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Steelcase Leap V2 Chair vs Steelcase Gesture Chair: Which is best for you?

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@btodtv
@btodtv 4 жыл бұрын
► Read The Full Leap vs. Gesture Comparison: bit.ly/2Z4TmfJ ► Read The Full Steelcase Leap Review: bit.ly/2ICAjp1 ► Read The Full Steelcase Gesture Review: bit.ly/2VxPtNV
@dundun8323
@dundun8323 4 жыл бұрын
The Leap v2 is Still The #1 Chair after over 13 years of its initial release. That speaks volumes! I own a Leap v2 and have had it for almost 2 years and it's the best investment I ever made. I am sitting most of the day due to my work and I can't stress the difference it's made for my day to day life. When it comes to your bed/pillows, your shoes and a chair you're using every single day... You need to go with comfort and quality. You use these things Every Single Day so you might as well invest the proper amount of money to help yourself.
@btodtv
@btodtv 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the feedback! - GK
@EdwardOrnelas
@EdwardOrnelas 4 жыл бұрын
OhDaughter Fan I just bought one an hour ago, I'm very excited for it to arrive. I've ran through 2 cheap office chairs and they're extremely uncomfortable, have teared, and cause me to have back pain.
@ChessBoxin
@ChessBoxin 4 жыл бұрын
Mind me asking what your weight/height is to compare? I'm looking to get the leap v2 tmrw.
@btodtv
@btodtv 4 жыл бұрын
@@ChessBoxin I am 6' tall and 190 lbs. -GK
@GSP2100
@GSP2100 Жыл бұрын
how tall and heavy are you?
@DNNomad
@DNNomad 5 жыл бұрын
Great review! I'll be going with the gesture. For anyone watching this I recommend you set the speed of the video to 1.25
@btodtv
@btodtv 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad it was helpful. The Gesture is a great chair. - GK
@richmahogany1710
@richmahogany1710 4 жыл бұрын
@@btodtv What do you guys think of the "3d knit" upholstery option for the leap? Of course they market it as "more comfort" but to me it just looks like it would be abrasive.
@lrobledo
@lrobledo 4 жыл бұрын
way ahead of you on the speed, but thanks just the same!😀
@ranjees
@ranjees 4 жыл бұрын
Thats exactly what I did even before seeing this comment😁
@givemethesantahatfoo
@givemethesantahatfoo 4 жыл бұрын
@@richmahogany1710 Did you end up going with the 3d knit option? How is it, comfort wise?
@duringtherapy
@duringtherapy 5 жыл бұрын
Guys you needed to come out 10 years ago!! I bought a Leap a month ago but your vids would've helped immensely if i saw your vids! Keep up the good work! I subscribed even though I'm not looking for a chair anymore lol
@btodtv
@btodtv 5 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the compliment! Thank you for still subscribing to our channel! - GK
@arsarnpanichkit781
@arsarnpanichkit781 Жыл бұрын
Just tried both today and I would say Gesture is more of a right fit for me. Leap has excellent lumbar support but the seat is just too soft and the backseat is too reclining. Gesture with headrest on the other hand is like one of the best chair I've tried. Wish Gesture had the lumbar support like leap, that would make a perfect chair. I'm 178 cm and 78 kg (5'10, 172 lbs).
@sittingduhk
@sittingduhk 4 жыл бұрын
I got a steelcase leap for 60 dollars at a government auction
@btodtv
@btodtv 4 жыл бұрын
Nice! If it works well, that is a diamond in the rough ;) -GK
@phototristan
@phototristan 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting that the Gesture does not have as much lower-back support because from the looks of it, it looks like it has more. I went with the Leap V2 for that reason b/c I like good lower back support.
@btodtv
@btodtv 3 жыл бұрын
The Leap v2's lumbar system is quite a bit more robust. Hopefully you enjoy your new chair! -GK
@daphnemartin9458
@daphnemartin9458 2 жыл бұрын
lumbar support has me sold on the Leap but I want a chair that with depth up to 19 in+
@LouisChiaki
@LouisChiaki 3 жыл бұрын
You should also mention the feature that the leap chair back tilt is a two stages thing, it can stay at the upright or lean back pretty easily. The change between two stages is separated by a clear static friction. So you can switch between upright or lean back effortlessly. The back stays upright, even you put your back on it. And it tilt back when you push a bit, and stay there. Also, another big difference is that when you tilt the back of Leap, the seat moves forward a bit, which makes it much more comfortable to lean back and relax. On the other hand, the seat of leap is a bit warm (perhaps the same as gesture). And, I felt the lumbar support is a bit too much. My friend sitted on one of Leap, and got lower back pain after a few minutes (He had a back injured before). The seat of the Leap is also not my favor. The lack of the support of the front portion of the seat makes me feel the seat depth is just half of it. I felt like I am only sitting on my ass.
