Snapping the Ultion 3* Diamond ‘anti snap’ cylinder.

Snapping the Ultion 3* Diamond ‘anti snap’ cylinder. - £1000 winner?

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London Locks

4 жыл бұрын

Snapping the unsnapable. Big claims - £1000 anti snap guarantee.

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@philipporter4433 3 жыл бұрын

This is an unfair test as when the lock is in the door, its supported by the door up to the point where it is supposed to snap, the point of snapping is designed for being in a door and won't be effective in a vice.

@LondonLocks 2 жыл бұрын

a determined burglar will have the handle off in seconds be able to get pretty much the same leverage.

@KyTaundry 2 жыл бұрын

@@LondonLocks Yeah they can easily snap the handle, but I don't believe there would be as much of the lock barrel protruding from the door as there is from your vice. And like Philip above was getting at, the lock is held in place with a central fixed bolt, meaning the snapping point is completely different to when you have over half of the cylinder clamped in a vice.

@escos0410 Жыл бұрын

I work in the upvc industry Just this morning I had to help out a new fitter with one of these lock as they had lost the keys (they come with the comp doors the company supply) 20mins it took to drill, snap and trigger the firing the pin. They come from the factory installed too All I had too was basic equipment I’m certainly not impressed with them finding out how easy it was I find the secondary anti snap sleeves that can be fitted over the barrel behind the lock handle better as both sides are connected with 5mm Alan screws clapping both sides together the handle

@jameshunt8373 Жыл бұрын

I've snapped these clean off when sitting without handles, I use the pick when the handles support it. It really does rely on the handles to stop it from being vulnerable. The correct fitting of the cylinder is essential also.

@leejordan5327 Жыл бұрын

@@escos0410 So it took you 20 minutes to break this lock as apposed to 30 seconds for a normal euro cylinder lock?? I'd say that's a win and a positive for this lock. Appreciate it might not be infallible, but it's a huge improvement on 99% of the locks out there today surely.

@nickglass1635 3 жыл бұрын

Have been looking to replace my locks so checking out KZfaq to help. Find this a very distorted video as the integrity of the lock is helped by the door frame and that how it should be tested. So I would imagine snapping it in a vice is not a very accurate representation of its snap strength. If you are going to demonstrate how easy it is to break or drill ANY lock then please do it in real situation, in a door, using the same tools an opportunistic thief would be using. Then at least any customer would be able to make a comparative choice and your videos more worth while. This video does not help any consumer looking to determine what is the right lock to choose.

@LondonLocks 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your comment. This isn’t a consumer video, but I appreciate your feedback. I wouldn’t recommend these cylinders for many reasons, So it is kinda is helping you determine which lock NOT to choose. Personally I have EVVA cylinders on all my doors. There’s my tip. 😉. Plus any of these I have opened in real doors, in real life situations, I’ve picked the lock open in minutes.

@svaigagalja 3 жыл бұрын

@@LondonLocks this is very good video, cause it actually shows that even if you snap the lock you are still fail to open it. And you would never snap lock that quick when it’s in a door.

@maximc7089 5 ай бұрын

I completely agree with you Nick. Very few of these videos are made for consumers, they seem to be made for lock pickers. It really is silly to put the lock in a vise and demonstrate its destruction because anyone can do that. A burglar is looking for the easiest quickest way to get in and he won't be bothering to take minutes to fiddle with the lock, let alone carrying a vise and an electric drill around with him.

@Norwichjase 3 жыл бұрын

I don’t think this is a true representation of the lock. It’s a bit like driving over a phone with a tank and saying it won’t withhold pressure from being in your back pocket.

@matthewyabsley 3 жыл бұрын

It won't, if previously ran over by a tank. Lol.

@LondonLocks Жыл бұрын

fair comment. however, if the handle were removed you could still get the same result.

@jpaulgetty8998 Жыл бұрын

Can you tell me what kind of drill bits you using . Thank You .

@ObbardProductions 4 ай бұрын

Can all 3 star locks be drilled like this?.

@johnsmall3105 Жыл бұрын

Since it's easy for a burglar to snap a handle and gain access to a cylinder, do you think it would be a good idea to weld the outside handle to the door? (my door is an aluminum door) provided that you can still change the cylinder when needed by removing the plate that's on the inside of the door and then removing the cylinder from the inside.

@LondonLocks 5 ай бұрын

I would not recommend welding ALU. I would recommend using the Ultion/Brissant Sweet Sweet or Lock Lock handles. they're bigger and more robust.

@davelympany1724 3 жыл бұрын

hello what drill bit is that?? I've been using the bosch multi construction bits are there better ones?

@LondonLocks 2 жыл бұрын

Tungsten ;)

@n1ckypreston 5 күн бұрын

I agree to an extent of how this can be seen as unfair as the barrel will be mostly in the door if people measure the cylinders correctly. But these locks like most can all be picked. The ultion being the biggest gap opening so all tools can be inserted to be picked. I have this lock but replaced it with something else as I didn’t like it. Also when inserting my key to lock and unlock my door with this lock it was very clunky and wasn’t smooth to insert. Really put me off having this lock. There is a KZfaq video where someone picked this lock within one minute

@kris4897 3 жыл бұрын

Hello there, what do you think about abs avocet ? I saw a few pickings here on youtube and it seems very hard to pick.

@eddymintball1950 Жыл бұрын

Seconds to open with the correct tool.

@TheStonecold128 Жыл бұрын

@@eddymintball1950 No different to the Ultion unfortunately seen here kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bJOhea6S1Lmqpac.html

@danthelambboy 3 жыл бұрын

did the drilling cause the sections to bind together leading the cylinder to snap at the wrong section?

