Let's take a look at the recent trailer for CBS's new show Star Trek Lower Decks, and see if it's any good. Spoiler: It isn't.
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@TheCriticalDrinker4 жыл бұрын
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@miguelgrau83484 жыл бұрын
4 am in lima. Best time to watch my favorite drinker
@We_Are_Borg_4784 жыл бұрын
I think this is just another one of Q's tricks. You hear that, Q? The game is up!
@imblacksoimslow57314 жыл бұрын
Wait wait wait!!!.... lol Star trek was never smart!
@imblacksoimslow57314 жыл бұрын
@@We_Are_Borg_478 lol on it's not!... The game never stop's!
@michaelcrean14564 жыл бұрын
I dont want to support the channel. I just want to watch and enjoy your videos for free. - troll 2020
@SilverAxe134 жыл бұрын
I swear, every recent animated show has had the EXACT same art style...
@markmarderosian40254 жыл бұрын
Yep. Every major Disney animated film from 1937 to 1963 had a different style. Sleeping Beauty's art approach looked nothing like Snow White. Now, they all seem to be the same jelly bean look to eyes and faces.
@jhafemeister04 жыл бұрын
CalArts can be thanked for that
@blizzardregulus4 жыл бұрын
It's the Cal Arts assembly line. Fuckin' rubber hose and jellybean face. That's all they bloody teach over there.
@badlaamaurukehu4 жыл бұрын
@@blizzardregulus Honestly so many of modern writers for this tripe must all come from their own assembly line as well.
@sarq66934 жыл бұрын
It’s an extremely cheap and lazy style. They’re trying to cut cost which is sacrificing the quality in all shows that decide to use it.
@someaccount6594 жыл бұрын
Imagine destroying Star Trek, Star Wars and doctor who all In a few years
@olucaspc4 жыл бұрын
add to the list The Terminator
@VinzKlortho4 жыл бұрын
It’s kinda depressing but true :-/
@MerlosTheMad4 жыл бұрын
That's kind of their playbook: Destroy the pillars of your culture and history...
@SchnookieC4 жыл бұрын
They’re destroying art to take away people’s ability to think freely, it’s all part of the incoming subjugation, they don’t need us watching movies, they need us doing our jobs, making money and asking no questions, it’s a sad state of affairs really
@Darkness19844 жыл бұрын
Star wars was destroyed 20 years ago.
@rudyarness83172 жыл бұрын
I know this was released as a reaction to the trailer, but honestly - I really REALLY enjoyed the first two seasons of Lower Decks. The adage that this was aimed at kids is not really accurate - it's for adults. Prodigy is for the kids. Would like to see a reaction video now that two seasons have gone by and see if you still have the same opinion?
@longshot58662 жыл бұрын
I am also very curious what he thinks now. The show is really fun and pokes fun of trek in ways that a true fan would. "Did you just say sen-soars?" The male characters aren't weak to female character look strong. The character development for them is awesome. Brad's character arc is amazing, you can't not love The Boims. We are watching him grow into trek legend material.
@TheKnightOfSmite2 жыл бұрын
@@longshot5866 I think he would say the same thing, but rather that they bank more on memes and nostalgia as they made Trek into a comedy, when it was serious with occasional quest themes (TOS), existential meaning (TNG) or serious political threads (DS9). Something like "yeah you might be Trekkies, however this series is aimed at post-millennial humour, a new Trek audience with some homages, but what you're making isn't Trek because Trek isn't slapstick and it would require trying to ignore how incompetent these people are for the sake of the plot". Then probably reference The Orville as doing a better version because it's an original IP that found an audience and went with it without messing up Trek canon (to the Drinker, canon and continuity loyalty in the sense of treating it with respect is huge).
@nebulous66604 ай бұрын
*It's made for people who are old enough to be adults but never got there.
@wesleythomas71254 ай бұрын
@@nebulous6660 [Abruptly stops eating supper with a goblet halfway to my mouth]
@stanman26011 ай бұрын
Trash review. LD is great. Follows Canon and makes fun of it. Not woke or cringey. Just fun Trek.
@xxxUPGRAYEDDxxx4 күн бұрын
i agree, however this isnt a review.. it came out before the show did. and from the trailers before the show came out.. i can see why it would be expected to be like this.
@dan12734 жыл бұрын
Man, not even a "go away now" we got a "leave me alone." They've made something so awful it has affected The Drinker THAT negatively.
@FORTEtheSECOND4 жыл бұрын
My guess is, had he done that, he'd be showing some kind of generosity towards this totally unfunny excuse-for-a-'cartoon'? ;_;
@ShiftyKen084 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I immediately caught that too. Even Captain Mary Sue got that infamous outro. Man, he must be REALLY pissed about this one!
@sophiam20954 жыл бұрын
@@ShiftyKen08 I'm pissed but I don't really like Trek. When Trek works it REALLY works, but this shit doesn't inspire any confidence in me. Frankly Robot Chicken's Night Crew was more downplayed and less desperate in it's humor and that was a frickin Robot Chicken skit.
@dan12734 жыл бұрын
@@sophiam2095 That is exactly what I was thinking, and that was just a skit on Robot Chicken! How sad is it that a short skit had more in-depth characterization than that whole trailer did?
@Nine-Signs4 жыл бұрын
"HERE! MORE TREK< YOU LIKE IT DONT YOU< YOU MUST LIKE IT< HERE EVEN MORE TREK< HONEST IT'S ALL GOOD TREK! LIKE IT! LIKE IT!" - Corporations and the capitalists who own them, via Kurtzman. "Leave me alone -.-" 90% of the fan base.
@ThenameisMarsh4 жыл бұрын
"...with the animation quality of South Park" C'mon, don't insult South Park like that
@crimsonislandmachine10574 жыл бұрын
I agree, he should've said that it is animation quality of a shitshow version of Final Space and Final Space is 4x much better then this crap right here, something I feel sorry for Star Trek fans because CBS doesn't give a crap about quality but only about profits from only the name brand.
@Thecrucialdruggy4 жыл бұрын
At least South Park is funny and well written
@markusandrew36804 жыл бұрын
I think it looks clean and generic, than South Park. Where South Park looks more artistic and unique.
@Thecrucialdruggy4 жыл бұрын
grievous549 I love South Park, always have, always will...I don’t have anything to say about the animated Star Trek non sense other than I won’t be watching it...a pointless comment yes...but animation quality has almost nothing to do with a good show...a lot of South Parks best episodes occurred in the earlier seasons when the animation was in its primitive phase
@mandykarevicius97464 жыл бұрын
More like the animation quality of Family Guy... Where the lame bug-eyed characters just stand there and stare blankly as another dumbass joke is being born.
@hunterschoumacher95602 жыл бұрын
I usually agree with the drinker but this time you may have been premature with this one. I binged this show after getting Paramount plus for the sole reason of watching the DE of Star Trek-TMP. Now while I agree Picard and Discovery are almost unbearable to watch, this show made me laugh and I thought it really picked up by mid-season one and continued through season two. Being animated you can do a lot more and there are so many fun Easter eggs and call backs to prior Star Trek shows, including TAS. Sober up my friend and give it another shot. I think you will be pleasantly surprised.
@jonoctopie2779 Жыл бұрын
I think the drinks be making him to political about everything. Best he drink some water
@Dowlphin11 ай бұрын
@@jonoctopie2779 No, he is a Trek purist. LD is saddening if this is how it has to be - giving Futurama humor a Trek franchise paint. It's kinda like watching Wrath of Khan but with shaking camera and 50% lens flares on screen all the time. - It's just not a feasible mix. BTW, I like Picard (relatively much), but LD I could only endure half a season or so.
@Wonderfowl8 ай бұрын
3 years later, I'm happy to see that this Drinker Review doesn't represent what Lower Decks is. I avoided it like the plague at first because after shows like Picard and Discovery, I certainly was NOT into the idea of a cartoon parody jokey show that picked fun at something I loved... But now having seen 2 seasons of Strange New Worlds -- an actual GOOD TREK SHOW in the 2020's no less -- I was willing to give Lower Decks a go. I was ready to have some fun to go beside the (mostly) taken seriously Strange New Worlds. And I gotta say... i LOVE Lower Decks. I love it a lot, actually. It's REALLY good, and you can tell the people involved give a damn about Trek because it celebrates it in the most fun way... praising Trek while poking fun at it's ridiculousness. It's the PRAISING part that is important because you can tell the jokes at Trek's expense come from a place of love. It's not vile, crule, or meanspirited like you get from other shows and movies that seem to want to dump on things we like. I would genuinely say watch Strange New Worlds and Lower Decks. Give them another go if you gave up on them before. I think you will find them to be quite enjoyable! Thankfully, the negatives that are given in this review are not things that came to light. Boimler (purple hair guy) is an awkward punching bag, but he's extremely intelligent and competent and they show that constantly, he's just also naïve. Mariner (the gal he's with) is the hot-shot street-smart ensign, who has lots of experience and contacts, but really sucks at being "starfleet", only being IN it for reasons that are revealed quickly. Lower Decks is entirely lacking in the mean-spirited, social politics that exist today. Lower Decks IS for people who love Trek.
@Oetam85667 ай бұрын
Best example of Boimler kicking ass is in the Borg test. He saves the Borg babies, beats the Queen at chess, and teaches her empathy. 100% 😂
@misecarp6 ай бұрын
Same, I've thoroughly enjoyed it. Between the final Picard, Strange New Worlds, and this... I almost have hope again...
@jaimeriot18546 ай бұрын
Right? Drinker is being a whiner, gotta wonder if he even watched it or if he's just too sour at this point to enjoy comedy.
@apeehimalayachand48695 күн бұрын
Your comment was truly helpful. They fK other Francise in the name of inclusiveness... They focus more on LGBTQUVWXYZ++ rather than story but we are fans we don't care unless the story is good and engaging
@deadlee0b14 жыл бұрын
The Orville: When a comedic pardoy show is more like Star Trek than Star Trek, you have a problem.
@joshc96764 жыл бұрын
The Orville isn't awesome or anything spectacular but it's definitely a funny show to throw on t.v.
@Name-ps9fx4 жыл бұрын
Josh C Exactly. It isn’t “awesome” or “spectacular” to the standards we expect from ST, but it’s closer ( *much* closer) than anything recently.
@changofett774 жыл бұрын
Man, i loved The Orville, some episodes are really well written and its characters have interesting arcs too.
@Knirin4 жыл бұрын
The last two episodes of season 2 wouldn’t qualify as comedic ripoff in my book. Almost straight out of Voyager’s Year of Hell double feature.
