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@dundun83234 жыл бұрын
The Leap v2 is Still The #1 Chair after over 13 years of its initial release. That speaks volumes! I own a Leap v2 and have had it for almost 2 years and it's the best investment I ever made. I am sitting most of the day due to my work and I can't stress the difference it's made for my day to day life. When it comes to your bed/pillows, your shoes and a chair you're using every single day... You need to go with comfort and quality. You use these things Every Single Day so you might as well invest the proper amount of money to help yourself.
@btodtv4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the feedback! - GK
@EdwardOrnelas4 жыл бұрын
OhDaughter Fan I just bought one an hour ago, I'm very excited for it to arrive. I've ran through 2 cheap office chairs and they're extremely uncomfortable, have teared, and cause me to have back pain.
@ChessBoxin4 жыл бұрын
Mind me asking what your weight/height is to compare? I'm looking to get the leap v2 tmrw.
@btodtv4 жыл бұрын
@@ChessBoxin I am 6' tall and 190 lbs. -GK
@GSP2100 Жыл бұрын
how tall and heavy are you?
@DNNomad5 жыл бұрын
Great review! I'll be going with the gesture. For anyone watching this I recommend you set the speed of the video to 1.25
@btodtv5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Glad it was helpful. The Gesture is a great chair. - GK
@richmahogany17104 жыл бұрын
@@btodtv What do you guys think of the "3d knit" upholstery option for the leap? Of course they market it as "more comfort" but to me it just looks like it would be abrasive.
@lrobledo4 жыл бұрын
way ahead of you on the speed, but thanks just the same!😀
@ranjees4 жыл бұрын
Thats exactly what I did even before seeing this comment😁
@givemethesantahatfoo4 жыл бұрын
@@richmahogany1710 Did you end up going with the 3d knit option? How is it, comfort wise?
@duringtherapy5 жыл бұрын
Guys you needed to come out 10 years ago!! I bought a Leap a month ago but your vids would've helped immensely if i saw your vids! Keep up the good work! I subscribed even though I'm not looking for a chair anymore lol
@btodtv5 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the compliment! Thank you for still subscribing to our channel! - GK
@arsarnpanichkit781 Жыл бұрын
Just tried both today and I would say Gesture is more of a right fit for me. Leap has excellent lumbar support but the seat is just too soft and the backseat is too reclining. Gesture with headrest on the other hand is like one of the best chair I've tried. Wish Gesture had the lumbar support like leap, that would make a perfect chair. I'm 178 cm and 78 kg (5'10, 172 lbs).
@sittingduhk4 жыл бұрын
I got a steelcase leap for 60 dollars at a government auction
@btodtv4 жыл бұрын
Nice! If it works well, that is a diamond in the rough ;) -GK
@phototristan3 жыл бұрын
Interesting that the Gesture does not have as much lower-back support because from the looks of it, it looks like it has more. I went with the Leap V2 for that reason b/c I like good lower back support.
@btodtv3 жыл бұрын
The Leap v2's lumbar system is quite a bit more robust. Hopefully you enjoy your new chair! -GK
@daphnemartin94582 жыл бұрын
lumbar support has me sold on the Leap but I want a chair that with depth up to 19 in+
@LouisChiaki3 жыл бұрын
You should also mention the feature that the leap chair back tilt is a two stages thing, it can stay at the upright or lean back pretty easily. The change between two stages is separated by a clear static friction. So you can switch between upright or lean back effortlessly. The back stays upright, even you put your back on it. And it tilt back when you push a bit, and stay there. Also, another big difference is that when you tilt the back of Leap, the seat moves forward a bit, which makes it much more comfortable to lean back and relax. On the other hand, the seat of leap is a bit warm (perhaps the same as gesture). And, I felt the lumbar support is a bit too much. My friend sitted on one of Leap, and got lower back pain after a few minutes (He had a back injured before). The seat of the Leap is also not my favor. The lack of the support of the front portion of the seat makes me feel the seat depth is just half of it. I felt like I am only sitting on my ass.
@Armin22083 жыл бұрын
the gesture also has this static friction feature. and it's natural for humans to sit on the ass. The gesture seat pan also gives some pressure to the thighs, but it's not the most comfortable (especially because you still feel your ass having much weight lol)
@Otic0n3 жыл бұрын
"Also, another big difference is that when you tilt the back of Leap, the seat moves forward a bit, which makes it much more comfortable to lean back and relax." This makes such a massive difference to comfortability especially when you lean back.
