Star Wars & Warhammer 40K- Ships Size Comparison

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Star wars and Warhammer 40K are no doubt two of the biggest sci fi franchises of all time, with both of them having hundreds of books and novels each, multiple PC games, one with an expansive cinematic reach while the other with a massive tabletop game lore and both of them with an impressive array of spaceships. So here in this video, we will compare both of their space and void ships in terms of sizes, more specifically the Imperium vs the Galactic empire’s ships with a few additions of the rebel alliance and resistance from the latter.
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@drgonzo305 9 күн бұрын

Star Wars vessels aren’t even equipped for broadsides and ramming?! They’d pose little threat

@ankoe0803 Күн бұрын

They have a firing spectrum over almost the entire sphere, excluding the stern, and then not in all cases.

@jiyuhong5853 22 күн бұрын

don't forget the massive chaos void fortress

@thorshammer7883 22 күн бұрын

I will forever be convicted to call Star Wars Expanded Universe the true canon. As far as I am concerned about Disney Star Wars never existed. It is the heart, blood, and spirit of what Star Wars originally was and the 90s authors like Timothy Zahn were faithful and good writers who shall forever have my respect and high regard for what they gave us in the 1990s and 2000s. Before the evil times and wicked people came.

@petervizzini4006 22 күн бұрын

I personally only like some of the ship designs from Disney and that's it

@thorshammer7883 22 күн бұрын

@@petervizzini4006 Your point?

@AeronHale 22 күн бұрын

I'm fairly sure this is the generally held sentiment among Starwars fans. Disney "Starwars" is an insult to everything that has been built up over the decades and everyone involved with creating the expanded universe.

@velstadtvonausterlitz2338 21 күн бұрын

Don't care. Starwars is garbage!

@thorshammer7883 21 күн бұрын

@@velstadtvonausterlitz2338 If you don't care then why did you comment to begin with on a comment that pays respect to the Expanded Universe of Star Wars? That would indicate that you do care about the subject.

@nikkotan2840 20 күн бұрын

In Star Wars, there are indeed massive ships, stations, and structures, both ancient and new. However, when you compare the scale to Warhammer 40K, it's on a whole other level. In 40K, we're not just talking about one or two gigantic constructs, but a multitude that are even mass-produced, spanning both ancient and new designs. Even the most infamous Star Wars constructs, like Death Star 1 and 2, Starkiller Base, and the Centerpoint Station, don't even come close to the colossal structures in 40K. These structures aren't just large; they are incredibly durable and strong, capable of cracking a planet upon impact. For instance, a Blackstone Fortress, an ancient station made of hyper-advanced metal and black stone, which is half the size of Earth's moon Luna, was dropped onto the planet Cadia, a military fortress world of the Imperium of Mankind, and caused it to crack. Additionally, the Necrons, an ancient race, built numerous planet-sized mobile stations and planet-killing machines known as World Engines. The leader of the Necrons even constructed a larger ship-like structure containing a cache of their knowledge, history, and downfall - essentially serving as a mausoleum and museum of their race, as well as his personal ship.

@nova4a943 20 күн бұрын

Macrage honor, there is only a single copy of the mayor of ultramarines, and the ships of the Glorian class themselves are a little

@nikkotan2840 20 күн бұрын

@@nova4a943 Exactly, also its the biggest ship of its class 26km compared to other Gloria Class standard size of 20km, like it's 1000km longer than that of the Executor Class and like the Executor Class which is 4km longer than the standard 15km Executor Class the Macragge's Honour and Executor was made to be a personal Flagship a 1 of the kind of it's class.

@skalgrimfellaxe5796 18 күн бұрын

@@nikkotan2840 There were about 25+ Glorianas that we know of, but most of them were larger than 20km and only two were smaller.

@nikkotan2840 17 күн бұрын

@@skalgrimfellaxe5796 True most Gloriana Class were larger but the standard original length when it first came out from Mars was 20km some were later modified through the millennium from the First Crusade until now, and those modifications give rise to bigger height, larger hulls, and taller lengths along with the improvements of its offense and defense as well as the added armor upgrade made by the Mechanicum for the past 11 thousand years. As you already know Gloriana Class is already a lost technology for the current Imperium of Mankind and the only way to keep this ancient ship is to constantly enhance and upgrade them to meet the criteria of the current battlefield of the 42nd Millenium.