@TheStuckNorris4 жыл бұрын
Orville is almost a shot for shot remake of all the good episodes of the next generation. Its a literal miracle they werent sued for plagerism
@Quickpatch123 жыл бұрын
The Orville: made by a man who has a genuine love of the Star Trek series, and wanted to share his love. Modern Star Trek: made because money, they love money
@GuacamoleKun3 жыл бұрын
Someone who loves money and isn't a fucking idiot would have hired the people who genuinely love Star Trek.
@M0butu3 жыл бұрын
Those tards don't do it for the money. They are on a crusade.
@Ambaryerno3 жыл бұрын
The Orville: SO much better when it was called "Galaxy Quest."
@beingsshepherd3 жыл бұрын
Both creatively-purposeless failures.
@Azraiel2133 жыл бұрын
Made because politics. They can't have thought that this would be profitable, nobody's that stupid.
@antimattv2 жыл бұрын
It's interesting that "The Orville", actually written by Seth MacFarlane ended up being far more respectful than the "real" franchise is now. That show even had a couple of pretty thought provoking episodes. Maybe because the man is a legitimate fan of the original series'.
@danic_c Жыл бұрын
Tbh, if you watch this show you can tell the writers are also fans of the old Trek. They poke fun at some of the sillier stuff and it can come off as a bit of nostalgia bait, but it seems like these references and riffs come from a sincere place of love.
@antimattv Жыл бұрын
@@danic_c 100% I agree
@Dowlphin11 ай бұрын
I found Orville to be missing too much of the real core, dunno. It was like a well-meaning copy job of someone who might be a fan, but not one of the smartest fans. An excellent example for fans doing great stuff with the lore is, of course, *Star Trek Continues.*
@antimattv11 ай бұрын
@@Dowlphin Orville is 100% it's own show, though. I just mean that a brief shadow of the *feeling* I got from the latter ST:VOY or early ST:ENT franchises is there. On the other hand, the newer proper Star Trek shows have had none of the flavour of the past. My point is simply that for a standalone, humor based show that isn't even in the same IP, the Orville felt a whole lot more like the 1990s Star Treks. It is also my opinion that the new ones have been an absolute dumpster fire. Typical of much that comes out of Hollywood these days. Lots of action sequences, shallow characters and even more shallow social commentary.
@TheAuron322 жыл бұрын
if you want to see an example of Lowe Ranked people in a Sci-Fi setting, watch Red Dwarf, its still funny to this day.
@benjaminwiffen27833 жыл бұрын
Just when you think Star Trek has hit rock bottom, you discover that Star Trek's bottom has a lower deck
@RobotronSage3 жыл бұрын
^ this. Somebody take Star Trek off of CBS's hands for the love of everything that is holy
@ft6zzz3 жыл бұрын
Okay, that was pretty good.
@Tacoguy10003 жыл бұрын
Good one.
@reapordeath3 жыл бұрын
@@RobotronSage who would you even put into now? Everyone practically is ENFORCING "progressive" ideals without the ability to even write the stories and characters. Its truly disgusting to take a beloved name and just puke stuff on top of it without any care about the original source material.
@douglasrowland37223 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that...at least your remark has more humor and creativity that that mess the dare to put in front of us.
@Jason_Black4 жыл бұрын
CBS: _Yeah just turn the comments off for this one._
@steprockmedia4 жыл бұрын
Dang!!! You're right!!! Way to 100% crap on the fans with that one!
@Firehazerd54444 жыл бұрын
I mean with it being so different I'm not surprised that there are going to be people who shit on it
@scottmantooth87854 жыл бұрын
*so stunning and brave of them*
@vaavet7104 жыл бұрын
MechanizedMan its not just different, its a random cartoon with a star trek skin
@High_Caliber4 жыл бұрын
@@Firehazerd5444 ABSOLUTELY! It's ALWAYS the fault of the fans! I mean, what other possible reason could there be? They have the most talented, progressive writers that hollywood has to offer, how could it be anything except sensational, if only the fans were woke enough to appreciate it. You are wise beyond years.
@josephtremblay4 Жыл бұрын
Drinker, I have to say that while first impressions do matter, here I believe it was more mistake in marketing than it was a fault of the show. The first two episodes were a bit too dry, I’ll definitely admit, but I gotta say that the rest of the show has been nothing but stellar. It is a parody in the best sense of Star Trek as a whole, constantly referencing and quipping on some of the more ridiculous aspects of the show in a way that only somebody working in a place like the lower decks could possibly accomplish, and overall it is an absolute win. out of a long laundry list of crap that CBS has put out time and again for our unfortunate viewing “pleasure“, this has actually been a rare gem that I eagerly await the next episode for. i highly t recommend you give this a shot!
@TheJbrinks4 ай бұрын
except all the woke bullshit with the super girl boss who can do everything. i gave it a chance but it just became too much.
@wesleythomas71254 ай бұрын
@@TheJbrinksWho, Mariner? She only gets away with it because of nepotism.
@SMunro9 ай бұрын
Any update post about how much striking fun lower decks is?
@chadking37939 ай бұрын
But it isn't.
@transformerstuff70298 ай бұрын
@@chadking3793 why not?
@fatalrob0t3 жыл бұрын
Star Wars is for when you want space battles and blasters; Star Trek is for when you want space exploration and hope for the future.
@michelecastellotti91723 жыл бұрын
Huh, someone gets it, too bad both now covers both... in the WORST way possible
@screwistic3 жыл бұрын
Star wars does have some good story watch Dave filoni explains the prequels
@michelecastellotti91723 жыл бұрын
@@screwistic fuck yeah bröther
@michelecastellotti91723 жыл бұрын
@Kryptoskillet i dont know about that one chief, and i am a star wars fan XD
@jeffreyhejny75223 жыл бұрын
@Kryptoskillet, You should have paid more attention in science class.
@vincent2073 жыл бұрын
I'm hardly the first to say it, but modern Trek is made by and for people who don't like Star Trek.
@SnakeWasRight3 жыл бұрын
Who dont like star trek to market to people who dont like star trek, but who want name recognition of star trek.
@deedlessdeity2183 жыл бұрын
Just like Star Wars and anything else you can imagine. It's just title-flaying for the "edgy counter-culturists" who have zero plan or idea of what comes after everything's been torn down. They don't care. They never will.
@SnakeWasRight3 жыл бұрын
@@deedlessdeity218 it's people who cant create on their own, and yet they think they can do better, so they take over the existing properties to transform them into their twisted social justice vision. Same as communism, they can't create, they just want to take control of existing industries to serve them. And incidentally, most of the social justice people are commies, and tor a reason. No actual solution, just a disdain for what is here.
@CleverGirlAAH3 жыл бұрын
@@SnakeWasRight An accurate and logical analysis.
@NoActuallyGo-KCUF-Yourself3 жыл бұрын
It's the same in a lot of franchises. Any of you like Dungeons & Dragons? I used to, before it was ruined by a company that is actively insulting its customer base. I'm trying to think of anything I used to love that wasn't ruined by post-post-modernist bullshit. It's a hard think.
@randomuser1093 Жыл бұрын
After watching 3 seasons of this show, I honestly really liked it, so I really wish Critical Drinker would make a new review. I know that Star Trek has a really bad record before this so it’s understandable why he is not hopeful for this show. But man it’s actually pretty good imo
@nerdsubculture845 Жыл бұрын
I actually avoided this show because of this review. My kids started watching, and we all love the show now. I think you're right, I believe the drinker jumped the gun on this show.
@demonking1823 Жыл бұрын
I honestly agree. Live long and prosper!
@Parkerdiggon Жыл бұрын
@@nerdsubculture845 The critical drinker is a moron, he hasn't had a decent take on a show or movie ever.
@awesomedayz3465 Жыл бұрын
I agree! It had its growing pains early on but what show hasn't? It's good Trek that doesn't shit on canon.
@MystiqWisdom Жыл бұрын
Okay, I'm gonna give this show another chance because the VERY OPENING SCENE is ultra cringey. To me, that's not really Star Trek. The pilot of Strange New Worlds was more of what I think Star Trek is, even though it was a bit on the nose about the "strange alien humanoid world" destroying itself with super-nukes. Lower Decks honestly felt like CBS was pitching the idea of "Hey, that show Family Guy is _really_ popular. We need our own Family Guy, but we just have the Star Trek IP. What can we do?"
@michaeljurney8354 Жыл бұрын
This video is a perfect example of why you shouldnt judge a show by the trailer. Lower decks is awesome. All the characters regardless of gender race etc are equally flawed. Its pure start trek. Its just,... the normal people, instead of the megasuperstars like riker and picard. its well done, please watch the show and update!
@gregmartin222 Жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@LochaVerse-ku5jw8 ай бұрын
I agree
@universpro77418 ай бұрын
Great characters, stories and comedy and you don't need to know anything about star trek
@Oetam85667 ай бұрын
Such a good show! I love it!
@pabloecklobar5854 жыл бұрын
The Critical Drinker is pretty much the only reviewer I trust anymore. Edit: Cheers for the suggestions guys and dolls. I hadn't heard of a few of those :)
@chrismitchell40104 жыл бұрын
IKR!!!!
@kieran64174 жыл бұрын
And RLM
@longleaf12174 жыл бұрын
same here friend.
@kellinwinslow19884 жыл бұрын
The Drinker as well as Mike and Rich from RLM along with Rob Myer Burnett and the Lorerunner are the only Star Trek critics I trust. RLM is the best at being funny while really going indepth on Trek while Lorerunner is the best at examinations with his ruminations but they are all great.
@hungarianbeast4 жыл бұрын
Not to advertise under someones videos, but if you haven't allready, check out r e d l e t t e r m e d i a
@UncleRed4 жыл бұрын
"You asked, and we listened" Those who write toilet graffiti are more in touch with their audience.
@BELCAN574 жыл бұрын
You listened, but WE know what's best for you !
@Journey_Awaits4 жыл бұрын
At least Wendy knows to give a good time to those calling her number
@mattboggs63044 жыл бұрын
Here I sit broken-hearted. Tried to shit but only farted. Still better writing than anything in Star Trek, Star Wars, Dr. Who etc during the last several years.
@UncleRed4 жыл бұрын
@@mattboggs6304 my point exactly. Don't forget to wash your hands. 😉
@kayden52384 жыл бұрын
i admit when i see a dick written on the wall i feel more of a connection then watching StarTrek these days
@teamkillz123452 жыл бұрын
I started Lower Decks with skepticism, and first few episodes were shaky. However sad to say its the most enjoyable series of the 3 current ones, and is the most true to its TNG roots while poking at problems within the Trek universe at the same time.
