4 am in lima. Best time to watch my favorite drinker

I think this is just another one of Q's tricks. You hear that, Q? The game is up!

Wait wait wait!!!.... lol Star trek was never smart!

@@We_Are_Borg_478 lol on it's not!... The game never stop's!

I dont want to support the channel. I just want to watch and enjoy your videos for free. - troll 2020

Yep. Every major Disney animated film from 1937 to 1963 had a different style. Sleeping Beauty's art approach looked nothing like Snow White. Now, they all seem to be the same jelly bean look to eyes and faces.

CalArts can be thanked for that

It's the Cal Arts assembly line. Fuckin' rubber hose and jellybean face. That's all they bloody teach over there.

@@blizzardregulus Honestly so many of modern writers for this tripe must all come from their own assembly line as well.

It’s an extremely cheap and lazy style. They’re trying to cut cost which is sacrificing the quality in all shows that decide to use it.

add to the list The Terminator

It’s kinda depressing but true :-/

That's kind of their playbook: Destroy the pillars of your culture and history...

They’re destroying art to take away people’s ability to think freely, it’s all part of the incoming subjugation, they don’t need us watching movies, they need us doing our jobs, making money and asking no questions, it’s a sad state of affairs really

Star wars was destroyed 20 years ago.

I think the drinks be making him to political about everything. Best he drink some water

@@jonoctopie2779 No, he is a Trek purist. LD is saddening if this is how it has to be - giving Futurama humor a Trek franchise paint. It's kinda like watching Wrath of Khan but with shaking camera and 50% lens flares on screen all the time. - It's just not a feasible mix. BTW, I like Picard (relatively much), but LD I could only endure half a season or so.

I am also very curious what he thinks now. The show is really fun and pokes fun of trek in ways that a true fan would. "Did you just say sen-soars?" The male characters aren't weak to female character look strong. The character development for them is awesome. Brad's character arc is amazing, you can't not love The Boims. We are watching him grow into trek legend material.

@@longshot5866 I think he would say the same thing, but rather that they bank more on memes and nostalgia as they made Trek into a comedy, when it was serious with occasional quest themes (TOS), existential meaning (TNG) or serious political threads (DS9). Something like "yeah you might be Trekkies, however this series is aimed at post-millennial humour, a new Trek audience with some homages, but what you're making isn't Trek because Trek isn't slapstick and it would require trying to ignore how incompetent these people are for the sake of the plot". Then probably reference The Orville as doing a better version because it's an original IP that found an audience and went with it without messing up Trek canon (to the Drinker, canon and continuity loyalty in the sense of treating it with respect is huge).

*It's made for people who are old enough to be adults but never got there.

​@@nebulous6660 [Abruptly stops eating supper with a goblet halfway to my mouth]

My guess is, had he done that, he'd be showing some kind of generosity towards this totally unfunny excuse-for-a-'cartoon'? ;_;

Yeah, I immediately caught that too. Even Captain Mary Sue got that infamous outro. Man, he must be REALLY pissed about this one!

@@ShiftyKen08 I'm pissed but I don't really like Trek. When Trek works it REALLY works, but this shit doesn't inspire any confidence in me. Frankly Robot Chicken's Night Crew was more downplayed and less desperate in it's humor and that was a frickin Robot Chicken skit.

@@sophiam2095 That is exactly what I was thinking, and that was just a skit on Robot Chicken! How sad is it that a short skit had more in-depth characterization than that whole trailer did?

"HERE! MORE TREK< YOU LIKE IT DONT YOU< YOU MUST LIKE IT< HERE EVEN MORE TREK< HONEST IT'S ALL GOOD TREK! LIKE IT! LIKE IT!" - Corporations and the capitalists who own them, via Kurtzman. "Leave me alone -.-" 90% of the fan base.

Its actually depressing.

it can`t rest in peace anymore. not after what has happened to it. it will haunt the earth vor ever.

Hi Professor Swordie

assuming your are also holding a tricorder, should you fire a phaser "around the outside" or cross arms to fire "on the inside" ? :P

If you like repeated old trek storys with more fart and dick jokes in them then sure, Orville is great.

But it isn't.

@@chadking3793 why not?

Best example of Boimler kicking ass is in the Borg test. He saves the Borg babies, beats the Queen at chess, and teaches her empathy. 100% 😂

Same, I've thoroughly enjoyed it. Between the final Picard, Strange New Worlds, and this... I almost have hope again...

Right? Drinker is being a whiner, gotta wonder if he even watched it or if he's just too sour at this point to enjoy comedy.

Someone who loves money and isn't a fucking idiot would have hired the people who genuinely love Star Trek.

Those tards don't do it for the money. They are on a crusade.

The Orville: SO much better when it was called "Galaxy Quest."

Both creatively-purposeless failures.

Made because politics. They can't have thought that this would be profitable, nobody's that stupid.

Dang!!! You're right!!! Way to 100% crap on the fans with that one!

I mean with it being so different I'm not surprised that there are going to be people who shit on it

*so stunning and brave of them*

MechanizedMan its not just different, its a random cartoon with a star trek skin

@@Firehazerd5444 ABSOLUTELY! It's ALWAYS the fault of the fans! I mean, what other possible reason could there be? They have the most talented, progressive writers that hollywood has to offer, how could it be anything except sensational, if only the fans were woke enough to appreciate it. You are wise beyond years.

except all the woke bullshit with the super girl boss who can do everything. i gave it a chance but it just became too much.

