'09 Jeep Grand Cherokee - Tach & Speedometer Cut Out

'09 Jeep Grand Cherokee - Tach & Speedometer Cut Out - The Fix

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6 ай бұрын

In a previous video we had a look at a customers 2009 Jeep Grand Cherokee that had a customer complaint of the tach and speedo dropping out. We quickly discovered that the CAN B data bus was having some issues and we narrowed it down to the front control module and some corrosion. Now it is time to get it fixed.
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@SouthMainAuto 6 ай бұрын

Hope this made sense to everyone that made it this far. Big shout out to Keith over at L1 Auto Diagnostics ( www.youtube.com/@L1Training ) Could not have finished this job on my own that's for sure. Thanks for watching!

@190055joe 6 ай бұрын

Re virginenise please I think you meant re initialise

@ronallen6578 6 ай бұрын

@@190055joeRevirginise (?) sounded much better😂😂

@mikemiller3565 6 ай бұрын

It is amazing the talent, software, and tools that are required to fix cars today. It is no longer just a wrench turner but one can specialize in diagnostics and computers. Tell that to all young people hesitant to get into the skilled trades.

@jeffboyer8214 6 ай бұрын

Change your oil more often, lady that's the issue with the cams ! Hava good day.

@b.t.2795 6 ай бұрын

You're an excellent automotive diagnostic technician.

@robiecarmichael9958 6 ай бұрын

A truly humble intelligent professional man. The man who knows his profession but is willing to say, well I have done all I can do. Let’s call Keith as I believe he has the ability to solve this final issue. A true team effort and because Eric, lead the team to a used module, proved it was the repair needed. Then brainstormed with Keith to give the customer an economically repaired vehicle. Eric your skills, integrity and knowledge of contacts abilities is what sets you apart from the rest. Great job! Hats off to Keith also

@clintprice2123 6 ай бұрын

Eric has INTEGRITY, it’s what sets many people apart. He not in it just for money, he obviously prides himself in being for his customers too!

@COBRO98 6 ай бұрын

@@clintprice2123 He still needs to charge more for labor in my opinion, I think he only charges $80/hour which is 2005 pricing. He does top-tier work. Meanwhile every other shop is now charging $200/hour or more, you should get paid what you're worth in the automotive industry. Most mechanics are broke because they sell themselves short while management gets all the money

@Boga217 6 ай бұрын

@@COBRO98not every shop. There's tons only at 100 to 130

@Boga217 6 ай бұрын

@@COBRO98at his rate if he's got 1 other guy working his shops grossing 7200 a week if he's just doing 5 days a week at 8hrs a person and 90 an hour. If his buildings paid for he's killing it financially just fine and will never question if there will be an endless work supply.

@emort6 6 ай бұрын

@Boga217 Also factor in the money he is making from YT which is probably a lot. It's cool of him to not charge a premium to his customers.

@MrGardman 6 ай бұрын

It always is a plus to have friends in the same business with the same goals to get the customer vehicle repaired.

@Sandbag1300 6 ай бұрын

Unbelievable. What an incredible journey from problem identification to solution. Probably one of the best problem solution videos made on the channel. Outstanding work!

@MyCCW 6 ай бұрын

This man is a national treasure and needs to be protected at all costs.

@chuckgrenci6404 6 ай бұрын

You are certainly NOT an idiot, and going back to the first video, you are, in fact a brilliant man. Thanks for sharing, and even when I can't do what you do; I am entertained and enjoy all that you do.

@NOELTM 6 ай бұрын

Just been watching you 9 years back giving great advice on how to apply silicon spray to door seals to stop you getting frozen out of your vehicle. 9 years on and you are still making helpful and interesting videos. Bravo and thank you!

@mrmoodster5405 6 ай бұрын

He reaches, he fumbles, he misses... but wait... he reaches again, he grabs, he saves!!! The crowd erupts! Yes, Mr O has done it again. A magnificent recovery, and another great win. Well done. Another great, information packed video from a trouble-shooting expert.

@dont-want-no-wrench 6 ай бұрын

he is a bulldog when it comes to this stuff

@prussiaaero1802 6 ай бұрын

I’m trying to work out if this is a car fix report or a date night report! Could go either way!

