Behringer EDGE vs Moog DFAM Are they the same?

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The Behringer Edge is Here! But how does it sound? Here its put up next to the Moog DFAM, and as far as comparisons go this was extremely good fun to make.
The big takeaway for me was... if you haven't got one... YOU NEED 2 :)
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• From The Studio
0:00 #comparison clip 1&2
0:30 Preamble - What Am I Doing?
1:46 #comparison clip3
2:38 Oscillators - They've got 2 plus noise
2:56 Sync - A Universe in a Knob
3:31 FM - It's a big thing on these
4:01 Oscillator Freq Range
4:15 Did Someone Say Filters?
5:50 Envelopes
7:18 Noise VCF Mod - its noise but not as we know it
7:54 What's Pink Noise
8:45 High Pass Filters, but not too much
9:02 The 2-track Sequencer
9:42 Matching Some Sounds
11:18 Matching a Loop
14:05 Matching a More Complex Loop
16:55 Wrapping Up
17:28 One after another DEMO 1
18:40 Left + Right Stereo DEMO 2
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@StarskyCarr Жыл бұрын

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@EchoKraft Жыл бұрын

Awesome video! Looks like I’ll be getting the Edge ❤

@minusthetext 6 ай бұрын

As someone who does most of their music in FL, I had to sell my DFAM because of the annoyance of not being able to tempo sync through even MIDI. I really dug the sound but it wasn't at all practical with my setup. The addition of that plus USB on the Behringer makes it way, way more appealing.

@MrElectribes 24 күн бұрын

100% instant techno maschine edge !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@johnscott8955 Жыл бұрын

Yeah I'm sold. Thanks again Starsky.

@ogasi1798 Жыл бұрын

wicked vid as always - great combo having both, 2 flavours - run edge in hp (which i think is a proper screamer) and dfam in lp 🙂

@someonewhobitthedust9124 Жыл бұрын

I got a crave about 4 months ago, this is the best timing now that I’ve got a fairly decent understanding of the crave. Thanks for sharing

@loidis9347 Жыл бұрын

The Moog filter is a cut above. For the price I think the EDGE is great though

@colinmackay1516 Жыл бұрын

Sync wave sounded better on the Moog too.

@maximilianpilarczyk2168 Жыл бұрын

Wooow! This left and right demo of yours sounds incredible when played together in stereo. Great idea!

@Sol_Keez 10 ай бұрын

I think your comparison video helped me get over that you get what you pay for thing because i swore nothing could compare to moog or i thought it would sound thin. Sounds good to me

@davidgoode7416 Жыл бұрын

Great demo, thanks!

@tesseracht Жыл бұрын

I love my DFAM and have been thinking about getting a second one but was waiting for a review of the Edge before deciding. After seeing this I am 100% going to pick up an Edge.

@CO5MA Жыл бұрын

Nice review and comparison 😊👌🏻

@dzaxys4643 Жыл бұрын

Thanks mate good stuff got my edge pre-order in can't wait sold my dfam and regret it so chuffed to get an edge hopefully soon

@lukeskywalker2656 Жыл бұрын

✨Cooles Video, Starsky Carr 👍🤌🏻🤞

@DavidJKellett Жыл бұрын

Another excellent video. To me in the video they sound very, very similar and I’m sure in the room it would be the same. I have a DFAM and have an Edge on order. I may just buy two Edges now. The clock divider and the ability to get MIDI velocity to the Edge too will make them more flexible than the DFAM.

@JohnGauge790 Жыл бұрын

That stereo split at the end is brilliant

@krsTBedfordStudios Жыл бұрын

At last!! I remember doing this with the Crave and the M-32... and to all intents, they were almost identical in so many ways. Great video Mr C..!

@neuzethmusic131 Жыл бұрын

But the filter makes the difference. Moog is Moog. I have a Mavis in my Eurorack and I love it.

