Sonos Arc vs. Samsung HW-Q90R

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An in-depth overview of Sonos' and Samsungs' flagship soundbars the Arc and HW-Q90R. I keep score. Worked hard on this one ... hope you enjoy
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@juliantetteh4336 3 жыл бұрын

Your review was what I have been waiting for.👌👌👌👌👌

@wilsonmanch6773 3 жыл бұрын

Nice. The comparison I needed.

@Starace65 3 жыл бұрын

You seem like you have a good sense of humor, so I hope I can say this without offending .... As soon as I saw your ears I knew this was the guy I wanted to listen to about sound quality! Great holistic review.

@2CHUNKA 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome video mate! Love your style and humor. Definitely subbed :)

@MikeTechsItOut 3 жыл бұрын

Great Video! I'm using a receiver with 10,000 wires connected to get Dolby Atmos in my living room so I've really been considering going the soundbar route. I really like how you emphasized how important the ecosystem and future upgradability are when making the choice to spend thousands of dollars on a sound system.

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

I first got into Sonos over 7 years ago to avoid wires - fewer options back then. Never going back. I hope my kids kids never have to see a wire 😂. Thanks for taking the time to comment.

@methdxman 3 жыл бұрын

I had a Denon receiver with two speakers and a sub, and even that was just too messy and made my living room look ugly. The arc is a bit of a sacrifice in terms of sound quality and power but I'm looking to add the Sub Gen 3 to my setup... everthing is so clean... and being able to more easily stream music from my phone or using voice controls to activate music... you can't beat it. My denon allowed me to stream music from my phone but it was just way too slow to get activated.

@lorenzocarrillo9805 Жыл бұрын

High end presentation. Well done!

@dbtalks20 3 жыл бұрын

Liked and subed for your efforts and not making a video boring to stick till last. Btw.. ordered Sonos Arc.

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

I roll with Sonos too. Even after being tempted by other bars. Appreciate the sub. Thanks for reaching out!

@henriklaporte8557 Жыл бұрын

You make a great work thanks....

@melp9884 3 жыл бұрын

Been waiting for this

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

I suggest getting a snack and beverage - it got kind of long.

@dougquaid570 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for validating my purchase.

@lazolabucwa8821 3 жыл бұрын

Best soundbar comparison on KZfaq. Plus you're hilarious 🤣

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

I appreciate the feedback! Glad you got something out of it.

@0dyss3us51 3 жыл бұрын

@@neverenoughtech the editing was hilarious indeed

@DrairoOrtiz 3 жыл бұрын

Great review with great sound effect🤣! Points seems fair well detailed. Warranties and tec support is another point there to discuss. Liked and subscribed!

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

Hmmm good point. I might just follow that advice. Thanks for the sub!

@fudpukker 3 жыл бұрын

@@neverenoughtech Only relevant for USA. Won't mater for me in sunny South Africa...

@WhiskeyGroove 2 жыл бұрын

"The sexy gap" lol. Great review and well done!

@haydenbingham7943 Жыл бұрын

Amazing review

@bbqislife 3 жыл бұрын

Wow I watched your video 3 times, I still don’t know how you do it. I’m a ‘no video more then 5 mins kind of guy’ but your reviews are just so damn captivating. Anyway, after watching it 3 times I threw in the towel and went with the Sonos Arc, Sub and a pair of SLs. We currently have a deal going on in the U.K. where you can trade in selected Sonos items and get 30% off towards a Sonos item. I picked up two Sonos Bridges off EBay for £10 each and them to offset the price of the Arc and the sub. Total price including SLs came to £1367. Can’t wait for them to arrive and never used a Sonos product before. Looking forward to future videos 👍

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

Glad the videos work for you. My main system is Sonos and I’ve had plenty of chances to switch ... so I hope you enjoy it too. More videos coming ... wish I could be quicker but way too many other responsibilities.

@rochdalestani 3 жыл бұрын

I never knew about this, glad I came across your comment! Looking at eBay now but Ts and Cs do say they need to be registered to your account and don’t know if they’ll accept 2 bridges?!

@jpekki 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent, well balanced video, which truly helps you making up your mind between Q90R and Sonos ARC by providing you with a lot of information about their features, strengths and weaknesses.

@Rob_Ahern 3 жыл бұрын

Nonsense. It's extremely sonos biased.

@CoryBaker92 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, this helped quite a bit.

@anilgeorge5591 3 жыл бұрын

Great review! I wish you published it few weeks earlier! I bought the Samsung Q90R and as you rightly pointed out, the rear speaker volume is disappointing as it’s only tuned for Dolby Atmos.....no reviews I read pointed this out like you did....I miss the surround sound experience that I was expecting while playing music....I Guess arc does provide that since the rear speakers are independent stereo speakers...once again, great review!

@yvanokuba1649 3 жыл бұрын

Anil the rear speakers do work even without Dolby Atmos mode. What happens is that if you frequently change modes and settings especially through smart-things app, the rear speakers might go off until u select the surround mode. When u select surround, they all turn on and then as for me who prefers Adaptive sound i later on select Adaptive mode and still the rear speakers will stay on. Q90R is giant that most people don't know how to use. Once u master it, a Sono will be a joke

@RemoCaspi 3 жыл бұрын

@@yvanokuba1649 I second this, you can use the rear speakers with Surround Mode or Adaptive Mode. There is a button on the remote labeled ‘Sound Mode’ you can press to alternate between them. The Dolby Atmos will come on automatically depending on the content.

@RITC44 3 жыл бұрын

I'm just going to say, this was the most amazing review I have ever watched. I bought the Arc over the weekend for my new LG CX. Coming from full blown surround sound setups, I'm new to the sound bar game but my wife wants to minimize clutter (speakers and such). I like it but I'm just not sure if I could get more bang for my buck. I've researched so many sound bars in my price point that I almost feel like curling up into a ball and crying lol

@rkw221 3 жыл бұрын

amen! in same boat here... starting to consider a '70s Era transistor radio & wired (yellowed white 20 guage wire) 'headphones'.... or just grabbing the JVC Ext1 system headphones for now. There are more compromises, though different, with each soundbar system. Just want to enjoy great HT in my land yacht as I wander to & from while waiting to die. I did find source for real movie theater popcorn supplies and bought a countertop movie style maker so that's covered...now just that pesky great theater sound to create...once done just cruise the AZ desert BLM lands listening for the subs pounding while the area 51 aliens finally attack and you'll find me... unless I'm using those HT headphones that day. Really though, there is a lot to absorb and as one of my fav YT reviewers say there is that FOMO really mucking things up...

