I already knew most of this, but I still learned something very useful: how to tell which way is 'forward' on a gyroscope.

Still the best tutorials on YT for space engineers =)!

I read some time ago that you need to align the Gyroscopes with the axis to get the best effect of them... You have shown here that this is clearly not the case and there is no disputing it as you directly show it with examples and we see that there is no difference. So, thank you for putting out these Tutorials, they're really helpful and do away with some false information :)

Love the little Capacs and Splitsies that you use to point things out. its a great detail

This may not be an interest of you, Splitsie, but I would love to see the basics of writing scripts. For example, I would love to be able to write simple scripts to control items across ships and bases that bare blocks cannot control; e.g., I want to use an oxygen tank as a depository for evacuating a hangar space and always refill from that isolated tank first and "top off" the pressurized hangar if necessary. I have lots of other "If...Then..." scenarios that scripting may answer but use of blocks cannot.

Gyroscopes, your best friend and worst enemy, they can help you or destroy your ship. either why, thank you Splitsie for the information about the "where to place them", i did not knew that placing them near the center(or not) had that much effect on the grid and i see you are also a fan of "always end with a bang"😁

Every time, if one of my friends starts with Space Engineers, I send them your tutorial videos! Best tutorials ever!

Gyro: I worked out which side of the small gyro is "front" by taking a look at the large Gyro. As its control panel is located at the front but the small gyro doesn't have this feature, I looked for other hints: The sides of the Gyros have very similar but asymmetrical "bearing-plates" which hold the bearings for a shaft. The rounded parts of the "bearing-plates" point to the front!

I'm currently trying to discover a way to control "chaotic" gyro movement. Meaning a way to fly a craft using override gyros only. Once I make more progress I'll post a video on my channel. Great tutorial btw. 👌 placement is important.

6:55 * interstellar dramatic theme starts playing *

eyy, got a mention lol that editing with spinny engies is a very nice touch. great tutorial overall!

Thank you so much for such a great tutorial. Loved the helpful graphics showing direction of movement.

That overide info makes so much sense

I just want to add... from wikipedia: In physics and mechanics, torque is the rotational equivalent of linear force. It is also referred to as the moment, moment of force, rotational force or turning effect, depending on the field of study. It represents the capability of a force to produce change in the rotational motion of the body. The concept originated with the studies by Archimedes of the usage of levers, which is reflected in his famous quote: "Give me a lever and a place to stand and I will move the Earth". damn... I love to sound smart. (aka smarting out) :D

Finally the tutorial series is back, as you've said.

Nice demonstration and confirmation of Space Engineers 'Phiziks'. I've always built my ships with the Gyros centerline ( or as much as possible ) and to the center of the ship, just makes sense knowing how Gyros work in the real world.

How well timed I was just starting on a heavy retrofit of an npc ship I borrowed permanently, now I know to move all atleast some of the heavy stuff to the center thanks splitsie

Now this is useful information, thanks Splitsie 👍🏻 Amazing how Splitsie is the master of tutorials in Space Engineers but Capac still manages to frustrate him through his shenanigans 🤣

Thanks Splitsie. Your guide's are the best. It's also nice to know the reason why you build the way you do. Other than Capac-isms.

Nice, I love the R&D stuff

Thank you for another wonderful tutorial! 👍

That last bit of info was so helpful! I have a large carrier that takes forever to turn and ended up putting lots of gyros... Now I just have to centralize those gyros on the center of mass and I can also reduce weight with less gyros. :)

Great tutorial, Splitsie, thank you. A thought for another tutorial - timers and sensors, as they are quite powerful when used together, so I think it may be easier for people to think of them as a strong pairing if they were taught that way in the first place.

Thanks, great tuto as always :)

This may have just changed the way I build ships and rovers, Thank you and please keep up the great work.

Excellent tutorial, love the explicit detail you get into.

Great video on this topic Splits! Thanks for this. Interesting for ship design purposes.

I'm sure many of you already knew but Gyroscopes are very heavy so have high integrity too, at least for small grids, this means you can use them to protect your more valuable ship components (Hydrogen tanks, Ammunition cargo, cockpit etc)

I'm new to the game, and this was very informative. Thanks for the clear explanation and demonstrations!

Thanks as always Mr Splitsie (curses under his breath as he logs back into space engineers to move the gyros, not by much, on his latest build) for the super informative tips

Good to know I've been placing my gyros backwards this entire time 😅. Splitsies tutorials are top notch, been playing for years now and it's all thanks to you mate.

Great info sir 👍

500+ hours on SE yet still learning from your tutorials lol. For all your Space Engineers knowledge and entertainment plus more, follow this guy.

That was actually very useful info. I never consider these things in space engineers. I knew about these concepts in real life but did not know that SE simulated them this well.

Awesome. I find stuff like this so helpful. I typically try to just orientate them in the same direction and never gave much more thought to it. By this logic, I can drastically reduce the number of gyros on my large grid ships.

