So many to choose from! But what are they like?
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Value for money. This is a huge subject that can be applied to anything in the world that is a product or service. In the watch world, value for money to you can depend on what is important to you, and what you are looking for in a watch.
Someone can buy a watch for £1500 and feel like its great value for money. (my Oris Aquis fits that category to me) A Tudor Black Bay represents "good value" at under £3000, compared to its Rolex counterparts, it is good value. But for many, nearly £3000 for a watch is difficult to attain at the moment, or ever!
You could buy a watch for £300 and be disappointed, so it's poor value for money as you aren't impressed.
Or you could buy a Chinese made watch, overlook the snobbery and be treated to a well specified watch that objectively is very good for the money, hence "good value". But does all this decent spec add up to a good watch?
Or is it just a case of throwing the kitchen sink at it, and using that as a way of selling it? Lets take a look....
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@stusims6567 4 жыл бұрын
I’m a senior citizen on a limited income, but I like watches! Unfortunately this limits me to buying these Chinese special watches so that I can have a variety of choices. I love the fact that I can find great little watches on a budget. Here in Southern Indiana there are few who recognize the difference between a Rolex date-just and a Cadisen copy of the Rolex. For the price difference I can buy a whole collection for the difference! Great video as always!!!
@Mister_Phafanapolis 3 жыл бұрын
I too, unlike the government, am on a limited income
@jb678901 3 жыл бұрын
I was fortunate to buy a Rolex 16613 Sub over twenty years ago, along with a few other investment grade watches. But I also enjoy having some of these homages/micro-brands...which are terrific value for money, look great...are made with quality materials and have very good fit/finish. Based on a reliable SII NH-35A/NH-36A (or some micro-brands with ETA's or Valjoux 7750), they are perfect daily drivers and excellent for travel, the outdoors...and anywhere else one might find that an investment grade might not be appropriate for the occasion. Working from home today while wearing a SteelDive green dial/bezel "Hulk" homage ($99) with an aftermarket fully brushed sub-styled bracelet ($25). Unlike my Rolex...no risk to scratch the ceramic bezel on this baby!
@charlesofsavage7393 2 жыл бұрын
@@Mister_Phafanapolis good one
@neilba1 4 жыл бұрын
I have 10 seiko dive watches and love them all. I recently bought the steeldive Willard you have here and their submariner homage which I'm wearing right now. They have completely redefined my idea of value. No R&D, design or marketing means a lot of saved money. There is no way at all a seiko turtle can compare to the Willard homage and it costs 3 times more and uses the same movement...! Staggering.
@neilba1 4 жыл бұрын
I hear you with QC though....but then Seiko have the same problem....!
@scottmcdonald3030 4 жыл бұрын
Love the Steel Dive!!
@alanwright3172 4 жыл бұрын
The new pagani design 40mm sub looks quite good
@mimmo2341 4 жыл бұрын
My understanding is the San Martin submariner is excellent homage. It's more money but worth it for better specs and QC.
@davidcoleman2463 4 жыл бұрын
Yes but I went for the Steinhart Ocean one 39 . It is swiss made . ETA / SW 200 movment.
@Vintiqueture 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidcoleman2463 I LOVE the Steinhart, top-notch quality 👍
@jazzman5598 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! Other SMART folks who recognize the awesome quality of Steinhart! I own the Ocean 39 Vintage GMT. No crown guards, the gorgeous dial, an ETA 2893-2 with NO alignment issues with the GMT/Hour hand. Huge crown. For me, perfection. I have a Heuer/Baylor Bi-pax chronograph, a small, square, Omega 14K dress watch. I have a couple of nice watches but in the last year 90% of my wrist time rocked my Steinhart!
@timeaftertime3563 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting... There's one thing we tend to forget in the equation. Lots and lots of people in the world have an monthly income of less than $1000. Also less than $100... Believe it or not, they also watch watch channels. Value for money is completely different then... Sure glad you approved of the Steeldive 👍 That's the one I ordered about 2 months ago. Still waiting...
@Mister_Phafanapolis 3 жыл бұрын
Low income? Then you just need to jUsT sAvE uP and stop buying SHITTERS and buy a $10,000+ SWISS watch! LOL Watch _idiot_ savants are hands down the worst hobbyists I've ever encountered. Very glad I found this sort of sub-genre of Chinese specials and microbrands, otherwise I would have pissed off from the entire interest.