@foxpants11 ай бұрын
It has found it's feet better in the later seasons, but relies heavily on member berries and cameo's to get the older crowd in, and I agree with the annoying continuation of useless/weak male leads. Also the Drinker was spot on, I would have been ~10 when I got into TNG and it captivated a younger me almost immediately, because it's genuinely good, a possible future to actually aspire to.
@Dowlphin11 ай бұрын
@@foxpants It takes a fan team to produce a truly masterful continuation of true Trek. I hope you are all already aware of *Star Trek Continues.* - Man, I love the fact there is one example to show how it can be done, to continue the lore faithfully, respectfully.
@foxpants11 ай бұрын
@@Dowlphin I wasn't aware but I sure will check it out now, cheers!
@joringedamke559710 ай бұрын
@@Dowlphin is that the same thing as Phase II?
@Dowlphin10 ай бұрын
@@joringedamke5597 If you mean New Voyages, I didn't really like that fan series. Continues is much better in my view, in several aspects.
@jackskellingtonsora Жыл бұрын
This show, as a comedy, has way more respect and passion for the source material than Discovery or Picard. Lower Decks is utterly fantastic.
@BeardedDanishViking Жыл бұрын
Ah but is it good on it's own merit or good because Kurtzman Trek is so abominably bad? Something to consider.
@jackskellingtonsora Жыл бұрын
@@BeardedDanishViking On its own merit, for sure. Lower Decks could have come out alongside DS9, my favorite Trek show, and I would have loved it.
@Autobotmatt428 Жыл бұрын
@@BeardedDanishViking If you don't know much about star trek which i don't its watchable and has moments. but thats it.
@mickk8519 Жыл бұрын
@@jackskellingtonsora Your favourite Trek show is DS9, hmmm, that speaks volumes, and lowers the validity of your opinion about Below Decks, in fact, it lowers the validity of your opinion on anything Star Trek based.
@jackskellingtonsora Жыл бұрын
@@mickk8519 I don't know what to tell you. DS9 is the best Star Trek show. It's not my fault if you don't have taste. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
@dorado53514 жыл бұрын
The Drinker was so depressed about this new Star Trek show that he couldn’t even finish his iconic line
@Gyrfalcon3124 жыл бұрын
That was a surprise move, for sure.
@glyphsaiyan8584 жыл бұрын
When the reviewer is so lazy, he can't even show current depictions of RT scores and relies on old screenshots from a year or two ago.
@secretname47974 жыл бұрын
Gonna cry?
@TuxedoKamina4 жыл бұрын
@@glyphsaiyan858 I mean 51%, 37% and 57% aren't numbers to brag about either.
@jr29044 жыл бұрын
He's just subverting our expectations, how are you so blind??
@shadiversity4 жыл бұрын
The Orville is the new Star Trek, I'd say may Star Trek rest in peace but they keep desecrating it's grave, STOP, IT'S ALREADY DEAD!!!
@edgarallanpwned66664 жыл бұрын
Its actually depressing.
@MultiKeto4 жыл бұрын
it can`t rest in peace anymore. not after what has happened to it. it will haunt the earth vor ever.
@dafyddking14694 жыл бұрын
Hi Professor Swordie
@mrman55174 жыл бұрын
assuming your are also holding a tricorder, should you fire a phaser "around the outside" or cross arms to fire "on the inside" ? :P
@Darkness19844 жыл бұрын
If you like repeated old trek storys with more fart and dick jokes in them then sure, Orville is great.
@MarsM13 Жыл бұрын
She's a million miles from being a Mary Sue. In fact she's a pretty bad fuckup and she gets called on it hard. You misjudged this show badly, Drinker.
@Anty20042 жыл бұрын
When I was 10 I remember watching Buffy, Star Trek, new adventures of Superman, Farscape, Sliders, Star Wars (I know it wasn't a series but I watched it every week like it was 1). Kids are so much more switched on and mature than they give them credit for.
@palaiologos44413 жыл бұрын
It's funny that you mention Mary Sue in a Star Trek context, considering that the Mary Sue spawned from a Star Trek fanfic
@robertwilliams25203 жыл бұрын
Well, that's interesting. (-:
@protorhinocerator1423 жыл бұрын
The captain needs a certain amount of confidence and wisdom, or else why are they the captain? This said, the point of a Star Trek captain is to go out and face the unknown. They can't always be right. They have to fail and recover or there's no point. Kirk and Picard failed all the time and had to recover. Pike, Janeway, and Sisko - fail, fail, fail, recover, recover, recover. This is what gives the audience the confidence that the crew needs to have in the fact that the captains are worth their pay checks. Yeah that's right, paid in money. Forget all that "there's no money in the future" nonsense. In the first season or two of STTNG, Wesley Crusher was annoyingly right about everything in every episode, to the point where you have to wonder how other starships survive without a Wesley on board. Everyone hated him about as much as Cousin Oliver from The Brady Bunch. Wesley was a Gary Stue. That's the male equivalent of a Mary Sue. Wesley wasn't right on target but he was close enough that I despised him in every scene. Nobody likes a Mary Sue, or a Gary Stue.
@Jesus_Offical3 жыл бұрын
@@protorhinocerator142 Youre Correct
@protorhinocerator1423 жыл бұрын
@Ruosong Gao I'm not sure how "popular" they are. Especially today when they've become so common that there's a name for it and people are aware that they exist.
@sumeunggai56653 жыл бұрын
@@protorhinocerator142 I thought being good at things is only one aspect of a Mary Sue, the other being their unrelenting redeeming qualities? In that case I might challenge the idea of him being one by pointing out that while Wesley was incredibly bright and talented, he was also immature, impulsive, insecure, and at times irresponsible (hm). A smart dumb kid.
@whatwhat984 жыл бұрын
"Anyway whatever leave me alone. " Wow you must really be pissed and depressed
@AzureKnight24 жыл бұрын
I don't feel right unless The Drinker tells me to "go away now."
@MrTkillian4 жыл бұрын
Early Drinker: "As always thank you for your time and hope you enjoyed the video." Later Drinker: "That's all I have for today....go away now." Modern Drinker: "Anyway whatever leave me alone." No better reflection of the progression of a career in modern media criticism.
@arekpetrosian49654 жыл бұрын
Can't say I blame him. Star Trek was a great "universe", with good characters, compelling stories, and some pretty decent acting. WAS. Now, it's turned into shyte, ruined by "agendas", destruction of everything that made it great, and ignoring what the fans want, in favor of trying to...hell, I don't even know what they're trying to do. But what I do know is, the last few years have seen the destruction of every single franchise that was once considered great. Aliens, Terminator, Predator, Star Wars, Star Trek...all of them torn down, destroyed, reduced to sad, pathetic parodies of what once made them great. I'm not one for conspiracies, but I can't shake the feeling that this is all deliberate.
@NathanCassidy7212 жыл бұрын
8:14 THANK YOU! I’ve been saying this shit for years that just because they don’t have the experience of age doesn’t mean you should treat them like morons. After being forced to watch modern “kids” movies with my family (I’m the oldest by around 7 years), it always pissed me off how simple and stupid the dialogue is because they think children are fragile. Too fragile that they can’t handle mature themes like maintaining functional relationships or death. Children that inevitability grow up and will get pissed that you thought they were an idiot. I don’t know about anyone else but went back at the movies of my childhood like The Lion King, Shrek, Mulan, Toy Story, I was surprised by the themes they covered. It’s alsmost as if the filmmakers respected the adults being forced to watch with their kids by making it enjoyable for everyone. Hell, even stuff like Space Jam respected my intelligence by going places didn’t need to go.
@discman15 Жыл бұрын
When I was a kid, my favorite movies were Star Wars, back to the Future, The Hunt for Red October and sister act. Some of them have a little goofiness or some jokes but generally they're pretty serious. I could never get into the really goofy slapstick stuff, at a young age it just wasn't as interesting as the high stakes gambits and consequences from more complex movies
@AJARyan-yn2uv11 ай бұрын
Ye. The Lion King may have the cute characters and catchy songs for kids to enjoy, but the adults will get a surprisingly very biblical movie.
@Dowlphin11 ай бұрын
*Avatar - The Last Airbender* would be a good example of high-quality kids TV. Quite the mature themes in it, but kids can totally handle that when conveyed in the right style. Also, as a reverse example, of course, *MLPFiM,* a show made for young girls, but because the show creation was a work of love, with the fan enthusiasm factor, and made with compassion for parents watching with their kids in mind 😅, it is quite delightful to watch for adults, too, at least those not totally jaded by the grimdark side of reality.
@Unit-34757 ай бұрын
He was raised on a healthy mixture of Soviet classics of animation and pictures by PIXAR and Dreamworks - they gave unforgettable impressions and inspiration. They knew how to joke and were not afraid to raise serious topics. Therefore, both children and adults love them. I didn’t like Disney at first sight, and I still have a wild allergic reaction to him. They seemed so... hysterical. Now I look and am disgust at what idiots the creators of this crap take us for. What’s annoying is not even the quality and primitivism, but the expectation that we will really empathize with complete scum of the level of Family Guy.
@Unit-34757 ай бұрын
@@Dowlphin Yes! Great example! I remember when my brother and I came across him on TV, we watched it all day, he fascinated us so much. And for God's sake don't mention MLP, I'm starting to start rainbow foaming from my ears
@casparmeredith98344 ай бұрын
I never intended to watch lower decks, it looked really childish and not the kind of thing I would be interested in. However I ended up binging the first season on a long haul flight and watched the next three seasons when I got home. It's honestly really got the star trek feeling whilst also being a fun heartfelt parody of everything which came before. Didn't think I would like the characters but ended up loving them and their development. As someone who is pretty sceptical of new trek I would deffinately reccomend!
@Raphael_Bizmann4 жыл бұрын
> "leave me alone" > instead of "go away now" Who are you and what have you done with the drinker?
@carynschmidt50614 жыл бұрын
I need my proper dismissal!
@Isnogood124 жыл бұрын
I think you answered your own question. "What have they done to the drinker?" This video was so depressing to make he couldn't even.
@SarahBright4 жыл бұрын
So... are we staying here or...?
@androth15024 жыл бұрын
he either had too little to drink, or too much.
@eldritchedward4 жыл бұрын
I'm sitting here, waiting. I... I just don't know what to do now. Usually, at this point, I'd do something else. But... ...how... ...how do I go on?