@NeloAlvarez1113 2 жыл бұрын

@RIT44 I feel this. My wife wants to remove clutter in our new new. I have a dolby atmos klipsch set up to an open floor plan. Im looking for a dolby atmos wireless system. What do you think is best for the CX

@skylineluva34 3 жыл бұрын

Really clear and concise review. Well done. I have both systems and you are correct in all your assessments. I wanted to add that the Q90R is also way more susceptible to wireless frequencies that consumers may have in their homes. Routers, Gateways or Airaves wreaks havoc on the Q90R’s Sub. It’s been like that since the HW-K950. I’ll be moving away from Samsung because of that. They’re terrible and not very consumer friendly.

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tips and feedback. I’ll look into the interference issues more closely on my next review 👍

@sourabhkosaria5095 3 жыл бұрын

Great review

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@venkatgudi2997 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man, I was confused between both the sound bars since I have a Samsung tv and thought Q would be a better pick due to compatibility. But since I live in an apartment Sonos would serve me better.

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

I didn’t find the Samsung soundbar/tv integration to be stellar. You can’t even really use the Q90R in an apartment - I agree Sonos is a good choice for you 👍

@Sumbibebe Жыл бұрын

Very entertaining👍🏾

@sharonenoghreheian13 3 жыл бұрын

Fantastic review! Thank you

@danyswa 3 жыл бұрын

Your video is amazing 😉

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for taking the time to write! I deserve to be booed bc I’ve taken so long but I have another comparison coming hopefully tomorrow night ... maybe Wed. Just in time to compete with Apple’s big announcement 😆

@FaroMarge 3 жыл бұрын

I have had the Samsung Q80R sound bar for approximately a year now, which is connected to my Samsung TV. It cost slightly over $1,000. And came only with the sound bar and sub woofer, no rear speakers. I, personally like it , but, have been issues with the sound bar not turning on even though connected through ARC. I’ll keep using this sound bar due to the quality of sound , but would highly recommend buying a set up that does come with the rear speakers included for such a high price.

@AndyWolfe 3 жыл бұрын

Great review. Your description of features, pros and cons is excellent. Funny and informational. Question: I have 16 foot vaulted ceilings. Would that have a negative impact on the 3d sound quality because the upward facing speakers wouldn't have that traditional (7', 8', 9' ) flat ceiling to bounce sound off of?

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

Well I have a 14’ (jealous) vaulted ceiling. It’s really not ideal honestly (it adds an additional compromise to a list when doing 3D sound with a SB) ... I don’t do my sound testing in this room. It will degrade overall precision

@jerrystevens8428 3 жыл бұрын

Great review! This was the comparison that I’ve wanted to see and believe most would also like to see, two very good products going head to head. Although the scoring was subjective (and tongue-in-cheek) what really counted was hitting on all of the features and functions that a consumer should be aware of and consider. My takeaway... It seems if you’re primarily interested in TV sound and not so much music then you might prefer the Q. For me music streaming is just as important as the TV sound along with the future proofing and flexibility offered by Sonos. Thanks for the great review and some humor along the way to help get through this!

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

I think you had a perfect read on the purpose of the video and my conclusions. Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

@limtson123 3 жыл бұрын

@trizio4248 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for review sound bar in my price range. Usually reviewers will review sound bars double or triple the price of this sound bar.

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

These are both pretty expensive for sure. Glad they are in your range. If not in the future, let me know if other SBs you are interested in. Thanks for reaching out!

@jcruz6453 3 жыл бұрын

Love my sonos setup with the arc.

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

Me too ... when it’s actually hooked up in front of my tv and not on my YT review desk. 😖😀

@jcruz6453 3 жыл бұрын

@@neverenoughtech I'm coming from a cheap samsung 2.1 soundbar, so I'm blown away. It also just looks the part, like a piece of art lol.

@Golfnut1913 3 жыл бұрын

@@jcruz6453 yes, thats a pretty basic sound bar for a small room. I have the 7.1 curved sound bar and sub. When it came out it was bad ass. Still very good sound quality but its out dated now

@ernestohernandez9370 3 жыл бұрын

yeah me too I have a lg sk9y soundbar with dolby atmos. and it doesn't even compare to sonos arc setup at all.I was playing call of duty beta in the Xbox one x and wow the sound is amazing.

@zufu35 2 жыл бұрын

Great review. I wondered if the arc is named that because you need to have an eArc tv to fully support it :D

@mobius6772 2 жыл бұрын

These were 2 of the 3 options for my budget when looking for a home theater system. I originally wanted the Bose Lifestyle 650 system but the price was insane. Out of all the reviews and videos that I watched, I ended up going with the Nakamichi Shockwafe Ultra 9.2.4 system and WOW, just amazing for the price. Took a little tweaking to get the sound the way I wanted but this system rattles my eyeballs. For movies I set it to MOVIE preset and Dolby Atmos Surround Treble:8 Center:8 Base:7 SS:9 SB:9 -For TV and Music I set it to ALL CHANNEL STEREO Treble:8 Center:8 Base:6 SS:9 SB:9 You will not have buyers remorse if you get this system, can't speak about the others.

@musicmann1967 3 жыл бұрын

I have to thank you for this review. It was tongue in cheek, yes, but you made a lot of excellent points. Given the fact that so many people are very happy with the sound of the Arc anyway, the fact that it is technically more adaptive and forward thinking is a big thing. I currently own a crappy Polk Audio budget system, and I'm increasingly unhappy with it, purely on a sonic level. So I'm on the hunt for a big upgrade, and I think Sonos is it! (I wish the sub wasn't so damn expensive thougH! ughh!! lol) Thanks!

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

If you are interested in whole home audio, already have a bunch of Sonos speakers, like having a built in mic, want mature control software, I’d suggest that being a good place to highly consider Sonos. If it’s only about TV sound Samsung takes it. The entire Arc HT setup with SLs and a Sub is not really far off a Samsung flagship bar (right now the Q950T). If you get a Sonos Sub / surrounds, you would likely be able to use it across at least two generations of Sonos soundbars making the future upgrade less expensive as it will transfer. I mentioned this but maybe is worth repeating given your very understandable hesitancy about sub cost. The Sonos sound meets/exceeds expectations for most. There is a subculture that is rather focused on proliferation of channels and highest quality renders of 3D sound that probably would not be that well served by Sonos.

@musicmann1967 3 жыл бұрын

@@neverenoughtech Yeah i get that. I personally don't care as much about the 3D aspect of things. I'm much more interested in a focused and punchy sound. I probably won't use surrounds at all.

@marc-andrechartrand1862 3 жыл бұрын

One thing to note looking at Rtings reviews is that they review soundbars out of the box only so without any tweaking at all. Sonos’s lower scores are due to that which they acknowledged by the way. They are planning to change their testing methodology (similar to TVs/monitors). Sonos’s speakers are built to play either by itself or all together so require optimization when they are together. I’ve reviewed and compared the LG SN11RG, Q90r and the Sonos Arc (with sub and rears) before making my decision due to lack of good reviews and it was no contest. Good job including things that most reviewers don’t (display, app, upgradability)!