@krsTBedfordStudios Жыл бұрын

@NEUZETH MUSIC I agree, if you listen to them closely, then the Moog filter is much smoother, whereas the Behringer filter has noticeable stepping. But really if you're only listening out for it can you hear it! The biggest difference I find is in the VCO's, but, I've always preferred the Cool Audio 3340's over the Moogs discrete oscillators, although this is purely personal taste.

@MikeButlerOnline Жыл бұрын

Awesome. Great comparison. Thank you. Btw... if anyone uses iPad, Rainmaker Noir is basically a DFAM app.

@callumbourne Ай бұрын

You just saved me quite a bit of cash with this! I think the pink noise option gave the edge … the edge. Also what a nice surprise to hear a fellow scouser on one of these videos

@user-qc7jr7tm1f 4 ай бұрын

Very, very great sound friend

@Oceanwireaudio Жыл бұрын

Bloody hell, apart from the silly colour, it’s very good. The Moog does have a little more subtle slop but that may be my brain playing tricks on me. Well done on this great comp.

@OhRaez Жыл бұрын

I absolutely love the purple. Gives it some character, doesn't make you stare at bleak greys/blacks/whites all session and want to blow your brains out.

@paulbali9998 Жыл бұрын

lovely playing

@floyd101954 8 ай бұрын

Another great comparison video. Your Crave vs Mother 32 convinced me to buy the Crave, now you’ve convinced me to get The Edge. I just pre ordered it from Amazon at a super special price of only $117.00 dollars. Amazing!

@al.cavalu 8 ай бұрын

Seems out of stock everywhere... Are they building a new batch?

@floyd101954 8 ай бұрын

@@al.cavalu it seems that the Amazon offer is over. If you do a search there it does not even show up. Mine is still showing in my Amazon orders page with a Notice that I will be notified when it is in stock and ships. I also checked with Amazon customer support and they confirmed that my order is in their system and will ship as soon as they are in Stock. For me especially at this price it’s worth the wait. I wouldn’t get it any sooner elsewhere.

@soejrd24978 6 ай бұрын

Damn, it's about $300 here

@AdamsOlympia 23 күн бұрын

It's 200 here. When was it 117?

@floyd101954 23 күн бұрын

@@AdamsOlympia Amazon back in Marxh

@pablowentscobar 14 күн бұрын

Fantastic video.

@TravelatorH8r 5 ай бұрын

Yes thank you for this video the second I saw the edge with the dedicated analog sequencer and all the modulation I figured this looks like a familiar modular drum synthesizer

@LB-pp7pu Жыл бұрын

You make the best instruments comparison videos on youtube

@ericscorpse Жыл бұрын

You are doing better marketing for Behringer than they do for themselves! That said, great demo of this (imo awesome sounding) drum synth.

@1milanz69 Жыл бұрын

I can only say the second plant with the little white flowers gave the best results. Panning the first plant from left to right gave an interesting effect though. Lilac cables and wood table make the visual impact very appealing. Noice !

@StarskyCarr Жыл бұрын

😂

@FishCow Жыл бұрын

The small gaps in the wooden table made a huge difference for me.

@ben1210 Жыл бұрын

It's not a table, those are extremely extravagant end cheeks

@FishCow Жыл бұрын

@@ben1210 Then I take it all back and feel disappointed :)

@MrSteveALP Жыл бұрын

loving the 'no bullshit' approach to these

@Imetalman2000 Жыл бұрын

Oh yes! A Carr VS video to help me decide on weather to get a defam or edge.. ok now I just want both of them 😅.

@alexbreugelmans8448 2 ай бұрын

Perfect comparison, thanks, i was on the edge of buying the moog but will go for the edge now.

@jizzmaster2000 4 ай бұрын

@19.28 Nice hell yes that is some sweet shis. Congrats at getting both at the same settings for the demo.

@Midi-olo-gist6758 11 ай бұрын

Really appreciate your comparisons with the two. I'm sold on the Edge. I mean for the price it can't be beat. Thanks a bunch guy 😊

@vaiman7777 Жыл бұрын

Nice video. Interesting. I’m still on the fence. I’ll probably pick one up second hand.