@skalgrimfellaxe5796 17 күн бұрын

@@nikkotan2840 ah, but thats also a misconception, Glorianas are not standardized even from the start. Some that were built at the same ship yard were pretty much copies, like the Vengeful Spirit and its sistership the Harbinger of Doom (built at Mars for the Luna Wolves) , while others, like the Shadow of the Emperor (Raven Guard) or the Flamewrought (Salamanders) were built very differently from the start. The Imperium "can" build ships like them, the issue is rather that in 40k its no longer possible to build the massive generators and reactors needed for optimum efficiency at the same ship yard. The forge worlds have become specialized and hoard their knowledge so the combined knowledge needed to produce every critical component for a massive ship like a Gloriana can no longer be found in just one spot. There is also less of a need for such vessels as the legions are shattered. Under the supervision of Cawl and order of either a high lord or a primarch Im sure they could still create new Glorianas. They would just have to strong arm the Mechanicus pretty hard to do it.

@mix-up9003 22 күн бұрын

Wait Star killer base was only 660 Km!? How could it even hold an natural atmosphere on it's own before being converted into a planet killer?

@HolyknightVader999 22 күн бұрын

The base itself is 660 km. The planet is 5,870 km across.

@mix-up9003 22 күн бұрын

@@HolyknightVader999 Okay thanks for the clarification

@HolyknightVader999 21 күн бұрын

@@mix-up9003 No problem. If you have other questions about SW materials, I'm your man.

@nikkotan2840 20 күн бұрын

@@HolyknightVader999 Starkiller Base was slightly smaller than our moon, which has a diameter of 3,474 km. The question is, why did it have an atmosphere? The answer is simple: When asteroids, planetoids, and planets reach a certain size and mass, their gravity can hold and trap different kinds of gases. With the help of their molten core, geologic processes are created, giving birth to volcanoes and a magnetic field. These factors together lead to the development of an atmosphere. The only scientific and logical reason why our Earth's moon has no atmosphere is that it lacks the mass and gravity to form one. Additionally, the moon lacks the geologic processes required to produce volcanoes, gases, air pressure, and a magnetic field to contain an atmosphere. A good example of moons with active geologic processes and a strong magnetic field is Titan and Pandora in the film AVATAR. These moons have enough gravity and mass to hold a thick, breathable atmosphere.

@LSSD1292 17 күн бұрын

Lore wise starkiller base was built on planet illum, hence the atmosphere

@mpnuorva 22 күн бұрын

I'm half convinced Legends worldbuilding was done by people rejected from GW/Black Library for thinking too small. Star Wars ships are ridiculously large for what they are supposed to be (CR90 has crew complement around 6-8 times of a modern corvette) but not as absurdly big as 40k's.

@thorshammer7883 22 күн бұрын

I doubt people like Timothy Zahn had any contact with GW while he was writing the Thrawn Trilogy.

@VunderGuy 22 күн бұрын

Rejected from Black Library? More like Black Library was for rejects from basically everywhere.

@HolyknightVader999 22 күн бұрын

@@VunderGuy Black Library has such a lack of quality control that they don't even have a canon.

@ayshazafar2006 9 күн бұрын

@@VunderGuyWatch it dude, go read some older 40k books and then talk again

@BeatmasterAC 15 күн бұрын

meanwhile Orks: * slap an Engine on a Moon and due to their Power of Imagination it becomes an Attack Moon, that Travels through Real Space and the Warp *

@lightnihilus 16 күн бұрын

I love Starwars Legends. Especially the Expanded Universe. Don't forget the Prototype Death Star, the Ecplise 2, (The Devastion CIS superweapon its almost twice the size of the Meleverance). Theirs also the Sovereign Class SSD , Star Forge, (World Devastators can self upgrade and increase in size. While creating Fleets of itself.)

@nobrain3282 22 күн бұрын

The Imperium of Man has the stronger Emperor, Psyker and the stronger fleet. The Emperor Protects!