@MichaelWerneburg 3 жыл бұрын
@@Mister_Phafanapolis 8^) I take it you've never endured a gear conversation with an "audiophile".
@watchalot919 4 жыл бұрын
Best subby homage is a San Martin or Steinhart, neither are particularly cheap
@deanboca12 4 жыл бұрын
My Pagani Design sub gains 5 seconds per day. It took me 15 minutes to remove 2 links per side to fit my wrist, and all screws are tight. The lume is not great but I can read it all night. It's much easier to read than my Rolex 16030 Datejust, and instead of paying $600-$800 every few years for service, I can just buy another. In fact, I am waiting for my PD 1662 Batman GMT to arrive in the next couple weeks.
@hectorpoh5297 4 жыл бұрын
You've got a great voice mate. Very very suitable for such videos. You could do commentary for documentaries.
@watchmewithwatches 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks!
@ericklinger6830 4 жыл бұрын
Sea-Gull and Parnis are really good watches.
@davidcoleman2463 4 жыл бұрын
Not the same at all .
@jaer.6540 3 жыл бұрын
gonna have to disagree. Parnis has just as man quirks as all the other chinese brands. Seagull was an actual company back in the day that created their own in house movement.
@the_once-and-future_king. 2 жыл бұрын
I got the Steeldive Willard a few months back and I love it. Absolutely top quality. Bezel has zero back play and the lume is insane.
@the_9ent 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting video. My take: Cadisen + Starking: best value for money watches available anywhere on terms of spec and design. Pagani Design: some QC issues. Parnis: good attention to detail. I’ve ordered a Steeldive Max Bill homage which should be arriving soon. Hoping it will be too notch 🙏
@daniellawson2169 4 жыл бұрын
I was eating a cube of cheese when you said '...and a name that sounds like penis' and I nearly choked to death, so thank you.
@watchmewithwatches 4 жыл бұрын
hope you are alright. what cheese was it? I partial to red Leicester
@daniellawson2169 4 жыл бұрын
@@watchmewithwatches it was in fact red Leicester. I can only eat that and mild cheddar, can't hack anything stronger.
@watchmewithwatches 4 жыл бұрын
@@daniellawson2169 you have excellent taste in cheese
@ciczan 4 жыл бұрын
I have ordered a San Martin datejust in the summer sale. Since they offer dial customization I sent them a design with my family name on it. It is a bit of a risk, since there is no review on that model yet. But the pics on their page look amazing. It all was a bit less than 300 eur. Including dial and back customizations. If all goes well it think I will have an outstanding daily watch for the years to come.
@watchmewithwatches 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to see that when you get it! You on Instagram?
@svenmaerz1 4 жыл бұрын
@@watchmewithwatches absolutely interesting topic here! In addition, I d love to see a video of the cadisen hommage here. I am curious about it. Had a research about the movement and spoke to the costumer service, but I am not satisfied. Would love to see a video from you. Maybe with a direct comparison.
@ciczan 4 жыл бұрын
@@watchmewithwatches I will probably do a link-private video after I receive, to post on reddit/ChineseWatches, I can send to you as well. However, since I sent the designs San Martin has been silent. Both on ali express messages and email. I don't know if they are busy with the summer sales orders or something. But if they don't give an update in 3 days AliExpress will automatically cancel the order.
@Star-Biscuit 4 жыл бұрын
Love the video concept, that blue dial date just looks incredible. I’ve got that Steel Dive on my wish list too. Great watches.
@neilpiper9889 4 жыл бұрын
I have 3 Sea-gull watches. 1963 38mm Sapphire on a Rios leather strap Ocean star diver black dial Sea-gull fly wheel day date and a Rodina R005 bauhaus with a Sea-gull st17 movement. Oh, and I have Parnis 44mm watch with a Sea-gull st36 handwriting movement. Plus 3 Sea-gull vintage 1980s 36mm handwinders with the great St5 movement. That's my little flock. Perfect for me
@garyshepherd9226 4 жыл бұрын
Agree on the Steeldive - I have 2 from the same vendor as you.
@Box500spooks 4 жыл бұрын
Just ordered that Steeldive, and sourced a waffle strap for it. I’ll also try it on a Bond NATO, I think.