@Armin2208
@Armin2208 3 жыл бұрын
the gesture also has this static friction feature. and it's natural for humans to sit on the ass. The gesture seat pan also gives some pressure to the thighs, but it's not the most comfortable (especially because you still feel your ass having much weight lol)
@Otic0n
@Otic0n 3 жыл бұрын
"Also, another big difference is that when you tilt the back of Leap, the seat moves forward a bit, which makes it much more comfortable to lean back and relax." This makes such a massive difference to comfortability especially when you lean back.
@justsomeguy8385
@justsomeguy8385 3 жыл бұрын
I think the Gesture looks so much nicer than the Leap, but that lumbar support on the Leap has sold me.
@WIZA327
@WIZA327 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Love the style of Gesture, but I gotta go with the Leap for functionality.
@BlakeC341
@BlakeC341 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@CH-RC
@CH-RC 3 жыл бұрын
I purchased both. In my opinion, the Gesture is too firm a chair and doesn't quite "hug" your body quite the same as the Leap. The seat especially is a bit more firm than the Leap. Overall the Leap is more comfortable & softly padded, but for me the design of the seat pan with the sort of arc from the back of the seat, to the middle which is higher, to the front, puts after long periods of time a bit of a push on the front section underneath your thighs and doesn't help with blood flow. It left me with a bit of a restless leg feeling after a couple hours. If the seat on the Leap was redesigned to be a bit flatter, or have a seat pan angle adjustment for a small amount of positive tilt, it'd be way more comfortable for a wide range of users. The recline is a bit odd on this chair. Not a fan. The Gesture, after a couple hours left me feeling like I might as well be sitting on a wooden chair. No difference in ergonomics or comfort because of the stiffness and/or lack of padding in general. Yes the armrests swivel around and are a cool design; I think the Leaps armrests are a bit softer though. For me, I tend to adjust them and leave them so the "cool factor" wears thin once you sit down to do some actual work. The Gesture could really just use a bit more of a padded back and a good amount more padding on the seat (perhaps a dual-foam setup with a thinner softer foam on top of the heavier dense foam) and it'd be a very good chair in my opinion. Looks great I must say, and the range of adjustments are nice, and the seat pan angle is a bit more open than the Leap so it's better for circulation. The Gesture does give you room to achieve different sitting positions throughout the day, while the Leap "locks you in" to more of a single seating position. The recline on the Gesture feels a bit more natural than the Leap. IMO neither of these chairs have a really nice recline, or are as good as the Herman Miller chairs. Trying the Embody next, and I have a feeling despite what BTOD says, it will score overall higher in comfort especially in the seat with the flexible seat design.
@btodtv
@btodtv 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the feedback. The biggest issue with hitting 100% of the time for comfort scores is the fact each individual is different. When we score the chairs it's based on averages across a group of users that vary is size, age and gender. While we feel the Leap v2 is best for most people, it still is most and not all. Hopefully the Embody will work for your needs! Keep us posted on your experience with that chair -GK
@anonypersona3189
@anonypersona3189 3 жыл бұрын
I'm 5'5" 140 lbs and have had the HM Embody, HM aeron Size A and B, and Leap. For me, the HM Aeron size A won out. IMO Aeron is much better than the Embody as it is specifically sized (comes in 3 sizes for a tailored fit) and has a lot more adjustability. The Embody is more of a "one size fits all."
@F15HB41T
@F15HB41T 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment, I'm glad to finally find someone that's had the same experience as me. I have a Steelcase Think, and it has a similar seat cushion with a slightly mounded shape that puts pressure on my thighs. I'm likely going to return it, and was considering a used Gesture. Did you find the same problem with the shape of the Gesture's seat, or was the problem that it was simply too firm? I really want to like this chair, but maybe Steelcase just isn't the brand for me.
@Armin2208
@Armin2208 3 жыл бұрын
@@F15HB41T it's hard to say why, but the Steelcase gesture seat pan also gives some pressure to the thighs. the seat pan in the gesture is also the number 1 drawback for me. the rest feels awesome.
@lijamesli4233
@lijamesli4233 4 жыл бұрын
thank you very much for providing such helpful information on these chairs! BRAVO!
@btodtv
@btodtv 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Thank you for watching :) -GK
@JustFluxz
@JustFluxz 3 жыл бұрын
I sat in a Gesture and a Leap for only a few minutes, but the Gesture seemed more comfortable for me but I could have been tricking myself since I really liked the shape of the chair and the adjustable armrests. I was set on getting the chair, but now I am having second thoughts because of that price tag... Steelcase is having a 15% off summer sale, so this would probably be one of the better times to get one, but the moneyyyy...
@matsudakodo
@matsudakodo 2 жыл бұрын
Did you buy one?
@JustFluxz
@JustFluxz 2 жыл бұрын
@@matsudakodo I ended up getting the Gesture. Might be my favorite thing that I own but wish the headrest was more sturdy.
@Whalester
@Whalester 2 жыл бұрын
Yall have saved me so much time, Thank you!
@johnmcclung4736
@johnmcclung4736 4 жыл бұрын
Is a headrest a really good thing to have? I'm kind of wanting the Gesture, the headrest option looks useful and comfy. I'm 5'9", 160 lbs. Working from home. Thanks for advice, BTOD. Great videos, really appreciate your thorough reviews and great production value!