@HolyknightVader999 22 күн бұрын

Not true. The Eldar far surpass his fleet by a longshot. Also, Palpatine came back from the dead on his own and zapped an entire fleet. The Emperor of Mankind can't do that. Not to mention Palpatine had a whole fleet of planet killers. Abaddon only had one.

@nobrain3282 22 күн бұрын

@@HolyknightVader999 The Emperor of mankind has done more powerful things like destroying a fleet or to hose the death itself 😅.

@HolyknightVader999 22 күн бұрын

@@nobrain3282 Palpatine destroyed entire fleets with Force storms and can respawn with clone bodies.

@nobrain3282 22 күн бұрын

@@HolyknightVader999 This is what Psyker can do, and a soultransplantation/wandering to another body...a lot of people in 40k do this, it is nothing special. The Adeptus Mechanicus can do it with technical equipment, and Alpha-Psyker do it with their powers...they can awaken the dead too.

@HolyknightVader999 22 күн бұрын

@@nobrain3282 Yet they cannot revive the Emperor, whereas Palpatine came back using clone bodies.

@siegmund2000 20 күн бұрын

The most ridiculous thing about the speranza isn't even it's size, rather it's weaponry. Thoose main canons (I guess they are the main canons) do not look really but in reality they are about the size of state of Connecticut (at least)... Even the avarage 40k ship is firing shells and torpedos the size of trucks if not your house. What is the Speranza firing? A town? The explosive equivalent of a small city?

@magos_dalunawolf8166 18 күн бұрын

I’ve read the forges of mars books and those cannons have old age of tech stuff. It stomped the eldar ships attacking it by shooting singularities at them and it was only one of them firing at the eldar.

@alxxz 13 күн бұрын

Well I suppose those frontal main guns fire energy based particle beams similar to the planet destroying energy weapons we see in sci-fi, rather than physical projectiles. So there's that.

@quocbaole467 7 күн бұрын

well if i have to said it main cannon was comparison with the black stone fortress that capable of killing god the weapon was a star destroyer and dont forget it have huge amount of armament that capable of create black hole even the eldarim fear human with this kind of aspect , in their golden age humanity with their destruction technologies never have a damn xeno scum waging a total war only some minor skirmish was erupt in neutral zone even the ork and eldarim the most ignorant species that was guide and prosper with the help of their god dont try to provoke humanity (human the most fearless species stood with their own 2 feet having no god backing them but advance to the level that rival other super power civilization ) there was a sentence said that eldarim was ready to go for an all out war with human but didnt expect that the human did a move no one could have they littery warp their entire solar system near the eldarim border that shock all of them and that why they sign the non aggressive treaty

@user-dh5hf2np8x 14 күн бұрын

the very Orcs who sometimes remake planets for their ships to ram

@RoboticPope 22 күн бұрын

Nice bit of reverse parking by the Eclipse there ;-)

@quocbaole467 19 күн бұрын

for any one whose dont know how advance humanity in 40k when they was at it peak then the speranza was an example this kind of ship was being mass product at that time and they was deadly as hell if not because of the men of iron they the human would likely be much more advance than the necron was

@anonymuz796 18 күн бұрын

As Starkiller Warhammer 40K has World Engine.

@PrinceGabrielInoc 15 күн бұрын

Wait, how about the ship that abaddon used to crash or so to say 9/11'd cadia? It's almost the size of a craftworld

@djashovel 21 күн бұрын

I miss a lot of the ships from legends Star wars ships where a lot bigger

@kovadlinka8118 22 күн бұрын

eh... why are there ships from non-canon Legends but DS 1&2 size is taken from canon? it's little unfair... in Legends DS 1 was claimed to had more than 200 km (maybe up to 400 km) in diametre, when i consider that DS prototype on Maw Instalation was around 100 km in diametre a was refered as "much smaller" then full size DS1 and DS2 was at least twice size than DS1, but common number is around 900 km in diametre, stated canon sizes can't be taken seriously... all sizes was taken from old books from Legends, like Jedi Academy trilogy or The Essential Guide to Vehicles and Vessels, etc... most TTD was lately retconed or specified but often they don't make sense

@thorshammer7883 22 күн бұрын

Current disney canon can suck itself into a void and be forgotten for all time.