​@@TheJbrinksWho, Mariner? She only gets away with it because of nepotism.

It has found it's feet better in the later seasons, but relies heavily on member berries and cameo's to get the older crowd in, and I agree with the annoying continuation of useless/weak male leads. Also the Drinker was spot on, I would have been ~10 when I got into TNG and it captivated a younger me almost immediately, because it's genuinely good, a possible future to actually aspire to.

@@foxpants It takes a fan team to produce a truly masterful continuation of true Trek. I hope you are all already aware of *Star Trek Continues.* - Man, I love the fact there is one example to show how it can be done, to continue the lore faithfully, respectfully.

@@Dowlphin I wasn't aware but I sure will check it out now, cheers!

@@Dowlphin is that the same thing as Phase II?

@@joringedamke5597 If you mean New Voyages, I didn't really like that fan series. Continues is much better in my view, in several aspects.

Hey sexy garbage boy.

like a growing number of people, I rarely go to the movies (years apart) and I don't subscribe to these horse shit streaming services. I often find out how bad they are through guys like Critical Drinker. And I really think the content creators ripping on this shit is giving me much more entertainment...for free.

Hey, could you two do a collab? Pretty please?

Did you run out of Pabst? I hear that stuff has metal shavings in it.

Dude that worked for Star Wars. Seth McFarlane needs to be the emperor if Ian McDiarmid falls ill or worse. Seth gets the campy awesomeness of Ian's Palply, and that shows more respect for the title character than Star TP ever did

Huh, someone gets it, too bad both now covers both... in the WORST way possible

Star wars does have some good story watch Dave filoni explains the prequels

@@screwistic fuck yeah bröther

@Kryptoskillet i dont know about that one chief, and i am a star wars fan XD

@Kryptoskillet, You should have paid more attention in science class.

Agreed, my Mrs tried to tell me this for a year b4 I caved and watched it and yeah it is, unlike everything else it seems like it was made with a genuine love for the franchise... I can only assume as a cartoon it was dismissed as not worth while by the studio and it's creators were more or less left alone to produce something actually Star Trek

Granted that’s a low bar, but I like this show a lot

Yeah, you would. 🙄

Best show in general

@@universpro7741 If you're 13 & easily impressed

And in gorgeous HD 1080p. Damn! Makin it so.

It's almost as if effort shows and can elevate something beyond its base purpose.

hence why Orville rocks, it took that idea

Revkor yep. Just do a new Star Trek with that look (with a higher budget) and you got urself a winner

Even though the early episodes were occasionally hit-or-miss, any good series tends to need a little time to find its focus. (Even Spock in TOS was more human the first few episodes.) But TNG improved, found its winning formula and did not deviate from it, and that is why it is the epic series it is. And then PICARD came along and squandered the goodwill. Captain Picard, you deserved better than what you got.

I agree, he should've said that it is animation quality of a shitshow version of Final Space and Final Space is 4x much better then this crap right here, something I feel sorry for Star Trek fans because CBS doesn't give a crap about quality but only about profits from only the name brand.

At least South Park is funny and well written

I think it looks clean and generic, than South Park. Where South Park looks more artistic and unique.

grievous549 I love South Park, always have, always will...I don’t have anything to say about the animated Star Trek non sense other than I won’t be watching it...a pointless comment yes...but animation quality has almost nothing to do with a good show...a lot of South Parks best episodes occurred in the earlier seasons when the animation was in its primitive phase

More like the animation quality of Family Guy... Where the lame bug-eyed characters just stand there and stare blankly as another dumbass joke is being born.

It's a good show and you can see that the writers really love Star Trek

I'm sure you can do better, right? lmao

It’s actually a pretty great show after the first few episodes. It actually has really mature moments and character growth and is really respectful of the Federation and its mission, while still joking about the lack of agency the characters have. The first episode of season 3 demonstrates its message really well!

^ this. Somebody take Star Trek off of CBS's hands for the love of everything that is holy

Okay, that was pretty good.

Good one.

@@RobotronSage who would you even put into now? Everyone practically is ENFORCING "progressive" ideals without the ability to even write the stories and characters. Its truly disgusting to take a beloved name and just puke stuff on top of it without any care about the original source material.

Thank you for that...at least your remark has more humor and creativity that that mess the dare to put in front of us.

The Orville isn't awesome or anything spectacular but it's definitely a funny show to throw on t.v.

Josh C Exactly. It isn’t “awesome” or “spectacular” to the standards we expect from ST, but it’s closer ( *much* closer) than anything recently.

Man, i loved The Orville, some episodes are really well written and its characters have interesting arcs too.

The last two episodes of season 2 wouldn’t qualify as comedic ripoff in my book. Almost straight out of Voyager’s Year of Hell double feature.

Orville is almost a shot for shot remake of all the good episodes of the next generation. Its a literal miracle they werent sued for plagerism

Tbh, if you watch this show you can tell the writers are also fans of the old Trek. They poke fun at some of the sillier stuff and it can come off as a bit of nostalgia bait, but it seems like these references and riffs come from a sincere place of love.