@xanderguldie4 жыл бұрын
To paraphrase Bree Larson: if you're a straight, white, TOS-loving person, this franchise isn't made for you anymore
@HiVoltish4 жыл бұрын
That lazer-like focus on 3% of the population....
@shayZero4 жыл бұрын
Then the audience doesnt exist lol
@owentova4 жыл бұрын
Lol new star trek is made for people who don't even like star trek. I don't know why they can't just make star trek for the fans. We ain't going anywhere
@LePedant4 жыл бұрын
Awww, your white fragility is showing.
@visionist74 жыл бұрын
@@LePedant black votes matter
@maikatase2 ай бұрын
I'm so glad this video ended up aging horribly! Both Lower Decks and Strange New Worlds have been quite good so far
@pessimisticprofessorfarnsw3241 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I love it. Jack Quaid always gives his all. The modern live action shows are undoubtably shit but this is a really fun show looking at Star Trek from a different view never before seen.
@moonraven61454 жыл бұрын
Remember when liking Star Trek used to brand you a nerd who likes the "boring science show?".. I kind of miss those days tbh.
@yeahwhatever55603 жыл бұрын
@mike love Its annoying.
@KalEl78023 жыл бұрын
Star Trek uses a lot of pseudo science for their shows.
@hamarbiljungskile89533 жыл бұрын
@@KalEl7802 How does your comment contribute to this thread?
@moonraven61453 жыл бұрын
@@KalEl7802 Yeah I know, just meant to the average person who never really watched it, they thought it was nerdy.
@Saddler19443 жыл бұрын
I remember when Star Wars & Star Trek fans would go to war with bottles and chains over the love of each IP. Now both camps are in ruin after a Disney/Kathleen & CBS/Kurtzman killed all will in both camps to fight. They just huddle together in the trenches waiting for the sweet release of death.
@thelonerider96933 жыл бұрын
Star trek was once best described as 'the thinking mans adventure' but there is no place for such a thing in a world where people are taught not to think...
@douglasrowland37223 жыл бұрын
The new iterations of that puke they call Star Trek are humus, made for the Labotamots of the planet Labotomy. Rather than giving us ''the Thinking Mans Adventure''....they've spewed out pablum for the ''Absent Of Mind"....!!!
@nathanielgarza91983 жыл бұрын
Thought crime does not entitle death
@douglasrowland37223 жыл бұрын
@@nathanielgarza9198 Unless you can THINK SOMEONE TO DEATH ..............
@nathanielgarza91983 жыл бұрын
Mesmerizing powers activate
@douglasrowland37223 жыл бұрын
@@lebanese3000 Well...in that case....I apologize to ''humus''. I meant to be clear in my assertion that those ''things'' are on the level of FECES !
@Matty2728 ай бұрын
“Smart strong diverse woman”. The show clearly presents Mariner and Freeman as massive screwups. So yeah, drinker seems salty that they are “diverse women”.
@Oetam85667 ай бұрын
I'd say they present Mariner as a girl boss... but we learn she's more complicated than that. She has self destructive tendencies, she's too brash, and struggles with authority. She's spent her career getting promoted, demoted, and transferred. And the only reason she's still in Star Fleet is because she's Star Fleet royalty, but this is her last chance now that she's serving under her mom. It results in a character that's strong and capable but has a lot to learn.
@Wonderfowl6 ай бұрын
Drinker only saw the trailer at the time if making this video. If we could, we should try to get him to go back and give this a go now that's its got a few seasons. A "Drinker Revisits" series or something.
@johnferguson48692 жыл бұрын
I loved Lower Decks. It felt like a reward for having watched every previous episode of Trek rather than Picard punishing me for being a Trek fan.
@Dowlphin11 ай бұрын
I (kinda) like Picard, but I couldn't endure LD.
@baybarsedturner23 жыл бұрын
Aimed at kids? Compare this to Star Trek: the animated series. That was aimed at kids too but took them seriously, often with stories that rivaled the original series.
@deathstrike3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!! I absolutely love ST TAS. They pulled off showing real aliens and a truly serious and decently written premise and plot. I strongly encourage anyone who wants a real taste of Star Trek to watch TAS. Now that is how you have an animated Star Trek, not this garbage which would have been better with Cartman as captain, and Kenny as the expendable security guard. You bastards!!!!!
@SheldonAdama173 жыл бұрын
“Yesteryear” is a classic.
@ProjectFlashlight6123 жыл бұрын
TAS was described in a 1973 critical review as being "a Mercedes among rusty Skodas" in the Saturday morning cartoon lineup. This despite animation so poor it was basically a series of stills.
@commandercaptain46643 жыл бұрын
The Animated Series is one of my first memories of infancy. That's how indelible it is to me.
@commandercaptain46643 жыл бұрын
@@ProjectFlashlight612 Compared to the slideshow that was Hammerman, or the anti-animation that was 12 oz Mouse, Star Trek Animated is frikkin Akira.
@Gomezli164 жыл бұрын
Those TNG clips just reinforce how fucking timeless that era’s aesthetic was. Sets, costumes and ships still look great to this day.
@RoodeMenon4 жыл бұрын
And in gorgeous HD 1080p. Damn! Makin it so.
@Hanzer-ns5bh4 жыл бұрын
It's almost as if effort shows and can elevate something beyond its base purpose.
@Revkor4 жыл бұрын
hence why Orville rocks, it took that idea
@Gomezli164 жыл бұрын
Revkor yep. Just do a new Star Trek with that look (with a higher budget) and you got urself a winner
@karazor-el60854 жыл бұрын
Even though the early episodes were occasionally hit-or-miss, any good series tends to need a little time to find its focus. (Even Spock in TOS was more human the first few episodes.) But TNG improved, found its winning formula and did not deviate from it, and that is why it is the epic series it is. And then PICARD came along and squandered the goodwill. Captain Picard, you deserved better than what you got.
@Chaostheory19802 жыл бұрын
Despite hating Picard and Discovery after watching I found lower decks had some interesting ideas and was written with some love and nods to the good trek that came way before. I had reservations about it but then watched it for myself and thought it was pretty good. Interestingly the trailer makes it seem 100 times worse than it actually was.
@themushroom_dude Жыл бұрын
It's a good show and you can see that the writers really love Star Trek
@sphere5282 Жыл бұрын
I'm sure you can do better, right? lmao
@gemmamoon5998 Жыл бұрын
It’s actually a pretty great show after the first few episodes. It actually has really mature moments and character growth and is really respectful of the Federation and its mission, while still joking about the lack of agency the characters have. The first episode of season 3 demonstrates its message really well!
@CephaloG0D2 жыл бұрын
I actually like this show. It's actually trying to be Trek and makes regular jabs at new Trek.
@Zexx42 жыл бұрын
Same
@LazzaRuss2 жыл бұрын
Same. Once you get past the first couple of episodes it's pretty good and gets better as it goes along. Much closer to the 90's trek than the other modern treks.
@allthenewsordeath57722 жыл бұрын
@@LazzaRuss Agree, and towards the end of season two the show really hit a good stride
@bkr_vids2 жыл бұрын
Same. The first episode lies to you, when you get passed the first few there’s a lot of fun to be had 👍
@spunkinator50002 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@eddielombardo4 жыл бұрын
Star Wars: We're going to alienate our loyal fanbase in the worst way possible! Star Trek: Hold my beer.
@joelbaker93664 жыл бұрын
I think you mean Romulan ale.
@jimtaylor2944 жыл бұрын
...or Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster..
@vonfaustien39574 жыл бұрын
@@jimtaylor294 don't give them ideas or they might reboot hitchhikers guide next
@jimtaylor2944 жыл бұрын
@@vonfaustien3957 True. I had to mention the legendary mind pummeling drink though :D .
@Nine-Signs4 жыл бұрын
Dont worry, someone will hand JJ Blade runner in due course and then the destruction of my childhood will be complete.,
@diegomarteen3 жыл бұрын
"people used to watch star trek because it was smart, toughtful and engaging" yep, correct. And that's exactly what's missing from all the latest trek incarnation
@chukwudiilozue91712 жыл бұрын
Mr. Rogers realized decades ago that when talking to kids, you should take them seriously. Lower Decks did not.
@MeakisTV2 жыл бұрын
Everything in the latests versions end in combat, always combat. And if they TRY some personal or crew issues, it's so bland and easy solutions ... Like no philosophical stuff, no reflections on real life dynamics with issues ( doesn't happen every episode but previous versions had a way of making fitting episodes about it )
@Jebu9112 жыл бұрын
Im pretty sure i always hated all of the action heavy episodes. All the episodes that were closer to thrillers were better.
@tusk702 жыл бұрын
So true, greetings from Germany! I miss true Star Trek, too!
@JadeRunner2 жыл бұрын
I have to say, the first 2 seasons of TNG are atrocious.
@gavinmartin41092 жыл бұрын
After watching the first season I have to say it is the best trek show on right now!!
@maddlarkin2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, my Mrs tried to tell me this for a year b4 I caved and watched it and yeah it is, unlike everything else it seems like it was made with a genuine love for the franchise... I can only assume as a cartoon it was dismissed as not worth while by the studio and it's creators were more or less left alone to produce something actually Star Trek
@jimbophoenix2 жыл бұрын
Granted that’s a low bar, but I like this show a lot
@SciHeartJourney Жыл бұрын
Yeah, you would. 🙄
@universpro77418 ай бұрын
Best show in general
@nebulous66604 ай бұрын
@@universpro7741 If you're 13 & easily impressed
@maybetoby10 ай бұрын
I actually do enjoy Strange New Worlds. And Lower Decks cracks me up. Maybe I'm in the wrong on that one, but i love the overall premise. I do think it's better than Family Guy, I hate that show. But you were pretty spot on with those cast predictions.
@PossumReviews4 жыл бұрын
They could just make it a series of Robot Chicken parody sketches and have a better show.
@-Zakhiel-4 жыл бұрын
Hey sexy garbage boy.
@natejennings58844 жыл бұрын
like a growing number of people, I rarely go to the movies (years apart) and I don't subscribe to these horse shit streaming services. I often find out how bad they are through guys like Critical Drinker. And I really think the content creators ripping on this shit is giving me much more entertainment...for free.
@tomkerruish29824 жыл бұрын
Hey, could you two do a collab? Pretty please?
@kylehyde215CA4 жыл бұрын
Did you run out of Pabst? I hear that stuff has metal shavings in it.