@agerven Жыл бұрын

Very good comparison video! What i find strange is that Behringer used a CEM (well almost a CEM) for the VCF. i would have very much preferred when they had used the Crave VCF in t his module also. The filter plays an essential role, especially in a small percussive sound source. Hopefully they will do that in a reworked version of the Edge. That would make it more compatible soundwise with the Crave also.

@StarskyCarr Жыл бұрын

I’m pretty sure it’s a CEM in the CRAVE as well (Behringer manufacturers the chips - used by sequential etc

@marcpinion Жыл бұрын

I am a Moog fanboy and have 2 Moogs . I am particuly into analog synth music but I would never have got a Mother 32 or a DFAM but after this I will probably get a Crave and an Edge.

@lucid484 Жыл бұрын

If not for the sound, so that you're moog gear will last much longer.

@marcpinion Жыл бұрын

@@lucid484 I have a large number of synths Moog ,Arturia,Roland and Behringer. The thing that would stop me getting the Mother 32 or the DFAM is the price for what they cost new together I could get a second hand MatrixBrute or a Sub 37. Much more versatile.

@lucid484 Жыл бұрын

@@marcpinion Definitely can support the MatrixBrute as I have one and it’s absolutely amazing. Also just looked at the Moog prices and Jesus!!! $1,200 for Moog vs $400 vs Behringer.

@TJ-hs1qm Жыл бұрын

@@lucid484 cutthroat capitalist vs worker cooperative 😅

@lucid484 Жыл бұрын

@@TJ-hs1qm I'll take cutthraot capital for $500 Alex. A working man enjoy getting the best bang for his hard earned dollar.

@espasphalt Жыл бұрын

The noise options on the edge do seem to be brighter than the dfams which is nice, the dfams fm sounds a little bit finer but that might just be due to how it was swept thru in the video

@rmatson 8 ай бұрын

I have to agree with the big takeaway -- that you need 2 :-). Doubling is always a nice thing to play with.

@benluff6079 Жыл бұрын

I love my DFAM but the addition of a midi-in/thru would have been super useful. I'm going to save my money for the Spice though...

@aubrey5495 Жыл бұрын

Cant wait for my edge

@glenorpheus Жыл бұрын

And just like that, I've pre ordered theEdge from Andertons Music for what seems like quite a saving compared to other stores. 😎

@urbannpa Жыл бұрын

I've already got the crave it just needs companionship!

@petercane6376 Ай бұрын

That was a brilliant video and thank you. I think you were a bit hard on yourself for not being precise and exact. But yes there are ones to find fault. To be perfectly honest, if you did that comparrison behind curtains I wonder how many would get it wrong? I was going for the dfam as I have the mother and subharmonicon but I think I will get the Edge now and a Strymon Big sky with the rest of the money I would have spent on a dfam. Thanks again. Great demmo.

@chrisinmadison Жыл бұрын

Fantastic comparison and demo, thanks! One thing that's difficult to tell from the video is any differences in knob response. You mentioned at one point that you had to take care with the Behringer knobs because a tiny movement could make a big change. In that respect do you find the DFAM easier to control and to use for performance?

@StarskyCarr Жыл бұрын

Thanks… No they’re the same. I think I was talking about the tuning. They both have huge ranges so it can be difficult to dial in an exact pitch. The main difference is in the envelopes. I think perhaps the DFAM are analog and the Edge are digital, giving finer control on the DFAM plus a longer release, but unless you’re comparing side by side I don’t really think anyone would notice tbh.

@chrisinmadison Жыл бұрын

@@StarskyCarr thanks! That's very helpful.

@F-Andre Жыл бұрын

Nice Video. I met you on the Superbooth:) ipromised to subscribe ;) im jealous of your great voice

@Tiger.Arcade Жыл бұрын

Great review. Coming from a DFAM owner, this and every other behringer synth always sound brighter. Just me?

@bbdeffect Жыл бұрын

Yes. Their prophet 600 knock off also sounds much tighter than original.