@@danic_c 100% I agree

I found Orville to be missing too much of the real core, dunno. It was like a well-meaning copy job of someone who might be a fan, but not one of the smartest fans. An excellent example for fans doing great stuff with the lore is, of course, *Star Trek Continues.*

@@Dowlphin Orville is 100% it's own show, though. I just mean that a brief shadow of the *feeling* I got from the latter ST:VOY or early ST:ENT franchises is there. On the other hand, the newer proper Star Trek shows have had none of the flavour of the past. My point is simply that for a standalone, humor based show that isn't even in the same IP, the Orville felt a whole lot more like the 1990s Star Treks. It is also my opinion that the new ones have been an absolute dumpster fire. Typical of much that comes out of Hollywood these days. Lots of action sequences, shallow characters and even more shallow social commentary.

I actually avoided this show because of this review. My kids started watching, and we all love the show now. I think you're right, I believe the drinker jumped the gun on this show.

I honestly agree. Live long and prosper!

​@@nerdsubculture845 The critical drinker is a moron, he hasn't had a decent take on a show or movie ever.

I agree! It had its growing pains early on but what show hasn't? It's good Trek that doesn't shit on canon.

Okay, I'm gonna give this show another chance because the VERY OPENING SCENE is ultra cringey. To me, that's not really Star Trek. The pilot of Strange New Worlds was more of what I think Star Trek is, even though it was a bit on the nose about the "strange alien humanoid world" destroying itself with super-nukes. Lower Decks honestly felt like CBS was pitching the idea of "Hey, that show Family Guy is _really_ popular. We need our own Family Guy, but we just have the Star Trek IP. What can we do?"

Well, that's interesting. (-:

The captain needs a certain amount of confidence and wisdom, or else why are they the captain? This said, the point of a Star Trek captain is to go out and face the unknown. They can't always be right. They have to fail and recover or there's no point. Kirk and Picard failed all the time and had to recover. Pike, Janeway, and Sisko - fail, fail, fail, recover, recover, recover. This is what gives the audience the confidence that the crew needs to have in the fact that the captains are worth their pay checks. Yeah that's right, paid in money. Forget all that "there's no money in the future" nonsense. In the first season or two of STTNG, Wesley Crusher was annoyingly right about everything in every episode, to the point where you have to wonder how other starships survive without a Wesley on board. Everyone hated him about as much as Cousin Oliver from The Brady Bunch. Wesley was a Gary Stue. That's the male equivalent of a Mary Sue. Wesley wasn't right on target but he was close enough that I despised him in every scene. Nobody likes a Mary Sue, or a Gary Stue.

@@protorhinocerator142 Youre Correct

@Ruosong Gao I'm not sure how "popular" they are. Especially today when they've become so common that there's a name for it and people are aware that they exist.

@@protorhinocerator142 I thought being good at things is only one aspect of a Mary Sue, the other being their unrelenting redeeming qualities? In that case I might challenge the idea of him being one by pointing out that while Wesley was incredibly bright and talented, he was also immature, impulsive, insecure, and at times irresponsible (hm). A smart dumb kid.

IKR!!!!

And RLM

same here friend.

The Drinker as well as Mike and Rich from RLM along with Rob Myer Burnett and the Lorerunner are the only Star Trek critics I trust. RLM is the best at being funny while really going indepth on Trek while Lorerunner is the best at examinations with his ruminations but they are all great.

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Same

Same. Once you get past the first couple of episodes it's pretty good and gets better as it goes along. Much closer to the 90's trek than the other modern treks.

@@LazzaRuss Agree, and towards the end of season two the show really hit a good stride

Same. The first episode lies to you, when you get passed the first few there’s a lot of fun to be had 👍

Agreed!

That was a surprise move, for sure.

When the reviewer is so lazy, he can't even show current depictions of RT scores and relies on old screenshots from a year or two ago.

Gonna cry?

@@glyphsaiyan858 I mean 51%, 37% and 57% aren't numbers to brag about either.

He's just subverting our expectations, how are you so blind??

You listened, but WE know what's best for you !

At least Wendy knows to give a good time to those calling her number

Here I sit broken-hearted. Tried to shit but only farted. Still better writing than anything in Star Trek, Star Wars, Dr. Who etc during the last several years.

@@mattboggs6304 my point exactly. Don't forget to wash your hands. 😉

i admit when i see a dick written on the wall i feel more of a connection then watching StarTrek these days

I've already watched the seasons currently out for it and admittedly I didn't grow up watching star trek but I really enjoy it and it makes me want to watch other star trek things, I don't see any obvious Mary sues, they all have flaws which are worked on throughout the series with humor mixed in. I would recommend watching it, personally, if you haven't already

@mike love Its annoying.

Star Trek uses a lot of pseudo science for their shows.

@@KalEl7802 How does your comment contribute to this thread?

@@KalEl7802 Yeah I know, just meant to the average person who never really watched it, they thought it was nerdy.

I remember when Star Wars & Star Trek fans would go to war with bottles and chains over the love of each IP. Now both camps are in ruin after a Disney/Kathleen & CBS/Kurtzman killed all will in both camps to fight. They just huddle together in the trenches waiting for the sweet release of death.

I don't feel right unless The Drinker tells me to "go away now."

Early Drinker: "As always thank you for your time and hope you enjoyed the video." Later Drinker: "That's all I have for today....go away now." Modern Drinker: "Anyway whatever leave me alone." No better reflection of the progression of a career in modern media criticism.