@AYust22
@AYust22 4 жыл бұрын
You can add a headrest to the Leap
@oldtwinsna8347
@oldtwinsna8347 3 жыл бұрын
You'll know if you need a headrest - these are folks with constant neck and shoulder pain, perhaps resulting from other injuries. Else, the rest of the population it is more of a luxury than necessity.
@PaulDickson7
@PaulDickson7 2 ай бұрын
Tried the leap for a week. Had lower back pain. Removed the lumbar, was usable. Swapped it for the Gesture a week later, lower back now aches and hard to sit in the Gesture for longer than 30 minutes. I can't win. Not sure what was worse the leap or the gesture.
@btodtv
@btodtv 2 ай бұрын
What did you sit in before? If it was something that promoted bad posture you are working through bad habits and that can be a longer process -Greg
@Jbiglin
@Jbiglin 4 жыл бұрын
Nice job! Learned a lot, thanks!
@fredastaire6156
@fredastaire6156 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this! I think ultimately I’m going to go with the Leap chair to compliment my vert desk 🙂
@btodtv
@btodtv 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Let us know how you like it! I personally sit in a Leap chair every day! -TK
@jamesthompson7282
@jamesthompson7282 3 жыл бұрын
Great review & terrific channel: this guy does an excellent job. That said, the comments provide useful info since everyone is different & notices different stuff. I tried both chairs, plus the best from Hermann Miller. Initially bought the Aeron; took it back for the Leap 2. Aeron: surprising fail The Aeron Chair at Miller is a work of art: breath-takingly beautiful. You WANT to use it. And it screams "I have too much money!" so if you're looking for conspicuous consumption & drive a Ferrari, this is your chair. Great to sit in, for 10 min. Cool mesh too. Here's the rub: no headrest, OK back support but not for everyone, rigid ridge under the front of your legs that totally kills it & can't be fixed with adjustments (the rigid frame is required to hold the mesh). I have circulation probs w my legs so perhaps I'm more sensitive to this, but I had to return the chair. Embody by Miller wasn't better in any significant way. Wow: I was surprised. Miller makes much of the fact an Aeron lives in the Museum of Modern Art in NYC: good place for it; people can look at it & no one's allowed to sit on display items. Steelcase Gesture & Leap 2: both great, Leap better Gesture by Steelcase was really comfortable & I can see it being so for long periods, if the back support works for you. No ridge under your legs with either Steelcase chair. Tilt mechanism is great but the Leap 2 is better. Back support is good with both, but Leap 2 was better. Regardless, 6 months later with the Leap I do find I occasionally drag out the Obusforme I use on the couch (note though that the slot between seat & back makes this a poor combo - Obusforme keeps dropping), so I wish I could increase the lumbar curve more. Still, back support is better than either Miller chair for me. Note: lumbar support improved with the upgrade from older Leap to the newer Leap 2: you'll feel quite a difference. The engineers reworked the design to significant effect. I liked Steelcase cushioning & fabric better than anyone else. The fabric will wear well, is cleanable. Auto manufacturers should pay attention. Not so cool as the mesh on the Aeron: loved Aeron's mesh, if not the rest of that chair. But the fabric Leap is good enough; miles ahead of everyone else. If you don't have air conditioning consider the Aeron or other mesh competitors. Be warned: the whole mesh thing is REALLY difficult to pull off, not an engineering no-brainer. Creating a support system & finding mesh that will give but not stretch over time, won't fray & wear over time, obviously difficult. I've used lots of mesh chairs that have sagged, worn & frayed. OTOH, you can buy 4 of Staple's alternative for the cost of one Aeron, but that does seem wasteful. Tilt on Steelcase Tilt on both is great but slightly better on the Leap 2. Headrest is definitely available for the Leap (certainly 3rd party supply; perhaps Steelcase too); not sure about the Gesture (suspect not). The sliding pan works well, lumbar support remains with tilt. Tilt adjusts for range/depth of motion as well as stiffness, so you can dial in resistance to the lean back, especially on the Leap 2. This makes a surprising ergonomic difference. Arm Adjustment I loved the Gesture's huge range of motion on the arms, but still liked the overall experience more on the slightly less expensive Leap 2. The Gesture's arms look fancier: an engineering marvel. But the overall effect in seating isn't much different from that of the Leap 2, which provides pretty much the same range of adjustment up/down & in/out without all the wiz-bang engineering. Leap 2 uses a more traditional post w sliding armrest, but does it better than anyone. In this case execution on the Leap 2 beats innovation on the Gesture. Playing Guitar Something no-one has addressed: both Gesture & Leap make sitting cross-legged (any variation) possible & comfortable. And I play guitar, usually on a stool so there are no arms in the way. Playing guitar in either chair is COMFORTABLE. The arms on both get out of the way sufficiently that I don't worry about damaging the guitar.
@artistryartistry7239
@artistryartistry7239 3 жыл бұрын
Most excellent write up. Thank you! Taking your advice on the leap!