@alexbreyer6921 Жыл бұрын

That's the fog lifting from your realization you paid too much.

@mfrican1127 3 ай бұрын

Got my Edge last week. I've been making some patches from another youtuber's DFAM patch book (braintree56), and getting the Edge to sound exactly like the DFAM like Starsky did in this video is FUCKING crazy! There are for sure some sonic differences, but I'm still happy to make electronic angry fart music.

@neuzethmusic131 Жыл бұрын

As a Crave owner I have to say, the form factor is really nice on these Behringer boxes. Only little downside is the position of the patch bay imho. As I do mainly ambient, I'm not much into the drum machine business, but for the price, I'm really tempted by the Edge to do some percussive experiments.

@Il-Cane Жыл бұрын

I hate ambient users ahaha , reverb everywhere and 0 knowledge of synthesis

@jacksonl1953 Жыл бұрын

@@Il-Cane why can’t someone make ambient music and understand synthesis? I don’t really understand

@OhRaez Жыл бұрын

Ambient music, but not into drum machines? You're missing out on very interesting stuff

@jameshall1075 Жыл бұрын

@@Il-Cane Get over yourself. Dont be a gatekeeper. I've been doing this for over 20 years and fully grasp synthesis and sound design. So, hate away. If you don't like it, don't listen to it. Personally, I think it's fun to make and if it's fun then I don't see the issue, but you know what is better apparently.

@tcnotrvlr 2 күн бұрын

If I were looking for something that can do rumbling style sounds, then Edge it is. But the DFAM clearly has a tighter low end and a filter with more overtones. What I'm looking for in this type of machine is something that doesn't just do boomy kick and bright hihat patterns. What I want is the modular glitch sound. I already have sampled kicks and hihats so what I need is tom and percussion patterns. For that, the DFAM is the winner.

@ianperesmusic Жыл бұрын

As someone with 2 DFAMS, I am absolutely blown away by how good the Edge sounds. Will need to get one, or three 😏. Great video!

@fatkev1983 Жыл бұрын

Two DFAMS must be quite some fun at the same time... I was thinking of getting a second Edge if I enjoy the first one (pre-ordered it after watching Starsky's review of it).

@dankeplace Жыл бұрын

@@fatkev1983 2 will take you further, same as having 2 Craves, they just more capabilities when having a 2nd. I had 2 M32s, sold them because both Subharmonicon and DFAM never existed then. Crave + Edge will bring you a ton of fun imo.

@fatkev1983 Жыл бұрын

@@dankeplace I am looking forward to it!

@ericMT Жыл бұрын

3 Edge for the price of one DFAM is crazy if you think about it, considering they sound about the same.

@electricdawn2258 Жыл бұрын

@@ericMT Not really if you think about it. It's all about development cost and labour hours, and IMHO labour hours covers probably at least 75% of that. Manufacturing in China is quite a lot cheaper than manufacturing in Europe or the USA. Nothing crazy about that. Just the usual cloning tactics. It's an old hat. I'm still surprised that Behringer has never been caught for violation of the copyright act. But I guess Moog doesn't really care.

@jamesprisciandaro3144 11 ай бұрын

They sound damn nigh identical in the L+R stereo demo at the end!

@jamesprisciandaro3144 11 ай бұрын

Or maybe my left ear has an integrated 4 pole ladder filter 🤯

@sainerd.5982 Жыл бұрын

These very little differences in sound make me wanna have more the EDGE than the DFAM. For sythbass or lead the moog sound would fit better, cause of its unexactness and "oily, sinister undertone" as Jason Tran describted, but for percussions and kicks i like the lttle better clearness of the behringer more. And what i like very much on the EDGE is the clock-divider! But after all, they sound nearly exact the same.