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

I totally agree RTings while good intentioned are providing full considerations of the product. And it does seem to be an overemphasis on Max volume performance ... I alluded to weaknesses. Maybe I’m dense but I didn’t catch which model LG, Q90, or Sonos (Arc?) was your favorite. Curious to know.

@marc-andrechartrand1862 3 жыл бұрын

NeverEnoughTech Like you mentioned, everyone has (and should have) a different rating scale in their mind due to budget, Apple/not, etc. Sonos won my comparison. They just sound better. The subwoofer is killing the competition (range and impact) and the sound quality of the rears is just better (true dedicated speakers vs a chain). Even though it’s a more expensive setup, if you amortize it over 5 to 10 years and including resale value, Sonos is on the top. Also, like you mentioned, the Samsung app is atrocious. Plus it’s an American company vs Korea. Local support :)

@andrewthomas3270 3 жыл бұрын

I only discovered your channel today as I am researching the Arc and what a Quality discovery it is. Watched 2 of your Arc videos and easily the best reviewer on KZfaq IMO and I have subbed 😋 Could you answer something for me please if you don’t mind, has Sonos improved the Bass output now as I keep reading/hearing it’s the downside of its sound? Thank you and keep up the Quality ♥️👏👏

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

Do you mean out of the bass module or the bars? I don’t think the Sonos bass is phenomenal but not sure why people would pick on it in particular. I see Samsung and LG as much more vulnerable in that dept. You can adjust the bass level in both the EQ and speaker volume. Should be able to find the right mix for you

@TK-jl5wu 3 жыл бұрын

You are really great! Thanks for your video!

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! The encouragement means a lot.

@omega9omega924 3 жыл бұрын

You’re a very smart guy brother, keep up the good work, oh, is there a difference from HDMI costing $89, to One that’s cheaper but does the exact same thing? I recently bought the Monoprice ultra 8k highspeed eArc cable from Amazon for $10 I have it hooked to my Sonos arc to my Sony 9g oled tv . Thanks

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

www.cnet.com/news/why-all-hdmi-cables-are-the-same/ I agree with this assessment.

@omega9omega924 3 жыл бұрын

NeverEnoughTech thanks 🙏

@chordkeys 3 жыл бұрын

Hi, great review. Do you know if the sound bars add latency to the output video signal when you use the passthrough?

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve had latency issues at time but it does not seem to be related to whether it’s plugged into the bar or tv

@miguelt6428 3 жыл бұрын

Q90 is my favorite system i own, amazing sound and epic bass, I only max it out at 30% volume other wise I'm shaking the house

@skateforevers 3 жыл бұрын

people says q90r has cut out issues with rears and sub because of wireless , did u get any issue like this?

@jaimyrl 3 жыл бұрын

I got the q90r and I don't have any problems, its a great system 👌🏻

@umansur24 3 жыл бұрын

Same here!

@pdaeng 3 жыл бұрын

@@skateforevers set the 5Gz of your wifi route to channel less than 100, the issue is gone

@joejoe6949 3 жыл бұрын

I have the first Sonos sound bar and i think it sounds amazing

@Markspencer7808 3 жыл бұрын

Nice video. Very informative. Sounds like neither is just right for me. I’m hoping the bar 54 from klipsh will be the answer I’m looking for.

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

Appreciate the feedback. I’m genuinely curious ... what boxes are the Arc and Q90 not checking? It will help me get a little smarter in this space.

@Markspencer7808 3 жыл бұрын

NeverEnoughTech Mainly the larger sub and the ability to add a wired sub. Knowing that I can add bass is a plus. So it has the Atmos qualities of the Q with more sub options than Q or Arc. The only thing it lacks thats important to me seemingly (since I haven’t actually heard it yet) is the cool physical design of the Arc. So IF it sounds better or I can customize it to make it sound better then that would make it my pick. Sound quality is more important than appearance.

@oldsnwbrdr 3 жыл бұрын

I have a feeling the Klipsch will have more powerful upward firing speakers than the other ATMOS bars.

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the reply. The Sonos sub is pretty strong. Have you had a chance to hear one in action - at its different volume settings? I agree that sound should win over looks ... but if the sound is quite good then I think overall/balanced experience is more important than exceedingly good sound (for my purposes)

@Markspencer7808 3 жыл бұрын

NeverEnoughTech I have heard the arc and sub in a Best Buy. Obviously not the best listening environment and no idea what level the sub was set to. I do like that they give a chance to listen to it in your environment and return it if you don’t love it. May take them up on it.

@timpage9424 3 жыл бұрын

Currently saving up for a sound bar and there's just so many out there. My goodness, I'll pull the trigger at some point. 😂

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like you are being mature about it ... I recommend not being shy about returning if you have the option and the bar you choose is not meeting expectations ... takes pressure off

@timpage9424 3 жыл бұрын

@@neverenoughtech That's a great point honestly. I'm thinking as of now to either go with the Arc+Sub or the JBL 9.1 bar, but I'll cross the bridge when I have the $1,000-1,500 saved up. 😂

@SliderFury1 3 жыл бұрын

@@timpage9424 hey, no idea if you will see this but what did you end up going with? I'm stuck between those two options myself…

@yazbrink6486 3 жыл бұрын

Hi, could you do a review on the Harmon Kardon citation line? Would like to get your opinion. Which set would you compare those with, Sonos, Samsung, JBL etc. Thanks voor video's!

@MrRaghavann 3 жыл бұрын

i have a 1080p bluray player which supports true hd lossless. Can i play a lossless atmos file from my hard disk connected to bluray player or only physical disk can play atmos?

@DibbiDu2 3 жыл бұрын

Meter Units (Even if only in addition) would be great! Greetings from Germany.

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

Well taken - I’ll aim to do that in my next video - thanks for reaching out

@caseyhill 3 жыл бұрын

How would you compare the HW-Q90R with the newer HW-Q950T? It seems the newer version is much cheaper and you can't really find anyone selling the HW-Q90R except on eBay. Thoughts?

@raymasters13 3 жыл бұрын

Did you have any issues with dialogue with the Samsung? I just bought that system and set it up and it seems like the surround is working great (sound effects etc) but the dialogue seems quiet. I'm planning to update with latest firmware. Also does the hdmi cable that was provided work better than an optical cable? I believe my TV does support eARC. Thanks in advance and great vid.

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

Code Red Alert: Optical is vastly inferior to ARC - I pointed this out in previous videos but not this one. It’s a legacy port don’t use it unless you have to. I have not had any issue pop out at me regarding dialogue. I traded in the Q90R for the Q950T. I’ll be a little more discerning about dialogue volume. If you are unsure if your TV supports eARC you can always plug your media device directly into the bar though that is really only necessary at this point with something like a blue ray player or perhaps via a PC stream with full-quality A/V. eARC is not buying you much if you are streaming.