@thorshammer7883 22 күн бұрын

If you thought those were large. You were right however there are some mods for Stellaris called Gigastructural Engineering and Ancient Cache of Technologies that may surprise you even more with how giant the tera structures are. You thought building Dyson spheres were extreme? Nope. Try Birch worlds, solar system sized Gigastructures, Systemcraft, and the one and only Gargantuan Quasarcraft. A vessel so big and powerful it one shots even the Stellarborne. But wait there's more Stellaris isn't the only game alone. There's a game called Star Ruler which many do not know about but from what I seen in extreme cases you can bulid ships so astronomically large they can surpass even a galaxy. It makes you feel like you are a extra galactic power house on par with a faction from Xeelee Sequence. Yep now that's one the biggest.

@voomvoom4522 21 күн бұрын

K but that's a random mod. It's the equivalent of winning because you have an everything-proof shield.

@thorshammer7883 21 күн бұрын

@@voomvoom4522 I wouldn't say random. The mods are pretty good with their own stories and designs of ships. Besides I mentioned another game Star Ruler which isn't a mod.

@velstadtvonausterlitz2338 21 күн бұрын

No one reads the xelee sequence. It's considered garbage in the sci-fi community.

@thorshammer7883 21 күн бұрын

@@velstadtvonausterlitz2338 Is that going to stop me from talking about it? No.

@Kangbmw 2 күн бұрын

To serve, or to kill the emperor

@KrautGoesWild 12 күн бұрын

Me: "Ever since I watched _The Empire Strikes Back_ as a kid I live by the motto that a starship can't be too big, too heavily armed or too cool-looking." ☝😀 Warhammer 40K: "Hold my amasec!" Star Wars: "Hold my Ruby Bliel!" Me: 😊

@zeehero7280 22 күн бұрын

the Speranza would be more believable if it was a bit less LONG and didn't have a cannon the size of texas in the front.

@SampoPaalanen 22 күн бұрын

To be fair WH40k can rely on being mostly a written format, while Star Wars is mostly a visual format so you can make massive ships in Warhammer much more easily as you make vague descriptions that very hard to put into actual specific size, while with Star Wars you typically have something near to compare the ship to.

@STARGUN8687 22 күн бұрын

Why is the most obscure sci-fi fantasy has to be believable?)

@archongaur1191 22 күн бұрын

its not suppose to be believable from modern day perspective--- its mythical ancient super ship Ark Mechanicus filled with GOD level technology... not to mention there are other scifi IPs with much bigger super structures and ships than anything in w40k or star wars.... this is not suppose to be hard scifi you know?

@phantomwraith1984 22 күн бұрын

It's about the same size as a craft world

@STARGUN8687 22 күн бұрын

@@phantomwraith1984 and not just a smallest Craftworld either. I

@HolyknightVader999 22 күн бұрын

Something's wrong. Starkiller Base is an entire planet, the Speranza is only the size of a continent. So the former should be larger than the latter. Especially since Ilum's diameter is 5,870 kilometers.

@phantomwraith1984 22 күн бұрын

Starkiller base is the planet of Ilum which is only 660km across. It's smaller than pluto

@HolyknightVader999 22 күн бұрын

@@phantomwraith1984 Ilum's diameter is 5,870 KM.

@romancd 21 күн бұрын

@@HolyknightVader999 In legends it's 5,870km but in canon where the starkiller base exists it's 660km

@HolyknightVader999 21 күн бұрын

@@romancd That's just for the firing mechanism.

@farasmardianto8409 21 күн бұрын

and is star killer a ship i thought it was just some kind of base that can fire very far unlike deathstar that must position first before they fire.

@boots_onthe_ground 22 күн бұрын

A space marine chapter vs the Jedi order

@HolyknightVader999 22 күн бұрын

That won't even last long. 1000 Space Marines won't be enough to conquer Nar Shaddaa, let alone the whole Jedi order.

@nobrain3282 22 күн бұрын

A job for the Grey Knights, no chance for the Jedi.