@phobiedufromage2433
@phobiedufromage2433 3 жыл бұрын
@@artistryartistry7239 what chairs are you looking for
@ssranon
@ssranon 2 жыл бұрын
Agree on Leap vs Aeron. I had a Herman Miller Aeron at a previous company and thought it was "just okay", i..e, incredibly overrated and overpriced. In contrast, the Leap I was given at my next company was SOOOO much better than the HM that I actually bought a similar Leap for home office use with my own money.
@StardustLegacyFighter
@StardustLegacyFighter 2 жыл бұрын
Steelcase doesn't offer a 5 year warranty in a lot of countries anymore lol, that's speaks volumes about their lack of quality. Comfort is extremely subjective, more people do find the Leap V2 and Gesture comfortable, but there are still plenty of folks that find mesh chairs more comfortable.
@mathewthomas3359
@mathewthomas3359 4 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for the video! Is the design drawback mentioned at 09:20 true for all the gesture chairs or was it an issue only with your chair? I am asking this because, I was also looking at gesture's review by other users and no one mentioned regarding that design drawback.
@daluven
@daluven 3 жыл бұрын
true for all gesture chairs
@nickycat101
@nickycat101 3 жыл бұрын
You've convinced me to buy a steelcase over a herman miller (mostly because I'll get what I need for a lower price). Thank you for the great video.
@jason200912
@jason200912 2 жыл бұрын
Herman millers have worse leg positioning and weaker back support
@stanleyl.9026
@stanleyl.9026 3 ай бұрын
What color is the gesture?
@magnusred2945
@magnusred2945 2 жыл бұрын
WHICH ONE SHOULD I BUY?
@btodtv
@btodtv 2 жыл бұрын
The Leap IMO :) -GK
@tonezou3918
@tonezou3918 2 жыл бұрын
Steelcase chairs 5y warranty for Europe is absolute joke. Any suggestions for A/S tier chairs with 12y warranty for Europe? Harman Miller? Which one (with good headrest)? I hope such a chair exists :(
@thestormlscoming
@thestormlscoming 3 жыл бұрын
My office had the Gesture and I liked it but I’m wondering if Leap is better for me. So hard to decide. I wish I could remember that chair better
@btodtv
@btodtv 3 жыл бұрын
We personally prefer the Leap in our office. We have a few Gestures, but they are rarely used outside the conference room. The Leap chairs are being used by many -GK
@thestormlscoming
@thestormlscoming 3 жыл бұрын
@@btodtv the only thing that makes me a bit wary about the leap is the shape of the seat - it seems too curved and like it might be worse for my posture. Thoughts?
@btodtv
@btodtv 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure about bad for posture, but some just don’t like the seat pad shape. The Gesture abs Amia are better for those who like a flat seat design -GK
@andsur7351
@andsur7351 2 жыл бұрын
Does the leap has more cushion on the seat? If so, is it significant? I have the gesture but find it a bit too stiff for me. It’s only for a few weeks. Normally, will people get used to it?
@dolyharianto
@dolyharianto 3 жыл бұрын
how do these chairs fare in hot weather? I finally will have a chance to try out both gesture and leap but in crazy humid weather, I'd probably have to go with either aeron or mirra 2. I wouldn't want my sweat to get into the foam daily.
@oldtwinsna8347
@oldtwinsna8347 3 жыл бұрын
Mesh chairs generally better for usage in non-air conditioned environments. Just make sure you're comfortable with mesh, some folks can't get used to the surface comfort.
@dolyharianto
@dolyharianto 3 жыл бұрын
@@oldtwinsna8347 I got the Leap in the end. There's no beating the comfort, sure it's sweaty and sticky sometimes but it's a lot more comfortable than Mirra 2 or even Aeron.
@ImSiggi
@ImSiggi Жыл бұрын
does the leap actually have more seath depth ? cuz when i look at 7:14 in the video, it looks very much like the gesture has more seat depth but online it says gesture = 18 1/4"" and leap = 18 3/4"
@NguyenTuan-zt4pg
@NguyenTuan-zt4pg 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks you for your video I am hesitating whether I should buy Gestures or Leap. I am 1m68 tall (5.5ft). Is Leap chair right for me?
@btodtv
@btodtv 5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! I think both would fit you well. I personally prefer the Leap. - GK
@NguyenTuan-zt4pg
@NguyenTuan-zt4pg 5 жыл бұрын
@@btodtv My legs are a bit short. Is Leap's seat pan fit for short leg people?
@btodtv
@btodtv 5 жыл бұрын
The seat depth adjusts from 15.75" to 18.75". I would measure your current setup to see what is most comfortable for you. We have users in the office that are 5'3" sitting comfortably in the Leap. - GK
@NguyenTuan-zt4pg
@NguyenTuan-zt4pg 5 жыл бұрын
@@btodtv thank you for your information I had gone to a showroom to try two chairs and found Leap is more comfortable. I just wondered if Leap's seat pan is suitable for 5'6" height and short legs like me.
@waheedo2635
@waheedo2635 3 жыл бұрын
@@NguyenTuan-zt4pg So you just grew an inch between posts ?