@frallorfrallor3410 10 ай бұрын

so tiny diffrence going moog is 3 to 1 price 1 moog cost same as edge spice crave lolo

@THR-zf6ti 9 ай бұрын

Hey Starsky - great video but two kind questions: 1. what are these cool blinking patch cables??? Never seen such cables before - guess it's inbuild LED and no reflection, right? And second question: is there a possibility to do a 7 or 5 step pattern in the Edge? I heard that might possible in DFAM to skip a step by turning the velocity knob of the step to max --- but I have an Edge ...

@StarskyCarr 9 ай бұрын

Thanks… the cables are from analogue solutions. They’re good for seeing what’s going on with triggers, LFOs, envelopes etc. and no the EDGE is limited to the 8 steps.

@matthiasreichert4016 Жыл бұрын

thx 4 the video! i think it sounds similar enough to consider it for the midi connectivity. that missing midi was why i sold my dfam. so i would be interested in the midi :D, can you sequence it from another device lets say the octatrack or something and maybe run the internal sequencer aswell and transpose the 8 step sequence every 16th step, and do this 4 times to get a 64 step -ish feel to it?? or hook it on a keystep and play it as a dual vco mono synth?

@StarskyCarr Жыл бұрын

No as far as I know the knobs are pure analog not connected to any control. So no transposing… as for creating longer sequences with a few I wonder where it could be possible somehow by triggering them sequentially?

@lesterfalcon1350 Жыл бұрын

I'm taking it that the internal sequencer and the midi are going to be two separate things. Apart from clock sync you are choosing one or the other. I can using the 8 steps as an idea pads, they recreating the knobs positions in a the DAW sequencer, and then fleshing them out into something more evolved. Being able to recall the steps in a sequencer is a main selling point for me. As well as being able to do more complex rhythms or even simpler ones with 16th timings over a bar. This synth can have such a dominating sound, sometimes less is more, instead of playing every 8th note. I really hope the tuning stability is good on this, and once the master tuning is set, it can be left and the DAW can sequence melodic percussion ideas.

@LoVeAmBiEnT Жыл бұрын

200 bucks I’m all about the behringer. I already tried to buy it but of course it’s not available yet. They’re promoting it as it is available which is always fun.

@jamesprisciandaro3144 Жыл бұрын

They both sound great, and one of them I can even afford!

@ricardleandro 11 ай бұрын

Hello, great video! Can you tell me what software do you use to show the soundwaves screens at 5:30? Cheers!

@StarskyCarr 11 ай бұрын

Meldaproductions there’s a free version of the oscilloscope you can use or pay around £30 for a few of their basics like this with some added functionality

@l1fef0rm 8 ай бұрын

dfam has those knobs that are easy to nudge by the edge of your fingers and is much more knob twiddler friendly. edge has midi. other than that, almost the same. i like the big ridged dfam knobs and already have a dfam. but edge sounds great too.

@RaquelFoster Жыл бұрын

The DFAM looks sooooooo much better with those knobs! How solid are they, though? I would expect them to maybe be a little wobbly... But then, I would expect the Edge knobs to be about the same as the RD-9. It's funny that the chassis is mostly metal and could be used for self defense, but then the knobs are slightly flimsy-feeling. Regardless, Sweetwater isn't getting them till mid-August. I should've bought one from Thomann while they were in stock. I'm a little concerned that InMusic is gonna file an injunction before I get one LOL. I mean, now that Moog is owned by a company with lawyers and money. That’s one thing making an improved 808/909 40 years later … but making functionally-identical copies of two of Moog’s best selling products that are only 5 years old ...

@StarskyCarr Жыл бұрын

The knobs are solid. Theyre a bit of a pain to install as they’re all screwed onto the existing little pots not just popped over the top.

@oo_iNVWSSV_oo 9 ай бұрын

you can always replace the knobs. check out modularaddict or similar supplier for replacement black/silver knobs like moog's. as for the color of the unit itself, heinakroon sells panel overlay kits so you dont have to look at purple.