@sophiam20954 жыл бұрын
Dude that worked for Star Wars. Seth McFarlane needs to be the emperor if Ian McDiarmid falls ill or worse. Seth gets the campy awesomeness of Ian's Palply, and that shows more respect for the title character than Star TP ever did
@hopelessclown4 жыл бұрын
I remember when I was a kid, I used to watch Batman: TAS and Star Trek TNG back to back every weekday. As a nine year old I had an abundance of things presented to me in fiction that challenged me to think about the world in different ways. It's sad that kids nowadays have practically nothing to watch that actually takes shit seriously, it's like all of media is trying to teach them that nothing is worth thinking about, it's all about hyperactive gags and stimulating emotions in shallow, meaningless ways.
@p.bamygdala21394 жыл бұрын
I suspect that the content is a reflection of the creators and those who sign the paycheck. In both instances.
@the81kid4 жыл бұрын
It's amazing to me just how nihilistic and narcissistic some TV shows are, all while virtue signaling at every opportunity.
@cliffordterrell9574 жыл бұрын
I totally agree take the CW heroes for example. There's no logic or learning just over the top emotional dribble. That has finally caught up them. Anyway Star Trek is definitely dead and I won't worry about strange new worlds until kurtzman is out because no one base on the numbers anybody going to finance it
@theniceguy78244 жыл бұрын
@@cliffordterrell957 supernatural is a great example of your comment. Seasons 1-5 were gold, then the preaching came, the wokeness, the endless bickering between Sam and Dean that was the same three arguments all the way to season 15. It blows my mind how trash the CW has become
@the81kid4 жыл бұрын
@Optimus Prime I'm not sure what's upbeat about LD. The trailer is a series of unfunny jokes. I know a lot of 8 year olds (I happen to be a teacher) who are more mature than the so-called characters in LD.
@Dowlphin7 ай бұрын
When you mentioned a guy managing many projects, this made me realize that we are probably observing the new generation of people severely scarred with mental issues running the show. I encountered people who would go full quanity-over-quality, running many projects, trying to delegate them to others, moving on, never able to stick with one thing, but always wanting more and new. Now imagine if they cannot act differently and it explains a lot about the bumbling cluelessness we see. We worked long and hard to utterly ruin our kids, and now they're grown up.
@Bvenged2 жыл бұрын
I feel you were quick to judge Star Trek Lower Decks. I'd love to know if a year on, it is any good? The main character definitely doesn't seem like a Mary Sue and all of the cast are equally flawed, and their actions fuel the plot most of the time. I've seen clips and from season 2 at least, and it seems pretty good. A light hearted take on Star Trek with respectable storylines to the lore, actually believable interactions between characters, and waaaaay more entertaining than anything else Star Trek has to suffer. I'd be tempted to watch the whole thing. The trailer definitely doesn't seem to line up with raw clips of the show, at least as far as I can see?
@LimblessAnt2 жыл бұрын
I've already watched the seasons currently out for it and admittedly I didn't grow up watching star trek but I really enjoy it and it makes me want to watch other star trek things, I don't see any obvious Mary sues, they all have flaws which are worked on throughout the series with humor mixed in. I would recommend watching it, personally, if you haven't already
@neonsponge374 жыл бұрын
To quote a radio advert in GTA Vice City: "We tell you what's good, then play it 'til you like it!"
@kavinskysmith40944 жыл бұрын
Yeah but Vice City was good so no one cared lol hell I literally just went back to it to cruse around and relax the other day, and also go the Neros77 channel too FYI lol GTA 5's Radio Chatter, DJ's, Bad Traffic, Assonine pedestrians, and terrible characters that no one likes (save for Trevor) however can go straight to hell lol
@myeffulgenthairyballssay93584 жыл бұрын
One of the finest games ever made. Not in small part due to the "radio". (Though, the first helipcopter ownership is worth an honorable mention)
@kavinskysmith40944 жыл бұрын
@@myeffulgenthairyballssay9358 dont tell that to the people who are STILL stuck on the RC helicopter mission to this day though lol
@myeffulgenthairyballssay93583 жыл бұрын
@@kavinskysmith4094 They might well be... I just remember having to battle in what appeared to be Scarface's old house and upon completion, the copter was on the roof and flying that thing made me feel rich. A feat no game before or since replacates that first buzz flying around in my "made it" chopper. lol.
@AnonYMouse-ky4sg3 жыл бұрын
My Effulgent Hairy Balls say That’s just because you were young and never flew a helicopter in a game before. For me it was San Andreas’ jet pack from the desert airport.
@natpalazzo88334 жыл бұрын
The problem I'm seeing with current entertainment is that they're hiring people who think it's cool to crap on the past. It's a niche, hipster, SJW thing. They live in a bubble and have developed a cult of themselves, believing themselves to be cool and funny.
@scifiwriter983 жыл бұрын
Seth meyers effect
@sherlockinsomniac3 жыл бұрын
Thats what my grandad used to say about me for wearing baggy jeans and listening to metal.
@ovidiudiumea40123 жыл бұрын
Yep SJW, woke culture
@generalmartok39903 жыл бұрын
You mean like these guys? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/orydoLx-3KzOYX0.html
@claypage10893 жыл бұрын
@@sherlockinsomniac Metalheads wanted to do their own thing, not tell everyone else how to be and what to say and not say otherwise we will go into conniptions.
@dionysus68922 жыл бұрын
I remember for about a year when I was very young, around 7-8. I’d wake up early with my parents and after the news one of our local stations played Star Trek TOS for about an hour. We’d watch an episode or two every weekday morning, mom and dad had coffee and I ate cereal. It was, nice. I loved Kirk, Spock, Scotty, McCoy. The adventures were a great way to start the day. I’d find myself just thinking on what the episode that morning was talking about when I was bored in school. I love TOS, and the whole universe Roddenberry started. This isn’t my Star Trek, this is no one’s Star Trek. This is the Star Trek that makes fans think “geez… maybe I’ll give Voyager another shot”
@svenschwingel86322 жыл бұрын
Ironically, all the decent and interesting characters from STD were removed. Mirror Lorca, the Empress and Chris Pike. And all of the annoying ones were kept around. Seems like the execs do have a plan, after all.
@Off-Brand_Devin4 жыл бұрын
Well, CBS has achieved one thing with this trailer: I'm going to try out The Orville.
@landscapedetective40644 жыл бұрын
Well worth it. Good storytelling, great characters and a decent dose of tongue-in-cheek humour.
@sjevans88074 жыл бұрын
Orville is the fucking shit!
@kayokay4704 жыл бұрын
@JOHN JOHN it's honestly not terrible. I enjoyed most of season 1, there's a few really fucking stupid things but it's decent for the most part. More good than bad, at least in the first season, I didn't watch farther than that.
@S1eeperServ1ce4 жыл бұрын
Final Space is worth a punt as well. It is animated but beautiful. Decent script.
@eldritchedward4 жыл бұрын
Orville is more Star Trek than Nu-Trek.
@arcadealchemist4 жыл бұрын
SWEARING IN STAR TREK IS LOWERING THE QUALITY AND IQ LEVEL
@alidaraie4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, excessive swearing is so off putting, it feels like it was written by a 13 y/o trying to be edgy.
@arcadealchemist4 жыл бұрын
@@alidaraie well it was, because most the humans working these jobs don't have kids so aren't considered adults. you know it's actually appalling how the job market favors independent yuppy types to family guys
@archstanton90734 жыл бұрын
The constant affirmations of Tilly are the worst part of the show.
@RoodeMenon4 жыл бұрын
How could the writers forget that there is no money, poverty and swearing in Star Trek's future?
@Unethical.Dodgson4 жыл бұрын
I don't mind swearing as long as the swears aren't just one-word 21st century slang. If the expletives and put downs actually were new words and actual colourful language then it would mean a lot more.
@tankhead2645 Жыл бұрын
It's funny, because the term "Mary sue" came from a star trek parody fanfic
@dantetre2 жыл бұрын
2:27 from 2022 they did the opposite with ST:SNW and made an excellent first season. Also ST:Lower Decks and ST:Prodigy is pretty good!
@leonelleyva87853 жыл бұрын
CBS: People don't care about character development and interesting ideas and stories. Just copy and paste Rick and Morty and make it worse somehow. Writers: Whatever gets my next paycheck
@douglasrowland37223 жыл бұрын
They'd get more $$$$,,,IF THEY DID IT ''RIGHT''...!!
@jimmyneutron56793 жыл бұрын
eh rick and morty actually has some character development funnily enough
@silverletter45513 жыл бұрын
Screenwriters aren't in charge so I blame the producers.
@derekhofstetler39983 жыл бұрын
I have not watched single thing after 'The Next Generation' and I don't mean to.
@epicghandi61413 жыл бұрын
@Roman von Ungern Sternberg Choo choo, her comes the hatetrain next station: Whatever is popular to hate on right now.
@Maddog30604 жыл бұрын
It really looks like Star Trek made by people who've never heard of Star Trek before and were told what it is by someone who hates Star Trek.
@jamiebraswell55204 жыл бұрын
That applies to all things Star Trek ever since 2009.
@Maddog30604 жыл бұрын
@@jamiebraswell5520 True. But it bears repeating as often as possible to remind people of the travesty.
@Lancor844 жыл бұрын
Sorry to break it to you but the writers of this show know more about trek than you. They have so many Easter eggs hidden, like exact conversion of stardates. But I guess crying about a silly kids show is now something adult, self proclaimed, fans do.
@markking0024 жыл бұрын
@@Lancor84 use of a stardate conversion calculator readily available to anyone with access to a web browser does not make one a fan
@Maddog30604 жыл бұрын
@@Lancor84 LOL. Buddy, I saw the trailer, they don't know jack about Star Trek. So someone fed them a few lines to make "easter eggs"? They have exact stardates? So what? Technical precision in quoting someone else's work or a fictional (and meaningless, given what the original creators said) doesn't compensate for half-assed, incompetent writing and an utter lack of understanding of anything that makes Star Trek-the real one-enjoyable and entertaining. Lower Drecks is basically what you get when a C-level university student is told to take a creative writing class and writes fanfic for homework. Sure, it's got all the technical aspects and data points right; all the stuff you can look up on the Internet. But its characters, characterization, and plot all scream "rank amateur" at best, and "outright hack" at worst. I don't know whether you're a butthurt fanboy of Jar-Jar Trek or just a CBS shill paid to try and change the narrative, but either way, you're pathetic. I've been watching Star Trek since I was a kid: i didn't need a shitty, piss-poor retard's version of Trek like this Lower Drecks garbage. I was watching and enjoying the shows back when I was 8. I know Trek. You-and the writers of this abortion-clearly do NOT. Go read some books, kid. And none of that post-modernist deconstruction shit, read some of the good stuff that built the stories in the first place. Maybe then you'll appreciate good writing. ...Or maybe not. Either way, your opinion is as worthless as that liberal arts degree you're aiming for.
