2104
@RustedCroaker 22 күн бұрын
But not for desktops
@magfal Ай бұрын
Is that NPU number total chip TOPS or NPU only? Would be a lot less fishy if they compared their product to the actual leader in X86 chips for the same market: the 8840U from AMD.
@rickquick8977 Ай бұрын
What laptop was the X Elite put in?
@N.K.--- Ай бұрын
X86 is not going anywhere yet 😂
@inamulbhuyan Ай бұрын
Snapdragon X Elite Laptop ❤❤💪🔥
@yogibarista2818 Ай бұрын
VS compilation comparison will depend on what the target is.
@JaredDoyle76 Ай бұрын
Looking forward to Android tablets with the newer Qualcomm SoCs.
@svenshruufx7380 Ай бұрын
Nice hardware on paper, but they don't even have a product (notebook) available in the market. Meanwhile Apple already released three generations of highly integrated systems with optimized software. How does Qualcomm want to catch up exactly?
@TamasKiss-yk4st Ай бұрын
They was always behind Apple with a few years (even now when most people compare the wrong generarions.. just because SD8G3 is not the A17 competitor, just when Samsung pissed into his pants, and relocsted an renaned the Note, everyone lost the tracking.. if the S24U still called to Note 24 and still release with the iPhone 16, it would be harder to fool the sheeps to compare it only with the iPhone 15..) So they can solve this with the same way like they always did, shorter software support (even if they started to promise the 7 years for the new purchased phones, Apple aleady done the 8 years OS update cycle, iPhone 6S from 2015 still got the iOS 15.8 security update at Oct 2023, which is more than 8 years away from Sept 2015...)
@jonathanng138 Ай бұрын
70% of the population can't afford MacBooks so I'm pretty sure Windows will find a way to optimize everything for the new snapdragon anyways it'll take some time but it'll probably be quicker than expected
@crestofhonor2349 Ай бұрын
@@TamasKiss-yk4st They aren't behind. Snapdragon 8G3 is faster than the A17 in some areas
@1DwtEaUn Ай бұрын
So the ThinkPad X13s does not exist in your timeline?
@fidelisitor8953 Ай бұрын
Apple released its first generation Apple silicon and beat intel who's been in the game for 40+ years so them releasing 3 gens doesn't mean Qualcomm can't overtake them. Besides this 1st gen Qualcomm chip is already competing with Apples latest M3 and M3 pro chips. All the X Elite needs is some good app/software optimizations and it's off to a flying start.
@songoku9094 Ай бұрын
I am pretty sure snapdragon X elite was meant to compete with the M3 not the M3 series at all. Also, M3 series is 3nm which is why it would have an advantage over snapdragon X Elite in terms of efficiency and single core performance.
@GesuCrypto Ай бұрын
has snapdragon x elite 4 nanometers?
@4mb127 Ай бұрын
Would be really interesting to see LLM inference perf vs Apple laptops.
@arianamirgholami9555 Ай бұрын
I really doubt this chip would work for discrete GPUs because their drivers are made for x86 and I don't think they can translate kernel stuff to ARM
@ahemenidov1900 Ай бұрын
It already exists: see Ampere Altra CPU workstations.
@techexprt1 Ай бұрын
R.I.P *Intel* and all *Macs* that running *BootCamp*
@inamulbhuyan Ай бұрын
yes Snapdragon X Elite ❤❤
@Ilost11 Ай бұрын
I'll believe windows on ARM beating x86 when I see it. Microsoft has dropped the ball with ARM for more than a decade. The original ARM surface is 12 years old. It's not Qualcomm that's preventing it from succeeding, it's Microsoft consistently dropping the ball.
@Dang3rRoom Ай бұрын
@@Ilost11yup! Microsoft will drop it the moment it doesn’t sell as “expected”
@ranjitmandal1612 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@Wybrem Ай бұрын
Finally, hopefully the end for old, slow and power hungry Intel and AMD x86 cpus on pcs as well.
@danagoyette7932 Ай бұрын
I hope they'll give us real OpenGL and Vulkan drivers, and not rely on a translation to DirectX 12. On my Surface Pro X, that translation layer completely mangles the colors. The GPU driver on the Surface Pro X driver also doesn't support WSL-G without a weird hack that you have to repeat each time there's a driver update.
@oladrolahola Ай бұрын
For those curious about X elite systems, if I recall correctly, Qualcomm planned to release some systems in partnership with other brands by the end of this month... or may
@rtc3000 Ай бұрын
RIP x86 indeed!!!
@csyih Ай бұрын
Was hoping it will at least match my M2 Pro in 3D rendering tasks. Hope they can further optimize the chip along the road.
@jakejoyride Ай бұрын
What you are talking about? It's faster than M2 pro
@tenidas7064 Ай бұрын
hear me out, a new ARM based surface go can be the perfect ipad air alternative if the chips are really as good as these tests prove, and I have high hopes that they are.
@mamam7743 Ай бұрын
It is worth saying that this chip was created by Apple engineers who left the company with the knowledge and sold it for billions. All in all, it's an Apple processor under a different name.
@richi2870 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@aggelosbranikas4446 Ай бұрын
Very true, it’s literal Apple Technology
@richi2870 Ай бұрын
Not true, only a few people come from apple!
@mamam7743 Ай бұрын
@@richi2870 A few people who had knowledge. Key people.
@richi2870 Ай бұрын
@@mamam7743 No, the most work is from snapdragon and selfmade dont talk bullshiit.