@RaquelFoster Жыл бұрын

I keep thinking everybody would be better off getting a Behringer Model D and a Korg SQ-1 than either of them. Or hooking an SQ-1 up to just about anything and pretending it's a DFAM. The SQ-1 is basically a much-improved DFAM sequencer (multiple quantization options, 16-step options, random options), and the Model D has better envelopes and an extra oscillator. Maybe I'm missing something... Although setting the PPQ on the SQ-1 is tricky. There's a chart on Korg's FAQ for the SQ-1, but it's difficult to comprehend, and obviously they should've put the info in the manual. But it's an awesome little sequencer. I think I figured it out, so if anybody cares: Korg SQ-1 = 1StP (4 PPQ) default - hold down START/STOP while turning on to enter global parameter mode - use SEQUENCER MODE selector to set step resolution - turn off/on again "WW" ALT = 1/4-note step = 4-bar pattern = 0.5 PPQ "Z" ORDER = 1/8-note step = 2-bar pattern = 1 PPQ "" TURN = 1/16-note step = 1-bar pattern = 2 PPQ "=>" ORDER = 1/4-note step = 4-bar pattern = 1 PPQ => CV DUTY = 1/8-note step = 2-bar pattern = 2 PPQ => CV SLIDE = 1/16-note step = 1-bar pattern = 4 PPQ

@LightIndustrialLatin 3 ай бұрын

awesome detail!!! thank you for posting

@PiesliceProductions 3 ай бұрын

sq1 works well with dfam as well. you can basically offload either pitch or velocity knobs for sq1 and use the builtin knobs to modulate something else

@BlisterHiker 8 ай бұрын

Thanks for comparison! I don't think Behringer's offer hurts Moog much. Those who can afford it and want the Moog brand, will choose Moog. Most of other people, including me, will look for less expensive alternatives. Thanks to Behringer, there are such alternatives available.

@matswessling6600 5 ай бұрын

of course it hurts moog! Stupid to say anything else.

@suga4all Жыл бұрын

Great comparison. I'd say for all intents and purposes they are identical. What a bargain the Edge is! 🔥

@LordoftheBadgers Жыл бұрын

Or is the moog overpriced? 😊

@XanderEwald Жыл бұрын

It’s not really a bargain if somebody else is paying the price, is it?

@suga4all Жыл бұрын

@@XanderEwald So, who is paying the price?

@daanleever6411 Жыл бұрын

@@suga4all Moog for developing the instrument

@suga4all Жыл бұрын

@daanleever6411 Moog didn't develop the instrument. They had an awesome idea, thats right. So kudos to Moog for being innovative, but the Edge is a complete redesign with own board, etc. So Behringer also put a ton of money into the development. To demand that nobody should produce an instrument like the DFAM is comparable to say that nobody should produce any subtractive synth, or Rhodes piano, etc. anymore. Plus, I don't believe that they both are in the same market. Moog is handmade, most likely higher quality and an original brand. People are buying the Edge because they can't afford the DFAM. And Moog fans who can afford it will still go for the original.

@Goettel Жыл бұрын

If I had a DFAM (I don't, not worth the price tag for what I do) I would jump on adding an Edge as a 'doubler' and MIDI to CV/gate converter. And as with most of the B's: I very much doubt you (I) could make great music on a DFAM if I (you) couldn't on an Edge.

@mightymightyironhead 10 ай бұрын

I was really excited when i first heard that the Edge was going to be released a while ago. But now that its available, the more video's that i see of the Edge, the more i dislike the sound that it makes. I am sure that there are plenty of people who love the sound and what the Edge does, but it just sounds like everything that it does is extremely distorted and over saturated to be useful. I am still really considering purchasing an Edge in the next couple of weeks, but i am really worried that its just not going to scratch that itch i have for randomised drums and percussion sounds.

@lordundhimself1310 8 ай бұрын

Starsky is tha GOD

@ph911 Жыл бұрын

Спасибо за это видео! Очень познавательно!

@Dogboy73 Жыл бұрын

I have a DFAM. Have to admit, not much to separate them sound wise. Not to fussed on the garish pink. Hanging for the Acid Yellow Subharmonicon clone ;-)

@bflash77 Жыл бұрын

Nope, it's red....