@adrianaranda6989
@adrianaranda6989 2 жыл бұрын
What's your opinion on Series 2 with headrest vs Gesture?
@btodtv
@btodtv 2 жыл бұрын
The Series 2 has a REALLY firm seat. I can’t use it. The Gesture’s headrest is better as well -GK
@JohnSmith-bn7bl
@JohnSmith-bn7bl 4 жыл бұрын
i also hear that the hard floor castors are better on the carpet than the dedicated carpet castors for these chairs ?...
@alfredolozano4365
@alfredolozano4365 4 жыл бұрын
Which chair is better for a larger guy that plans to use the chair for long video game sessions?
@btodtv
@btodtv 4 жыл бұрын
Larger in what sense? Height, width and/or weight? -GK
@alfredolozano4365
@alfredolozano4365 4 жыл бұрын
@@btodtv I mean weight, thank you for replying.
@DanneoYT
@DanneoYT 3 жыл бұрын
I have both!
@btodtv
@btodtv 3 жыл бұрын
Dang!! -GK
@slide-show-sista
@slide-show-sista 2 жыл бұрын
What is the weight of each chair?
@thinphalla731
@thinphalla731 3 жыл бұрын
How much chair?
@yzhu
@yzhu 4 жыл бұрын
great reaview! leap v2 seems to have a higher back than Aeron, does that provide a better comfort? I have a old leap v1 the only thing I feel I dislike is the back is too low
@eazy6037
@eazy6037 4 жыл бұрын
Just bought a used one and it's killing my lower back personally...
@Pairstore
@Pairstore 3 жыл бұрын
@@eazy6037 which one of them?
@StardustLegacyFighter
@StardustLegacyFighter 2 жыл бұрын
@@Pairstore Leap v2
@zzDeVastate21
@zzDeVastate21 4 жыл бұрын
what is the exact color on the red chair? Cause all their red options on the site look nothing like that. Their preview images are horrible
@btodtv
@btodtv 4 жыл бұрын
The color on our Leap chair is: Buzz2 - Rouge (5G57) -RB
@zzDeVastate21
@zzDeVastate21 4 жыл бұрын
BTOD.com Thank you!
@BloodiestMargie
@BloodiestMargie 6 ай бұрын
that hole between the seat and the backrest in the Leap bothers me, aesthetically
@JohnSmith-bn7bl
@JohnSmith-bn7bl 4 жыл бұрын
i hear the leap is better for taller people, around 6 6" .. is this correct?
@sdemosi
@sdemosi 4 жыл бұрын
The Leap feels like it has more pronounced lumbar support. It's obvious the moment you sit in the chair. I'm not 6"6 so I can't say whether either is uncomfortable when you get to that size. I'm just over 6"1 and 220LB. My inseam is 33 inches so my core is actually quite big. I love both these chairs and most people would be delighted with either. My brother is 6"3 and around 250lb and he thinks both are great too.
@JohnSmith-bn7bl
@JohnSmith-bn7bl 4 жыл бұрын
@@sdemosi thanks. and appreciated. the leaps curved nature of its seat and back looks very comfortable.,
@sdemosi
@sdemosi 4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSmith-bn7bl John Smith it is. If you want or need a headrest then I'd get the Gesture with headrest model. Otherwise I'd get the Leap v2. I acquired one from a company that went bust. They'd bought it new about 1.5 years ago and so it was lightly used. It was supposed to be a home office chair as I'd moved a HM Embody home from the office for remote work. I've moved the Embody back to the office and I'm still working from home. I rate the Leap very highly. It feels like it could get warm but apart from that it's brilliantly comfortable. The lumbar support might take some getting used to if you haven't been sitting on an ergonomic chair but I doubt anyone regrets buying either Steelcase product. They're big chairs BTW. Bigger than an Aeron.
@JohnSmith-bn7bl
@JohnSmith-bn7bl 4 жыл бұрын
@@sdemosi dont really need the headrest. ive just ordered from a local distributor, a leap v2. the rep. did say id have more room on the leap than the gesture. no doubt the gesture looks better ... but im in this for comfort.
@richmahogany1710
@richmahogany1710 4 жыл бұрын
@@sdemosi why the gesture for headrest? just because it's more adjustable? as far as the actual positioning, ergonomics, and comfort of the headrest they are about the same aren't they? i just want to be sure that the headrest will only be engaged when i lean back and not when im sitting upright.
@mertsenin
@mertsenin 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you✨
@btodtv
@btodtv 4 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching! -GK
@StardustLegacyFighter
@StardustLegacyFighter 2 жыл бұрын
These chairs are 100% not worth buying brand new anymore, because Steelcase no longer covers the full chair for 12 years. I genuinely can't believe Steelcase decided to cheap out with the warranty, despite maintaining that high price tag. Buying a refurbished one is probably the way to go atm.
