Stanley No. 78 Duplex Rabbet Plane Explained and Road Tested.

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//Correction//
At 2:55 I make mention of the spur being used to cut a rabbet on end grain. I meant to say across the grain. The spur cuts the grain just ahead of the blade to prevent tear out.
//Special Note//
View this short video to see the Stanley 78 cut across the grain using the spur.
• Using the Stanley 78 R...
Whether you call it a rebate a fillister or a rabbet plane this is a definite go-to plane for many practical reasons.
00:00 Introduction Rabbat, Rebate, Fillister, or Rabbet
01:02 Stanley 78 usefulness
01:23 Parts and operation
03:33 Sharpening
04:23 Road test, adjusting and cutting a rabbet
07:17 Useful example
08:36 Concluding remarks
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@Elconbrioso Жыл бұрын

The plane - probably the tool that gives the most pleasure to work with. Something about that swishing sensation. My favourite - the record 06. Thank you for your video

@makingthings1463 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the comment.

@66windar 2 ай бұрын

Swiss swish Swiss dish😀

@joegiotta7580 8 ай бұрын

I have heard many old masters say that your blade should never be flush with the body. It was designed to protrude slightly so it gets right into the gullet of your rebate. Also, according to Stanley, experienced craftsmen, and every shop textbook I've ever read, have said that the nicker is there specifically to help it cut cross-grain. It may help for end grain, but that's not what it was designed for.

@makingthings1463 8 ай бұрын

You are absolutely right. I meant to say across the grain and should have shown an across the grain rabbet. thank you for the great comment and thanks for watching.

@cffbaddcde 9 ай бұрын

I use mine a fair deal as I don't have machine tools. I work in a quiet workshop/garage. I've used mine on all types of hardwood and soft. Great video, I like the calm, clear delivery.

@makingthings1463 9 ай бұрын

Thank you for the comment. I must admit I like the quiet of a hand plane. Glad you’re enjoying yours. Thanks for watching.

@murphymmc Жыл бұрын

When you need just one rabbet or two on a small project, you'll find the #78 is as fast or faster than setting up a router. Changing bits, setting depth, setting a fence on the router or work piece, doing a test cut, dealing with noise and dust. The only drawback I've encountered is doing a rabbet cut against grain, the solution of shallower cuts and a nicely sharpened iron (6000 grit is my minimum, yes, you'll notice the difference) works.

@makingthings1463 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the note. I agree, sharp really matters. I will also usually score with a knife across the grain instead of using the spur. Thanks again.

@PolishX 4 ай бұрын

Just got one that looks like it was never used at auction for $67.00 your video is saved in my reference section now thank you

@makingthings1463 4 ай бұрын

Great find!!! Hope you enjoy using it. Thanks for watching and the comment.

@johngreene8635 Жыл бұрын

Wow...I have searched the web for this video. Great video and well done especially on its use and the parts it has! Thank you for sharing!!

@makingthings1463 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the comment. Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching.

@66windar 2 ай бұрын

I used today to finish a chair rest arm.beautiful hand tool I’m figuring it all out Unkie

@makingthings1463 2 ай бұрын

Great

@stevem268 4 ай бұрын

my first old tool that wasn't a bench plane(long time ago!) handy little guy. never used the bullnose part though!

@makingthings1463 4 ай бұрын

Glad you like it. Thanks for the comment

@owenmanuela6949 Жыл бұрын

Excellent video and well explained there is nothing like using hand tools that are looked after and maintained

@makingthings1463 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for commenting. I agree.

@66windar 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for your U tube channel

@makingthings1463 2 ай бұрын

Thanks again

@_BigLife_ Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the video.a friend of mine from the UK Has shipped me a NO⁰ 78 and it should be here in days. Now i know how to use it.

@makingthings1463 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment, hope you get lots of use out of it. Thanks for watching

@christopherharrison6724 Жыл бұрын

I’ve got one but learned an extra little trick thanks to you sir ,thank you so much.