@mrmoodster5405 6 ай бұрын

@@prussiaaero1802 Paradise by the Dashboard Light (Meatloaf)!

@CommomsenseSmith 6 ай бұрын

This is the beautiful thing about why Eric is a professional, because he keeps good company and has great resources to solve real problems without thousands of dollars in expensive parts that are not needed or in this case not available.

@mikemiller3565 6 ай бұрын

Another junk yard save

@johnboywaltonbeard4699 6 ай бұрын

Eric’O…Great Job!! You sure went the extra mile to make this repair! Most shops would have just said “Parts not available, I can’t help you”.

@marcokahny709 6 ай бұрын

Keith Defazio is like the Tron of control modules he's at a whole different level

@marcokahny709 6 ай бұрын

My bad wrong Keith

@L1Training 6 ай бұрын

It's OK, DeFazio is just as good!

@geraldfields6276 6 ай бұрын

No one else would take the time to do what was required to get this heap back on the road. You are a good man, Eric.

@user-su5bg3ii8n 6 ай бұрын

Eric fellow trouble shooter here. Not cars for living but appliances. You have a gift for trouble shooting but you and everyone else knows that. You have the rare ability to convey your knowledge. I always watch and i encourage anyone who fixes ANYTHING to watch your system, your procedure. The gentleman who i approached at 17ish and asked will you teach me to do this. He looked me in face and said NOPE. The next thing he said changed my life. “I will teach you to trouble shoot. “Had no idea what he meant. I’m about to turn 55 the age of my turned out to be my father in law. What happened that day has allowed me to make a living for almost 40 years. I really appreciate you because I have never come across anyone until i found you that was such a great confident teacher since losing him. I hope everyone sees past the wrench turning and sees the life changing thing you do here.

@chrismccaskell7156 6 ай бұрын

Great job Eric. You saved the owner a lot of money.

@ronallen6578 6 ай бұрын

Up front Eric, I watched both videos of course and understood zip😢😢😢. I'm so far out of knowing jack about electronics, but I hung in and watched you get another satisfied non Chevy up and running 😊😊. I truly enjoy your work and the fact that you actually help your customers is what is important to me. You're a good guy Eric. And that's not something you can say about most these days. Nice job😊😊😊

@edchenal821 6 ай бұрын

Eric, You are way ahead of most techs. Too many only know how to swap out parts. Keep up the good work.

@TIREDOFEVIL 6 ай бұрын

Eric, this one is well above the average backyard mechanic, the tools and access are not what we have. Thank you showing us average fokes that we have lost some ability to correct these POS electronic controlled vehicles. Your skill and knowledge are an asset to us, thank you.

@Sicktrickintuner 6 ай бұрын

Well if I can do it…… you can do, wait. I can’t do it without thousands in software and subscriptions. It’s a pain nowadays to program dodge, jeep ram. Just dumb.

@PMELKUS 6 ай бұрын

It's amazing how far we have come in automotive technology over the years. I started in car repair back in 1968 and back then cars were so easy to fix and you didn't need a half million dollars in tools to get the job done.

@fbrewx2560 6 ай бұрын

Real progress huh! Mostly due to big government meddling.

@steveo2669 6 ай бұрын

Sadly, the technology is creating early junk. Writing off perfectly sound bodied vehicles because an obsolete module corrodes or lets its smoke out. Perhaps one should get into the junkyard business now, and reap the benefits of the need for back flashing modules to differing vin's. Another excellent diagnostic win for SMA and the customer. Thanks Mr. O, never cease to amaze....."Enhance, enhance!" Shout out to L1 too.

@tysshed5807 6 ай бұрын

Cars worth keeping will be converted to standalone ecus. A very expensive option but honestly probably the only viable option in 15-20 years when you can't get a module for your vette or other worthy car.

@PMELKUS 6 ай бұрын

I feel that in a few more years the average person won't be able to afford a car because of the cost of repair and or lack of parts.