@jozefkazsmer5940 4 жыл бұрын
The Cadisen "Datejust" looks amazing. The only problem is the writing on the dial. It says the watch is water resistant up to 50ATM 😃
@jacc88888 4 жыл бұрын
😂 The dressiest deep-sea ‘dive watch’ I’ve ever seen! Can’t be a true Chinese special without some typos on the dial!
@russb24 4 жыл бұрын
They meant to say it's water resistant "AT 50 M"
@Jlingsw 4 жыл бұрын
Lol I was about to comment the same thing. I don't get how you mess that up especially looking at the caseback which correctly says 5 atm...
@martinowl 3 жыл бұрын
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@karlsenula9495 4 жыл бұрын
Liking that blue Cadisen and the Steeldive.
@MyAlan999 4 жыл бұрын
I have 3 'Chinese specials' , very rarely get worn but it terms of accuracy all 3 come in within +/- 5spd , have more expensive watches with hi beat miyota 9015 and sw200-1 movements that are less accurate, theres always the question of overall QC but if you don't mind the names in the dials then the value for money is amazing
@davidbaird1898 4 жыл бұрын
For many of us, I think that we will never be able to afford the 'real' Submariners, Seamasters, Breitlings etc., but, these watches fulfil at least the visual appeal, and often the reliability as well. If the movement dies, buy another one and fit it. I personally can’t afford the service on a Seamaster, let alone the price of one. I love automatic watches. China fits the bill. Do they make me feel like I am wearing a Datejust? No. But, I wear my watches for me, not to impress others. Plus, I like modding watches, and when asked 'who makes that watch?', the answer is...me. Far more kudos.
@possumsam2189 4 жыл бұрын
Well when you go that high, you see things as investments and watches are no exception. How much I can make from the Rolex GMT Master II Limited Releases or Patek's Nautilus etc.? If you splurge so much on a watch at this price bracket and you don't care about resale, then you are a fool. Which is part of the appeal of cheap homages and Chinese watches, they are entirely guilt-free
@gaj5701 4 жыл бұрын
Go for the ones with a Seiko NH35, sapphire crystal & the look you want. As long as you don't mind the name on the dial, you'll have a reasonably good watch. The divers are generally only diver style watches with 100m or less water resistance (my PD1651 is actually sealed really well when I took it apart to remove a dust speck) & poor lume but certainly look the part & make awesome beater watches.
@rmelo5932 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Over the years I have purchsed Seiko Sumo, PADI Samurai and a ProSpecs Turtle. All had issues with either a misaligned bezel ring, chapter ring or in the case of the Sumo a substantial scratch on the Hardlex glass. I sent all 3 to a Seiko watch modder and he did excellent work. Obviously with the original price of the watches plus the mods this came to a pretty penny. Recently I purchased the Steel Dive in your video for $138 USD and it is perfect. Not a single QC issue. I love Seiko divers, but at the current prices, I will not gamble that there will not be any CQ issues. With Steel Dive, I am not at all that worried.
@katerhofmann 4 жыл бұрын
Good video. Since I have steeldives I am haven't that much fun with the Parnis anymore, except the mechaquartz Daytona /Bellytanker maybe.
@thomasmargolis3313 4 жыл бұрын
I had a grail watch - seagull 1963 sapphire. It deserves the praise, in my opinion. ANd a SteelDive is on the way, NH35, sapphire, w/e, for a price that has value. QC I can remark on when I get it. On the other hand, the incredibly inexpensive array that are marketed as 'quality' that are overpriced and 'luxury'. Watches that lack value can even be made elsewhere, or not.
@wantanmi2268 3 жыл бұрын
never met such an honest review before. This is very helpful, thanks a lot sir, u deserved more views and subs
@kingboyous 3 жыл бұрын
The strap on the Cadisen dress watch is epic - where'd you get it? Love your channel btw.
@juniorjohnson5961 4 жыл бұрын
I just ordered the Steel Dive Aviation bronze Aviation watch ! I'll let you know what I think ! I don't have a lot of money myself !
@Dizzywind 4 жыл бұрын
I got tired of Seiko and their value for money has really gone downhill the last couple of years. I’ll keep the ones I own but no more. Chinese brands like Steeldive Heimdallr Phoibos SanMartin and Seagull fill the void left by Seiko and offer much better materials for the money. I stay away from the lower end Chinese brands. I own that Steeldive you featured and it’s great! I mean to say it’s REALLY GREAT. Good video mate.