@patpowers92102 жыл бұрын
Awww, the Drinker missed on this one. Lower Decks is hilarious fun. And you missed it. Sad.
@KE-yj4ip11 ай бұрын
Well it's been 2 years and this has been a real shit take. Maybe you should review it again.
@skyserf4 жыл бұрын
It’s like Kathleen Kennedy had a baby with Futurama and Star Trek Discovery.
@KorriTimigan4 жыл бұрын
That's not fair, the worst Futurama got was "slightly less than stellar". Dosen't deserve to be lumped in with this tripe.
@fenixchief74 жыл бұрын
@@KorriTimigan the original run was fantastic. Its return was pretty trash.
@skyserf4 жыл бұрын
KorriTimigan It’s not a slight at Futurama. If one was to have the worlds best steak but you had to top it with vomit and human excrement it’s not likely you would remember the steak. Futurama can only do so much.
@Michel-xb3rl3 жыл бұрын
"When one has been angry for a very long time, one gets used to it. And it becomes comfortable, like… like old leather. And finally it becomes so familiar that one can't ever remember feeling any other way." - Picard, 'The Wounded'
@tofferooni49723 жыл бұрын
@@Reminiscent1990 "Not every quote people say are deep and meaningful, or even true." -Sadie Butler Truemann
@mattcritchley56703 жыл бұрын
@@Reminiscent1990 Sometimes it's also best to ask people or just walk away from discussions or statements you don't understand or haven't matured enough to appreciate, rather than belittle them, so that everyone will hopefully not notice your shallow and immature nature.
@drb40743 жыл бұрын
@@mattcritchley5670 When people don't understand things, it's a base human instinct to attack it. That's what we see with the growing legions of dumbasses across the country here in America.
@mkultra24563 жыл бұрын
@@mattcritchley5670 Looks like SadButTrue killed himself - his comments are nowhere to be found.
@johnbockelie38993 жыл бұрын
Picard, my adventures outside of the old folks home.
@atomics_weep76552 жыл бұрын
The slowed down leeloo laugh is one of my favourite things ever😂
@Hewylewis Жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts now that this show has gotten a lot better?
@nikoc8968 Жыл бұрын
it hasnt, the audience has simply changed. most real Trek Fans never even watched the show at all, and many of the ones who did watch it checked out during season 1(when it was at less than 33% audience score). now its just a bunch of normie Paramount+ subs and superfans desperate for _anything_ Star Trek related.
@Hewylewis Жыл бұрын
@@nikoc8968 Wow... Troll.
@rochekalifa2074 Жыл бұрын
@@nikoc8968 lmao you are a weirdo XD funny man
@francescosaporiti143111 ай бұрын
Fantastic, LD may be more a parody but it done a lot more to remain in the lore than Discovery, "Picard" and SNW even tried to do, Beckett is everything that Burnham is not, funny, relatable and intriguing at times as character and Boimler, Tendi and Rutherford character growth is something that we have not seen much lately in a Star Trek Series...my only critic is about the character of Jennifer Sh'reyan, Mariner Andorian "babe" in Season 3, I mean I actually like the character and to me it would have helped to speak more about Andorian culture, but honestely her character has been used very badly, with little character development, so I will not hold a grudge on anyone to erasing the character, I do however hope they use a good escape route like Jennifer been in fact an Orion Sydicate operator under disguise or been originally in liege with Admiral Buenoamigo...thus as I said it's quite a pity, given that in Star Trek Lore Andorian have actually four sexes(two male and two females, apparently in order to allow multiple offspring births with little "energy waste" as possible in shorter time, which would make sense if your species is originally from an Ice Planet, where living condiction are harsh at best), they could usually Jennifer character as adult comedy relief as was used the character of Bortus in THe Orville, like...... Mariner: Jen, sorry if I ask, but....well might I ask you a personal question? Jennifer: Of course, shoot it Mariner: Alright...you recall our last night in my bed(Mariner face turn a little red)...well I did notice that you have a sort of.....third "antenna" between your- Jennifer: Ah I see...(Jennifer lay closer to Mariner whispering into Mariner's ear) ..that isn't my antenna..did you want to try it? Mariner:.......I suddenly realize the meaning of Quark's joke about Andorian female Jennifer: Quark? The Owner of of Quark's bar Franchise..you know him? Mariner: Of course, I know him, I was briefly assign to Ds9 ..I think it was around the time when Wolf became commander of the Station, I even had quite a Bath'leth fight with a couple of Klingon during- Jennifer: Interesting, about we go inside that cabin and speak more on the subject... Mariner: ehm Jen, I am quite sure that cabin belong to someone else Jennifer(whispering): it will be more exciting..... Mariner: Alright I see the all "female Andorian are more promisculate of males" but...right now- Jennifer: Yes? Boimler: Hey girls, sorry if I bust in-....Sorry I was interrupting something? Mariner. NO!..I mean, if you have someting important to tell, you had to interrupt us! Let me help you! Boimler: Well, thanks Mariner but actually it is just a simple task, I was just- Mariner: Please! How could I left you alone, let me accompany you to the mess hall! Boimler: But actually I was- Mariner: I'll see you later, Jen, sorry duty call(Mariner walk away draggin Boimler) Jennifer: Do not worry...(lower tone) coward Mariner: Boimler.....you do not know but I think you just save me from a very 'red' situation,...consider that I owe you a solid Boimler: how about you stop dragging me and we call it even? Mariner: No can do...at least allow me to reach the next corner first!
@nealsterling81513 жыл бұрын
"It's depressing to see beloved Francises go down in flames..." - A wise man.
@chosentonessournotes3 жыл бұрын
“How does it feel to watch all your favorite franchises die right in front of you...” - Rich Evans
@douglasrowland37223 жыл бұрын
''The 'Franchise"...is now DEAD !!!! -A sad man.........
@moodylittlebitch20233 жыл бұрын
More like a swimming pool full of rancid shit.
@SalusFuturistics3 жыл бұрын
tbh I dont really know any Francis personally
@Passonator113 жыл бұрын
@@chosentonessournotes feels great!
@khatdubell3 жыл бұрын
"Animation quality of southpark " It wishes.
@SangerZonvolt3 жыл бұрын
I mean yeah. By comparing it to south park, family guy and Rick and Morty he actually made me wanna watch at least the first episode as I did enjoy those 3 series and am not a rabid Star Trek fan, so I can enjoy a non-canon spinoff for what it is.
@SangerZonvolt3 жыл бұрын
@@johnallen3033 To be honest the series is fine if you dont load it with expectations of what it should be and enjoy it as a non canon comedy spinoff. I watched the three episodes that are out and pretty much none of the stuff said in this video is accurate as far as the characters go. It's no masterpiece, bit it is ok for a bit of mild entertainment when you just want to relax.
@luigiwiiUU3 жыл бұрын
@@SangerZonvolt may as well watch something else then, I doubt anyone is this bored
@SangerZonvolt3 жыл бұрын
@@luigiwiiUU Why would I watch something else when I enjoy this one though?
@luigiwiiUU3 жыл бұрын
@@SangerZonvolt oof
@seanwiddowson85122 жыл бұрын
got this one wrong in my opinion. its pretty funny and the characters are pretty funny. think the big issue is that this is the best trek on atm. i agree that we need some good trek but dont think ld is bad
@devmag522 жыл бұрын
It just isn’t Star Trek. Good lord, look at what they just did (another blatant R&M hack job) with the blatant adult content. Like Naked Now without taste. So “edgy”. Ugh
@yoongahn5964 Жыл бұрын
Watch the show and give us an update!!
@doublep19804 жыл бұрын
Star Trek fans: "We want a new ST show,that goes back to the roots and respects Gene Roddenberry´s vision of intelligent Sci-Fi." CBS: "Hey,Rick & Morty is huge atm. Let´s make a shitty knockoff,of that animated show. That´s how we´re gonna get the ST fans back." It´s like these people have some sort of perverted bet going on,with K.Kennedy, which can ruin their respective franchises in more horrible ways or something, WTF?!
@whiterabbit754 жыл бұрын
Almost like they're listening to the fans' conversation through a door. A _vault_ door.
@eldritchedward4 жыл бұрын
@@whiterabbit75 ...are you saying this is all a Vault-Tec experiment? ...it would make a kind of sense.
@ErichZornerzfun4 жыл бұрын
@@eldritchedward "Vault-2020's goal was to expose the vault dwellers to progressively worse spin-offs of beloved franchises to study how fanbases divide and if they will gradually come to accept the horrible content."
@infinitedm53964 жыл бұрын
It's almost like they are doing that with Star Trek: Strange New Worlds, and that this is something entirely different. But yeah. I guess we can shit on things?
@Francois4244 жыл бұрын
So much for : "You asked, we listened" You know, if you put your cellphone down for more than 15 sec and actually take the time for a nice bothway conversation, maybe I'll feel listened too. This relationship between CBS/Startrek Fans is on the verge of Divorce. Heck we're already cheating them with "The Orville".
@B463L3 жыл бұрын
"Let's capture Rick and Morty's audience with Star Trek's marketing."
@MetaGiga3 жыл бұрын
I watch Rick and Morty occasionally and even I wouldn’t touch this pile of shit with a ten foot pole
@MrDEMarq3 жыл бұрын
It won't work, we're smarter than that.. Plus the Rick & Morty crew seem to be sabotaging their own show since their tired or bored of it now..
@planescaped3 жыл бұрын
I mean, the idea of a Star Trek cartoon isn't a bad one... it's just that this is not the type of cartoon it should have been. It is utterly derivative, cynical, and still plagued by the stupid ass problems the live shows have. Namely in it being set in the utterly botched kelvin timeline. Just go back to the real trek timeline, throw this all away and start over with the trek that is actually good. >__>
@frederickdietz31483 жыл бұрын
@carlangas world let is just remember the animated series as the true animated series.
@radagast72003 жыл бұрын
I think they were more trying to reclaim the audience The Orville won over.