@suttoncoldfield9318 3 ай бұрын

@@tysshed5807 Possibly items controlled by the module will be rewired with good 'ol manual switches and relays. Industrial programmable logic controllers using a laptop (check out Crouzet) are a thing too.

@turner0224 6 ай бұрын

Eric’s perseverance is amazing, seldom do we see the frustration that occurs between the “ I’ll be back in a moment “ and the return ha ha . If there’s a way he’ll find it……..having friends and resources are a must

@howardscott7521 6 ай бұрын

Amazing what issues one rotted pin can set off. Brilliant diagnosis and fix, as usual.

@peters9929 6 ай бұрын

Eric never fails to amaze me , such an honest talented guy and Mrs O is luverly too

@major__kong 6 ай бұрын

For some modules or some functions on some modules, you could design your own microcontroller with an Arduino or something like that for those who know how to do that kind of stuff. That's how 2015s will be at car shows well into the future.

@chrisstone3939 6 ай бұрын

Great diag revealing the complexities of modern car electronics! Eric's skill in diagnosing complex circuitry problems is truly awesome.

@alanmorrison3598 6 ай бұрын

How many shops out of every 100 could successfully do a job like this? I'll bet less than 5. Mr. "O" you are exceptional!!

@TheSirGoreaxe 6 ай бұрын

The biggest problem with that Jeep, was the manufacturers greed and despicable practices in making it impossible to repair. Luckily there are good people like Eric and Keith out there making it possible to keep these vehicles out on the road past the manufacturers planed obsolescence date.

@stevebell4906 6 ай бұрын

But as long as you keep buying them why would they?

@Fix_It_Again_Tony 6 ай бұрын

@@stevebell4906 That is why legislation is important that makes it possible for anyone to download the software or buy the manuals to repair their junk. These companies shouldn't be able to prevent you from repairing your vehicle by making the tools you need unavailable. It costs you money and it adds to waste. What might have been repairable in your home garage gets junked because the dealer wants $2K to fix it.

@bornwestusa 6 ай бұрын

Wow. Eric once again showing us he has the skills to pay the bills!

@leecarroll1817 6 ай бұрын

I'm the first to agree that electronics are great but occasionally feel we have just about screw ourselves into a corner. I do long for the old mechanical stuff days. Likely I'm a barnicle past my best use date. Keep up the good diagnosis. You are great.

@kendavis1198 6 ай бұрын

Any one else would have just told the customer it couldn't be fixed, or to keep looking for another Module or perhaps an NOS unit somewhere. Nice work E.O. Customer s/b very happy they brought it to you.

@vincentlallo6543 6 ай бұрын

your patience and work ethic are incredible

@goodcitizen64 6 ай бұрын

Another grest job and saved the customer alot of grief and money!

@davefilicicchia6341 6 ай бұрын

Eric, way to see it through to the end! You found the crusty pin issue, fixed the half that you could, and got the VIN issue taken care of (even if you did need extra help). Way to get 'er done!

@THEMANCAVE2023 6 ай бұрын

Eric I truly appreciate your diagnostics skills and your ability to say hey I need help. If all mechanics worked in this manner the auto repair industry would be a much better field these days

@chkr1610 6 ай бұрын

Great job Sir! Customers there are lucky to have someone that will go the extra mile to make things right.

@hans85 6 ай бұрын

Thank God for guys like Keith, who often save the day and many $$$

@tompetrushka1627 6 ай бұрын

Once again, you prove it can be done! You and Keith both get atta boys for keeping this "Classic" in the road with no issues. At least till next time some electrons act up. Cheers.

@glassvial 6 ай бұрын

Halfway through this video I had a feeling you were going to have to have L1 give you a hand with this one, I'm glad he helped you sort this thing out, and I have a feeling you're right, without guys like Keith you are going to see more vehicles totaled out due to dead electronics. Also, would it help to put some dielectric grease or Fluid Film up in that connector to help prevent this problem from happening again?

@timothycooney986 6 ай бұрын

You should be commended for your knowledge, perseverance. Your customer is incredibly fortunate.

@maxhenry1977 6 ай бұрын

This type of repair may not be in your wheelhouse but you got it. Good job, mr. O!