@btodtv
@btodtv 2 жыл бұрын
Just to be clear, in North America they still provide the same warranty -GK
@StardustLegacyFighter
@StardustLegacyFighter 2 жыл бұрын
@@btodtv Yeah, and that's a big problem with Steelcase atm. They're essentially sticking it to the rest of the world, unless you're a business customer. For me and most others looking to buy a brand new chair, Herman Miller is the clear choice, providing I like mesh chairs. I've always wanted the Embody, but they only sell the really expensive gaming version in the UK.
@dynasty1910
@dynasty1910 Жыл бұрын
Does the leap chair keep your back in an upright position? I need lower lumbar support but I want the chair to keep me upright, especially when performing tasks like typing or writing at the table. Thanks
@kasalica85
@kasalica85 Жыл бұрын
I would say yes, but it seems it is not fully fixed, so there is 1-2 cm you can always tilt
@dwights1024
@dwights1024 3 жыл бұрын
I have the leap v1 and it's been great. Would you recommend me upgrading to the v2? They feel quite similar other than the slightly higher back and the 4 way adjustable arms.
@Nigel__
@Nigel__ 3 жыл бұрын
The V2 has slightly less padding on the seat than the V1. So that’s something to consider.
@jamesthompson7282
@jamesthompson7282 3 жыл бұрын
Leap 2 has better back support. Sliding arms mechanism looks more normal: post with sliding arm pads, vs the adjustable swing arms of the Gesture. The effect for the user, though, is pretty similar. I play a guitar & want to drop the arms out of the way as much as possible so I don't damage the guitar. The Leap 2 works for this; Gesture would too. Tilt options & support are better on the Leap 2. I liked the Gesture; love the Leap 2. Try both if you can; if you're ordering from a distance IMO most people would prefer the Leap 2. Upgrade from the Leap 1? If you live in it all day, I would consider it. Back support is better. You might try dropping an ObusForme support over it, but the slot between seat & back support makes this a bit problematic: the ObusForme keeps dropping. Unlike most office chairs you can probably sell the Leap on Kijiji or Craig's List etc. Steelcase & Miller chairs are so well made there's a secondary market, & brand recognition helps keep the 2nd-hand price higher. Most anything else is yard sale fodder, but you'll get something for you Leap to defray the upgrade cost. Detail it first so it's pristine.
@jason200912
@jason200912 2 жыл бұрын
V2 covers more of your back
@joseroblesv
@joseroblesv 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! I got the Gesture but I have felt a lot of neck tension when letting my arms rest on the armrest, why can this be caused? I was offered the option to change for a Leap v2 to see if it is a better fit for me. What do you suggest?
@btodtv
@btodtv 3 жыл бұрын
Hi! You can usually experience neck pain depending on how you have your armrests set. The best way to sit is to have your arms bent at a 90 degree angle and at your sides. If your arms are sitting too far out from your sides, and elbows sitting too low or too high, you will experience tension in your neck. Hope this helps! -TK
@MsBezen
@MsBezen Жыл бұрын
Actually i just tested the Gesture today and i really must say i never had a worse seating experience... I dont know exactly what it is but i wasnt just feeling it. The seat cushion was way too soft imo, i had a feeling i was sitting on the plastic. The armrests are nice and fun but since they are THAT movable its almost impossible to get them on the same height which would be bad for posture. On the backrest i felt almost no lumbar support and overall i instantly felt uncomfortable in this chair. I really dont know how to think about it now because its such an expensive chair and i expected much more.
@sizzlechestmcmurphy4365
@sizzlechestmcmurphy4365 4 жыл бұрын
I just bought a Gesture today. I have to wait a week for it to be delivered. I asked the saleswoman to check to make sure that the hardwood casters were what I was getting. She told me that the casters it comes with are fine for carpet and hardwood. By looking at the Steelcase website, I can see the options available. Is the saleswoman correct or does she just not know what she's talking about?
@btodtv
@btodtv 4 жыл бұрын
Hardwood or hard surface casters have a soft material wrapped around the wheel to help roll better on the surface and protect the floors. There is a difference -GK
@Nigel__
@Nigel__ 3 жыл бұрын
Hello, do you like the gesture?
@keishabarwise4208
@keishabarwise4208 3 жыл бұрын
How tall is Greg?
@btodtv
@btodtv 3 жыл бұрын
I am 6 feet tall -GK
@keishabarwise4208
@keishabarwise4208 3 жыл бұрын
@@btodtv lol thanks I was just looking at you sitting in the chair and looking at where your shoulders lined up with the top of the chair for comparison 👍
@MixingGBP
@MixingGBP 4 жыл бұрын
I want to use one of these chairs in a music studio to play guitar. It is important that the arms can drop very low to the ground so that my forearms and elbows do not hit the arms. Then I'll raise the arms to do office work. Would the either of these chairs be able to do this?
@btodtv
@btodtv 4 жыл бұрын
I just put the Leap and Gesture next to each other and the Leaps arms go slightly lower than the Gesture in respect to the seats. If you would like to see the full range of adjustability of the arms for these two chairs, check out our blog posts linked above for the chair reviews. - RG
@ChessBoxin
@ChessBoxin 4 жыл бұрын
Looking to get one used from a warehouse tmrw. I'm about 5'6 185lbs. Between the Steelcase think, leap v2, and gesture which is best? I have aerons at my work and i tend to sit at the very front of my chair and get annoyed by sitting in them.