Can't say I blame him. Star Trek was a great "universe", with good characters, compelling stories, and some pretty decent acting. WAS. Now, it's turned into shyte, ruined by "agendas", destruction of everything that made it great, and ignoring what the fans want, in favor of trying to...hell, I don't even know what they're trying to do. But what I do know is, the last few years have seen the destruction of every single franchise that was once considered great. Aliens, Terminator, Predator, Star Wars, Star Trek...all of them torn down, destroyed, reduced to sad, pathetic parodies of what once made them great. I'm not one for conspiracies, but I can't shake the feeling that this is all deliberate.

When I was a kid, my favorite movies were Star Wars, back to the Future, The Hunt for Red October and sister act. Some of them have a little goofiness or some jokes but generally they're pretty serious. I could never get into the really goofy slapstick stuff, at a young age it just wasn't as interesting as the high stakes gambits and consequences from more complex movies

Ye. The Lion King may have the cute characters and catchy songs for kids to enjoy, but the adults will get a surprisingly very biblical movie.

*Avatar - The Last Airbender* would be a good example of high-quality kids TV. Quite the mature themes in it, but kids can totally handle that when conveyed in the right style. Also, as a reverse example, of course, *MLPFiM,* a show made for young girls, but because the show creation was a work of love, with the fan enthusiasm factor, and made with compassion for parents watching with their kids in mind 😅, it is quite delightful to watch for adults, too, at least those not totally jaded by the grimdark side of reality.

He was raised on a healthy mixture of Soviet classics of animation and pictures by PIXAR and Dreamworks - they gave unforgettable impressions and inspiration. They knew how to joke and were not afraid to raise serious topics. Therefore, both children and adults love them. I didn’t like Disney at first sight, and I still have a wild allergic reaction to him. They seemed so... hysterical. Now I look and am disgust at what idiots the creators of this crap take us for. What’s annoying is not even the quality and primitivism, but the expectation that we will really empathize with complete scum of the level of Family Guy.

​@@Dowlphin Yes! Great example! I remember when my brother and I came across him on TV, we watched it all day, he fascinated us so much. And for God's sake don't mention MLP, I'm starting to start rainbow foaming from my ears

I'd say they present Mariner as a girl boss... but we learn she's more complicated than that. She has self destructive tendencies, she's too brash, and struggles with authority. She's spent her career getting promoted, demoted, and transferred. And the only reason she's still in Star Fleet is because she's Star Fleet royalty, but this is her last chance now that she's serving under her mom. It results in a character that's strong and capable but has a lot to learn.

Drinker only saw the trailer at the time if making this video. If we could, we should try to get him to go back and give this a go now that's its got a few seasons. A "Drinker Revisits" series or something.

I need my proper dismissal!

I think you answered your own question. "What have they done to the drinker?" This video was so depressing to make he couldn't even.

So... are we staying here or...?

he either had too little to drink, or too much.

I'm sitting here, waiting. I... I just don't know what to do now. Usually, at this point, I'd do something else. But... ...how... ...how do I go on?

The new iterations of that puke they call Star Trek are humus, made for the Labotamots of the planet Labotomy. Rather than giving us ''the Thinking Mans Adventure''....they've spewed out pablum for the ''Absent Of Mind"....!!!

Thought crime does not entitle death

@@nathanielgarza9198 Unless you can THINK SOMEONE TO DEATH ..............

Mesmerizing powers activate

@@lebanese3000 Well...in that case....I apologize to ''humus''. I meant to be clear in my assertion that those ''things'' are on the level of FECES !

Agreed.

I agree

Great characters, stories and comedy and you don't need to know anything about star trek

Such a good show! I love it!

I think you mean Romulan ale.

...or Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaster..

@@jimtaylor294 don't give them ideas or they might reboot hitchhikers guide next

@@vonfaustien3957 True. I had to mention the legendary mind pummeling drink though :D .

Dont worry, someone will hand JJ Blade runner in due course and then the destruction of my childhood will be complete.,

Who dont like star trek to market to people who dont like star trek, but who want name recognition of star trek.

Just like Star Wars and anything else you can imagine. It's just title-flaying for the "edgy counter-culturists" who have zero plan or idea of what comes after everything's been torn down. They don't care. They never will.

@@deedlessdeity218 it's people who cant create on their own, and yet they think they can do better, so they take over the existing properties to transform them into their twisted social justice vision. Same as communism, they can't create, they just want to take control of existing industries to serve them. And incidentally, most of the social justice people are commies, and tor a reason. No actual solution, just a disdain for what is here.

@@SnakeWasRight An accurate and logical analysis.

It's the same in a lot of franchises. Any of you like Dungeons & Dragons? I used to, before it was ruined by a company that is actively insulting its customer base. I'm trying to think of anything I used to love that wasn't ruined by post-post-modernist bullshit. It's a hard think.

It just isn’t Star Trek. Good lord, look at what they just did (another blatant R&M hack job) with the blatant adult content. Like Naked Now without taste. So “edgy”. Ugh

I (kinda) like Picard, but I couldn't endure LD.

Thank you!!!! I absolutely love ST TAS. They pulled off showing real aliens and a truly serious and decently written premise and plot. I strongly encourage anyone who wants a real taste of Star Trek to watch TAS. Now that is how you have an animated Star Trek, not this garbage which would have been better with Cartman as captain, and Kenny as the expendable security guard. You bastards!!!!!