@faajbuhr 3 жыл бұрын

Hey, great reviews man! How does the Sonos ARC + sub + ones compare with the LG SN11RG ? I’ve been waiting for a comparison of those 2

@brandonhandley488 3 жыл бұрын

Ive seen this review. I bought the 11 and took it back. I was in your boat yesterday. There Is NO comparison. Sonos is hands down 10 miles better.

@namtao15 3 жыл бұрын

Good stuff man freakin funny 😆

@alancaster00 3 жыл бұрын

When you play music via spotify connect, does the last song ends abruptly a few seconds before the end?

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

I did not notice that with either system . I have more more issues, in general, using Spotify with voice ... though Sonos handles voice much better than Samsung. But I can certainly believe it’s something you are experiencing. Issues never surprise me. Is this a persistent problem or something you noticed acting up yesterday?

@kojak362010 3 жыл бұрын

Well I made it to the end and was entertained by the humor. I would however point out that the Sonos Arc must have more power than the Samsung Q because each speaker is driven by its own amplifier. Also the calibration system for the Arc is called Trueplay not true tone. I found with my Arc that I got the best sound for my room after running Trueplay and spending more time walking around my seating area and spending less time near the center of the Arc. Trueplay tends to lower the dialog volume if you get to close to the ARC . After running trueplay again using this method I was shocked by the difference in sound quality. Not that it sounded bad before, but it sounds even better after. The dialog is loud clear and the rest of the sound from the sub and rear speakers are much more balanced. I also love that the Sonos Arc has an incredibly wide front Soundstage. Prior to upgrading to the Arc I had the Bose Soundtouch 300 5.1 system and when I got that system it was outstanding. The sound quality was the best I had ever experienced with a soundbar based system. The Arc blows the Soundtouch away. I have moved the soundtouch to another room and it still sounds great and I am not willing to part with it completely but the Arc is just better sound and way better software. I'm glad to see that the Arc won the review it really is an impressive system.

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

Hi, I really have low hopes that any would make it to the end ... this one got kind of long and well there is endless great content out there. So, I appreciate the time you took to watch and write. You know there was this little faint voice in my head hinting I was saying trueplay incorrectly. I guess I felt like it should be ignored. Thanks for letting me know ... I probably won't make that mistake again. I wanted to compare total power on the bars but Sonos seems to be a bit cagey about it or maybe I didn't dig enough. My practical conclusion was that I really can't get anywhere close to max volume on either bar/system ... especially in my more echoey living room ... so I say power is sufficient. I have not yet had my ahhha moment with truetone - I am often moving speakers from room to room and just never get around to setting it up. I am glad to hear that you have had success with it - motivates me to take it more seriously. There is a fair chance you have a better ear than me as well. Don't get me wrong I think the Arc sounded really good and I think the RTings scoring method does not really get at what Arc might be trying to do with the sound ... nor does it capture the total experience ... but I did get the impression (along with a few other onlookers) that the Q did have the edge in overall Atmos delivery in terms of (let's get real) faking the effect ... that a more traditional and professionally installed system (with actual overhead speakers) can deliver. I have exceedingly little patience for tech rough edges (unless I'm tinkering on purpose) and the Qs user interface and design is clearly not 'there' - just doesn't have that Sonos shine. Samsung, I feel tries to compensate for bad software and overall experience with crazy specs (as i mentioned in the vid) ... I think it's a flawed strategy but it can lead to wow moments . The HW-Q950T, very recently released, is a 9.1.4 system ... I'd prefer that Samsung just improve the experience as opposed to cramming more speakers into the bar. Though can't wait to review it.

@snjau5279 3 жыл бұрын

"The sexy gap is quite wide" 😱🤣!

@user-gb6rw1kv5t 7 ай бұрын

Hi Dan do you think it is a big leap in sound performance/worth updating to the Q990c if I already have the Q90R? Gday from an Aussie Dan 👍🏻

@neverenoughtech 7 ай бұрын

Are you dissatisfied with the Q90R? That system is a truck but you would probably be pleased with the extra 4 channels in terms of spatial performance …. I think this depends on whether the cost of the q990c is somewhat trivial or a big investment. I also think Samsung is going to reveal something significantly different in the next few months so may be worth waiting for that as it may be extra fun to skip the whole T-C generation and form factor and see what’s next.

@AnchorFTW 3 жыл бұрын

15:46 "What? It's true. I'm not your mom." 🤣🤣

@Wilbgr8 3 жыл бұрын

After reviewing the Sonos Arc with 2 s1's and the Samsung 850a with subwoofer, honestly it sounds better!! I'm tempted to purchase the Samsung 900a and team it with the wireless 9500s speakers, to see if this combination will still beat the arc! I despise the cloth, it will not age well and the ability to add more speakers to the arc is a nice feature but the Samsung sound is just better hands down!! I'm unsure how or why everyone says the Arc beats the samsung 950. Price alone you get more bang for your buck.

@erikmast4089 3 жыл бұрын

Samsung software support ends after only 1 year, still waiting for earc and 4 channel stereo on my HW-N950. Would take this in your considerations when choosing a soundbar.

@user-th6il6zp8q 3 жыл бұрын

Hi! I have a question for you (by the way I really like your videos, very clear and understandable even for me, an Italian). I have to decide which soundbar under €1000 to buy and I m not sure in this choice: I would go with the JBL 9.1, but also the Sonos Arc seems very good. Which would you choose? Or do you have a better alternative? (€1000 is the limit I can’t go beyond, so I wouldn’t buy a separate subwoofer). Thankyou and continue with your great videos!

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

What would be the most important aspect of your soundbar? 3D sound, good general sound, or ecosystem?

@user-th6il6zp8q 3 жыл бұрын

NeverEnoughTech The main one would be the surround, something that makes me feel like I m at the cinema. The second aspect would ve music reproduction (but I use only Spotify Premium 320) with both good bass and good highs (I love House music but also very different genres like opera/classical music).

@oscarsoto1384 3 жыл бұрын

You definitely funny and very smart, GREAT information. Keep up the good work. Both great sound bars still don't know which one to pick. 😫 😳 Don't know which one works best for my 82" Samsung Q90R please HELP ME. Your my only help.