@justsomeguy83853 жыл бұрын
I think the Gesture looks so much nicer than the Leap, but that lumbar support on the Leap has sold me.
@WIZA3273 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Love the style of Gesture, but I gotta go with the Leap for functionality.
@BlakeC3412 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@CH-RC3 жыл бұрын
I purchased both. In my opinion, the Gesture is too firm a chair and doesn't quite "hug" your body quite the same as the Leap. The seat especially is a bit more firm than the Leap. Overall the Leap is more comfortable & softly padded, but for me the design of the seat pan with the sort of arc from the back of the seat, to the middle which is higher, to the front, puts after long periods of time a bit of a push on the front section underneath your thighs and doesn't help with blood flow. It left me with a bit of a restless leg feeling after a couple hours. If the seat on the Leap was redesigned to be a bit flatter, or have a seat pan angle adjustment for a small amount of positive tilt, it'd be way more comfortable for a wide range of users. The recline is a bit odd on this chair. Not a fan. The Gesture, after a couple hours left me feeling like I might as well be sitting on a wooden chair. No difference in ergonomics or comfort because of the stiffness and/or lack of padding in general. Yes the armrests swivel around and are a cool design; I think the Leaps armrests are a bit softer though. For me, I tend to adjust them and leave them so the "cool factor" wears thin once you sit down to do some actual work. The Gesture could really just use a bit more of a padded back and a good amount more padding on the seat (perhaps a dual-foam setup with a thinner softer foam on top of the heavier dense foam) and it'd be a very good chair in my opinion. Looks great I must say, and the range of adjustments are nice, and the seat pan angle is a bit more open than the Leap so it's better for circulation. The Gesture does give you room to achieve different sitting positions throughout the day, while the Leap "locks you in" to more of a single seating position. The recline on the Gesture feels a bit more natural than the Leap. IMO neither of these chairs have a really nice recline, or are as good as the Herman Miller chairs. Trying the Embody next, and I have a feeling despite what BTOD says, it will score overall higher in comfort especially in the seat with the flexible seat design.
@btodtv3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the feedback. The biggest issue with hitting 100% of the time for comfort scores is the fact each individual is different. When we score the chairs it's based on averages across a group of users that vary is size, age and gender. While we feel the Leap v2 is best for most people, it still is most and not all. Hopefully the Embody will work for your needs! Keep us posted on your experience with that chair -GK
@anonypersona31893 жыл бұрын
I'm 5'5" 140 lbs and have had the HM Embody, HM aeron Size A and B, and Leap. For me, the HM Aeron size A won out. IMO Aeron is much better than the Embody as it is specifically sized (comes in 3 sizes for a tailored fit) and has a lot more adjustability. The Embody is more of a "one size fits all."
@F15HB41T3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your comment, I'm glad to finally find someone that's had the same experience as me. I have a Steelcase Think, and it has a similar seat cushion with a slightly mounded shape that puts pressure on my thighs. I'm likely going to return it, and was considering a used Gesture. Did you find the same problem with the shape of the Gesture's seat, or was the problem that it was simply too firm? I really want to like this chair, but maybe Steelcase just isn't the brand for me.
@Armin22083 жыл бұрын
@@F15HB41T it's hard to say why, but the Steelcase gesture seat pan also gives some pressure to the thighs. the seat pan in the gesture is also the number 1 drawback for me. the rest feels awesome.
@lijamesli42334 жыл бұрын
thank you very much for providing such helpful information on these chairs! BRAVO!
@btodtv4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! Thank you for watching :) -GK
@JustFluxz3 жыл бұрын
I sat in a Gesture and a Leap for only a few minutes, but the Gesture seemed more comfortable for me but I could have been tricking myself since I really liked the shape of the chair and the adjustable armrests. I was set on getting the chair, but now I am having second thoughts because of that price tag... Steelcase is having a 15% off summer sale, so this would probably be one of the better times to get one, but the moneyyyy...
@matsudakodo2 жыл бұрын
Did you buy one?
@JustFluxz2 жыл бұрын
@@matsudakodo I ended up getting the Gesture. Might be my favorite thing that I own but wish the headrest was more sturdy.
@Whalester2 жыл бұрын
Yall have saved me so much time, Thank you!