@MichaelWerneburg 3 жыл бұрын
What bracelet did you put on that brown Parnis submariner homage?
@watchreviews4k 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting content. Keep up the good work. Regards.
@wiskijack 3 жыл бұрын
I have the steeldive 6105, put a waffle strap on it I love it! I have the steeldive submariner, 1954 on the way. I want to get a good oyster bracelet for the 1954, any ideas, what would fit it properly?
@stevepritchard5999 3 жыл бұрын
Two great watches. Thanks for a great post!
@SoapyLight 3 жыл бұрын
Love the channel, keep it up.
@brianmsahin 3 жыл бұрын
That Cadisen dial is absolutely stunning...Great video!
@JonathanNelson-nelsonj3 3 жыл бұрын
Rolex uses Loctite on their bracelet screws. It isn't a problem.
@AliasEveWatches 4 жыл бұрын
I really like that Cadisen Datejust homage! the dial is beautiful
@jacc88888 4 жыл бұрын
Agree with your insights! Parnis is just an unfortunate name and I’d probably never buy one because of that. 😁. Also the lume on most sub £100 Chinese specials is woeful. I have the same silver dial Cadisen 1032 and love it and it’s one of my most worn watches although had a QC issue with the movement: it gains +45s on wrist and then loses approx -15 to -20s in all positions when off the wrist: weird. The blue dial Cadisen datejust homage looks stunning!
@ericklinger6830 4 жыл бұрын
I love the Cadisen but the misprint on the dial I can’t do it. It’s 5ATM stated correct on the caseback but it says 50ATM on the dial.
@watchmewithwatches 4 жыл бұрын
I love these mistakes sometimes, adds character. ;)
@matthewsmith3599 4 жыл бұрын
You know you want the mistake and the corrected one.
@ericklinger6830 4 жыл бұрын
Matthew Smith It’s true, it’s damn true.
@gardiyan76 3 жыл бұрын
i love your channel! That PD submariner looks beautiful in that color scheme. Will buy it in the 11/11 sale.
@sasbar187 4 жыл бұрын
Great video 👌
@michaelsorchantte3857 4 жыл бұрын
It's no wonder there is a market for these when a lot of swiss and some vintage Seiko are asking for stupid ridiculous prices.Mostly because of overhype.
@Mister_Phafanapolis 3 жыл бұрын
Objectively comparing materials, details, movements, etc. from something like a top tier Chinese special or a microbrand then it's hard to see the worth in spending over about $2,000 tops on a watch. Yes, for more money you get better polishing, more faces, finer brushing, etc. But I'm not convinced that translates to a more robust, "better" built watch. It's prettier, but it doesn't necessarily make for more _watch._ Yes, original designs cost money and take effort and skill to produce. But how many times over has the design of the Rolex Submariner or DateJust or an AP Royal Oak been paid for? These designs have barely changed in 50 years but the prices of the products hasn't fallen a cent.
@JustAboutTime 3 жыл бұрын
Phylida Rolex DeepSea homage with PT5000 movement is amazing.
@flaS2k 4 жыл бұрын
The humor, sarcasm, and opinions are on point sir ... keep it up👍
@watchmewithwatches 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@chefduane3742 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Most of the issues you've had with the Pagani 1661 I have not experienced with mine. Perhaps you just got a bad example as Chinese value watch QC can be a bit sketchy but I am quite happy with Paganis so far. I have the 1661 and the 1662 (GMT batman) and am quite happy. Now, I have swapped the bracelets out for rubber straps as I just like them better and they wear better in the kitchen. Also, they have a Seiko NH35 movement. Great review and info regardless.
@watchalot919 4 жыл бұрын
I thought the Cadisen had a Miyota hi beat movement?
@watchmewithwatches 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, they do offer another model with the miyota 9015 movement
@rangorango7545 3 жыл бұрын
This was well done, appreciate the unbiased review, I guess homages do have their place in the horology world. That cadisen is gorgeous
@watchmewithwatches 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment. If a watch exists, and has had effort put into actually making it half decent, it deserves some level of respect for sure!
@AlFrash84 4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes you get stinkers with poor design and worse QC, other times you get decent homages that so a really solid job without the financial commitment; lastly you occasionally get an absolute diamond that turns out better than the actual watch it's supposed to be based on. I bought a Steeldive Willard for £80 in the sale and it's better quality and spec than the average mid-range Seiko diver, not least the turtle range. Ali-Ex can be a minefield, but if you take brand snobbery out of the equation then sometimes it's more embarrassing to be wearing the original, from a value perspective.