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

I appreciate the feedback, though I’m quite certain there are other YTbers out there that could probably give perhaps more complete advice. Let’s try this. If you are really seeking QUALITY 3D SOUND with upward firing speakers you are going to want to have perhaps a couple feet or more behind you to place the speakers. And be able to place them about 60 degrees from the center line. You should have a somewhat spacious watching space with probably ~9ft flat ceilings and I’d say over 5 meters of width and over 6 meters of depth. Ideally it would be a rectangular room with few architectural elements that may cause strange reflections. As you would be counting on reflections not only from the ceiling but from the walls (left and right channels), you will want a certain level of sound reflectivity (with a traditional atmos speaker setup with forward Left and Right channels and in-ceiling speakers, you want to reduce reflectivity) - so drapes/fabric is gonna degrade the experience. Also for really solid atmos you will want to be using a lot of physical media ...I if you meet all this criteria (which I don’t), and good 3D sound is you #1 goal, you should definitely pick the Q over the Sonos. If your room really is not all that compatible and you will mostly be streaming, well, the Arc starts to look better as it provides a much more well rounded user experience - I’d say even in fairly non ideal circumstances delivering something better than 5.1 - if not really achieving the promise of Atmos. Sorry can’t provide a magic answer but maybe this info may be of some use

@ecto1ghost 3 жыл бұрын

As a whole, yes a bit long. BUT! You were both reviewing AND comparing 2 different systems, so some points had to be reinforced. Fantastic video though, great matchup!!

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

@tuolumne9 3 жыл бұрын

Lol you’re such a Sonos Snob. I love it.

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

It is a running theme that gets me a lot of 👎. Thanks for the support!

@davidholden5837 3 жыл бұрын

Very fair review i have the q its awesome for atmos and very good for music I have had no issues with rear speakers disconnecting,the rear speakers volume is a little low but I bought rear speaker stands to move them closer to the listening position which really helps.if you want a soundbar for movies go for the q its really really good.

@TINGSTARR 3 жыл бұрын

Another great video. Your style is very entertaining and funny. I’m a SONOS (life style) guy. I watched for the entertainment value. Be well.

@Rob_Ahern 3 жыл бұрын

It's a sonos fan boy video. Nothing more.

@mjpogi4397 3 жыл бұрын

I will still choose q90r, i prefer better audio quality than extra features

@irvincasanueva3423 3 жыл бұрын

Mj Pogi by no means that Samsung sorround system has better audio quality than the Sonos. But by all means you can go ahead and swing for q90r

@niazniaz4773 3 жыл бұрын

He is a sonos promotor ignore him bro buy what ever u want he will include some extraordinary spec thats only support sonos 🤣🤣🤣🤣 like sonos logo letter sharper than samsung 🤣🤣😂😂

@ernestohernandez9370 3 жыл бұрын

@@irvincasanueva3423 you are right I can't really imagine anything sounding much better than the sonos arc setup I was playing call of duty beta on xbox one x and wow i was blown away by the sound quality 😳.

@ernestohernandez9370 3 жыл бұрын

@@niazniaz4773 dude this is my first time ever buying sonos product's and wow the sonos arc setup is amazing the sound quality is like nothing I have ever heard for home use it truly is awesome i was playing call of duty black ops beta on xbox one x and wow its amazing.

@DogStyel 3 жыл бұрын

@@ernestohernandez9370 i went to best buy and test all the sound bar by far the sonos have the best audio quality very clear and crispy than the samsung. For the Bass the sonos was really good i also like that it doesnt shake ur whole house like the samsung, overall if u install the sound bars in ur bed room buy sonos. If u the type that love hearing bass shaking ur living room get the samsung that how i compare the 2. But the sonos quality really good is like u buying a Mac book over a Pc which is the samsung.

@ranga55 3 жыл бұрын

How crucial is the sub to the Arc? Living in a fairly small NYC condo with neighbors below and next door, doubt I can turn up the bass much. Will be getting two of the SLs for surround, but Sonos has the sub for $100 off on Black Friday....so fairly torn. Helpful video overall.

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe skip the sub and set the bass a little higher in the app. What I would do if worried about disturbing neighbors

@ubermenschx 3 жыл бұрын

good vid; helped make a choice

@JMJWill 3 жыл бұрын

Samsung Q800T and Q900 2020 model TV, 8K support eARC

@eii8794 3 жыл бұрын

Hey big Guy! Are you a fan of the Nakamichi ultra 9.2. Would you consider this over the Sonas ARC sound bar, sub, and 2 SL's? Thanks

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

I have not et experienced the Nakamichi. But it is a relatively frequent request in the comments so I do have ever intention of getting to it.

@KlaasjanM 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this review. Now the prices of the Q90 drops, i thinks the Q90 is interesting , but i'm concerned about the rear speakers. Most of the time i use the soundbar for TV. Can you confirm that the Q90 is a good choice for that use and especially that price(!). Or is the HW-q80r with samsung SWA 9000S rearspakers (separate receiver for the rear speakes) is the better choice for me. ? And can I use my own remote control to controle the sound level (using CEC hdmi)?

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

I am advising that Q90R is up there amongst the top choice for TV-only use - especially considering the price drop. Yes you can use your own remote to adjust volume - I certainly did in testing with my LGC9. The Q90R provided remote can adjust eq, sound mode, channel levels etc. Expect a really impactful sound with a bug here and there but the more you just stick with TV sound the less those other bugs will pop up.

@peternystrom921 3 жыл бұрын

@@neverenoughtech Great review, i bought a Q90/96 for 750USD. If both where full price say Q90 1500 USD, i would go for a ARC and then buy the rest a few months later. But the Q90 for 750-900USD seems to be the best value.

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

Peter Nyström with a price cut that steep, I think you are right about the value proposition. In particular if you are not entrenched in the Sonos eco system. A solo Sonos soundbar is perhaps not as valuable as a Sonos soundbar with some Sonos Ones in the kitchen providing a MultiRoom audio experience. This is something I really care about but maybe am unique as it seems most see a soundbar as just a tv extension - perhaps not a multifunction device. Clearly Samsung wins when just talking tv sound enhancer - just have to weigh that well above average ability with below average user experience (bugs, limited app control) Every customer has their own weighting calculations

@makoy3914 2 жыл бұрын

hi do you think sonos is good for karaoke machine for singing i know PA speaker is for singing but i want sonos for my living room and use it for singing too

@neverenoughtech 2 жыл бұрын

For any karaoke machine I think you want a direct analogue input right into the speaker. Sonos doesn’t really offer that except with the 5. If you were to go this route you would want the music playing from a different speaker or you would need to mix voice and music before imputing into the 5. I think a traditional K setup would serve you much better honestly but you could make it work. I would not recommend casting voice to numerous speakers. I suspect that would cause some delays

@johnmorris6308 3 жыл бұрын

Woot!

@iTzDaniel92 3 жыл бұрын

I am considering purchasing the q90r soundbar. however I read that the rear speakers are producing low volume and the subwoofer is causing crackling / popping sound? do you have experience with this and perhaps a solution? I use the soundbar most for watching TV, gaming, films / series and I also listen to quite a lot of music.