@johnmcclung47364 жыл бұрын
Is a headrest a really good thing to have? I'm kind of wanting the Gesture, the headrest option looks useful and comfy. I'm 5'9", 160 lbs. Working from home. Thanks for advice, BTOD. Great videos, really appreciate your thorough reviews and great production value!
@AYust224 жыл бұрын
You can add a headrest to the Leap
@oldtwinsna83473 жыл бұрын
You'll know if you need a headrest - these are folks with constant neck and shoulder pain, perhaps resulting from other injuries. Else, the rest of the population it is more of a luxury than necessity.
@PaulDickson72 ай бұрын
Tried the leap for a week. Had lower back pain. Removed the lumbar, was usable. Swapped it for the Gesture a week later, lower back now aches and hard to sit in the Gesture for longer than 30 minutes. I can't win. Not sure what was worse the leap or the gesture.
@btodtv2 ай бұрын
What did you sit in before? If it was something that promoted bad posture you are working through bad habits and that can be a longer process -Greg
@Jbiglin4 жыл бұрын
Nice job! Learned a lot, thanks!
@fredastaire61563 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this! I think ultimately I’m going to go with the Leap chair to compliment my vert desk 🙂
@btodtv3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Let us know how you like it! I personally sit in a Leap chair every day! -TK
@jamesthompson72823 жыл бұрын
Great review & terrific channel: this guy does an excellent job. That said, the comments provide useful info since everyone is different & notices different stuff. I tried both chairs, plus the best from Hermann Miller. Initially bought the Aeron; took it back for the Leap 2. Aeron: surprising fail The Aeron Chair at Miller is a work of art: breath-takingly beautiful. You WANT to use it. And it screams "I have too much money!" so if you're looking for conspicuous consumption & drive a Ferrari, this is your chair. Great to sit in, for 10 min. Cool mesh too. Here's the rub: no headrest, OK back support but not for everyone, rigid ridge under the front of your legs that totally kills it & can't be fixed with adjustments (the rigid frame is required to hold the mesh). I have circulation probs w my legs so perhaps I'm more sensitive to this, but I had to return the chair. Embody by Miller wasn't better in any significant way. Wow: I was surprised. Miller makes much of the fact an Aeron lives in the Museum of Modern Art in NYC: good place for it; people can look at it & no one's allowed to sit on display items. Steelcase Gesture & Leap 2: both great, Leap better Gesture by Steelcase was really comfortable & I can see it being so for long periods, if the back support works for you. No ridge under your legs with either Steelcase chair. Tilt mechanism is great but the Leap 2 is better. Back support is good with both, but Leap 2 was better. Regardless, 6 months later with the Leap I do find I occasionally drag out the Obusforme I use on the couch (note though that the slot between seat & back makes this a poor combo - Obusforme keeps dropping), so I wish I could increase the lumbar curve more. Still, back support is better than either Miller chair for me. Note: lumbar support improved with the upgrade from older Leap to the newer Leap 2: you'll feel quite a difference. The engineers reworked the design to significant effect. I liked Steelcase cushioning & fabric better than anyone else. The fabric will wear well, is cleanable. Auto manufacturers should pay attention. Not so cool as the mesh on the Aeron: loved Aeron's mesh, if not the rest of that chair. But the fabric Leap is good enough; miles ahead of everyone else. If you don't have air conditioning consider the Aeron or other mesh competitors. Be warned: the whole mesh thing is REALLY difficult to pull off, not an engineering no-brainer. Creating a support system & finding mesh that will give but not stretch over time, won't fray & wear over time, obviously difficult. I've used lots of mesh chairs that have sagged, worn & frayed. OTOH, you can buy 4 of Staple's alternative for the cost of one Aeron, but that does seem wasteful. Tilt on Steelcase Tilt on both is great but slightly better on the Leap 2. Headrest is definitely available for the Leap (certainly 3rd party supply; perhaps Steelcase too); not sure about the Gesture (suspect not). The sliding pan works well, lumbar support remains with tilt. Tilt adjusts for range/depth of motion as well as stiffness, so you can dial in resistance to the lean back, especially on the Leap 2. This makes a surprising ergonomic difference. Arm Adjustment I loved the Gesture's huge range of motion on the arms, but still liked the overall experience more on the slightly less expensive Leap 2. The Gesture's arms look fancier: an engineering marvel. But the overall effect in seating isn't much different from that of the Leap 2, which provides pretty much the same range of adjustment up/down & in/out without all the wiz-bang engineering. Leap 2 uses a more traditional post w sliding armrest, but does it better than anyone. In this case execution on the Leap 2 beats innovation on the Gesture. Playing Guitar Something no-one has addressed: both Gesture & Leap make sitting cross-legged (any variation) possible & comfortable. And I play guitar, usually on a stool so there are no arms in the way. Playing guitar in either chair is COMFORTABLE. The arms on both get out of the way sufficiently that I don't worry about damaging the guitar.