@SunsetSheen 4 жыл бұрын
Best Sub homage you can get under $1k is the San Martin. The quality is pretty incredible for around $200. Would love to see a full review on that Cadisen Datejust.
@watchmewithwatches 4 жыл бұрын
The Cadisen datejust review is on the way for sure.
@sam9242 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoy Chinese watches for many of your reasons. Big problem right now is the 3-5 month delay in delivery, if at all. Russia has the same problem. Their postal system has collapsed. And the better Submariner is Invicta, but everyone hates them.
@LMF5000 4 жыл бұрын
I ordered a watch from AliExpress last week and paid for EMS shipping. They gave me a DHL tracking number but it's still at "shipping information received". Strangely the origin country is Hong Kong not China. What's going on lol?
@juniorjohnson5961 4 жыл бұрын
I have the INVICTA it's a good watch , I have a Rolex and Omega but wear the INVICTA daily !
@peakrider4886 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Dan. Interesting topic and one which you could argue till the cows come home..I guess value for money is a personal thing and what one person may see as really good value for money someone else may not. For example, I recently got the latest Lorier Neptune, and at around £500 imported to U.K., it's not a cheap watch, but OMG it's simply stunning. But some would probably say that it's not good value for money with a Miyota movement in and an acrylic plexi crystal. I really like Steeldive, I think their watches are really good at the right price and the flieger one I have is very good. I think Pagani Design have had their high point with the 43mm Sub homage and the Daytona mechaquartz, possibly you could also include the Yachtmaster homage as well, but since these there have been issues and problems. The quality control on the GMT and the 40mm one you have has not been as good, and little quirky issues have started to creep in. As for the ultimate Submariner homage I think the San Martin comes pretty close, along with the Steinhart Ocean One and also the Phoebus PY007 but these last two are significantly more expensive and with Phoebus, really hard to get new as they are always sold out - maybe that says something about that watch!
@watchmewithwatches 4 жыл бұрын
Thats the beauty of being able to make these videos, its almost endless due to the many budgets out there! i think steeldive are on the right path to making great watches at really affordable prices. Pagani need to up their game at the moment.
@S-Ltd1000 3 жыл бұрын
Had a few Chinese watches in the past but there was always been something lacking. With everyone singing the praises of the Steeldive Willard I took a chance and picked one up a week ago. Excellent watch that's instantly become a favourite of mine.
@watchmewithwatches 3 жыл бұрын
They have so many hidden gems out there, and the more people tighten their belts, the more people will be drawn to these types of watch!
@23727bgk 4 жыл бұрын
I have been reviewing mostly Chinese made watches for around 5 years. No one can touch the quality and value available from these companies. The Swiss and the Japanese now have alot to be worried about!
@jb678901 3 жыл бұрын
IMO, if you want to spend $200-300 on a "Submariner" homage...the San Martin or Cronos seem to be an excellent choice. I do have the SteelDive ($99), which is also very good...though I did buy an aftermarket fully brushed bracelet (polished sides and machined clasp) for another $25. The SD bracelet does not do the watch justice, IMO.
@ch_the_3rd72 3 жыл бұрын
I cannot wait for my Steeldive Willard. It looks and sounds amazing. I am thinking about getting a Steeldive 1954 Oman. Which I assume will be just as good.
@watchmewithwatches 3 жыл бұрын
Good choice!
@rtsdrums 4 жыл бұрын
10:58 Thank you for the laugh.
@francisbawasanta6310 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a tinkerer. I like the idea of all the replacement parts for Parnis and Bliger watches. I can change bezels, crystals and hands and change lumes and customize faces for cheap . I wouldn't do that on my dad's Datejust or a real Rolex Sub myself. It's a nice, inexpensive way to learn about movements and servicing and you end up learning why the high end luxury watches cost so much from messing around with loud, Chinese, low qc movements. You also gain an appreciation of how good the value is on some of these are.
@watchmewithwatches 4 жыл бұрын
I agree, it's a fun way to get a feel for a design and to have a tinker before deciding what your grail watch could be!