@HolyknightVader999 22 күн бұрын

@@nobrain3282 Not really. The Jedi would easily sense them and slice them into pieces. Also, the Jedi have Force speed.

@URKCEHinoSuu 22 күн бұрын

Make it a legion, then it would be fair. 1k can't take on the entire order. Or just send the black templars. They don't follow the codex 😂 7, 8k of them or even the space wolves.

@nobrain3282 22 күн бұрын

@@HolyknightVader999 The Jedi are low-tier Psyker, their abilities and powers are called lesser psycic powers in 40K. An Astropath or Primaris Psyker is much more powerful as a Jedi-Master. They can alter the reality with their powers, not only manipulate it.

@skalgrimfellaxe5796 22 күн бұрын

Lots of made up numbers there for the Imperial and Mechanicus ships. (Ark Mechanicus, Bucephelus, Phalanx and especially for the Speranza) Also not taking into account the largest ships in 40K is an odd choice. Ships like Aeldari craftworlds, often continent sized or larger, or the Necron World Engine which was planetary sized should be mentioned if you are doing a universe comparison. In many cases there are no numbers ever stated so yes one can only make estimations but this is pretty wild and out there with little to no factual backing for several ships mentioned.

@HolyknightVader999 21 күн бұрын

40K fans love their made-up numbers. SW at least draws their figures from official tech specs.

@tjoe0463 21 күн бұрын

@HolyknightVader999 eat my 40k numbers star wars fan🤣

@HolyknightVader999 21 күн бұрын

@@tjoe0463 Your numbers aren't worth anything. At least when SW fans say turbolasers can go up to 200 gigatons, they have official stats from tech manuals and a Library of novels to prove it.

@voomvoom4522 21 күн бұрын

@@HolyknightVader999neither are yours. At least 40k numbers make sense in the context of the setting. Legends figures were made up by someone who never even watched the movies.

@HolyknightVader999 21 күн бұрын

@@voomvoom4522 The movies never showed orbital bombardment under Lucas, so nothing these writers ever wrote contrasted his vision. Also under Lucas, the earliest lorebooks and comics made it clear that one ISD can glass entire worlds. So the Legends numbers were written by people who know the canon. ISDs can glass unshielded worlds, but shielded worlds would necessitate a Death Star or some other super weapon to take down.

@phantomwraith1984 22 күн бұрын

In star wars, colossal super lasers need to be built in order to crack planets open. In 40k on the low end, we have cyclonic torpedoes. On the batshit end, we have Cawl's black hole emitter

@Rhysman30 22 күн бұрын

The Speranza herself has black hole weaponry.

@yoannbelleville7763 22 күн бұрын

Affecting the climate and atmosphere to make a planet inabitable is something that can be easily done in Star Wars (take operation cinder for instance). However, completelly destroying a planet (while more than duable) is a rarity even in 40k. Most people don't seem to make the difference for some reason.

@HolyknightVader999 22 күн бұрын

Lol cyclonic torpedoes won't be able to crack open planetary shields the way a superlaser can. Also, regular ship turbolasers can glass planets. Oh, and by the end of the Sequels, the Empire has mass-produced superlasers mounted on souped-up ISDs.

@HolyknightVader999 22 күн бұрын

@@yoannbelleville7763 Because 40K fans think it's the same. They think Exterminatus glassing a whole planet is the same as Tarkin destroying Alderaan, when it couldn't be any more different. One is the planetary equivalent of setting something on fire, the other is the planetary equivalent of disintegration.

@thorshammer7883 22 күн бұрын

Not exactly the same thing in terms of powerscaling the destructive potency however. As planet vaporization is far more powerful then surface destruction or cracking continents apart to make the surface uninhabitable. One is in the zettatons and yottatons of force while the others are in petatons and exatons range. I would more pit the Death Star against the UNSC's NOVA bomb which does almost the same exalt range of potent planet busting yields as it does.

@user-jc7uz5lo3c 19 күн бұрын

Btw SuperStarDestroyers are common in SW

@voomvoom4522 18 күн бұрын

No they ain't. The Empire only had about 50.