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

My best guess around excessive crackling is that there may be interference from your Wi-Fi system (as they operate on similar frequencies) it seems the Q90 surrounds are perhaps most susceptible to mesh router interference. As such I would plan on keeping hubs away from your system. Maybe I’m too forgiving but even if there is light cracklings the sound is pretty incredible. I just generally find Samsung products (through experience, not that pleasant to use lacking in elegance. If you think you’ll have 0 tolerance for crackly subs you may want to go with Sonos as the surrounds establish their own Wi-Fi connection and are more stable and can play as a stereo pair ... but you lose a bit on the tv audio front. But the user experience I find to be much superior to Samsung. A full Sonos system is quite a bit more expensive than the Q90R right now as well. I don’t think I can make tour final decision but perhaps you can consider there trade-offs. Good luck ... let me know if you have additional questions.

@iTzDaniel92 3 жыл бұрын

@@neverenoughtech I was curious if you have a solution for the low volume of the rear speakers. And my other question is i now have the Samsung HW-N650 with the SWA-8500s rear speakers. I am very satisfied with it, but because i recently have the new Q95T TV with eARC, i am considering a dolby atmos set. Is eARC maybe the solution because it's enhanced? Is it worth the upgrade? Also i read that sonos arc and the Q95T do not have full dolby atmos / sound cutting out due to a bug? experience with it? I am also considering the q80r with the rear speakers SWA-9000s. Because with stereo content such as music, the q90r rear speakers causes low volume. Or is that a stupid move? Won't get the full atmos? I'd like to hear from you!

@thatslife9446 3 жыл бұрын

@@iTzDaniel92 you should get samsung's new flagship speakers, Q950T! although the software of them is a little bit buggy right now ( probs get fixed soon) They sound absolutely incredible! the rears are very loud as well. Probably the best ever soundbar from a sound quality perspective. Only annoying thing is the display is at the top so I have to stand up to see significant changes ( or use the app if you wanna remain sitting down)

@tropictom5996 3 жыл бұрын

Great comparo. Thorough and entertaining. Here’s a quick FMK summary: F: Samsung M: Sonos K: TV speakers

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

Ok, was watching spider man with my kid and I finally got the FMK reference. I’m totally with you. Samsung is a hot crazy person not for for a long term relationship but can give you some thrilling moments. Sonos is totally marriage long-haul material. I’ve been cooking up this analogy for some video. In my follow-up q950t review I compared it to a star player that shows up drunk ...

@tomhandy9739 3 жыл бұрын

Guys if any one could help me, I'm struggling with room size! I've read somewhere the if you're in a smaller living the both the sonos and samsung soundbars are not suitable for smaller living rooms. What's class as a smaller living room? As my living is 5 metres by 4 metres would I be OK with either soundbar?

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, this is a valid question that I need to do some more research on. I’m my experience I noted a major difference in sound fullness between my basement recording area. Which is approximately the size you mentioned and my much more spacious living room with up to 14 foot ceilings. I don’t think either environments are all that great for atmos precision. I am not sure what is meant by suitable exactly. I think my advice is that you may be leaving a lot of sound potential on the table with a low volume space, but I think you are doing that with just about any soundbar if the acoustics are not really ideal for home theater audio. The Q90R sounded better than the Sonos in both environments. If you are able I might suggest going with the one you kind of want to get, play with it a bit, and return if you don’t think it’s worth it. It’s a hassle in the immediate but worth it in the long run. I’ll do my best to address ideal room space in my upcoming Q950T review.

@jollyrioger2572 3 жыл бұрын

I live in a small 1br CBD apartment with a small living room. I got the Sonos Arc (soundbar only) and it’s pretty suitable. I find in smaller rooms the bass is sufficient without a sub - a sub might anger your neighbours if you live in an apartment. Also I think you get better Atmos effects on smaller areas. I’ve been enjoying it so far. Also you might want to take a look at Sonos Beam which is perfect for smaller rooms.

@jtwmd83 3 жыл бұрын

So im a title confused with the sonos system. Can i add more than 2 rear speakers for multi room playing?

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

You can add two to be part of the soundbar system. (5.1.2) you can buy other speakers that CAN mimic audio the soundbar system is playing but will be separate (can play some soundbar sounds , can be turned off, can play totally different audio)

@jtwmd83 3 жыл бұрын

@@neverenoughtech thank you for the fast response. Also for an 500 sq foot room, do you think the arc system would ok?

@MrRaghavann 3 жыл бұрын

How much is the difference between lossless and lossy atmos in a full fledged setup like q950T?

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

Pretty noticeable in my opinion ... I suggest reaching for the best

@user-he8rl4sm3k 2 жыл бұрын

Did you not compare the Q soundbar only? Why?

@erosado72 3 жыл бұрын

Sonos Arc review on RTings is outdated....new firmware was released and fixed the bass issue...

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

Well I guess the Sonos still wins

@puppialex8159 3 жыл бұрын

Any advice for someone with ps5 Xbox series x regarding soundbar Q950T bad display position, fabric, stupid setup and most importantly no LPCM. Sonos Arc also no LPCM (maybe coming maybe not via update) sn11rg has everything I want but everybody mentions the pure voice clarity. So currently stuck and don’t know what to do take the lg or Sonos and hope for update or wait for next years models? Just want impressive immerse sound which supports the standards I need.

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

If your TV has eARC I would tend to go Sonos. I don’t believe the TV passes LPCM. It’s generally just a problem with direct connections. For instance rive never had an issue with Apple TV and any of my Sonos bars ... I kind of want to suggest to people that Sonos is marriage material ... in that it is the bar I’m most confident won’t lead to a divorce out of frustration ... even though you will have some great moments with Samsung. If your tv does not support eARC and you are seeking a direct LPCM connection I’d lean LG. I don’t want to speak to what we should expect from updates ... I’ve kind of removed myself from the speculation business.

@puppialex8159 3 жыл бұрын

@@neverenoughtech have eARC 0n my C9 but went with LG SN11RG ;)

@aikjones1 3 жыл бұрын

Subscribed just because of this video, interesting comedy mixed with reviewing, I don't know what any of these sound like, but i've heard the HW70R in a pal of mine's house and it was impressive for a Samsung (who i don't rate). So it seems the 90R will be amazing too! However, i've also heard the Sonos 5 in another pal's house & that was mind blowing for the tiny box in a corner booming music to us! I'm a Bose fan & have been waiting for a release from them to add Atmos & or DTSX, any thoughts on this? If i was to buy a new system today, it'll be the Sonos definitely as i can't be bothered with a Samsung for sound! I've got a Samsung Tv though (MU7000) & a Bose Solo Tv System.

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

I have not really heard the Bose system yet. Though I suspect it functions most like a Sonos system of all the major brands. Yeah, I really like my Sonos Arc, watched Spider Man with my kid this evening and it sounded great - wasn’t thinking the whole time I need a Samsung SB to make this better. So I would certainly agree that you go Sonos based on your description of yourself - of buying today. Regarding an Atmos Bose system. I don’t have any particular insights. I imagine their next major system would need to support Dolby Atmos at least ... as it does seem to be a standard feature amongst higher tier SBs - “if Sonos is jumping on board than I guess we need to”

@Gmedalion 3 жыл бұрын

I have the Q90R sound system with my LG 77inch C9......it's been rock solid with 0 issues. eARC works perfectly and haven't had any issues. With the new HW-Q950T out these Q90R can be found for around $1100 or less and that's a steal! I don't use my sound system for anything other than TV use so for me the Q90R is the system to go with!