@Sandman.68. 3 жыл бұрын
Steeldive are amazing. I have a few now, cannot be beaten, not even heimdallr ( lol, probably the same company 🤣) 👍👍
@bramhallbreakbones 4 жыл бұрын
Better value for money sub hommage - San Martin sub - around £155 and far supior. Best Sub homage for me HAS to be NTH - Nacken - around $650 but far better than anything else under 3 grand.
@Vintiqueture 3 жыл бұрын
Did you end up finding a good submariner homage? Orient is amazing but for a little more you can get the Steinhart (absolute stunner) 👍
@watchmewithwatches 3 жыл бұрын
I'm always looking at newer watches coming out, and a recently phylidas take on that watch is very good. They now do ot with the seiko nh35 which is interesting. Bit more expensive, but very nice.
@Vintiqueture 3 жыл бұрын
@@watchmewithwatches oh wow ... just checked out your Explorer homage video and I must say that Phylidas is beautiful 😭 Down the Chinese watch rabbit hole I go, lol
@baronbristow8764 2 жыл бұрын
Value is subjective. End of story. I’d prefer to have a base spec seiko than Chinese. I like the look of the San Martin watches - but I don’t think I’d actually want to wear it.
@gipgap4 3 жыл бұрын
I would like the Cadisen but I hate cyclops on watches.
@watchmewithwatches 3 жыл бұрын
A jet lighter can solve that problem. Not too hard to do and just be careful. Thanks for watching
@dodgydruid 3 жыл бұрын
I have a few subbie's, I think the best was a brand new Invicta pro diver in the blue and gold I snagged for £20, I have just bought a Ben Nevis "turtle" homage for the amazing price of just under a tenner and I got a £2 voucher for next purchase with the intention if the rubbishy lozenge quartz goes I will shove in a Miyota 2115. I am not a fan now really of the subbie, despite it being a Royal Navy design which set the market for diver watches ever since, I have got my eyes on a Cougeot in rose gold, coffee dial and bezel I quite like but any new watch has to fight me wearing my Russian and Soviet pieces and given a choice between an ancient Vostok Amphibia or one of my subbie homages, the Amphibia wins every time.
@TheJPshow67 Жыл бұрын
Bezel mechanism is cheap shit, but I guess you get what you pay for. My bezel action became very rough after awhile. I’ve come to learn that the devil is in the details when it comes to watches.
@watchalot919 4 жыл бұрын
The Parnis date adjust on mywatchcode is $69 (£57). Steeldive should be good, they are made in the same factory as Heimdallr, which are excellent
@karlsenula9495 4 жыл бұрын
Good to hear that Steeldive is made in the same factory as Heimdallr ... I was up in the air about whether to go for the Steeldive or Heimdallr Captain Willard. Steeldive is about $30-$35 cheaper. I have heard good things about both brands.
@violinmke 3 жыл бұрын
But you buy them ,they are prohibitably expensive to get serviced. Resale low. Quality issues ? What we can't establish yet is how many years can be got out of them. I have a Cadison 1032, a bliger sub, an invicta sub and a parnis. I believe they are trying to buy a share of the lower end market by selling low.
@onetwoxplore 3 жыл бұрын
Ginault Ocean Rover hand built in USA is the best Rolex super homage, but not dirt cheap. IMHO, the best part of a homage is capturing the design spirit of an age and not about duplicating an exact look. For example, the French brand, Baltic somehow captures the best of Blanc Pain and earliest Rolex/Tudor but charts a new course. The smaller lug width Baltic uses creates the evocative look of the 60s. In my opinion, Baltic is heading in the right direction. Just some thoughts. Note: Sounds like Paris, not “penis.” You guys are too funny. Everything is perspective, I guess :)
@wademullis7377 3 жыл бұрын
I have been very impressed by Chinese watches. I have bought a number of them and I really like them.
@watchmewithwatches 3 жыл бұрын
So many surprises out there, and Phylida are a new brand with watches I have been very impressed with. Have you seen any of their range? I've bought 4!
@wademullis7377 3 жыл бұрын
@@watchmewithwatches I haven't seen them yet but I will look.
@mattstolzman 3 жыл бұрын
New 39.5 mm Parnis Datejust looks better than the old smaller one with a butterfly clasp. Doesn't look cheap at all. I would agree, and say that Steeldive and Heimdallr are the best bang for your buck brands.
@watchmewithwatches 3 жыл бұрын
i agree, i want to check the parnis out actually.
