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@PluginAlley7 ай бұрын
It's a Pink Squier mini, it is better. Swap pick ups and throw on an evertune bridge and you're in business hahaha. Fun video Mikko!
@mlsoundlab7 ай бұрын
I think because of the scale length it will always be fatter but maybe with some super bright pickups or 500kohm pots?
@peterstephen15624 ай бұрын
Such valid methodolgy. Drive them into flat top distortion and try to tell the difference.
@mlsoundlab3 ай бұрын
This is ML800 with settings at noon. Djent kids call this a clean amp. 😂
@babahias7 ай бұрын
Not surprised. Also, people should have understood by now that there are no huge TONAL differences between electric guitars of different price ranges. You can even that out by replacing pickups (depending on what you play this makes more or less difference). The differences lie somewhere else (playability, stuning stability, and so on... of course the overall build quality). Beyond a certain price point there are no big differences there either. 🙃 After all it just depends on the body being made of swamp ash. ... 😜
@mlsoundlab7 ай бұрын
Actually the main reason why these sound so different must be the wood.
@babahias7 ай бұрын
@@mlsoundlab Absolutely! I mean it's called TONEwood for a reason. ☝
@mlsoundlab7 ай бұрын
@@babahias I sincerely hope that we're both being sarcastic. 😂
@babahias7 ай бұрын
@@mlsoundlab 😈
@LimitlessPotential127 ай бұрын
Great video, even though I know that the biggest problem with cheap guitars is playability, tuning etc etc. not the sound that much. Even though I have realized that when it comes to high gain, cheap single coils have a unique sound that you can immediately tell its a single coil strat.
@mlsoundlab7 ай бұрын
Oh definitely - you can tell that with expensive guitars too. Silver Sky vs that Gibson is a very clear comparison. I mean the Squier sounds closer to the Gibson than the Silver Sky. 🤣
@LimitlessPotential127 ай бұрын
@@mlsoundlab let's just say I am happy with my PRS Holcomb 🤣
@mlsoundlab7 ай бұрын
@@LimitlessPotential12 I actually got to play all of Mark's main guitars when they were tracking Periphery 3 in Washington DC. At the time the 7-string US PRS one was a new thing and I got to try that one too. I then openly in front of Misha, Nolly and Jake told that Mark has the best signature guitar and there's no debate. 😂 Obviously Nolly said he's got a Modern Eagle so he wins.
@LimitlessPotential127 ай бұрын
@@mlsoundlab Room filled with legends...wow...Nolly always wins 🐐
@fabiomoreira17517 ай бұрын
Nice video Mikko! Dude, I bought a Squier HH Squier Affinitty Strat (new models) in order to replace almost everything. Then I record some takes (all distoted - no clean) wih ML Roots, Oracle, Neural Nolly ... and it sounded great and better than some of my Fenders Hss!! Really good pick ups!
@mlsoundlab7 ай бұрын
Oh yeah there's amazing value to be had!!
@lllazarrr7 ай бұрын
Awesome comparison. I made plenty mistakes. I learned this the hard way, thinking that the expensive guitars will make me play better. I play Harley Benton 200€ guitar now :))
@mlsoundlab7 ай бұрын
I'd much rather play a 200€ guitar that stays in tune than a 20000€ guitar that goes out of tune all the time. That's just the reality of things.
7 ай бұрын
the chords get a bit wonky on the mini Strat though in general, very often, a simple bolt on guitar sounds best The R9 or the Silver Sky surely feel like playing a Ferrari.
@mlsoundlab7 ай бұрын
It's so easy to add too much pressure on the Squier and have it go out of tune. Not sure if thicker strings would help.... I'm still not sure if I like by basic strats more than the Silver Sky - it's SO BRIGHT!
7 ай бұрын
@@mlsoundlaba bright Strat makes us metal players realise what the tone knob is for ;)
@CrushingAxes7 ай бұрын
Man I'm a Les Paul guy, but the pink guitar actually sounds very cool!!!
@Wizzerman957 ай бұрын
And now PRS are changing their tuners for better “tone transfer” 🙃
@mlsoundlab7 ай бұрын
Really? I bet those tuners would make the Silver Sky sound as good as the Mini Squier! 😅
@myyt43827 ай бұрын
Another interesting concept would be to add prs pups to that squier and compare 😉
@mlsoundlab7 ай бұрын
Pickup tests coming soon, don't worry! 🙏 -Kai
@mlsoundlab7 ай бұрын
Mikko here! Contrary to what most people say.. even John Mayer.. I find the Silver Sky to be much harsher in the high end when compared to any of my Fender Strats and I have seven of them so I have a good reference point. I'm not sure the pickups are necessarily the problem. It might be more to do with the pot values or something. Does the Silver Sky have 250kohm pots or what? Maybe it's vintage correct that it's super bright in comparison but honestly I have a Suhr loaded pickguard on my #1 strat that made me fall in love with strats to begin with and there's no question I prefer that sound to the Silver Sky. 😊
@BecomingProductions7 ай бұрын
That Squire sounds awesome. It certainly sounds different to the others but I'd struggle to objectively say one was "better" than the other. Goes to show your production knowledge (and your awesome plugin) are the most valuable assets in this experiment.