@yukuzoona6604 Жыл бұрын

omg how cool is that?? i was always so interested in a dfam because its just such a techno beast but so expensive... now a poor mans dfam 😍

@ericMT Жыл бұрын

This is going to be a big seller. It’s really cool, especially if you interface it with eurorack modules. Every time I see these comparison videos, I think about when the people at Behringer did the exact same thing when they were developing this. And they kept tweaking it until they sounded almost identical.

@79Glitch Жыл бұрын

Hopefully this never comes out like the UBXA and the rest of their product line that is 5 years plus overdue?

@michaelmueller9816 Жыл бұрын

@@79Glitch Comes out soon! I got mine a few days ago! I ordered another one and it should come in July.

@crnkmnky Жыл бұрын

@@79Glitch Wait, you're telling me _this one video_ suddenly turned you from defending Behringer to hoping for their downfall and the disappointment of all their global customers? 🤣 Come off it, mate.

@eyesintheskies Жыл бұрын

I think the moog filter is a bit smoother but the rest is hard to tell especially over KZfaq, but as for once it’s in a track I think anyone could be fooled either way. As for build quality well that goes to the moog but at 3 x the price that figures.

@concrete-disco 11 ай бұрын

I can't speak to the moog, but the edge is built like a tank, absolutely rock solid.

@kevinbatchelor9566 Жыл бұрын

I love the DFAM and can't wait to add a second one. The Edge sounds fine and I am sure it works well if people want to try a fun little analog percussion box like these.

@PsychologyAcademia Жыл бұрын

As they both sound exactly the same your paying for the designer label. I get that. But the niche market of designer stuff is small.

@kevinbatchelor9566 Жыл бұрын

@@PsychologyAcademia *you're certainly free to feel that way. They don't sound exactly the same, although similar and both very capable and I am sure, fun. Also, Moog comes up with original designs and employs people in Asheville, NC and that's also worth something in my opinion. Behringer waits for other people to design things and then undercuts them by manufacturing things in China. That's also fine, but it's more than just a designer label as the difference.

@imola8 Жыл бұрын

@@PsychologyAcademia if you can`t notice a difference in the sound then the edge is the instrument to go. Not saying that the edge is bad, not at all. But there is a clear difference if you listen carfully. You would probably not notice it in a full mix. However and instrument is not just about the sound, it`s about the feel when you touch it, the response, the look. The DFAM is a beautiful and unique instrument and i would buy it once again over the edge any time. Midi in on the edge is great though.

@ssl33p Жыл бұрын

The DFAM's got this oily sinister undertone that sounds like it just cant be replicated. but you gotta ask yourself if its worth that huge leap in price difference.

@rorz999 8 ай бұрын

Yep plus the Edge has midi

@davewebster689 8 ай бұрын

Oh those flashy cables are ace! What are they?

@TheIndustrialRetrospective Жыл бұрын

Hey is that the Thonk knob kit on the DFAM?

@StarskyCarr Жыл бұрын

Yes

@SynthgodXXX Жыл бұрын

I've owned a DFAM & it was awesome 👌. But the Edge is on my radar for sure! That color is super cool. Just wish more synthesizers & drum machines had cool colors like this!

@Subtronik Жыл бұрын

The color reminds me of the decadent 80’s. Love it 👍🏻

@Goettel Жыл бұрын

Hate the color, in a loving way ; - )

@StarskyCarr Жыл бұрын

Its easy to find in my handbag!

@Subtronik Жыл бұрын

@@StarskyCarr 😆

@dankeplace Жыл бұрын

@@StarskyCarr ahem, as Jerry would say, "It's not a purse! IT'S EUROPEAN!"

@Osckob 6 ай бұрын

There is many differences but its all about taste and actually i have the 2 together so they can cohabitate if i have to keep one will stay with dfam but buying a second dfam no question better to go with a edge and buy some pedals for same price 👊

@paulwhiting1731 Жыл бұрын

Just wondered if it's possible to program an accurate melody, be it only 8 notes, or are you pretty much guessing when it comes to setting the pitch knobs.