@mattstolzman 3 жыл бұрын
@@watchmewithwatches which dial colour are you considering? Love your chanel, and I love your passion for watches. Thank you
@JasonTheWatchGuy 4 жыл бұрын
Love my chinese watches, I've become completely addicted lately, literally everything I review seems to be Chinese lately 😂
@watchmewithwatches 4 жыл бұрын
I agree mate, there is so much to choose from, and a lot of interest on how good can a watch this cheap really be?!
@abhishekgoyal4590 4 жыл бұрын
Please go to any chinese city you can get any watch in 10 usd to 80 usd aliexpress retails for 400 usd.. Chinese have problem of consumption and not production.. so very cheap last only 2 years so..
@grumpyoldman9259 3 жыл бұрын
Bought a China watch once, willl never buy again.
@watchmewithwatches 3 жыл бұрын
go on, try some more, there are soooooo many, they cant all be bad?
@drebarthelotte5712 3 жыл бұрын
I really love Chinese watches. They have the best spec for dollars spent and very little quality issues. I can't buy a basic seiko over these because I'm not getting a better watch.
@mason4354 2 жыл бұрын
You are pretty much skipping the middleman and buying from the manufacturer
@RobinhoodarrowsRHA 3 жыл бұрын
2020 award for most honest video goes to...... 👍👍👍
@watchmewithwatches 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!
@RobinhoodarrowsRHA 3 жыл бұрын
@@watchmewithwatches Youre very welcome 😊 Im hoping to have an SD1970 on order very soon.
@youputallprofessorstoshame5755 2 жыл бұрын
You’d be far better off getting an Orient in house automatic or even an Accurist
@karlsenula9495 4 жыл бұрын
Try San Martin for a Submariner watch. I like Watches channel did a ten part ten watch Submariner comparison - San Martin easily won.
@davidcoleman2463 4 жыл бұрын
Yes , but I went for the Steinhart Ocean one 39 . I just can't wear a Chinese watch !
@karlsenula9495 4 жыл бұрын
@@davidcoleman2463 it did well also.
@sukhjitsingh6288 3 жыл бұрын
Heimdallr make the best willard 6105 homage.
@squinkygordon1322 4 жыл бұрын
Great review! I understand they're decent quality but I hear you about the Parnis name... Easier to just move on to the next "branded" one, which would be virtually identical and more than likely made in the same factory; and not be named something close to "penis" or "phallus". No offense intended to any who owns one. It's just me... "Nice watch! What kind is it?" "It's an err...uh... Parnis." "A what?" "It's got an "R" in it!" I bought a San Martin 6105 homage recently and am blown away by the quality of it. Incredible watch for just over $200.00! I have a Steeldive on the way too. The Chinese are unbeatable on specs for the money!
@neilpiper9889 4 жыл бұрын
Of course Junkers watches are Junk then
@mimmo2341 4 жыл бұрын
If you think the name Parnis is bad how about Richard Legrande brand of watches? The name translates to Dick Large! 😂 I see a pattern here....
@davemck1887 4 жыл бұрын
I'm off to steel dive uk.com
@markbailey2713 2 жыл бұрын
I'll never buy a Chinese made product whilst alternatives exist.
@watchmewithwatches 2 жыл бұрын
What about Malaysian made watches?
@markbailey2713 2 жыл бұрын
@@watchmewithwatches of its a quality product and not a homage I'd certainly give it thought.
@LamarFaciane 4 жыл бұрын
I love this video! Everything is made in China to begin with so why not save money and get better quality by skipping the "branded" farce ✌🏽.
@watchmewithwatches 4 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how powerful branding really is. I also think a product that has been designed and invented to then be manufactured elsewhere is acceptable too. Here in the uk, a Dyson Hoover is designed and developed in the uk (at the moment) then made elsewhere, because making it here would not be as profitable! Trouble is, mr Dyson is a billionaire, so could probably afford to not be quite so filthy rich and celebrate making the products on the uk too!
@RJ-cq8dd 3 жыл бұрын
Even if I had unlimited funds I'd still rather sport a Pagani Design than a Rolex. I like their line of watches but not their business practise. The value for money just isn't there anymore with Rolex.