“Yesteryear” is a classic.

TAS was described in a 1973 critical review as being "a Mercedes among rusty Skodas" in the Saturday morning cartoon lineup. This despite animation so poor it was basically a series of stills.

The Animated Series is one of my first memories of infancy. That's how indelible it is to me.

@@ProjectFlashlight612 Compared to the slideshow that was Hammerman, or the anti-animation that was 12 oz Mouse, Star Trek Animated is frikkin Akira.

Mr. Rogers realized decades ago that when talking to kids, you should take them seriously. Lower Decks did not.

Everything in the latests versions end in combat, always combat. And if they TRY some personal or crew issues, it's so bland and easy solutions ... Like no philosophical stuff, no reflections on real life dynamics with issues ( doesn't happen every episode but previous versions had a way of making fitting episodes about it )

Im pretty sure i always hated all of the action heavy episodes. All the episodes that were closer to thrillers were better.

So true, greetings from Germany! I miss true Star Trek, too!

I have to say, the first 2 seasons of TNG are atrocious.

That lazer-like focus on 3% of the population....

Then the audience doesnt exist lol

Lol new star trek is made for people who don't even like star trek. I don't know why they can't just make star trek for the fans. We ain't going anywhere

Awww, your white fragility is showing.

@@LePedant black votes matter

I suspect that the content is a reflection of the creators and those who sign the paycheck. In both instances.

It's amazing to me just how nihilistic and narcissistic some TV shows are, all while virtue signaling at every opportunity.

I totally agree take the CW heroes for example. There's no logic or learning just over the top emotional dribble. That has finally caught up them. Anyway Star Trek is definitely dead and I won't worry about strange new worlds until kurtzman is out because no one base on the numbers anybody going to finance it

@@cliffordterrell957 supernatural is a great example of your comment. Seasons 1-5 were gold, then the preaching came, the wokeness, the endless bickering between Sam and Dean that was the same three arguments all the way to season 15. It blows my mind how trash the CW has become

@Optimus Prime I'm not sure what's upbeat about LD. The trailer is a series of unfunny jokes. I know a lot of 8 year olds (I happen to be a teacher) who are more mature than the so-called characters in LD.

Ah but is it good on it's own merit or good because Kurtzman Trek is so abominably bad? Something to consider.

@@BeardedDanishViking On its own merit, for sure. Lower Decks could have come out alongside DS9, my favorite Trek show, and I would have loved it.

@@BeardedDanishViking If you don't know much about star trek which i don't its watchable and has moments. but thats it.

@@jackskellingtonsora Your favourite Trek show is DS9, hmmm, that speaks volumes, and lowers the validity of your opinion about Below Decks, in fact, it lowers the validity of your opinion on anything Star Trek based.

@@mickk8519 I don't know what to tell you. DS9 is the best Star Trek show. It's not my fault if you don't have taste. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Yeah but Vice City was good so no one cared lol hell I literally just went back to it to cruse around and relax the other day, and also go the Neros77 channel too FYI lol GTA 5's Radio Chatter, DJ's, Bad Traffic, Assonine pedestrians, and terrible characters that no one likes (save for Trevor) however can go straight to hell lol

One of the finest games ever made. Not in small part due to the "radio". (Though, the first helipcopter ownership is worth an honorable mention)

@@myeffulgenthairyballssay9358 dont tell that to the people who are STILL stuck on the RC helicopter mission to this day though lol

@@kavinskysmith4094 They might well be... I just remember having to battle in what appeared to be Scarface's old house and upon completion, the copter was on the roof and flying that thing made me feel rich. A feat no game before or since replacates that first buzz flying around in my "made it" chopper. lol.

My Effulgent Hairy Balls say That’s just because you were young and never flew a helicopter in a game before. For me it was San Andreas’ jet pack from the desert airport.

That's not fair, the worst Futurama got was "slightly less than stellar". Dosen't deserve to be lumped in with this tripe.

@@KorriTimigan the original run was fantastic. Its return was pretty trash.

KorriTimigan It’s not a slight at Futurama. If one was to have the worlds best steak but you had to top it with vomit and human excrement it’s not likely you would remember the steak. Futurama can only do so much.

He won't, because that won't earn him the clicks. I used to watch his reviews a while back, but realized he is just a bitter asshole that is upset that the world has passed him by.

Almost like they're listening to the fans' conversation through a door. A _vault_ door.

@@whiterabbit75 ...are you saying this is all a Vault-Tec experiment? ...it would make a kind of sense.

@@eldritchedward "Vault-2020's goal was to expose the vault dwellers to progressively worse spin-offs of beloved franchises to study how fanbases divide and if they will gradually come to accept the horrible content."

It's almost like they are doing that with Star Trek: Strange New Worlds, and that this is something entirely different. But yeah. I guess we can shit on things?

So much for : "You asked, we listened" You know, if you put your cellphone down for more than 15 sec and actually take the time for a nice bothway conversation, maybe I'll feel listened too. This relationship between CBS/Startrek Fans is on the verge of Divorce. Heck we're already cheating them with "The Orville".

Well worth it. Good storytelling, great characters and a decent dose of tongue-in-cheek humour.

Orville is the fucking shit!

@JOHN JOHN it's honestly not terrible. I enjoyed most of season 1, there's a few really fucking stupid things but it's decent for the most part. More good than bad, at least in the first season, I didn't watch farther than that.