@truebaptistfilms Жыл бұрын
I’m a huge fan of the Drinker, and I’ve always been a huge fan of Star Trek. I haven’t watched any of the newer stuff because the Drinker has repeatedly said how bad it is. Then T-Mobile gave us a year free of Paramount+, and I decided to dive in. Uh, I don’t know how the Drinker got it all so wrong! All of the new Star Trek stuff - including Lower Decks - is fantastic! Yes, there were two gay dudes in Discovery (thankfully less than that now), but the story is fabulous! If you try liking the new stuff, you may find that it’s a dang fun ride. I sure have!
@benwetzel8449 Жыл бұрын
Why is gay guys a problem?
@truebaptistfilms Жыл бұрын
@@benwetzel8449 Because God says that such a thing is forbidden (Leviticus 18:22, and many others). This means - among other things - that such behavior is damaging to the individual as well as the society. Therefore, those who encourage the normalcy of such things are actually not encouraging ‘love’, but rather fruitlessness and unrighteousness, and are not warning people away from impending judgment. In other words, depicting such things as normal is in reality hateful toward human beings.
@benwetzel8449 Жыл бұрын
@@truebaptistfilms sorry to tell you this, mariner dates a woman in lower decks. And I feel that any good Star Trek fan should know that the future of Star Trek does not concern itself with religious beliefs.
@truebaptistfilms Жыл бұрын
@@benwetzel8449 My point was never to discuss what is and is not a part of the Star Trek universe, but rather what is and is not good for an audience. I know that Star Trek has lots of fantastical elements that require suspension of disbelief - intelligent life other than humans, for example. Since the perfect sci-fi show has not been created, though, we always have to deal with some kind of imperfection. Things that have the potential to hurt audiences are a little worse, though.
@benwetzel8449 Жыл бұрын
@@truebaptistfilms well, I sure as hell ain’t hurt by the presence of some gay people. If the existence of gay people is all that stands between society and oblivion, then society should have never formed at all
@thegardenofeatin59652 жыл бұрын
Back in my binging TNG days, I did think that a show about junior officers could have been interesting. TNG is straight-up Roddenberry utopia. The senior officers of the Enterprise D are paragons of humanity, they're disciplined, wise and virtuous. Each is hyper-competent at their own discipline and excellent in another; Picard for example is a ship's captain, a tactician and diplomat, who gives keynote speeches about archaeology and is an avid mountain climber. They all give classical music recitals and Shakespeare plays in their spare time. They're *already* amazing people, which means they have very limited room to grow, especially Picard. A show that focuses on a group of ensigns could have a central theme of personal growth. A group of fundamentally good people with human (or alien) flaws which through trial, error, consequence and triumph they learn to overcome. I don't think that could get produced today though; TV is too dumb.
@starmnsixty12099 ай бұрын
👍👍👍
@miowacity8 ай бұрын
Gene kinda lost out after he insisted on the first movie the Voyage Home. They shoed him away after that and he wasn't involved any more.
@JHa-se7or8 ай бұрын
What you're asking for in this comment is what the show is all about. I recommend watching it.
@tcsnowdream99758 ай бұрын
Watch the show. It’s exactly what you asked for. Just remember - they’re new officers and 20-somethings. They got that 20-something energy and are total stans for Star Trek lore with incredible passion for what they do. The SNW crossover also mocks how loud and fast talking the kids are lol.
@thebumblerman20854 жыл бұрын
I was genuinely shocked when he said "leave me alone" instead of "go away now".
@Firenutz4 жыл бұрын
That’s when you know The Drinker ran out of whiskey last night and has been drinking rum since noon instead.
@ElderSnake904 жыл бұрын
He subverted our expectations
@jamesbrown40924 жыл бұрын
But he pretty well echoed how I feel about the current Star Blech.
@WeegeeSlayer1234 жыл бұрын
I feel sorry for Star Trek fans. I feel sorry for fans of many franchises that are being driven into the ground by uncreative hacks.
@Illasera4 жыл бұрын
I feel sorry for the new generation that may consider it as the original source material.
@wolfieinu4 жыл бұрын
Meh. Just don't follow franchises and you'll be fine.
@duberdurm4 жыл бұрын
It's not so bad as long as their work doesn't exist in your mind.
@Otokichi7864 жыл бұрын
Even "uncreative hacks" turn out something interesting by accident once an ice age. They are simply incompetent. Remember "The Peter Principle"? CBS revels in it so much that this "descent into irrelevance" would make so-so TV.
@hanniffydinn60194 жыл бұрын
Do you want to know the truth and what’s really going on here? See “Science Fiction and the hidden global agenda “ by Carl James. The Star Trek Agenda lecture here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jeBmgc6b3bS7enU.html
@laurelhill35052 жыл бұрын
What is sad, is that "Lower Decks" was a great episode of ST:TNG. One of the best.
@lordmaur1802 жыл бұрын
When i was 10 years old o saw the whole stargate series, it was amazing, no toiled humor every 5 secconds, no gore, just good history telling
@James-mu3xs4 жыл бұрын
The fact that it's drawn in the now all-too-common CalArts style is reason enough to avoid it.
@saphi204 жыл бұрын
thats not calarts style, is final space style, im pretty sure they are the same ones, even the cat “model” looks like its the same but different colors.
@darrelsam4194 жыл бұрын
@@saphi20 Agreed. This isn't exactly "Calarts". It looked like they traced the artstyle of Final Space. This is more of "generic adult cartoon style that most generic adult cartoons use now because they think it's what made other adult cartoons popular".
@HydraSpectre11384 жыл бұрын
It’s not Cal-Arts style. It’s the GoAnimate style. The people who “popularised” the style didn’t study at Cal-Arts. The term was coined by John K., one of the greasiest bastards in animation who is bitter that animators are more influenced by Disney and Pixar’s style rather than his.
@ericaugust15014 жыл бұрын
@Danny Morrissey no. even that failed what it could have been. I recall the concept video Olan made for it. It was much better, darker, more dramatic, still had the goofy humour tho. Then the studio came along, and i don't blame Olan Rogers, this was his break.... but the version they released, i felt it was dumbed down, made to appeal to generic, kid friendly mass market.
@johnharker71944 жыл бұрын
This isn't calarts. Steven universe is quintessential calarts. Regardless; still unwatchable. Just like steven universe.
@tcschenks4 жыл бұрын
The original Pike wasn’t boring and unlikable. Jeffrey Hunter didn’t want to be in a TV series.
@tprime27024 жыл бұрын
True. I believe those are his words, in fact, describing the shows premier episode "the cage".
@dirus31424 жыл бұрын
He wanted to do film. Sadly the environment of Hollywood changed and he ended up doing B movies. He died do to injuries suffered from a botched special effect involving explosives. I think Star Trek could have been the brake that could have stabilized his career. I did like him as pike. I liked the 50s feel of the characters, and their interaction.
@robsprocket4 жыл бұрын
@@dirus3142 He died from a stroke after falling down some steps and hitting his head, six months after the accident on set. No evidence the two are linked. His son blamed his alcoholism.
@reichbenasutti72814 жыл бұрын
No he listened to his stupid wife thereby giving the Shat a lifetime career that continues to this day. Noice!
@moffjendob67964 жыл бұрын
No, HIS WIFE didn't want Jeffery Hunter doing TV. "My husband is a FILM STAR," were her exact words to the executives.
@AnInvisibleMan Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I can't really disagree with you more about this one, as far as your critique of 'Lower Decks' goes. I'll grant that if you only have the trailer to go off, in the context of the Melvin trilogy and the 'New Era' shows, you'd have a point. Devoid of that context though, 'Lower Decks' is genuinely a light-hearted comedic swansong to the TNG era, made by true fans, for true fans. That much was evident to me beyond doubt in that first scene; Almost everything you said about the clip from it that appeared in the trailer rang true to me. "Oh, here comes another diverse Mary Sue, ridiculing her generic SWM incompetent buffoon of a colleague." I was poised to hate it, but then- the bat'leth. She picks it up, swings around in mocking, bullying jest, swings it too close to Boimler aaaand slices his thigh straight to the bone. The characters observe this in shock, and then scream. This was not supposed to happen. (simple joke) Thing is... This was not supposed to happen. I knew it wasn't supposed to happen. It REALLY, was not supposed to happen. And I knew this, because I watched bat'leths being swung in every imaginable scenario for like 15 years, over the course of 3 series and umpteen seasons and nobody, not once, EVER managed to use one of these 'insanely sharp' weapons to slice through a single damn thing. Not once! Never! They were essentially used as blunt masses throughout the entire duration of the 3 TNG Era shows, with only the sporadic second hand reference given to their 'legendary' ability to "decapitate in a single swing". Best I ever saw was the double handed uppercut thrust, which only EVER served to stun the enemy, rather than (as you might expect from a blade honed to the width of a single atom) remove his face from his head. SO! When the two clowning ensigns picked one up and swung it around, carelessly causing it to immediately ACTUALLY DO THE THING IT WAS SUPPOSEDLY AMAZING AT DOING, FOR THE VERY FIRST TIME EVER ON SCREEN, and the characters then looked genuinely stunned by this development? Yeah, as an actual Trek fan, I got the joke. The whole joke. And that's what this show is actually about, showing in comedic fashion the reality of what would actually happen as a practical consequence of the 90's era TV PG script occurrences. What if bat'leths actually were as sharp as everyone says they are? What if the insignificant crewmembers who didn't have large private suites for quarters tried to use some of the more secluded areas of the ship to setup romantic situations to try and get laid? What actually happened to that one entire civilisation, enthralled via narcotics to their neighbours that Picard put onto a forced detox and promptly abandoned that one time? It's a good show, written by people who genuinely loved the originals. You don't have to love the humour, that's always going to be a subjective thing. But unlike the rest of the edgy/grimdark/'real' stuff being shown in the rest of modern Trek, this show actually gets what the love of the TNG, and even the TOS eras was about, and pays all due homage. I find it quite worthy of respect, and whilst I suppose it doesn't really need to be considered canon due to it's heavy humoristic bent, I was genuinely heartbroken when in Season 3 of 'Picard' they omitted to pick up the design for the USS Titan as depicted in 'Lower Decks'. Hell they even had Frakes in on the show to deliver such lines as "Give me warp, in the factor of 5,6,7,8!" (And Marina Sirtis, just to groan in response "Oooh, not the jazz...") It's made with passion, love, and true attention to detail, and any good fan cannot fail to appreciate that.
@francescosaporiti143111 ай бұрын
Best comment ever!