@mlsoundlab7 ай бұрын
I suppose I'll have to make a mix breakdown of this soon because it's really just the default preset of ML800. 😆 You can definitely hear the difference especially once you've learned how all these guitars sound. The thing is - without that comparison I don't think any of the guitars sounded bad apart from the Squier not staying in tune.
@kimseniorb7 ай бұрын
tune the guitar down a 2-3 semitones then take a capo to the fret which corresponds with E that would approximate the scale shift of the shortscale instrument and pickups will have even closer overtones to the small guitar
@mlsoundlab7 ай бұрын
@@kimseniorbString tension matters so much! Really need to talk about this too. 😊
@MassanBeats7 ай бұрын
@@mlsoundlab not tension exactly, more like scale length relative to string thickness and pickup placement-positioning relative to the scale
@aldrinsereno7 ай бұрын
What drum plugin did you use for this? Sounds sick man!
@mlsoundlab7 ай бұрын
Unreleased new ML Drums expansion. 😅
@Skizane7 ай бұрын
Well, damn. That is one kickass pink mini-strat. I think your daughter wins this round.
@mlsoundlab7 ай бұрын
Nooooooooooooo!! 😢
@ShreddingFinn7 ай бұрын
A really expensive guitar is like buying an expensive after market steering wheel for your Lambo, while its nice and it feels good, it isn't necessary to get the job done if you know how to "drive"
@mlsoundlab7 ай бұрын
Good comparison! 😅
@CJ_Wolesz7 ай бұрын
So did your daughter say "I told you so"...😂
@mlsoundlab7 ай бұрын
It's frustrating that all the women in my life are always right! 😂
@ac87047 ай бұрын
Nice! So play what feels good and inspires your :)
@mlsoundlab7 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@ericolson3267 ай бұрын
Yeah, I was going to ask which needed to be tuned more often: the Squier or the Gibson. 😄
@mlsoundlab7 ай бұрын
I actually set the Squier up quite well but tiny things like pressing on the strings too much will go out of tune fast.
@SonicDriveStudio7 ай бұрын
Haha!! Awesome!
@mlsoundlab7 ай бұрын
You too buddy!
@Aldorelaxingguitar7 ай бұрын
😆Cool comparison video! So true on the meaning of this video, it does take a few years to finally figure out there are slight differences in guitars and drastic differences based mechanics, but in the end, your tone has so much to do with your physical hands as demonstrated in this video. I have to say that I bought the ML800 and GNR amp sims even though I own two other popular amp sim programs that cover those amps because I found ML versions sounded very true to my 50-watt JCM 800 with 1960 cab. Wishing you all the best in 2024! Ciao, Aldo
@mlsoundlab7 ай бұрын
Thanks for stopping by Aldo! Glad you're digging the ML800 and GNR plugins 💪 There's definitely a level of diminishing returns with this stuff - tone is one thing, but playability, general experience, and tuning stability are pretty important too, outside of watching a demo like this of course -Kai
@dfgvjnkjdsnbkjsbdvjkhdsb3 ай бұрын
try harley benton))
@aplanebagel7 ай бұрын
Your daughter is right, her squier has a rounder sound, the pink prs had a pinging sound which doesn't sit well in my ear. 😅 Also, the squier is "oâ" sounding to me while the R9 was more "oye" sounding , if that makes sense. She's got good taste, in my opinion! :)
@TudorAdrian7 ай бұрын
Squiers are at a point where if you change the electronics on them, they're kick ass guitars. Maybe the flagship products have better feeling frets etc but the Squiers that I have are all amazing guitars.
@mlsoundlab7 ай бұрын
Electronics are likely the last thing to swap really - a fret dress and setup will do far more to the overall experience of the guitar, and typically cost a similar price as a "good" set of pickups. -Kai
@mlsoundlab7 ай бұрын
Mikko here! Everything matters but surprisingly some of the things that really matter are things we're not talking about. Bridge and saddles are a big part but in the case of the Squier there's nothing you can do to that scale length. Because it's so small there will never be a lot of string tension on it unless I tune it up to like... G standard. And for that reason it's darker.
@IcedForce7 ай бұрын
I don't think it's that frightening, frightening is that pretty much all it takes is just little time to make those cheap guitars into great ones. Treat the fret ends, polish the frets, check the wiring, setup it correctly and the only thing that really often sucks in it anymore are the tuners which often get better when you just tighten the screws at the knobs. Long are gone the days when the Bullet Strat had neck like a corkscrew, the electronics were just complete trash and getting it into tune was next to impossible.
@mlsoundlab7 ай бұрын
WELL SAID! I treated my daughter's Squier like my own guitars and made it play really well - right now she can't put it down 😂
@blueswede746 ай бұрын
Your daughter definitely have a point here :-)
@curtisnewton8955 ай бұрын
tried the squier ministrat couple of years ago, it is just horrible, the neck is a pure piece of shit
@mlsoundlab5 ай бұрын
Yeah, there's definitely a level where playability, reliability, and stability become a factor - the video is here to show that any guitar can sound good. You'll struggle to find a 70EUR guitar that's also a great player -Kai