Nice Very straight to the point with examples

Always helpful. Even knowing how gyros work I picked up a few details I hadn’t come across as of yet. Thanks Splitsie!!!

these little videos taught me almost everything i know now about the game, taught me the key combines for 10x, 100x, 1000x, painting etc. etc. and 2,000 hours have been spent using the things these taught, so thanks splitsie, these mean a lot. I did want to recommend aswell making a Tutorial on modding? I really want to learn how to do it but have no idea where to turn

Thumbnails like this one make vids quick to be found. Thanks for all the work you put into these.

Wow I have never thought about this!

Oh man, I have been putting on gyroscopes backwards this whole time. No wonder my vehicles didn't turn the way I expected

Nice, very informative.

Cool vid! Also stan the spinny-disco-warhead-extenders

Well done great job

Thank you!that was really helpful😊😊

Fantastic, thank you for this!

Great video, thanks for setteling the debates.

Those helpful little engineers are a great detail.

Space Engineers master class series. Subgrid mechanics next?

Omg i love this channel

Tys! Now I also know how to make a spinning station!

Awesome info, didn't think of weight nor mass for gyro usage

I would personally love a video on the potential problems encountered when mucking around with sub grids if you felt so inclined :)

Great info

Very handy to know, cheers Splitsie Now I know why my main ship was an absolute slug the last time I built her

Brother told me hes downloading the game today, I sent him the link for your channel and was delighted to see a new video

Sounds like for most people who are now aware of this. Have a separate group of carefully placed Gyros in the same orientation etc, and turn off all other Gyros can be useful for this control purpose. I hear that placing a gyro on the end of a set of otherwise wobbly Pistons etc can stabilize them.

Also, deep in the game code is a limit on the maximum rotational speed of a grid. The furthest point from your center of mass is the limiting factor. In the game world, grids with smaller absolute dimensions can rotate faster, no matter how many gyros are placed. The further a block is from center the faster it is moving (assuming the same rpm). It has to cover a greater distance in its travels verses a block near the center of mass. So the game caps the rpms to ensure those blocks don't end up glitching out due to high speeds. More gyros will help you get up to your maximum rpm faster or make it less tedious to turn using the mouse. But slamming your ship full of really heavy gyros quickly has diminishing returns.

5:15 gyroscopes don't impart a force, they impart a torque.. but for the rest, great video!

Thank you splitsie. I was under the impression that the side with the single spot was forward 😆 Silly me!

This was definitely very helpful thanks man! Was wondering why some of my ships despite being light armor were slow to turn. I probably had incorrect gyro placement

"see this one little marker thats your back" this sentence sounds funny when said out loud

So my rover roll gyros I have to switch onto override are going on the bottom of my chassis 🤔 2500hrs plus and I’m still learning something new about space engineers. Cheers splitsie! 👍🏼

more like Reaction Wheels in RL, but with all the servo systems and used as a complete sub-system

I always like to place them close to the center of mass pointing outwards on the outside. They also do a great job soaking up damage.

Thanks for this and the explanation of orientation. Now if I could just work out how to place projectors and take blueprints properly...

I always build my warships compartmentalized and center the gyros. Also cluster the thrusters. Have taken railgun shots and hits from mod weapons that will blow a chunk off but not kill it.

the tutorials are back

I need that yawing demonstration for a gif…

Yay, start of a new tutorial series?

Try doing two identical test rigs with both inner and outer gyroscopes. On one have the inner unwelded so they provide the weight but no rotational assistance. On the other do that to the outer. The one with working inner gyros will spin up faster. Unless they've changed how they work since I tried it.

Did not actually know about the gyro's orientation I have been using overrides wrong for years it seems. But there's one very important piece about gyro placement missing to consider and it matters a lot. They're very heavy, very tough, and only secured by a single face. Placing them on a block easily destroyed will mean risking the gyro's mass and toughness turned against you if it comes loose. A dead gyro that stopped a railgun shot and saved the precious component behind it is better than a wrecking ball bouncing around inside your ship.

9:03 This part reminds me of a ballerina spinning pulling her arms in and moving her arms out.

I was always curious about the gyro's front face, even though it hasn't mattered for me so far. I personally think auto-rollers on rovers is kinda silly - I'd rather have gyros for full manual control whenever I need it rather than a derpy, might-work-might-not gyro like the ones in the Scrap Race scenario. On Playstation (and I'm sure there's a similar control toggle for PC) my right stick normally controls pitch and yaw, or when I hold L1, it swaps out yaw for roll, and keeps pitch the way it was. So basically, I find no use in a dummy gyro that might klunk and damage parts of my rover when flipping back over, or potentially fail to flip me over in an awkward place due to fix rotation, when I can just have a gyro that lets me prevent damage and flipping in the first place, or let me do precisely what I need to in order to get unstuck in every possible case. Manual gyros are also superb for allowing rovers to conquer awkward terrain. Also, if you have a rover with any vertical thrusters, be they for preventing fall damage, gliding over gaps, or ascension of vertical terrain, a manual gyro is also crazy useful, and far cheaper and less energy hungry than outfitting a rover with an omni-directional thruster setup. All that said, I do see a very niche point in auto-rollers, and that is specifically for cases like the Scrap Race scenario. It seems like that mode was meant to behave a little bit more like an arcade racing game, so of course you need to cut out the full gyro control and give the player an "oops I flipped" button. But for normal gameplay, just use your rover's gyros the same way you do on ships. Manual input, redirect your movement energy where you need it. And that way, your flip fixes and flip prevention will be faster and easier to access than frantically going through your toolbars while under the threatening pressure of losing your ride in the blink of an eye. You don't even need to worry about what way they're facing, because just like with your ships, gyros on your rover will respond to input according to what your cockpit says positive and negative yaw pitch and roll are.