@GesuCrypto Ай бұрын
So basically M3 Pro > Snapdragon X Elite
@RaftechGaming89 Ай бұрын
One thing to note on this M3 vs X Elite is that there are 8 cores in apple silicon where 4 is efficiency cores while the X Elite has 12 cores so i think its much fair to compare it to an M3 Pro chip
@EnochGitongaKimathi Ай бұрын
The Apple M3 is using TSMC 3nm while Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite is using TSMC 4nm which is really advanced 5nm. The performance improvement from M2 to M3 from Apple is not good, I was expecting more with the move from 4nm to 3nm. Microsoft Project Volterra was exactly what Windows on ARM developers needed. The Snapdragon offers way more performance than previous attempts so tings will only get better. It is exciting to have all these choices now. X Elite is Gen 1
@Cute_Maxi Ай бұрын
x86 is over... it has 4-5 years of life remaining maximum.
@harryvlogs7833 Ай бұрын
Haha will destroy apple
@ryoji4200 Ай бұрын
Low quality bait 😂
@harryvlogs7833 Ай бұрын
@@ryoji4200 not really this video literally showed it destroyed 3nm m3 pro will still using 4nm
@Lubenggazzi Ай бұрын
Per core basis, apple wins. 12C snapdragon X elite = 8C M2
@ruhri0411 Ай бұрын
@@Lubenggazzi That may be the case. If the laptops with the Snapdragon don't go along with this idiocy with the memory prices and SSD surcharges and offer better equipped devices for lower prices, Apple will lose. They are already suffering a significant drop in Mac sales. They're still wondering where that's coming from. Anyone can tell you that it's Apple's incredible greed, a profit margin of 900% for an upgrade step.
@Lubenggazzi Ай бұрын
@@ruhri0411yeah apple tax go brrrr
@BeaglefreilaufKalkar Ай бұрын
I think its great that there is more competition and kicking ass. Apple stil has one advantage, the optimisation of HW and SW, where the Snapdragon for now will have to do with whatever MS brings to the party.
@jakejoyride Ай бұрын
MS is most valuable company in the world. They have unlimited resources to do this
@BeaglefreilaufKalkar Ай бұрын
@@jakejoyride MS is not the valuable company, but they do have a lot of resources. The question is if they want to allocate these to that.
@Starshooter216 26 күн бұрын
There's always Mini It cases or another small form factor PC. Think about it - an 80 watt chip should work well.
@Krell666 Ай бұрын
Could windows for arm eventually mean the return of Bootcamp for mac users?
@PhillipLearnTeach Ай бұрын
This is a game changer, but it drains a lot of battery on the intels. I'm interested in the Mac M2-3, but it's expensive, and since we use Windows at work and there are more games available on Windows than Mac, I'm considering waiting for the Ultra 185 instead. It might be better for video encoding, so I'll wait to get that one for sure.
@joemartin8888 3 күн бұрын
What happened to the Freescale patents? Did you help take down 370?
@livedreamsg Ай бұрын
Would be very interested in a desktop, higher end version of this like Apple does with their Ultra versions. I'd still wait for a laptop that had comparable build quality to MacBook Pros before I considered it. I'll be keeping my M3 Max for a few years.
@chm2 Ай бұрын
I want to see this in something like the Surface Go line
@klauszinser Ай бұрын
For the Snapdragon but also for upcoming Apple Silicon I am very interested in GPU Performance.
@IMAN7THRYLOS Ай бұрын
The chip is a small part in computing. You also need OS support and application compatibility. Apple overall has managed to make it work with their M series CPUs, their OS and their Apps. Microsoft and Intel have set the standards that all the applications built in the last 30years follow. How would applications write for X86 run on Snapdragon?
@jeanbaptistelabelle Ай бұрын
Like they do since more than 3 years.
@daysgone3950 Ай бұрын
Graphics wise, they can just ship with an Ocu-link for discrete graphics to do the rest.
@user-qw1kv2jb8y Ай бұрын
...and what is the PRICE of the Snapdragon laptop? How does that compare to the others? Can you install Linux on it?
@ahmadafnan3756 Ай бұрын
hope windows for ARM can perform well
@ArtificialIntelligencePrepper Ай бұрын
Maybe an external hard drive concept with upgradeable AI that can interface with ones/any ones computer, could prove much cheaper and easier to carry.
@Snoodlehootberry Ай бұрын
It’s nice to see that competition is finally coming to the SOC RISC market
@kazamiichijuu1609 Ай бұрын
I don't mind using arm or x86, but I would never use a laptop without EFI or something similar. How can I install Linux on it without another computer?
@extra4542 Ай бұрын
My biggest excitement for this is that this would be perfect for a handheld gaming PC if windows becomes more optimized for that form factor. oh man, a powerful ARM handheld that can run windows games would be the dream with performance and power efficiency for longer battery life
@rmzzz76 Ай бұрын
This is very exciting news for Windows users. I have been running Windows 11 Pro ARM64 version on Parallels 19 on my Mac Book Pro, (M3 Pro) 16-GB of RAM and I get faster compile times than Intel i7 desktop with 32-GB of RAM from two years ago... Win 11 ARM64 also runs a great number of games on Parallels utilizing Mac OS Metal, I imagine we'll see something similar with Qualcomm.
@p0r5ch3911 Ай бұрын
I have a Desktop that will stay my main Workstation and Gaming Computer. But if had an Arm Work Laptop that had all my Programs with Apple Battery and Performance, that would be a dream.
@TheCentristChad Ай бұрын
Nice. More competition is always better
@Crustenscharbap Ай бұрын
Thats great to hear. Also the good thing is that Microsoft had an contract with Qualcomm that other chipsa are not allowed. The contract is over now. Now Mediatek SOCs for example are also allowed. Now there is competition. It seems that the Qualcomm at 23W is as fast as the R7 7840HS at 35W. Quite good. Witcher 3 was at 1080p low with FSR balanced. So the render res was 1.129 × 635
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