@btodtv
@btodtv 4 жыл бұрын
Which is the best will definitely be a personal preference. I personally prefer the Leap v2 and that is the general consensus in our office as well. Good luck in your search! -GK
@Ashurus
@Ashurus 5 жыл бұрын
Is the higher lumbar support rating on the Leap solely because the lumbar support firmness knob?
@btodtv
@btodtv 5 жыл бұрын
The Leap provided overall better support throughout the entire backrest. The Gesture's adjustable lumber isn't as noticeable as the Leap, which can be a good or bad thing, depending on your requirements. - GK
@Ashurus
@Ashurus 5 жыл бұрын
@@btodtv Could you please provide more details? I can't decide between these two chairs!
@headshrink1
@headshrink1 3 жыл бұрын
Great review. Presentation style is great. The music needs changing. Question: by looking at the two chairs would not the Leap be better for those with coccydynia? It’s a pretty big deal with sedentary workers. Thanks, Patrick
@Nemanjab604
@Nemanjab604 4 жыл бұрын
Any Fern Chair review any time soon? :)
@btodtv
@btodtv 4 жыл бұрын
No immediate plans to review that chair, but from our short experience with it we felt it was a nice chair. We plan to bring in additional Steelcase and Herman Miller chairs over the next two months -GK
@jason200912
@jason200912 2 жыл бұрын
Leap V2 is better for long term sitting
@JoonKimDMD
@JoonKimDMD 4 жыл бұрын
I had a chance to try both of these chairs. Leap V2 had more dip on the seat which felt more natural to my butt, but Gesture was more comfortable, Interesting~. And My back loved gesture backrest. I thought it was perfect so I can't complain about the lumbar support. My pick is Gesture over Leap V2, but I may still go with X2 from X chair.
@Armin2208
@Armin2208 3 жыл бұрын
did you tried the gesture with or without the additional adjustable lumbar support?
@JoonKimDMD
@JoonKimDMD 3 жыл бұрын
@@Armin2208 Yes, I prefer the adjustable lumbar support. Once you set it to you liking, you will not use it again, but you need it :)
@ordaniel7699
@ordaniel7699 2 жыл бұрын
May I ask what is your height? I tend to think Gesture is more comfortable for taller people than the Leap, and vice versa.
@goral9033
@goral9033 4 жыл бұрын
Can I order without armrests and buy some later?
@btodtv
@btodtv 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I believe you can. You will want to make sure to check with the vendor you end up buying the chair from. I would suggest getting them right away though - Gk
@phobiedufromage2433
@phobiedufromage2433 3 жыл бұрын
Can you add headrest later when you bought those chairs without it?
@btodtv
@btodtv 3 жыл бұрын
Not from Steelcase. You may find an aftermarket product available, but they do not connect the same way as an original Leap v2 headrest will -GK
@phobiedufromage2433
@phobiedufromage2433 3 жыл бұрын
@@btodtv Oh ok thanks for the answer and what about the optional lumbar support for the gesture chair?
@Shawizzlegaming
@Shawizzlegaming 3 жыл бұрын
I am 5'6 and 175 pounds. I need a really short chair. Do you believe the Leap V2 can get low enough?
@btodtv
@btodtv 3 жыл бұрын
The Leap v2 has a minimum seat height of 15.5 inches, which will be plenty low enough for someone who is 5'6". It is ranked #1 on our list of chairs for short or petite users. Thanks for watching! -RG
@Shawizzlegaming
@Shawizzlegaming 3 жыл бұрын
@@btodtv Thank you !! Is there an ETA when you guys will have some in stock ?
@xueqinghuang6615
@xueqinghuang6615 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, Leap V2 can get low enough for your height.
@au_ole8165
@au_ole8165 4 жыл бұрын
Could you review Spina chair from Japan, please? Steelcase leap v.1 vs spina
@itsrecordingman
@itsrecordingman 3 жыл бұрын
watch this at 2x speed people
@FeroxWJB
@FeroxWJB 3 жыл бұрын
How tall is the person in the video? (Gives me an idea how large the chair is)
@btodtv
@btodtv 3 жыл бұрын
6’ tall -GK
@ankit3774
@ankit3774 5 жыл бұрын
how can i get this in INDIA?
@btodtv
@btodtv 5 жыл бұрын
Steelcase is a global company. I would reach out to their India team to find out who has it available in your area. Phone: +91 80 45656600 - GK
@ankita_156
@ankita_156 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Ankit you can get it in Gozefo but they are refurbished or used one's but still you can purchase coz the original cost will be around 70k and in gozefo its just 14k
@sam5605
@sam5605 3 жыл бұрын
Do you sell the chair international?
@StardustLegacyFighter
@StardustLegacyFighter 2 жыл бұрын
They don't, but trust me it's not worth buying in internationally atm.