Yeah perfect timing for him to upload this

it would be neat to have an override to make the gyroscope operate in reference to the orientation of the main cockpit

great video, suprised you didn't this opertunity (?) to illustrate the importance of centre of mass e.g two identical looking ship but differante centres of mass

did not know about the distribution of mass thing, or where to find the centre of gravity indicator ^^, learn something new every day :)

Hmm interesting. Is the over ride direction thing perhaps the reason why you’ve had so many epic flips over the years? Haha either way great tutorial as usual 😊

I remember hearing the last one from Donut Media and I tested it in Roblox. It worked as flawlessly as your test and it's a very cool think to know. I'm making a game where you rotate a labyrinth board and navigate a ball through it so reliable rotation is important so I keep the set massless, then add a bunch mass at the middle and make sure that the center of mass is as close to the bearing as possible plus the overall mass is 99% set and 1% ball because otherwise the ball will be influencing the rotation a lot.

This was very informative, thank you, and that was a really nice boom at the end! Odd question - Do you think you could make a clock that keeps semi-accurate time using gyros? Looking forwards to more tutorials and maybe some experiments on Capac?

Welcome to Physics class with Splitsie! I hope you enjoy!

Ive always done my ships with most batteries and gyros near the outside with large components on the inside. might not be possibles with some designs, but keeping this in mind with future builds, i might need less gyros, then less components to power and less thrust needed. My favourite ship design kinda brute forces its movement

Whilst the tutorial is really handy, the final test subjects were really aesthetically pleasing! Great stuff!

all of these things i knew.... well constructed information for the newbie though

Thanks

Just a small tidbit I'd like to point out, because I was struggling with a grid being extra sluggish recently and I thought my gyro placement was to blame: If you're using subgrids, and you use "share inertial tensor" on any of your rotors, pistons, or hinges, that may negatively impact your turn rate. I suspect that the distance of this sub-grid connector from the center of gravity may also have an effect, but I haven't tested that yet.

makes sense, you need mods to change where the thrust is applied from so i guess the same goes for the gyroscopes. using the orbital mods and the thrust position changing mods (there is like 3 on the workshop) you realize how the forces were always exacting from the center all this time! in the vanilla game you can have a 1 KM long stick with 5 engines and 1 engine on the other side and it will fly strait like no engines are misplaced!

If you enable the orientation cube GUI when placing blocks you can see a red, green and blue face, they correspond with right, up and back When I was writing programs I learned this relation (X, Y, Z) = (Red, Green, Blue) = (Right, Up, Back) = (Pitch, Yaw, Roll)

We should have a vid about capac

Gyros are basically as durable as heavy armor blocks so i like to use them to protect backup systems like batteries and cargo containers.

Observation: the part detailing the importance of gyro placement on the grid should of had two ships that were identical in design but for the placement of the gyros to better illustrate how impactful the weight of gyros were. Putting all the weight in the center like in the example doesn't really prove how much the gyros' weight mattered.

Thanks. I'm one of those peeps, for who this doesn't matter, but it was interesting to see why :D

Great tutorial as usual, a couple of questions about gyros that wasn't covered: Does it matter if the gyro is on a subgrid? does it apply its force to the centre of mass of the subgrid or the main grid? related to this, does the gyro(s) on for example a small grid miner affect the handling of a mothership the miner is connected to via a connector or landing gear?

thank you so much although now i gotta take out 15 of these as of this vid haha

I remember way back in early access when I did something funky enough with the gyros that a big ol mining ship just started spinning. I don't remember if I turned on override (I might have, it was a while ago), but I decided to delete the ship instead of trying to figure it out.

Can you make a tutorial that doesn’t show scripting itself, but USING scripts? I’d particularly enjoy seeing how the climbing “arms” were set up in the tractor from “Wrong Way Down”!

Hmm...in my experience, the closer the gyros are to the center of mass, the more responsive input is. I'm not talking about how much force is applied, but how quickly the ship _stops rotating_ after you stop input (e.g. mouse, Q/E). Closer == less (artificial) 'input lag.' IMO this only matters for fighters, where one really wants precision, not just rotational force.

So spinning the ship using thrusters on override is preferred when your ship mass is spread out. Putting all heavy stuff in the center is asking for it to be destroyed, like full cargo and jump drive.

Thanks mate, another learning moment from Splitsie, always a good thing IMO. Question time - When drilling with a small mining ship in atmo they tend to yew when you move or turn, normally you need to Q & E it to put back on even keel, could you use a gyroscope on over-ride to do this automatically? If yes then how please? If no then bugger! Advice is appreciated always , if you are too busy with the youngun' then no probs. Cheers.