@donaldmarty8445 6 ай бұрын

Another impressive diagnosis and repair, Eric! Well done!!!!

@arlynsmith9196 6 ай бұрын

Very impressive! When you were yanking that module off the fuse box I knew I would never have that kind of confidence because I would have caused damage that cost big bucks to fix. I do wish that 20 years ago when I got a computer science degree I had been smart enough to foresee what was happening to vehicles and learned the low level languages to make a tool as you described. Too late now but I have a ton of respect for those who did it and a ton of respect for those of you who trust your skills and resources. Nice job!

@rogerv1405 6 ай бұрын

I’m glad I live 1 1/2 hrs from your shop. If I ever need electronics look at on a vehicle--I will be calling for an appointment.

@rayboudreault1452 6 ай бұрын

It would be interesting to know the year and the model of vehicles that have the problem of parts no longer being made. There are people out there who would buy a 2015 not knowing you can’t buy certain parts for it. If mechanics such as yourself and Ivan would start listing them perhaps some young people would not be taken advantage of.

@DeWittPotts 6 ай бұрын

US manufactures are required to maintain support for their vehicles for a minimum of 5 years. That means that today anything earlier than a 2018 model could be at risk.

@stevebell4906 6 ай бұрын

@@DeWittPotts I have been hearing this myth since i was a kid only the number of years has varied from teller to teller..there is no law it is a free country ...as evidenced by all of the junk for sale that has never worked...No one is going to make you go into business or stay in business... Perhaps you have never noticed all of the exit strategies ?....For example all of the companies that simply file bankruptcy...Siphoned off all of the assets paid golden golden parachutes and bonuses ....And convince us?...

@rowlandpichey6602 6 ай бұрын

Great series!! Find the issue, resources and repair!! enjoy watching you solve these!!

@wadecornwell8896 6 ай бұрын

I wonder how many auto repair professionals, world-wide, are able to do what you do? I suspect not many.... Amazing! Bless you and your family!

@farmcentralohio 6 ай бұрын

The suspense was almost to much. I wanted to jump to the end to see what happened but like a good SMA fan I resisted and watched the whole thing. Well done Mr. Eric, had all the twists and turns in this one

@gregsidel3557 6 ай бұрын

Good job eric, So fortunate to have you showing people as much as you can. What is going on with this stuff, Glad you're there thank you very much

@kyletuttle9064 6 ай бұрын

Great job Eric O. Keith is also something else.thanks for sharing.

@mtebaldi1 6 ай бұрын

Awesome job, stay positive Eric. You are a great automotive diagnostic technician mechanic.

@jimbergen5232 6 ай бұрын

Another great job and a big thank you shout out to Keith @L1Training. I gave Keith a 'Subscribe '

@sspnugen 6 ай бұрын

Keith is amazing

@JoseSilveira-newhandleforYT 6 ай бұрын

Good job, Eric! Good job Keith! You probably spent more money to configure the FCM, than it cost you on the salvage yard. You are right, in the future, the antique car shows, will continue to display the same old glories and none of the brave new computers with wheels.

@davechan5159 6 ай бұрын

Been watching your channel for a little while now. I’m a returning technician and was poking around to find channels to help me update and broaden my knowledge base. I really like your approach and methodology in terms of diagnostics - and there are many take aways as per standard. You’ve been a huge blessing not only to myself and I’m confident in saying to many others. Thanks for helping out a guy who came from the early days of OBII catch up - it’s been a rocket ship ride so far and I’m totally stoked to see, experience and continue to grow. Thank you so much for all you do Eric, if and when you leave the bench, please find your way to the nearest technical college and continue to educate and encourage the future generations of mechanics!! P.s I totally get the getting older and needing the reading glasses thing, every time you go and grab yours, it brings the question to mind, where the heck did I leave mine 😂 Cheers!!

@LMacNeill 6 ай бұрын

I had a sneaking suspicion that Keith was gonna have to get involved. 🙂 He does awesome work!!

@amycyclenut 6 ай бұрын

Thank the lord for Keith (and all Keith's of the world)!