@makingthings1463 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the comment. A great little tool.

@scottmcfarland1177 Жыл бұрын

The 78 works like a charm love using mine!

@makingthings1463 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for commenting. They are a great little tool and more uses than you think. Thanks again.

@coda226 Жыл бұрын

Just inherited one of these. Super helpful video.

@makingthings1463 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the comment. I think you'll enjoy cutting a rabbet with it. Enjoy and thanks for watching

@andrewgray9663 Жыл бұрын

Very pleasant video to watch with a really pleasing presenting style. I used one of these planes in the UK for many years and we also call this a rabbet plane. I always took this to be a corruption of rebate. When I used a Sranley 78 it was usually faster to set up and use than a router and there are few things more pleasing than the sound of a well set up plane shaving wood.

@makingthings1463 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the note. I agree with you, rabbet is a corruption of rebate. I so enjoyed your description of planing wood with a well set up hand plane. Just today I jointed a piece of wood with a Stanley no. 8 even though I have a power jointer. The plane is heavy and sharp and the grain was nice and helpful. It was a pleasure and nearly silent. Thanks again and enjoy your hand tools.

@robinalexander5772 Жыл бұрын

The blade should be proud of the body by 1/2 mill to 1mill as the side edge of blade cuts your wall. You will also notice the side of blade is bevelled to help this action. cheers

@makingthings1463 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment, sorry I missed this 6 months ago. Thank you for watching.

@savagejourdan7170 7 ай бұрын

Great comment! I was losing my mind trying to figure out why the walls of my rabbets were so rough!

@brandonbritt99 Жыл бұрын

this is amazing even if it takes a few extra minutes I think it would help prevent tear out compared to a router Thanks for the video !!

@makingthings1463 Жыл бұрын

I agree, thanks for watching..

@OffGrid9 8 ай бұрын

Wonderful video. I picked up a No. 78 on eBay a few months back, and just got around to fettling it, sharpening the blade, and tried using it. IT WORKS, and it cuts nice rabbets...if I remember to fully tighten the fence so it doesn't wander, and then to focus on holding the plane tight up against the fence on every stroke, to keep the inner corner of the rabbet sharp and clean. If I let my attention wander, and take just one stroke with the fence NOT tight up against the workpiece, the corner gets rounded, and I have to clean it up with a chisel later (I haven't yet figured out how to correct the issue with the plane, once that corner is rounded). However, I do run into a problem that you don't seem to have, not at all -- my No. 78 gets chips jammed into the innards very quickly -- I keep a pick on hand to dig them out. You get nice long even shavings, without a jam. What am I doing wrong?

@makingthings1463 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment. I have jamming problems too, I think it has to do with the wood you are planning and its dryness and its grain. Whatever it was I used in that video must have been just right. I do try for thin shavings and have it as sharp as I know how. Thanks for watching.

@geordiecs Жыл бұрын

I appreciate attention to this plane, it’s definitely not an essential tool but they do pop up at flea markets and junk shops/antique malls. To be clear about cutting end grain, the nicker pre-slices the fibers across the grain, essentially a tiny crosscut, right (the sole of the plane is resting on the face of the board as you plane)? I could see how someone could interpret what you’re saying as making a rabbet but resting the sole on the end of the board rather than the face, which is definitely doable on large stock but not practical on most stuff. Also, like ploughing grooves, if you have even mildly unforgiving grain it helps to start at the end of the rabbet and make a 1” nibble at the end and double or so the size of your stroke as you progress.

@makingthings1463 Жыл бұрын

Great suggestions, thank you for the comments and thanks for watching.

@grahamsengineering.2532 Жыл бұрын

I have my fathers old No 78. It has all the attachments. I don't use it as I have a Router but the Plane is has a high sentimental value. Nice to see this vid even though I know how to use the plane. Thankyou for sharing.

@makingthings1463 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the note.