Final Space is worth a punt as well. It is animated but beautiful. Decent script.

Orville is more Star Trek than Nu-Trek.

They'd get more $$$$,,,IF THEY DID IT ''RIGHT''...!!

eh rick and morty actually has some character development funnily enough

Screenwriters aren't in charge so I blame the producers.

I have not watched single thing after 'The Next Generation' and I don't mean to.

@Roman von Ungern Sternberg Choo choo, her comes the hatetrain next station: Whatever is popular to hate on right now.

@@Reminiscent1990 "Not every quote people say are deep and meaningful, or even true." -Sadie Butler Truemann

@@Reminiscent1990 Sometimes it's also best to ask people or just walk away from discussions or statements you don't understand or haven't matured enough to appreciate, rather than belittle them, so that everyone will hopefully not notice your shallow and immature nature.

@@mattcritchley5670 When people don't understand things, it's a base human instinct to attack it. That's what we see with the growing legions of dumbasses across the country here in America.

@@mattcritchley5670 Looks like SadButTrue killed himself - his comments are nowhere to be found.

Picard, my adventures outside of the old folks home.

it hasnt, the audience has simply changed. most real Trek Fans never even watched the show at all, and many of the ones who did watch it checked out during season 1(when it was at less than 33% audience score). now its just a bunch of normie Paramount+ subs and superfans desperate for _anything_ Star Trek related.

@@nikoc8968 Wow... Troll.

@@nikoc8968 lmao you are a weirdo XD funny man

Fantastic, LD may be more a parody but it done a lot more to remain in the lore than Discovery, "Picard" and SNW even tried to do, Beckett is everything that Burnham is not, funny, relatable and intriguing at times as character and Boimler, Tendi and Rutherford character growth is something that we have not seen much lately in a Star Trek Series...my only critic is about the character of Jennifer Sh'reyan, Mariner Andorian "babe" in Season 3, I mean I actually like the character and to me it would have helped to speak more about Andorian culture, but honestely her character has been used very badly, with little character development, so I will not hold a grudge on anyone to erasing the character, I do however hope they use a good escape route like Jennifer been in fact an Orion Sydicate operator under disguise or been originally in liege with Admiral Buenoamigo...thus as I said it's quite a pity, given that in Star Trek Lore Andorian have actually four sexes(two male and two females, apparently in order to allow multiple offspring births with little "energy waste" as possible in shorter time, which would make sense if your species is originally from an Ice Planet, where living condiction are harsh at best), they could usually Jennifer character as adult comedy relief as was used the character of Bortus in THe Orville, like...... Mariner: Jen, sorry if I ask, but....well might I ask you a personal question? Jennifer: Of course, shoot it Mariner: Alright...you recall our last night in my bed(Mariner face turn a little red)...well I did notice that you have a sort of.....third "antenna" between your- Jennifer: Ah I see...(Jennifer lay closer to Mariner whispering into Mariner's ear) ..that isn't my antenna..did you want to try it? Mariner:.......I suddenly realize the meaning of Quark's joke about Andorian female Jennifer: Quark? The Owner of of Quark's bar Franchise..you know him? Mariner: Of course, I know him, I was briefly assign to Ds9 ..I think it was around the time when Wolf became commander of the Station, I even had quite a Bath'leth fight with a couple of Klingon during- Jennifer: Interesting, about we go inside that cabin and speak more on the subject... Mariner: ehm Jen, I am quite sure that cabin belong to someone else Jennifer(whispering): it will be more exciting..... Mariner: Alright I see the all "female Andorian are more promisculate of males" but...right now- Jennifer: Yes? Boimler: Hey girls, sorry if I bust in-....Sorry I was interrupting something? Mariner. NO!..I mean, if you have someting important to tell, you had to interrupt us! Let me help you! Boimler: Well, thanks Mariner but actually it is just a simple task, I was just- Mariner: Please! How could I left you alone, let me accompany you to the mess hall! Boimler: But actually I was- Mariner: I'll see you later, Jen, sorry duty call(Mariner walk away draggin Boimler) Jennifer: Do not worry...(lower tone) coward Mariner: Boimler.....you do not know but I think you just save me from a very 'red' situation,...consider that I owe you a solid Boimler: how about you stop dragging me and we call it even? Mariner: No can do...at least allow me to reach the next corner first!

Came here for this. Show is very good, not great but definitely much better than this video sets it up to be.

Ooh, I hadn't thought of that. I call it "Star Trek: Lower Standards", myself.

Yeah, excessive swearing is so off putting, it feels like it was written by a 13 y/o trying to be edgy.

@@alidaraie well it was, because most the humans working these jobs don't have kids so aren't considered adults. you know it's actually appalling how the job market favors independent yuppy types to family guys

The constant affirmations of Tilly are the worst part of the show.

How could the writers forget that there is no money, poverty and swearing in Star Trek's future?

I don't mind swearing as long as the swears aren't just one-word 21st century slang. If the expletives and put downs actually were new words and actual colourful language then it would mean a lot more.

Seth meyers effect

Thats what my grandad used to say about me for wearing baggy jeans and listening to metal.

Yep SJW, woke culture

You mean like these guys? kzfaq.info/get/bejne/orydoLx-3KzOYX0.html

@@sherlockinsomniac Metalheads wanted to do their own thing, not tell everyone else how to be and what to say and not say otherwise we will go into conniptions.