@DiamondQ8
@DiamondQ8 5 жыл бұрын
But what about the neck area. I have a neck and upper back area pain. So ive watched this video and the herman miller vid . Which one is better for this cause ive seen that the herman miller aeron has some upgrades for the neck. I sit so long on my chair. Thank you for the content uve helped alot .
@btodtv
@btodtv 5 жыл бұрын
That can be tough to diagnose without sitting in each of the chairs. If you're looking for something with neck support, the Leap and Gesture chairs have an optional headrest. This will provide some additional support for your neck. - GK
@TheAjdebezi
@TheAjdebezi 5 жыл бұрын
You don't need a headrest(unless medically indicated). I bought a Steelcase Leap V2 chair WITHOUT a headrest. My neck and my back pain is gone. The head will naturally follow the rest of the spine. Headrests are only truly supportive when you are working in a reclined position. While they may be medically indicated for those with specific diagnoses, they are not essential features for most individuals’ daily task chair. It is important that you are sitting in an ergonomic chair, and that you know how to properly use the features on your chair.
@btodtv
@btodtv 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your feedback! Glad to hear you’re enjoying the Steelcase Leap. - GK
@Centrioless
@Centrioless 5 жыл бұрын
I think this problem mostly happen when your monitor is set up too high or low from your viewing angle.
@thegiantratthatmakesalloft9415
@thegiantratthatmakesalloft9415 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheAjdebezi try adding reams of paper
@undercrownhiphop9422
@undercrownhiphop9422 3 жыл бұрын
Do these generate heat and get hot?
@btodtv
@btodtv 3 жыл бұрын
Not any more than a normal office chair -GK
@Cam-uf9ke
@Cam-uf9ke 3 жыл бұрын
Should i get leather? The fabric seems like it would snag in a year.
@hellschatt
@hellschatt 3 жыл бұрын
leather will be hotter, and is imo not as comfortable as fabric. Fabric is better most of the time for such chairs imo.
@xueqinghuang6615
@xueqinghuang6615 3 жыл бұрын
No, fabric doe snot snag in a year. Bought mine 2nd hand few years ago, still not snag. Leather is more expensive and hotter, probably less comfortable. Go for Fabric is my suggestion.
@thethirdgeneration1738
@thethirdgeneration1738 3 жыл бұрын
he didn't make clear whether or not the 12 yr warranty covered the "Cylinder or not ?"
@btodtv
@btodtv 3 жыл бұрын
It does -GK
@bruisedbug
@bruisedbug Жыл бұрын
2:30 jesus christ im so jealous that this exists in other countries
@blakemayer9643
@blakemayer9643 3 жыл бұрын
Hi - how long would it take to get a Steelcase Gesture shipped to me?
@DyneGadante
@DyneGadante 3 жыл бұрын
Are they supposed to guess where you live?
@HeIifano
@HeIifano 5 жыл бұрын
I understand the need to make videos last 10 minutes, but you should really speak a little faster. Just discovered the channel and looking forward to some of your latest videos!
@MrSocietygangrape
@MrSocietygangrape 5 жыл бұрын
playback speed is ur friend
@pappyodanial
@pappyodanial 5 жыл бұрын
His meter is fine. Why are you in such a rush? You're sitting at a computer. Are you watching seat reviews while making a souffle
@KEWONZOR
@KEWONZOR 5 жыл бұрын
The slow talking def dragged on this vid
@TaylorMMontgomery
@TaylorMMontgomery 3 жыл бұрын
Can y'all please move on from the 2014 girly vlog background music lol
@btodtv
@btodtv 3 жыл бұрын
We are super into that vibe though 🤷 -GK
@doubledutch3439
@doubledutch3439 4 жыл бұрын
They are both worthless, because you can't buy them anywhere.
@iBlindPanic
@iBlindPanic 4 жыл бұрын
Double Dutch you can get them on some german websites, but you have to send them a mail first .
@bogdanarabadzhiev4525
@bogdanarabadzhiev4525 3 жыл бұрын
1000 dollars for a chair That's ridiculous Why don't you buy a gaming chair for one forth the price
@btodtv
@btodtv 3 жыл бұрын
Because you'll get 1/4 the chair and keep 100% of the back pain ;) -GK
@geralt36
@geralt36 3 жыл бұрын
I own a $400+ gaming chair and it can't be more uncomfortable. My back cries every day. If you're someone who spends most of your day working at a desk and want to sit comfortably with proper posture then it might be worth it to invest in a proper chair. Plus, these top chair companies provide more than a decade of warranty.
@incyphe
@incyphe 3 жыл бұрын
I used to think the same, until I ordered Leap. I wish I had bought it sooner.
@StardustLegacyFighter
@StardustLegacyFighter 2 жыл бұрын
It's funny how Steelcase's warranty for their chairs in the UK is equivalent to what most high end gaming chair brands offer, only 5 years. 🤦
@JoopEee
@JoopEee 4 жыл бұрын
6 minutes into this video and you're basically still talking about things that are the same for both...
@btodtv
@btodtv 4 жыл бұрын
They have quite a few similarities, but there are also plenty of differences. Hopefully the last eight minutes provided what you needed to make an informed decision. - GK
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