@artistryartistry72393 жыл бұрын
Most excellent write up. Thank you! Taking your advice on the leap!
@phobiedufromage24333 жыл бұрын
@@artistryartistry7239 what chairs are you looking for
@ssranon2 жыл бұрын
Agree on Leap vs Aeron. I had a Herman Miller Aeron at a previous company and thought it was "just okay", i..e, incredibly overrated and overpriced. In contrast, the Leap I was given at my next company was SOOOO much better than the HM that I actually bought a similar Leap for home office use with my own money.
@StardustLegacyFighter2 жыл бұрын
Steelcase doesn't offer a 5 year warranty in a lot of countries anymore lol, that's speaks volumes about their lack of quality. Comfort is extremely subjective, more people do find the Leap V2 and Gesture comfortable, but there are still plenty of folks that find mesh chairs more comfortable.
@mathewthomas33594 жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for the video! Is the design drawback mentioned at 09:20 true for all the gesture chairs or was it an issue only with your chair? I am asking this because, I was also looking at gesture's review by other users and no one mentioned regarding that design drawback.
@daluven3 жыл бұрын
true for all gesture chairs
@nickycat1013 жыл бұрын
You've convinced me to buy a steelcase over a herman miller (mostly because I'll get what I need for a lower price). Thank you for the great video.
@jason2009122 жыл бұрын
Herman millers have worse leg positioning and weaker back support
@stanleyl.90263 ай бұрын
What color is the gesture?
@magnusred29452 жыл бұрын
WHICH ONE SHOULD I BUY?
@btodtv2 жыл бұрын
The Leap IMO :) -GK
@tonezou39182 жыл бұрын
Steelcase chairs 5y warranty for Europe is absolute joke. Any suggestions for A/S tier chairs with 12y warranty for Europe? Harman Miller? Which one (with good headrest)? I hope such a chair exists :(
@thestormlscoming3 жыл бұрын
My office had the Gesture and I liked it but I’m wondering if Leap is better for me. So hard to decide. I wish I could remember that chair better
@btodtv3 жыл бұрын
We personally prefer the Leap in our office. We have a few Gestures, but they are rarely used outside the conference room. The Leap chairs are being used by many -GK
@thestormlscoming3 жыл бұрын
@@btodtv the only thing that makes me a bit wary about the leap is the shape of the seat - it seems too curved and like it might be worse for my posture. Thoughts?
@btodtv3 жыл бұрын
Not sure about bad for posture, but some just don’t like the seat pad shape. The Gesture abs Amia are better for those who like a flat seat design -GK
@andsur73512 жыл бұрын
Does the leap has more cushion on the seat? If so, is it significant? I have the gesture but find it a bit too stiff for me. It’s only for a few weeks. Normally, will people get used to it?
@dolyharianto3 жыл бұрын
how do these chairs fare in hot weather? I finally will have a chance to try out both gesture and leap but in crazy humid weather, I'd probably have to go with either aeron or mirra 2. I wouldn't want my sweat to get into the foam daily.
@oldtwinsna83473 жыл бұрын
Mesh chairs generally better for usage in non-air conditioned environments. Just make sure you're comfortable with mesh, some folks can't get used to the surface comfort.
@dolyharianto3 жыл бұрын
@@oldtwinsna8347 I got the Leap in the end. There's no beating the comfort, sure it's sweaty and sticky sometimes but it's a lot more comfortable than Mirra 2 or even Aeron.
@ImSiggi Жыл бұрын
does the leap actually have more seath depth ? cuz when i look at 7:14 in the video, it looks very much like the gesture has more seat depth but online it says gesture = 18 1/4"" and leap = 18 3/4"
@NguyenTuan-zt4pg5 жыл бұрын
Thanks you for your video I am hesitating whether I should buy Gestures or Leap. I am 1m68 tall (5.5ft). Is Leap chair right for me?