That applies to all things Star Trek ever since 2009.

@@jamiebraswell5520 True. But it bears repeating as often as possible to remind people of the travesty.

Sorry to break it to you but the writers of this show know more about trek than you. They have so many Easter eggs hidden, like exact conversion of stardates. But I guess crying about a silly kids show is now something adult, self proclaimed, fans do.

@@Lancor84 use of a stardate conversion calculator readily available to anyone with access to a web browser does not make one a fan

@@Lancor84 LOL. Buddy, I saw the trailer, they don't know jack about Star Trek. So someone fed them a few lines to make "easter eggs"? They have exact stardates? So what? Technical precision in quoting someone else's work or a fictional (and meaningless, given what the original creators said) doesn't compensate for half-assed, incompetent writing and an utter lack of understanding of anything that makes Star Trek-the real one-enjoyable and entertaining. Lower Drecks is basically what you get when a C-level university student is told to take a creative writing class and writes fanfic for homework. Sure, it's got all the technical aspects and data points right; all the stuff you can look up on the Internet. But its characters, characterization, and plot all scream "rank amateur" at best, and "outright hack" at worst. I don't know whether you're a butthurt fanboy of Jar-Jar Trek or just a CBS shill paid to try and change the narrative, but either way, you're pathetic. I've been watching Star Trek since I was a kid: i didn't need a shitty, piss-poor retard's version of Trek like this Lower Drecks garbage. I was watching and enjoying the shows back when I was 8. I know Trek. You-and the writers of this abortion-clearly do NOT. Go read some books, kid. And none of that post-modernist deconstruction shit, read some of the good stuff that built the stories in the first place. Maybe then you'll appreciate good writing. ...Or maybe not. Either way, your opinion is as worthless as that liberal arts degree you're aiming for.

I feel sorry for the new generation that may consider it as the original source material.

Meh. Just don't follow franchises and you'll be fine.

It's not so bad as long as their work doesn't exist in your mind.

Even "uncreative hacks" turn out something interesting by accident once an ice age. They are simply incompetent. Remember "The Peter Principle"? CBS revels in it so much that this "descent into irrelevance" would make so-so TV.

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“How does it feel to watch all your favorite franchises die right in front of you...” - Rich Evans

''The 'Franchise"...is now DEAD !!!! -A sad man.........

More like a swimming pool full of rancid shit.

tbh I dont really know any Francis personally

@@chosentonessournotes feels great!

Why is gay guys a problem?

@@benwetzel8449 Because God says that such a thing is forbidden (Leviticus 18:22, and many others). This means - among other things - that such behavior is damaging to the individual as well as the society. Therefore, those who encourage the normalcy of such things are actually not encouraging ‘love’, but rather fruitlessness and unrighteousness, and are not warning people away from impending judgment. In other words, depicting such things as normal is in reality hateful toward human beings.

@@truebaptistfilms sorry to tell you this, mariner dates a woman in lower decks. And I feel that any good Star Trek fan should know that the future of Star Trek does not concern itself with religious beliefs.

@@benwetzel8449 My point was never to discuss what is and is not a part of the Star Trek universe, but rather what is and is not good for an audience. I know that Star Trek has lots of fantastical elements that require suspension of disbelief - intelligent life other than humans, for example. Since the perfect sci-fi show has not been created, though, we always have to deal with some kind of imperfection. Things that have the potential to hurt audiences are a little worse, though.

@@truebaptistfilms well, I sure as hell ain’t hurt by the presence of some gay people. If the existence of gay people is all that stands between society and oblivion, then society should have never formed at all

I mean yeah. By comparing it to south park, family guy and Rick and Morty he actually made me wanna watch at least the first episode as I did enjoy those 3 series and am not a rabid Star Trek fan, so I can enjoy a non-canon spinoff for what it is.

@@johnallen3033 To be honest the series is fine if you dont load it with expectations of what it should be and enjoy it as a non canon comedy spinoff. I watched the three episodes that are out and pretty much none of the stuff said in this video is accurate as far as the characters go. It's no masterpiece, bit it is ok for a bit of mild entertainment when you just want to relax.

@@SangerZonvolt may as well watch something else then, I doubt anyone is this bored

@@luigiwiiUU Why would I watch something else when I enjoy this one though?

@@SangerZonvolt oof

Or Babylon 5

Farscape is another good pick for that

Can somebody remember Andromeda?

@@WillHayes44 I think most people are actively trying to forget "Andromeda".

@@michaeldriggers7681 Oh, come on...

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Gene kinda lost out after he insisted on the first movie the Voyage Home. They shoed him away after that and he wasn't involved any more.

What you're asking for in this comment is what the show is all about. I recommend watching it.

Watch the show. It’s exactly what you asked for. Just remember - they’re new officers and 20-somethings. They got that 20-something energy and are total stans for Star Trek lore with incredible passion for what they do. The SNW crossover also mocks how loud and fast talking the kids are lol.

Star Trek: The Next Generation, Season 7, Episode 15, Lower Decks from wikipedia: In this episode, while enduring the Enterprise's promotion evaluation process, four junior officers find themselves involved in a top-secret mission[1] and is noted for its focus on non-main characters. The episode also brings back Sito Jaxa (Shannon Fill) previously introduced in "The First Duty". This episode is noted for focusing on a group of guest characters, rather than the main cast, and for its emotional impact. It has been rated highly among the series' episodes.