@scottyparker2534 6 ай бұрын

One thing I really like about you Eric you don't back down or give up, And you explain it for even a dumb hill Billy like May can Understand it. Thanks for the video Thanks for the video Hope. You? And Ms O are doing well.

@michaeld9731 6 ай бұрын

Super interesting how you accomplished the fix on this car. Expanding your team by using Keith's expertise to enable the 'new' module to be re-configured was excellent and crucial to fixing the problem. I suspect a lot of other shops would have said, "...this module is no longer available--sorry, can't fix this."

@Micko350 6 ай бұрын

Now I just have to get my big old head around a whole new "Keith" being around! 😂

@ovalteen4404 6 ай бұрын

Gotta love that in order to reprogram modules, you need to go through secret handshakes and expensive subscriptions.... or find the 3rd party software that is likely available to chop shops. All the hoops that people have to jump through for legal substitution has zero payout in stopping theft.

@drews0matt 6 ай бұрын

Love the concept and most of all the components. Fit anywhere axles, open belt drive motors, and the open source VESC have unlimited possibilities.

@zeke1eod 3 ай бұрын

Awesome job. Remember, JEEP stands for " Just Empty Every Pocket." hahaha that is a great service Keith provides. Stay safe, and God bless

@wk7060 6 ай бұрын

Great job Eric and Keith, definitely and awesome duo!

@mikerobbins5049 6 ай бұрын

Well imagine that...... a car manufacturer that makes parts obsolete after a few years..... I can’t believe they would do that... You would think that they would want you to be able to repair your vehicle and drive it for 500,000 miles at least......LOL.... It’s a good thing that you know a guy..... Great JOB Eric...

@onemechca 6 ай бұрын

It's great to have friends in the community that help each other. Well done Eric and Keith. Keep it up my friends.

@RustyToothPick7300 6 ай бұрын

Alpha OBD is a great tool for Chrysler Dodge products. I've unlocked options that were unavailable to my truck such as auto down windows and recognizing LED lights. I no longer have errors!

@prep1989 6 ай бұрын

Wow! three uses of a word I've never heard before, "revirginize". Always something to be learned here

@jrehtil1494 6 ай бұрын

It is great to have good friends to seek out for help

@grahamstuart3207 6 ай бұрын

great to have friends like Keith Eric

@goranekstrom708 6 ай бұрын

If the "only" issue was crusty connectors, another solution could have been to replace the connector on the original module with the one from the replacement module.

@goranekstrom708 6 ай бұрын

@@jimbeaux1109 Connectors are usually molded, therefore sealed, so it would have to have been cracked for 'crust' to come from the inside. I guess since I work with electronics I see that way being easier.

@smijas 6 ай бұрын

Love and help from others makes it all work and worthwhile! I love your detailed diagnostics videos Eric, keep em coming.

@zackarymcclain164 6 ай бұрын

I talked to Keith about this past weekend. Wild it got posted after I talked to him!

@ChrisWilliams-pu8pj 6 ай бұрын

Great job! You and Ivan have the persistence to get-er-done!

@robertalexander9931 6 ай бұрын

It's not what you know it's who you know, and it's good to friends with them.

@bobdankiewicz9939 6 ай бұрын

I agree with you, these computer failures will be the thing that junks these vehicles. There may be a business opportunity for 3rd party aftermarket retrofit kits, if state inspections will allow them. Thanks for the great videos, I learn a ton from them!

@cullenmiller8170 6 ай бұрын

Nice video and diagnosis. Keith was definitely my first thought about fixing that module. Guys like him will be the future in keeping cars going that reached their obsolete date by the OEM.

@jdesaavedra0432 6 ай бұрын

Knowledge, experience, smarts, tools--all countand in the end, persistence is sometimes the key to success. Where would we be without Jeeps!

@MeFreeBee 6 ай бұрын

I guess knowing who to go to to get it fixed is part of being the guy who can fix it.

@billylyle1 6 ай бұрын

Your are the Jeep Whisperer....Your tech skills are NASA grade....Love the Video

@davidjones8680 6 ай бұрын

A great analytic mind you have. Its a delight to watch you work things out.