@Nicods 4 жыл бұрын
I bought a Cadisen 8097 from AliExpress for 76€ (about 83 US$) and it's an incredible value for money, high beats premium movement, double sapphire glass, double deployant clasp etc... Wow! Perfectly polished case, no defects at all, except for the leather strap, I like the clasp but the genuine leather is all but genuine... I'm going to buy a better strap for 10-20€ and use it with the original clasp. Oh, I forgot (this is just luck) it gains less than 1 sec per day on average. I cannot believe it cost that price, its much better on the wrist than in videos or photos. I also bought during AliExpress 10th birthday sales a Seagull Ocean Star Inter Milan Commemorative Edition (Internazionale FC made 3 Commemorative sea-gull watches for its 110th birthday via their Chinese property, Suning) a GMT diver's watch with a high quality but... It's stuck at the customs, I don't know if it's because of the covid 19 or they have just made some mistakes with the export documents, I hope it will pass the check eventually, but I ordered it 3 months ago, I'll give them 2 more weeks before asking for a refund, but I want my seagull, not a refund. I paid some 260€,about 285 US$, it's an incredible value for money in theory. I don't buy copies or homages. Ps: sorry for my English, I'm not a native speaker, I studied English leterature but never really spoken it. 😁
@possumsam2189 4 жыл бұрын
Probably the most unique Sea-gull watch is the 815.18.1008H
@watchmewithwatches 4 жыл бұрын
Well, your English is better than many people I know. Who are english!
@abhishekgoyal4590 4 жыл бұрын
Tianjin movement are eta copies.. chinese cheap movement are japanese copy..
@willywantoknow2563 3 жыл бұрын
😄ive always thought it but never said it, who would want to wear a "penis" brand watch on wrist?
@glenh4971 3 жыл бұрын
Chinese watches aren't really good for collecting. Find one you like and you can afford. Maybe buy a couple more if you want. Then you can be done with it. The watches have almost no residual value. They are just for fun. If you don't have much money you can afford to own one of these watches. My favorite happens to be Vostoc. You can find your own favorite. I would not enjoy handing over a large amount of money for a wrist watch. I don't have the money to use in that way.
@watchmewithwatches 3 жыл бұрын
I think its more an issue of them being addictive! It can feel rewarding buying another watch for a reasonable cost and be impressed by it in many ways.
@leonidaskaragiannis7875 3 жыл бұрын
Difficult time for a good, original watch. I'm obligating for chinese replica watches. Bad quality, but cheaper than the other and here is the trap. It's shame for me
@paulsteele6120 4 жыл бұрын
Geez, your going to have drawers full of homage pieces before you buy a quality watch,skip the chase and go straight for the very best that you can afford. If you stay within reasonable parameters you will get a watch that when you look at it you say "Yes".
@test123 4 жыл бұрын
Good luck selling pagani or parnis for 80% of you payed for, tough job trading used Chinese watches. Especially with submariner without cyclop and without 3 hour marker :)
@Starstreak170 4 жыл бұрын
Would trading a $40 watch be even worth the time and money?
@test123 4 жыл бұрын
@@Starstreak170 If I can sell old one then it's ok to buy new, It's one way of keeping addiction of buying watches under control.
@karlsenula9495 4 жыл бұрын
Not everyone buys a watch to resell. I don't. The cheap ones I upgrade out of I will just regift to a young nephew.
@test123 4 жыл бұрын
@@karlsenula9495 Yea I can also give them for free or for 1/3 of price, but where is there value for money - with is subject of this video? Also my younger cosunes like new stuff more than used :)
@oktc68 Жыл бұрын
Not knocking the watches you featured in this video, I had a Steeldive SD1970, pukka watch +2 SPD day in, day out. Gave it to my nephew and it continues to maintain great time keeping. Outstanding lume too. My own experience is that you can get something much better for around £150. Seestern Sub 300 for example, is a really well made watch, head anyway, bracelet looks great but doesn't have the best articulation, although on wrist that's not an issue. You can always change the bracelet... You can pick up some of the San Martin watches for around the £150 mark too, I think what you get for a little extra money is more consistent quality. Side by side with a £500 Seiko (which will most likely have the same movement if they're both automatic) the Chinese watch will put the Japanese watch to shame. Double your budget again to £300 and you can have a solidly made, quality case with something Swiss powering it ( got a very nice Heimdallr Captain Willard homage with an ETA 2824-2 movement for £250 a couple of years back) Whilst I appreciate the hard wearing ceramic bezel insert, aesthetically I prefer aluminium, many of these Chinese brands will make small changes like that if you ask them. Great video Dan, thanks.
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