@rorz999 8 ай бұрын

Guessing

@slava.meseka Жыл бұрын

Behringer is impressive!

@LyoshaZebra Жыл бұрын

How did they manage to not add the restart CV to the sequencer? One feature that limits DFAM severely IMO.

@lurkinguy 11 ай бұрын

Uli Behringer copies, he does not know how to innovate beyond that.

@oo_iNVWSSV_oo 9 ай бұрын

@@lurkinguy midi has entered the chat.

@digo8167 Жыл бұрын

Is it just levels or did the Edge sound punchier??

@rendermanpro Жыл бұрын

Do you have a link for that lighted patch cables? What's that?

@StarskyCarr Жыл бұрын

It’s from analog solutions

@lesterfalcon1350 Жыл бұрын

Just noticed on the Andertons page, 16 voice poly chain. can you imagine playing chords on this thing with 16 chained together.

@StarskyCarr Жыл бұрын

If your speakers (and ears) could take it!

@michaels8607 Жыл бұрын

The Moog is throaty and fuller in a way. ...I am thinking though,i can get 2-3 Edges and put them together and probably head into new territory..

@elekktrikk_home_video Жыл бұрын

Can the Edge be set to other step number than 8 without any tricks?

@zzkjbry7490 11 ай бұрын

Volca price for Moog sounds, Behringer have made a winner with this synth. I have been really impressed with the quality of their instruments and how similar in sound to the originals. Thanks for a great informative vid :)

@VagPoop_ Жыл бұрын

can you midi trigger any sound in the sequence with the edge? or it only linear?

@VagPoop_ 9 ай бұрын

hello?

@antfactor Жыл бұрын

Sounds pretty damn great. Moog is great... but so is the Edge... and logos rarely impress me... 🐜

@repasiv Жыл бұрын

This convinced me that the behringer is the right choice.

@8-BitHeart79 Жыл бұрын

Tbh I think the Edge sounds a little crunchier which I like…

@semi788 Жыл бұрын

well with the price tags i would say that it is cool to have another synth in market identical (or a clone) to the dfam. having two synths with the saem workflow is better for the market anyway. edge sounds very very good.

@brmbkl Жыл бұрын

“having two synths with the saem workflow is better for the market anyway. ” not quite

@marcosrotllan 11 ай бұрын

I wish a crossover betweeng the edge and erica lxr02.... An edge with faders would be sick, any way of midi maping faders to edge? I love how it sounds

@llorenzoTV Жыл бұрын

Can the Midi in trigger the VCA and the pitch of the oscillators?

@llorenzoTV Жыл бұрын

Found myself the info: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hLelm9JqrtKnf2g.html

@baumeisterz Ай бұрын

The Edge sounds really similar. But i have to say the the filter sweeps at 4:40 sound thinner on the edge. The Moog has there a more rich bodied omph sound. At least in this presentation imho

@StarskyCarr Ай бұрын

That’ll be the Curtis vs the Moog ladder filter. Moog is renowned for sounding richer.

@synthmaven Жыл бұрын

I have a DFAM but to me the CEM filter sounds a bit - can I say it? - edgier.. 239€ at Thomann right now.. waiting to see if they will drop below 199€. Maybe sell the DFMA and get 2 Edges..

@diogen_dj Ай бұрын

Hi. Can you please provide a link where did you get knobs for dfam. Thank you

@StarskyCarr Ай бұрын

www.thonk.co.uk/shop/dfam-knob-upgrade/

@luisbarrera5740 Жыл бұрын

They sound identical minus a tinge of additional warmth that the dfam has. Not enough to justify getting it over the edge.

@cthulholmhastur5317 3 ай бұрын

This seals it for me. If my pockets were a bit deeper, I would choose the DFAM, Just because I like the big black Moog knobs lol! But the Edge has Midi, and sounds not better or worse.. just slightly different. For a third of the $? Edge wins.