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

You delightful commenters are gonna make me spill all my secrets before my 950T review drops 😆. I endorse your conclusion 😄

@yvanokuba1649 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much

@paulk1264 3 жыл бұрын

Hey, thank you for you review. I can't decide between these 2. I mainly stream series/movies. And I'm living in a real small appartment. I'll be paying 1100€ for Samsung HW-Q950T or 1143€ for Sonos ARC plus 2x One SL Rears Rear speaker will be directly standing next to the couch or on the floor if possible. I have several Alexas setup... Which one would you recommend?

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

I want to say you’ll be happier with the Sonos setup in the long run - I’m just not sure how much the Q950T is going to cut out on you. The Sonos surrounds can be used for a long time to come and work as their own speaker if needed at some point. You’ll be giving up some on sound quality but Living in a small apt you’ll probably only be comfortable using a small fraction of the Q950T potential

@paulk1264 3 жыл бұрын

@@neverenoughtech Thank you for your feedback. In every comparison q950t has the better sound and dtsx. But people still go with the Sonos 🤷🏼‍♂️ in my apartment I guess I might not even need the sub. And I can use some cheap ikea simfonsik as rears before Sonos hopefully launches something like a Dolby Atmos rear. From design Sonos looks way nicer.

@augustusx82 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Daniel quick question, I see when comparing these two set ups I’m not sure if you went over the full set up versus fourth set up comparison, I do see that you compare each sound bar individually but with the rear SL’s and sub added to the system if you just had to go with watching movies or playing video games, just as far as the sound immersion would you rather go for the Sonos entire set up or would you stick with the Samsung?....Software integration aside, because I know you’re big on software, but just pure sound for your personal preference full set up versus full set up ...you have one chance to watch a directors cut of a movie which one do you choose?

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

Samsung wins on TV sound. I don’t think it’s really all that close.

@augustusx82 3 жыл бұрын

NeverEnoughTech Interesting, so the Samsung atmos capable rears and sub outperform the Sonos SL’s and Sonos sub?..And I know you’re not my mom, I get it, just curious. Asking for a friend, and I know you’re not his mom either.

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

Sonos surrounds are of a higher quality build and the front speaker I expect sounds better than the 950T rear front speaker. Samsung has the edge with a more beefy bar, many more channels, and upward firing speaker in the rear. It’s just more specialized to perform the3D sound task. It also I think has a fair bit of sophistication on how it handles music the more I listen. When doing 3D sound I get the impression with a soundbar system the kind of surrounds q950t has (while not as stable as Sonos) are sufficient for the task. The bar does most the work. The bass fills out without getting overwhelming and the rears fill in sound without calling too much attention to itself. Samsung system is set up so the surrounds are nothing without the bar. A nice thing about Sonos is that the surrounds are of high enough quality that they can go love their own lives without the bar. But for the task of giving you immersive sound the the Q950T bar is kind of in a different league ... sound production wise. Q drives me crazy and I think Sonos sounds fine and always works and is always on and never does stupid stuff so I stick with Sonos even though I could switch with Samsung

@augustusx82 3 жыл бұрын

NeverEnoughTech OK fair enough, you seem to be one of the only people that has all of these different sound bars, even when I go to Best Buy a lot of times they don’t have them for you to sound test for yourself. I think I mentioned earlier I went with the Sonos because of the quality of product, your videos, and the fact that I don’t have to buy a different sound bar every year like I do with Samsung or LG...I feel like after one year of use they will no longer receive any software updates, which is one of your big selling points... I also took into account that the Sonos arc was sold out absolutely everywhere and I had to go to some third-party store where they had only one in stock and buy it, meanwhile all the other sound bars are readily available and you can pick them up at any time, I figured that was a sign as well, given that people seem to trust and love Sonos so much that it’s on back order.I’m in the Washington DC area, I would do searches and it wouldn’t be available for 250 miles, so I wanted to see what the fuss was about. I watched videos and people were saying that the Rears for Samsung have popping noise or they don’t come on at all, plus your video was saying that the sound bar is great....when it’s working, that “when it’s working” part really turned me off..I love that my Sonos just comes on and stays on and that I can whisper and Google assistant will hear me even if loud music is playing. I will say that your videos are pretty awesome, I’ve scoured KZfaq I haven’t found someone that directly compares different sound bars and gives the pros and the cons Head to head, there are a lot of videos were ultimately the maker will say at the end of the video “this sound bar is right for you if ...” however multiple sound bars could be “right for me if “, I like the fact that you compare sound bars that both could be “right for me if “and I can make a final determination. You went with the Sonos and you have all of these sound bars, so ultimately I don’t regret my purchase, I’ll take your word for it. I feel like Sonos is the iPhone of sound bars, I’m fairly certain that the entire system will still be $2000 Three years from now and I’ll be able to get the Samsung Q 95T for maybe 3 or $400 within two years..I can’t imagine it retaining its value like the Sonos system

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

augustusx82 I think we are sharing a wave length. I think the Sonos will work well for you. As mentioned, I think, it’s what I use ... it works and I never have to think about it. I haven’t dealt with one other soundbar where this is true.

@bradpeterson719 3 жыл бұрын

Hey awesome video. Do you think the Samsung Q90r soundbar with subwoofer is worth $500 in 2021 ? Found a open box in excellent condition only missing the rear speakers. Thanks love the video. Subscribed to your channel.

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

Yup. You’ll get much better than 500 sound

@bradpeterson719 3 жыл бұрын

@@neverenoughtech Awesome thanks for the reply back

@bradpeterson719 3 жыл бұрын

Hey was wondering is the Samsung Q90r with the recent eARC update Hdmi 2.1 ? I know the Sonos Arc was always 2.1 and the Samsung was 2.0 before the update. Thanks

@Playahata11 3 жыл бұрын

Cool Video! Oh man i cant decide between the sonos arc and the Samsung q950t...i hate the smart Things app

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

I definitely plan on reviewing the Q950t. However I can almost predict how that will go. If you want a consistent experience with minimal frustration and are ok with sound that is definitely good but definitely not the best Arc is your speaker. If you want top notch soundbar sound and can bears the occasional frustration ... Samsung has your speaker. Honestly as I am so entrenched with Sonos. The soundbar would have to. E quite bad for me to throw a one-off in my home audio network. It really bugs me when a speaker does not cooperate with my many other speakers.