@bestbuilder1st Жыл бұрын

By the time you get the Router out, plug it in, make the settings (depth and height), and get the dust extraction hooked up and functioning, get your ear protection and eye protection on; if you used your father's No 78 you would be long done and off to the next thing. Oh, and now you have to put all that stuff back- Router, fence, PPE, and vacuum up the shop from all the small dust, the dust extractions missed., just saying.

@66windar 2 ай бұрын

I just inherited a box from unkie.And there’s a Stanley 78 RIP Unkie

@makingthings1463 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment Enjoy your new plane.

@k9six185 Жыл бұрын

Restoring a 78 right now….just flattened the sole and the side and got them 90’…I will use it mostly as a shoulder plane

@makingthings1463 Жыл бұрын

Sorry I missed this comment so long ago. Hope you're using this by now. A great versatile little plane. Thanks again

@TheSMEAC Жыл бұрын

A fillister is a rabbet across the grain, where as a rabbet it with the grain. To say that a rabbet is faster by router depends upon the router being set up in advance. A rabbet plane metal or wood is far faster than machines and I’d only need a machine if I have many many many yards of the same rabbet on multiple timbers to cut. Just my 2¢

@makingthings1463 Жыл бұрын

I agree!!, thank you for the comment. and thanks for watching.

@4K68 Жыл бұрын

nice

@makingthings1463 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment. Don't know how I missed this 6 months ago. Thank you for watching.

@terrychristian672 2 ай бұрын

Can you say more about your 90 degrees comment on sharpening? It doesn’t look like a 90 degree plane angle.

@makingthings1463 2 ай бұрын

Thanks for the comment. I meant 90 degrees across the sharp end of the blade in relation to the side of the blade. Sometimes when people sharpen by hand without a guide the angle can be off a bit. Most planes will let you correct with a lateral adjustment but this plane the side of the blade is flush with the 90 degree body of the plane. This will insure a level bottom of the rabbet. Thanks again, hope this made sense.

@athmostafa2462 Жыл бұрын

O , man love mine ☺️

@makingthings1463 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comment

@tnuis Жыл бұрын

And what is the difference between putting the blade in the middle section vs the front section?

@makingthings1463 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the comment. The front section would be the equivalent to a bull-nose plane. Kind of hard to handle with very little toe in front of the blade. Also it is not aligned as well with the fence support. Thirdly, adjustment is tough because it does not have the adjustment lever at that location. Best reserved for bull-nose needs like cleaning up a rabbet at an inside corner. Thanks again.

@einsam_aber_frei Ай бұрын

Can it be used for mortise?

@makingthings1463 Ай бұрын

Not really made for that. Can be used like a shoulder plane to clean up tenons though. For mortising I usually just drill with a forstner bit and chisel the edges square with a mortising chisel. Thanks for the comment and thanks for watching.

@christophermcclellan8730 Жыл бұрын

I’d recommend looking for a different model. The fence on the 78 only attaches at one point and likes to pivot out of square if you’re not very careful.

@makingthings1463 Жыл бұрын

Thank you for the note. I agree you have be kind of gentle with it. The attachment point is right at the blade though, so the main bearing point is even with the blade. Which model do you use for this kind of thing? Always curious about what's out there. Thanks again.

@christophermcclellan8730 Жыл бұрын

@@makingthings1463 I have a 78. I’ve seen fillister planes with fences that attach at two points, but I don’t know what make they are. I just know I wished I would’ve gotten one.

@makingthings1463 Жыл бұрын

Thanks again. I'm afraid if I had the room and the $$$ I'd have them all. Thank you again and enjoy working with these old tools.

@nigelburge3613 Жыл бұрын

@@christophermcclellan8730 That is the Record 778. Probably better than the Stanley 78.

@makingthings1463 Жыл бұрын

Yeah the Record plane has 2 supports for the fence and a much better blade depth adjustment using a screw instead of the lever on the Stanley. Thanks again for the note.