@HeyBirt 6 ай бұрын

You are 100% correct. Even folks not in the rust belt will be SOL when (not if) the manufacturer stops supporting the overcomplicated electronics crap. I'm an EE and have done electronics and electromechanical repairs my whole life so I'm not against electronics, give me electronic ignition over points all day long. Node locked modules that require special tools to reprogram are bad enough, making them so they can't be reprogrammed is criminal. For most folks a car is the second largest purchase they will ever make with their house being number one. Imagine if houses worked like cars. Your fridge dies but is node locked to your house. The only fridge that will work with your house is no longer supported and so you find a used one, but you can't program it to work with your house without knowing the guy with the special software to reset (hack) your fridge and then you have to pay $150 to access the house builder's website to program the used, reset, fridge just to get it to work. Nobody would put up with this with their house, but we bend over and take it when it comes to cars. Why?

@mikemiller3565 6 ай бұрын

Coming to a house soon.

@HeyBirt 6 ай бұрын

@@jimbeaux1109 A modern smart battery charging circuit can sense the battery health and adjust. There is no need to rest 'battery learning'. The only reason to have such a system is to 'perhaps' keep track of the age of the battery to suggest replacement based on time.

@jeffhendryx239 6 ай бұрын

You are Absolutely Amazing!! I Love your tenacity and determination to see a problem through!! Nothing but RESPECT for you Eric! Great job 👏🏻

@user-ft2fr9vg6u 6 ай бұрын

As the retired old oldtimer who "fixes" cars virtually nowadays, thinking about dipping my toes into the electronic "repair/diag" end of the business. Way to go Eric, nice job, successfully tilting at the evil gremlins that circle the 21st century things formerly known as "personal" transportation (fixable by the owners or shops). regards, daniel...

@robertlacob8831 6 ай бұрын

South Main Automotive proves where there is a will, there is a way. Always looking for the unexpected fix because someone has already been there.

@dosman01302 6 ай бұрын

Nice fix, it's nice that there are people who can get into rhe modules and clear data so they can be used again. I should have gotten into that. Have a great day Eric!

@DIYDaveOK 6 ай бұрын

Just more reasons to stay away from Stellantis garbage, as if we needed more...thanks as always, Eric!

@dans_Learning_Curve 6 ай бұрын

You're not an ordinary idiot! 😂 Seriously, recording, editing and uploading on a regular basis is a full time job in it's self! I feel I learned something today!

@janetcoursey6756 6 ай бұрын

You are without a doubt AMAZING! You are like a bulldog, you just keep going until you find a way to fix it! Love your channel, I check every day in anticipation of a new video!

@gregsly1247 6 ай бұрын

Great video as always Mr O. Oh how I miss the good old days of repairing vehicles with a set of basic hand tools. Technology is wonderful on one hand but a pain in the arse on the other.

@Byzmax 6 ай бұрын

Outstanding work as usual!

@guyburleson8918 6 ай бұрын

I wish we had a guy like you in our town!!! You are damn good!!!!!!!!!!!

@GateKeeper97 6 ай бұрын

Genius as always. Would to see more of the other jeep torn down.

@PCDoctorUSA 6 ай бұрын

Somewhere in NY, a new car dealer is cursing your name for another great save for the customer. Well done!

@themalewhale59 6 ай бұрын

Nice fix against all the hurdles the Chrysler highwaymen put up. Little victories Mr O. Little victories.

@toddcathyfranklin4189 6 ай бұрын

Once again amazed at the way you figure to check stuff out great job

@Mike44460 6 ай бұрын

Eric says, "I don't know everything." OK, but if you know where the answers are, well, you pretty much do. OUTSTANDING!

@jamesbruno5896 6 ай бұрын

Nice job Eric, well done!

@jerseyjim8365 6 ай бұрын

I am in awe of your knowledge and patience.

@michaelskinner896 6 ай бұрын

Great job Eric! I had a laugh when you mentioned that "we're" not going to be having any classic car shows with 2015's and newer showing up....That's so true. The more a vehicle becomes software defined, the easier it is to become obsolete.

@carlbukowsky1931 6 ай бұрын

Yeah, the manufacturers wield that "Obsolescence Sword" with cunning and skill...it's all about money.