@nielsflater5053 3 жыл бұрын

@@neverenoughtech good video ! when do you have the q950t soundbar review

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

@@nielsflater5053 I get the unit tomorrow. I have a full time job and a toddler so I am not to the point that I can commit to strict timing on having the video complete (free time is so scarce). I'd guess I'll have the review out in a week and a half.

@nielsflater5053 3 жыл бұрын

@@neverenoughtech Thanks I will wait for the video. So I can choose between Sonos arc or Samsung because I have the q95t TV. Great work

@naitiktrivedi6358 3 жыл бұрын

I actually see reviews on RTINGS.COM they are perfect

@arunsnair76 3 жыл бұрын

Nice review ..Is it fine to go without a sub for basic TV and music purpose ..

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

I’d say so for casual listening. You can play with the EQ to compensate a bit

@raghavgwaliorkar 3 жыл бұрын

Hey man Thanks for the great content. If you can please help with the following query it’ll help me a lot in taking the decision. we are building a new home and I want to setup a home theatre there. local hifi store is suggesting a traditional projector/screen w sound system w receiver. I am looking more into a system consisting Samsung short throw laser projector + Sonos Arc+ sub gen3 + 2 in ceiling speakers (w Sonos amp)+ 2 one SLs to have a truly immersive atmos experience. Now my question is… Is it worth it? Or it’s too much having in ceiling speakers? Or If you have any other suggestions ? Any help will be highly appreciated. Thanks in advance Ravioli

@randykrus9562 3 жыл бұрын

I'm pretty happy happy with the Sonos....but I did have to get the Sub and rears to get there.

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

The sub and surrounds enhance the Sonos system more than a Samsung system. The Samsung soundbar is much more the star of the show than an Arc system. My impression.

@Rob_Ahern 3 жыл бұрын

@@neverenoughtech I've got the Q90R and the sound is extremely full. Totally room encompassing. Maybe you don't know how to set it up right......

@chordkeys 3 жыл бұрын

i can only afford the q80r soundbar now; waiting for black friday deals... lolz... hopefully i can upgrade in a couple years

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

These bars do drop in price. I know the Q90R has taken dramatic swings recently

@aladinoleh8471 3 жыл бұрын

Great review, but it's like comparing 2019 and 2020 products.

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

I get that sentiment. My Q950T vid is on the way. Watching the two videos you get a pretty good idea of how I think the three products stack up from a holistic perspective. Appreciate the feedback!

@Jaypatel512 3 жыл бұрын

And don't forget we get 30% off on Sonos trade-ins. (The bonus point is, you do not have to actually return the traded-in speaker). So, basically, your upgrades are like of 30% off). The only catch is, you can only trade-in each speaker only once (Just like any other conventional trade-ins). But that was a great deal for me who is slowly increasing its collection.

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, discussed this in detail in future videos. I have three play five Gen ones to trade in. - very valuable near defunct product

@MrUpscaleman 3 жыл бұрын

NO, you DON'T want "as compact as possible" The longer the bar, the wider the Soundstage

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

“All else being equal”, you want compact.

@bumkrilla5339 3 жыл бұрын

@@neverenoughtech if you buy these sound bars chances are you have a big TV so size wouldn't matter anyways because they will fit under the TV or on the TV st and if you have a wall mounted TV samsung comes with the wall mount in the box so compaction is completely stupid when it comes to these 2 bars

@kenhchosaigon 3 жыл бұрын

i was review on my channel samsung q90r vs dalton 3200w :)

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

😬 that soundbar is not healthy

@rainergieringer7600 3 жыл бұрын

Hi, I do have a Bose Soundbar 300 with Rear speaker & Sub. want to upgrade to Amtos ;) was looking at the ARC and saw this video. I do have a dedicated HIFI set up so it is purely Netflix and movies. Would you say getting the Samsung is a better choice. Also there is the sennheiser Ambeo ;) ever heard that one? Your comment on Sonos 1 with up-firing speaker made me sort of leaning to Sonos maybe ;). thanks for your feedback

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment. For your purposes I would perhaps lean towards Samsung. Note that Samsung just released the the Q950t a 9.1.4 channel system - will be reviewing soon. So that would be I suppose the most speced out system by Samsung. The Q90R that is a bit old at this point is about 800 cheaper. Samsung definitely sounds more impressive and has rear upward firing now. It is just speculation that Sonos would release upward firing rear speakers - I supposed it was possible since they released the arc with upward firing speakers, releasing rears to meet industry direction may not be out of the realm of possibility. But I would definitely not get the arc expecting these speakers to come. As I mentioned with Samsung the downside is software ... if you have some patience to work through quirks (and want it just for tv sound) then you should be fine. The reward is really fantastic (soundbar) sound. I am not all that familiar with the Ambeo - I like sennheiser and bet it sounds really good but I’m suspicious of the 3D audio effect you get from just the soundbar. - seems to be targeted to ‘luxury’ / ‘minimalist’ crowd that doesn’t want 3 other ,perhaps unsightly, speakers taking up space. It’s somewhat inconvenient but I have suggested just getting the soundbar you are leaning towards and return if does not meet expectations. It seems you should start with a Samsung Q9xx soundbar.

@rainergieringer7600 3 жыл бұрын

@@neverenoughtech thanks a lot for your advice. Indeed will look at the Samsung Q950T. back speakers with up-firing should be great. thanks again

@KING2011KOKO 3 жыл бұрын

Love my arc + sub gen3 everyday. That Samsung looks like a 2005 Sony home theater you could get one from frys for $200

@ryants1 2 жыл бұрын

Do you ever feel like you need another sub?

@FajarFoodVillage 3 жыл бұрын

With lk very nice

@lunaticxr123 3 жыл бұрын

I thought this was Samsung's latest soundbar but this is the 2019 model. Is the 2020 an upgrade? I thought the Sonos was a beast but Rtings says otherwise. Idk what to buy now.

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

Q950T is the 2020 model. Whether it’s an upgrade is not really that straightforward it is better and worse then Q90R. I find Sonos to be consistently accepts all or more than acceptable in all aspects - do a more well rounded product

@kacaus 3 жыл бұрын

What do you think Sonia arc vs JBL 9.1?

@neverenoughtech 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for reaching out. In all honesty I really have been a Sonos customer who recently decided to branch out and learn about other soundbars. I’m not afraid of doing my research though ... I’m not familiar with JBL soundbars so don’t want to give definitive advice. From specs it looks like It can pump out some sound. I would never go with rechargeable surround speakers (that sounds like a nightmare) and I’m not familiar with the software. Having BT and Airplay support is a plus. If you already have Sonos speakers Arc starts to make a lot more sense for the whole home audio setup. And arc makes sense of you are really interested in streaming music. If you want Arc for just TV sound, it’s not really a standout and could possibly not sound as good as JBL. As I often suggest, go with where your heart is leaning with the expectation that you will return if does not meet satisfaction (if returning is an option)