@zoso198010 ай бұрын
"It's made with passion, love, and true attention to detail, and any good fan cannot fail to appreciate that." Incorrect. I can still find it a show dedicated to playing on nostalgia and memberberries that also reduced Star Fleet and Star Fleet grads to unlikeable loudmouths with no professionalism or maturity. Take the ST TNG IP skin off of it and remove the memberberries, Lower Decks is just a low class Rick and Morty rip off with no real heart other than appeal to crass, infantile humor that was inappropriate in TNG era Star Fleet. I have zero appreciation for a series that;s devoid of heart, appeals to crass sensibilities and comes from a place of manipulation its audience for nostalgia while defecating on philosophical core of the IP. TNG isn't' and wasn't crass loudmouth humor. Lower Decks collectively lowered the IQ in the room by 50 points.
@francescosaporiti143110 ай бұрын
@@zoso1980 I wish to say that you are wrong, but honestely I would be the first to admit that despite the cleverless of LD(at least compare to the rest of Nu-Trek), it still remain a sub-par series in the franchise, but since they had made the crossover with SNW, i fell my personalopinion lowered further of LD since they are now basically by association linked with Disco-Burn universe, not to mention of the worst episode ever of the franchise when in SNW they even decide to make a frakking musical
@Oetam85667 ай бұрын
@zoso1980 "Take away all the jokes that work within the context of the Star Trek universe, and it's not Star Trek anymore." Duh...
@alanperry86762 жыл бұрын
This is based on a trailer only, right? The characters are not what the Drinker guesses they will be. This is the only new Star Trek that I like. The show runner is a Star Trek nerd and there are so many obscure Trek references than I have a hard time recommending it to someone who isn’t very familiar with Trek. And it has 66% audience approval on Rotten Tomatoes …
@trygveplaustrum46344 жыл бұрын
Kirk was never the womanizer the stereotype eventually made him out to be. *This* abomination is going to live up to the stereotype the audience makes it out to be.
@GwynnsWildRide4 жыл бұрын
Have you watched TOS, women are all in secondary roles then cat called (at the least) most episodes ...
@InfernosReaper4 жыл бұрын
@@GwynnsWildRide Most women are just deeply attracted to Kirk's charm... *Kirk* : "Hello." *Random Woman* : "No man has ever spoken to me with such tender beauty. Oh, kiss me, kiss me passionately, Stranger"
@samdog80874 жыл бұрын
Sure he was
@plasticshorts69724 жыл бұрын
@@InfernosReaper you are correct
@fenrisvermundr25164 жыл бұрын
@@InfernosReaper Kirk: And just like that. I like men now. Mister Sulu if you will. Sulu: Yes Captain. Kirk: Stardate: 3189.41 I will boldy be going where every man in San Francisco has gone before.
@greenflagracing70674 жыл бұрын
Star Trek: The Musical Star Trek: Cooking with Replicators Star Trek: Real Wives of the Federation Drachinifel: Episode 3,046, Federation Shuttles The Many Lives of Scotty
@ThatBillmanGuy4 жыл бұрын
I'd watch a Star Trek: Top Gear. And I'd be curious about a Family feud Cardassians vs Klingons. Ferengi host: "Name a thing hewmans like." Cardassian: "Root beer." Ferengi Host: "Show me root beer!" *DING!* Ferengi Host: "Name a thing hewmans like." Klingon: "Cowering in dishonor under their soft beds..." *X* Of course, even writing something as simple as that requires more love for Star Trek than whoever is in charge of it right now.
@agricola4 жыл бұрын
Star trek: k'lana, the Vulcan pimple popper.
@whitworth5s2484 жыл бұрын
Star Trek: Extreme Living Quarters Makeover Edition. "Oh, this decor has to go. Hel-looo, Stardate 45789.1 is calling. They want their wall pictures of nebulas back. Let's replace those with more modern pictures of galaxies instead."
@TheRadioAteMyTV4 жыл бұрын
Ok, I gotta admit, the real wives sounds pretty cool. All of Kirk and Riker's women dishing, oh yeah, count me in for that one. Why not, I have certainly seen enough DVD outtakes and interviews of them and Bond women too. THAT show could work, but this absolute garbage they are tossing out ishideouss.
@chancepaladin4 жыл бұрын
Traveling with Tribbles
@Brahlam2 жыл бұрын
After watching 20 or so of your videos every one matching my opinions I decided to give one of your books a try on the weekend, lets see how that holds up! :D
@Hideyoumonkey2 жыл бұрын
Plot twist: Lower Decks is the best Star Trek cartoon of all time
@oscarstuempfl25974 жыл бұрын
Star Trek: Lower Ratings
@Brando643 жыл бұрын
Ooh, I hadn't thought of that. I call it "Star Trek: Lower Standards", myself.
@michaeldriggers76813 жыл бұрын
If you like a less optimistic, more grim star trek, they already did that perfectly twenty five years ago. It is called Deep Space 9.
@mrcliff37093 жыл бұрын
Or Babylon 5
@TNTspaz3 жыл бұрын
Farscape is another good pick for that
@WillHayes443 жыл бұрын
Can somebody remember Andromeda?
@michaeldriggers76813 жыл бұрын
@@WillHayes44 I think most people are actively trying to forget "Andromeda".
@WillHayes443 жыл бұрын
@@michaeldriggers7681 Oh, come on...
@rastifan78632 жыл бұрын
I was wrong about this show. The pilot made me skeptic, but it is not woke, it is not full of agenda and it just got better and better. The end of season 2 was amazing. Eagerly waiting for the 3'rd one. Re watch this Drinker. It was judged way to soon. They really nailed it with the last S2 episodes.
@PapaKarloHimSelf2 жыл бұрын
Came here for this. Show is very good, not great but definitely much better than this video sets it up to be.
@glenkyle278925 күн бұрын
Critical Drinker, it's time to dredge this back up and get a follow-on review... we've got four seasons under our belt now, and while you're usually right on the money this is one of those times that I think the product evolved and matured into something remarkable. Is it TOS, TNG, DS9, or Enterprise Trek? No... but it's not supposed to be. If ever there was a show that was able to reflect on and satirize an entire genre (generally) and a beloved franchise (specifically), this has turned out to be it. It pokes massive fun at what it is and where it comes from, but it does so 100% of the time with absolute adoration and (usually) in a surprisingly thoughtful way. So I challenge you to take this one back up for a second look, either now or wait until the fifth and final season concludes. If (when?) you do, you may have changed your mind or you may still see it as 'modern audience drivel.' And it's fine either way, but I'd respectfully posit that this is one of those instances where further reflection would be rewarding and enlightening. :)
@NostraFnDamus4 жыл бұрын
I haven't been told to "go away now". Help, I think I'm stuck here forever now
@carybeweary72094 жыл бұрын
An endless cycle
@buddyfett13414 жыл бұрын
Shows like this make me think, quit my job, become a screenwriter. Just tweak every story where a strong black woman is the main character.
@asdf515014 жыл бұрын
You wouldn't even need talent. It's Hollywood. All you have to do as a screenwriter is vomit Leftist talking points.
@Zamolxes774 жыл бұрын
And have her die in different, imaginative ways, every episode. We'll call her Black Kenny.
@othertalk33134 жыл бұрын
Since this is a cartoon, I was wondering how many characters got the old "paint tool" used on them at the last minute. I'm not saying they did that... but it's obviously a big concern for media companies and studios right now. They're getting extorted by racist activists who target their sponsors, which makes them lose money, so then they take the activist advice and go and make terrible content, which makes them lose money again. But somehow it's still our fault...
@cindygreene33533 жыл бұрын
In other words, you are a racist.
@othertalk33133 жыл бұрын
@@cindygreene3353 How about you don't put it in other words? You don't seem to be very good at paraphrasing other people's opinions, so don't make it even more difficult for yourself.
@caldog6192 жыл бұрын
Wait, this is literally just “Final space”. Same art style, same personality archetypes, same sense of humour, even similar sounding voice actors
@CinemaKingTheaters Жыл бұрын
I just watched all of the three seasons. I say its a good binge watch and is re-watchable. I wonder if you will ever make a follow up to this and see if you are wrong? Depending on your taste, you will probably still not enjoy it.
@guyofminimalimportance73 жыл бұрын
Fans Looking at modern Adult Animation: "Wait, it's all Rick and Morty Knockoffs?" Investors: "Has been since 2016."
@Applecornflakes3 жыл бұрын
Under rated comment
@joegrimes92323 жыл бұрын
Rick and Morty's been slamming it's head into a doorframe trying to commit suicide. Especially the last season. Just do 20 minutes of setting Roiland up to perform a solid 20 minutes improv on his own. Animate it done. End it.
@H0LIDAY3 жыл бұрын
Investors: "always has been" *cocks gun*
@tylerleach18333 жыл бұрын
so we just gonna ignore the Harley Quinn series?
@guyofminimalimportance73 жыл бұрын
@@tylerleach1833 That's an exception. It's good, but it unfortunately doesn't change the fact that most Modern Adult animation is still shallow stuff like this.
@mikerueffer5794 жыл бұрын
the worst part about this is that the concept of a star trek show centered around the goings on of the lower decks is a good idea. You could do a lot of interesting things with the concept, show all the off screen inner workings of a starship, The perspectives of the crew about their higher up's, show how despite their low rankings the work they do are arguably the most important job's on the ship. after all a good captain is necessary for direction and leadership but without a good maintenance crew the ship a'int going nowhere. But instead of that we just got this abomination.
@hamyncheese3 жыл бұрын
Star Trek: The Next Generation, Season 7, Episode 15, Lower Decks from wikipedia: In this episode, while enduring the Enterprise's promotion evaluation process, four junior officers find themselves involved in a top-secret mission[1] and is noted for its focus on non-main characters. The episode also brings back Sito Jaxa (Shannon Fill) previously introduced in "The First Duty". This episode is noted for focusing on a group of guest characters, rather than the main cast, and for its emotional impact. It has been rated highly among the series' episodes.
@mikerueffer5793 жыл бұрын
@@hamyncheese The fact that they successfully pulled this off before. Just pisses me off even more.
@hamyncheese3 жыл бұрын
@@mikerueffer579 We watch about 5-7 episodes of TNG, DS9, and Voyager at my house on a weekly basis. It is so satisfying to watch. The new "Star Trek" is a frenetic mess that leaves me anxious and agitated.
@mikerueffer5793 жыл бұрын
@@hamyncheese It's what happens when you let overly neurotic freaks make the decisions.
@Cuthalu3 жыл бұрын
@@mikerueffer579 there's nothing wrong with being a neurotic freak, if anything it's a bonus in this context. The problems lie completely elsewhere.
@davidmcquade5889 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, i dont find it bad. And its respectful to the lore