@@hamyncheese The fact that they successfully pulled this off before. Just pisses me off even more.

@@mikerueffer579 We watch about 5-7 episodes of TNG, DS9, and Voyager at my house on a weekly basis. It is so satisfying to watch. The new "Star Trek" is a frenetic mess that leaves me anxious and agitated.

@@hamyncheese It's what happens when you let overly neurotic freaks make the decisions.

@@mikerueffer579 there's nothing wrong with being a neurotic freak, if anything it's a bonus in this context. The problems lie completely elsewhere.

I watch Rick and Morty occasionally and even I wouldn’t touch this pile of shit with a ten foot pole

It won't work, we're smarter than that.. Plus the Rick & Morty crew seem to be sabotaging their own show since their tired or bored of it now..

I mean, the idea of a Star Trek cartoon isn't a bad one... it's just that this is not the type of cartoon it should have been. It is utterly derivative, cynical, and still plagued by the stupid ass problems the live shows have. Namely in it being set in the utterly botched kelvin timeline. Just go back to the real trek timeline, throw this all away and start over with the trek that is actually good. >__>

@carlangas world let is just remember the animated series as the true animated series.

I think they were more trying to reclaim the audience The Orville won over.

Some say that if you listen very closely at night, you can hear Rich's laugh echo through Milwaukee streets, followed by Mike's drunken cackle.

I recognized that and I clapped!

@@p.bamygdala2139 IT BROKE NEW GROUND!

@@p.bamygdala2139 So cool! So cool!

thats not calarts style, is final space style, im pretty sure they are the same ones, even the cat “model” looks like its the same but different colors.

@@saphi20 Agreed. This isn't exactly "Calarts". It looked like they traced the artstyle of Final Space. This is more of "generic adult cartoon style that most generic adult cartoons use now because they think it's what made other adult cartoons popular".

It’s not Cal-Arts style. It’s the GoAnimate style. The people who “popularised” the style didn’t study at Cal-Arts. The term was coined by John K., one of the greasiest bastards in animation who is bitter that animators are more influenced by Disney and Pixar’s style rather than his.

@Danny Morrissey no. even that failed what it could have been. I recall the concept video Olan made for it. It was much better, darker, more dramatic, still had the goofy humour tho. Then the studio came along, and i don't blame Olan Rogers, this was his break.... but the version they released, i felt it was dumbed down, made to appeal to generic, kid friendly mass market.

This isn't calarts. Steven universe is quintessential calarts. Regardless; still unwatchable. Just like steven universe.

I'd watch a Star Trek: Top Gear. And I'd be curious about a Family feud Cardassians vs Klingons. Ferengi host: "Name a thing hewmans like." Cardassian: "Root beer." Ferengi Host: "Show me root beer!" *DING!* Ferengi Host: "Name a thing hewmans like." Klingon: "Cowering in dishonor under their soft beds..." *X* Of course, even writing something as simple as that requires more love for Star Trek than whoever is in charge of it right now.

Star trek: k'lana, the Vulcan pimple popper.

Star Trek: Extreme Living Quarters Makeover Edition. "Oh, this decor has to go. Hel-looo, Stardate 45789.1 is calling. They want their wall pictures of nebulas back. Let's replace those with more modern pictures of galaxies instead."

Ok, I gotta admit, the real wives sounds pretty cool. All of Kirk and Riker's women dishing, oh yeah, count me in for that one. Why not, I have certainly seen enough DVD outtakes and interviews of them and Bond women too. THAT show could work, but this absolute garbage they are tossing out ishideouss.

Traveling with Tribbles

Have you watched TOS, women are all in secondary roles then cat called (at the least) most episodes ...

@@GwynnsWildRide Most women are just deeply attracted to Kirk's charm... *Kirk* : "Hello." *Random Woman* : "No man has ever spoken to me with such tender beauty. Oh, kiss me, kiss me passionately, Stranger"

Sure he was

@@InfernosReaper you are correct

@@InfernosReaper Kirk: And just like that. I like men now. Mister Sulu if you will. Sulu: Yes Captain. Kirk: Stardate: 3189.41 I will boldy be going where every man in San Francisco has gone before.

True. I believe those are his words, in fact, describing the shows premier episode "the cage".

He wanted to do film. Sadly the environment of Hollywood changed and he ended up doing B movies. He died do to injuries suffered from a botched special effect involving explosives. I think Star Trek could have been the brake that could have stabilized his career. I did like him as pike. I liked the 50s feel of the characters, and their interaction.

@@dirus3142 He died from a stroke after falling down some steps and hitting his head, six months after the accident on set. No evidence the two are linked. His son blamed his alcoholism.

No he listened to his stupid wife thereby giving the Shat a lifetime career that continues to this day. Noice!

No, HIS WIFE didn't want Jeffery Hunter doing TV. "My husband is a FILM STAR," were her exact words to the executives.

Agreed. I wasn’t crazy about season 1, but season 2 is good

Just finished season 1 it's not bad

I am glad at least one of us did

An endless cycle

That’s when you know The Drinker ran out of whiskey last night and has been drinking rum since noon instead.

He subverted our expectations

But he pretty well echoed how I feel about the current Star Blech.