@LondonLocks 3 жыл бұрын

Hi. No not at all. Drilling slow and steady caused no binding. In real life I wouldn’t have the luxury of apply the same force as in the video, unless it was fitted badly.

@danthelambboy 3 жыл бұрын

@@LondonLocks I see. When it is not possible to get purchase on the cylinder with the snap tool would it be good to use a plug puller tool?

@LondonLocks 2 жыл бұрын

@@danthelambboy drilling would be more effective than snapping in that instance.

@user-wc2ky8ss2o 3 жыл бұрын

Its a good lock. Unless you have a 2 inch solid steel front door and 2 inch thick break proof windows they will get in if they want. They could just break a window or cut through the door. Ive seen it where theyve not bothered drilling the lock and just use a flame tourch to cut through the door around the locks

@escos0410 Жыл бұрын

Be there along time if it’s a rock door I won’t use anything else.

@krcright9746 3 жыл бұрын

The Kaba ( Gege ) pExtra guard cylinder is a tricky picker for sure

@LondonLocks 2 жыл бұрын

will drill similarly, though.

@fireblaster9961 3 жыл бұрын

Is this euro basically the same as the era fortress?

@DerekMercerlocksmith 2 жыл бұрын

No it isnt probably made in the same place Federal Locks Taiwan. The Era is a more difficult lock to open by picking and or snapping and drilling, the ERA is very similar to Federals own lock the Ironguard YCF.

@mastershake42019 3 жыл бұрын

Tighten the chuck please Jesus lol

@LondonLocks 2 жыл бұрын

it's a very old drill and the chuck is worn. sorry. annoying I know.

@maximc7089 6 ай бұрын

This is test about how to destroy a lock, not about gaining entry through the door. As far as this shows, this lock has done a fantastic job, so it's an endorsement for the company that makes them.

@LondonLocks 5 ай бұрын

My point is there are better cylinders on the market. Manufacturers say this and that but really with the right tools and a little bit of know-how most high cylinders are really not that hard to open. One should believe all the hype, as always. consult your local MLA-approved locksmith for advice as they'll know what's best for your area based on the attacks they see. FYI - these locks pick open very quickly so drilling or snapping is the absolute last resort.

@maximc7089 5 ай бұрын

If you look at your video objectively, it only shows how to destroy a lock and there isn't a lock that would survive this treatment. Maybe you can do another video of you doing the same to a lock that withstands the test, go on, try it.@@LondonLocks

@d17mop 2 жыл бұрын

What is the most secure euro cylinder then. Need get mine changed rapid after seeing this.

@LondonLocks 2 жыл бұрын

I would recommend EVVA locks. Especially ICS or higher. I have these on my own front door.

@DerrickPurvis 3 жыл бұрын

Good work waking up the neighbourhood lol

@That_Guy- 3 жыл бұрын

Blame the fool who lost his keys in the first place

@LondonLocks 2 жыл бұрын

its an easy pick. This is worst case scenario

@bossbeano3185 3 жыл бұрын

That’s the older version ultion

@LondonLocks 3 жыл бұрын

It is. But the new one is no better.

@bossbeano3185 3 жыл бұрын

London Locks do you need to mod the pick for the wxm?

@LondonLocks 3 жыл бұрын

Boss Beano yes. The pins are on the other side of the cylinder. It’s a mirror image. And the keyway is way wider allowing easier access. The upgrade is probably worse then the original. 😂

@bossbeano3185 3 жыл бұрын

London Locks thanks for your help. Had one on Friday but luckily customer came back. will get the pick or picks

@bwalid1437 4 жыл бұрын

Hello, thank you for your video, great job. Please tell me she's the best cylinder for you? What do you recommend I buy?. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

@LondonLocks 4 жыл бұрын

B walid they pick pretty easy and they aren’t drill resistant. But you need skill to keep it clean. Better than most, but for the money there’s better out there. Like EVVA 3* eps cylinders available from us.

@M_8735 2 жыл бұрын

And if I had dynamite I could just blow the door off its hinges. What a pointless video. 🙄

@LloydMorgan78 2 жыл бұрын

Pointless to you.

@escos0410 Жыл бұрын

‘If I had any dynamite’? then you come out with what a pointless video? Ffs 🤦‍♂️ Iv just spat my tea out laughing 😂

@lawts78 5 ай бұрын

None of these videos destroying 3 star locks, from experts, ever give you a better alternative or any advice on what we should be using to deter thieves...

@LondonLocks 5 ай бұрын

Hi. I would recommend an ABS Master cylinder. It puts up a way better fight. i would also match the cylinder with a 2-star security escutcheon.

@lawts78 5 ай бұрын

@@LondonLocksThanks for the reply, much appreciated. I was looking at the ABS also. So I'll go ABS then. Thanks! Would you recommend a cylinder guard too or is that not necessary if you have the 2 star handle? There have been loads of snapped locks in our area recently, and many stolen cars. In fact there was a question raised about it by our local MP in parliament a couple of days ago... that's how bad it's got. The area is Sherburn in Elmet.

@LondonLocks 5 ай бұрын

@@lawts78 2-star handles are the perfect match for a 3-star cylinder. The aim of the star system is to try and achieve 3 stars total, if you achieve 5 you are way above the recommendation. But this is what I have on my own doors. The more protection for the cylinder the better. Kind regards.

@paulb7964 2 жыл бұрын

So you cheated.

@niceguy235uk1 2 жыл бұрын

Very misleading video.

@LondonLocks 2 жыл бұрын

in what respect?

@andyp9131 5 ай бұрын

Omg I can do that as that's cheating it's in the door omg and Ur camera it's all over the place I won't get a £1000 for that and its £2000 now but u cheated.

@LondonLocks 5 ай бұрын

Full aware we cheated. Thank you for the feedback.