@user-jc7uz5lo3c 16 күн бұрын

@@voomvoom4522 Read Dark Empire Sourcebook

@mtrunkello 18 күн бұрын

This is just not true at all lol. Source on Speranza's size? Speranza is an Ark Mechanicus ship and nowhere near the size you showed here

@TheOneWhoSometimesSaysOk 15 күн бұрын

It was said in the book that it was continent sized, had the industrial output of your local forgeworld and could fit several imperial vessels inside its hangars.

@Povinger 22 күн бұрын

Ster killer! @ RIP by few x-wings....

@HolyknightVader999 21 күн бұрын

Only because they had help from the inside.

@Povinger 21 күн бұрын

@@HolyknightVader999 oh yeah, help of few ppls inside the planet-size base

@HolyknightVader999 21 күн бұрын

@@Povinger Exactly.

@rouvendaniel9121 19 күн бұрын

Warhammer mit Star Wars zu vergleichen... endet nur in der Frage, welches Imperium wahnsinniger ist und die Größeren Kanonen hat. 😂 Und um ehrlich zu sein, beim Wahnsinn liegt das Imperium der Menschheit weit vorn. 😂. Und genau deswegen ist das Franchise cool. Du musst mit Wahnsinn Wahnsinn übertreffen Star Wars ist auf andere Weise cool. Hier treffen 2 gegensätzliche Kräfte aufeinander, die beide recht haben und beide falsch liegen. Und darum kämpfen, wer den nun richtig recht hat. Beide Franchises seh ich gerne und ich lese die Lore beider. Ich will dir nicht widersprechen, was die Größe der beiden Franchises angeht. Aber Star Trek hätte noch an 2ter oder dritter Stelle genannt werden sollen. Der Vollständigkeit halber. My english isn't very well. Thats why i wrote in german.

@user-kx3ss4ou7e 22 күн бұрын

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@Pridefallen975 21 күн бұрын

This is no longer ship many of them are space stations

@Specter_Awaked 20 күн бұрын

why did they take only the Galactic Empire? Where are the Old Republic and the Pre-Republican era?

@user-gt6ju1ir2r 2 сағат бұрын

Тогда будем брать человечество ТЭТ

@monkeyboy5515 21 күн бұрын

Speranza seems laughably way too big for golden age humanity. Halo’s forerunner who could snipe golden age humanity didn’t even have ships 1k-km. Only stations should ever be that big like I could only imagine what the station that would be needed for resupply that abomination would have to be. I would also have to say if it’s that big what other faction as a similar size.

@Josephmoldes 18 күн бұрын

The old ones and necrons would destroy the forerunners though

@vaevictis6990 21 күн бұрын

Remember the scale of 40k is insane. Those destroyer at under 1000m are the DISPOSABLE escorts, but they are in the same weight class as a pocket star destroyer

@HolyknightVader999 21 күн бұрын

Not really. Their macrocannons are at the kiloton level, whereas even an Acclamator that's 700 meters long have turbolasers in the gigaton level.

@vaevictis6990 21 күн бұрын

@HolyknightVader999 oh I agree, Acclamator wins vs Sword Class. But that's the point. They are in same WEIGHT class, but 40k considers as disposable a frigate/destroyer, but in Star Wars it's a valuable cruiser.

@HolyknightVader999 21 күн бұрын

@@vaevictis6990 Nope. SW ships have a lighter weight class but a higher firepower class. The most common Macrocannon is the Mark VI Mars-Pattern Macrocannon which is in the kiloton range. At most, lance batteries and Nova Cannons are a thousand times stronger than that in the megaton range. Turbolasers are canonically stated and shown in both Disney and Legends canon to be in the gigaton range, and even in the earliest lore books and comics, Imperial warships can glass planets with turbolasers; they don't need cyclonic torpedoes to do it.

@vaevictis6990 21 күн бұрын

@HolyknightVader999 WEIGHT not power. Weight is just tonnage, not a measure of weapons

@HolyknightVader999 21 күн бұрын

@@vaevictis6990 Power is where it matters. A smaller ship with a higher firepower rate is better than a larger ship that has less firepower.