@btodtv5 жыл бұрын
You're welcome! I think both would fit you well. I personally prefer the Leap. - GK
@NguyenTuan-zt4pg5 жыл бұрын
@@btodtv My legs are a bit short. Is Leap's seat pan fit for short leg people?
@btodtv5 жыл бұрын
The seat depth adjusts from 15.75" to 18.75". I would measure your current setup to see what is most comfortable for you. We have users in the office that are 5'3" sitting comfortably in the Leap. - GK
@NguyenTuan-zt4pg5 жыл бұрын
@@btodtv thank you for your information I had gone to a showroom to try two chairs and found Leap is more comfortable. I just wondered if Leap's seat pan is suitable for 5'6" height and short legs like me.
@waheedo26353 жыл бұрын
@@NguyenTuan-zt4pg So you just grew an inch between posts ?
@adrianaranda69892 жыл бұрын
What's your opinion on Series 2 with headrest vs Gesture?
@btodtv2 жыл бұрын
The Series 2 has a REALLY firm seat. I can’t use it. The Gesture’s headrest is better as well -GK
@JohnSmith-bn7bl4 жыл бұрын
i also hear that the hard floor castors are better on the carpet than the dedicated carpet castors for these chairs ?...
@alfredolozano43654 жыл бұрын
Which chair is better for a larger guy that plans to use the chair for long video game sessions?
@btodtv4 жыл бұрын
Larger in what sense? Height, width and/or weight? -GK
@alfredolozano43654 жыл бұрын
@@btodtv I mean weight, thank you for replying.
@DanneoYT3 жыл бұрын
I have both!
@btodtv3 жыл бұрын
Dang!! -GK
@slide-show-sista2 жыл бұрын
What is the weight of each chair?
@thinphalla7313 жыл бұрын
How much chair?
@yzhu4 жыл бұрын
great reaview! leap v2 seems to have a higher back than Aeron, does that provide a better comfort? I have a old leap v1 the only thing I feel I dislike is the back is too low
@eazy60374 жыл бұрын
Just bought a used one and it's killing my lower back personally...
@Pairstore3 жыл бұрын
@@eazy6037 which one of them?
@StardustLegacyFighter2 жыл бұрын
@@Pairstore Leap v2
@zzDeVastate214 жыл бұрын
what is the exact color on the red chair? Cause all their red options on the site look nothing like that. Their preview images are horrible
@btodtv4 жыл бұрын
The color on our Leap chair is: Buzz2 - Rouge (5G57) -RB
@zzDeVastate214 жыл бұрын
BTOD.com Thank you!
@BloodiestMargie6 ай бұрын
that hole between the seat and the backrest in the Leap bothers me, aesthetically
@JohnSmith-bn7bl4 жыл бұрын
i hear the leap is better for taller people, around 6 6" .. is this correct?
@sdemosi4 жыл бұрын
The Leap feels like it has more pronounced lumbar support. It's obvious the moment you sit in the chair. I'm not 6"6 so I can't say whether either is uncomfortable when you get to that size. I'm just over 6"1 and 220LB. My inseam is 33 inches so my core is actually quite big. I love both these chairs and most people would be delighted with either. My brother is 6"3 and around 250lb and he thinks both are great too.
@JohnSmith-bn7bl4 жыл бұрын
@@sdemosi thanks. and appreciated. the leaps curved nature of its seat and back looks very comfortable.,
@sdemosi4 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSmith-bn7bl John Smith it is. If you want or need a headrest then I'd get the Gesture with headrest model. Otherwise I'd get the Leap v2. I acquired one from a company that went bust. They'd bought it new about 1.5 years ago and so it was lightly used. It was supposed to be a home office chair as I'd moved a HM Embody home from the office for remote work. I've moved the Embody back to the office and I'm still working from home. I rate the Leap very highly. It feels like it could get warm but apart from that it's brilliantly comfortable. The lumbar support might take some getting used to if you haven't been sitting on an ergonomic chair but I doubt anyone regrets buying either Steelcase product. They're big chairs BTW. Bigger than an Aeron.
@JohnSmith-bn7bl4 жыл бұрын
@@sdemosi dont really need the headrest. ive just ordered from a local distributor, a leap v2. the rep. did say id have more room on the leap than the gesture. no doubt the gesture looks better ... but im in this for comfort.
@richmahogany17104 жыл бұрын
@@sdemosi why the gesture for headrest? just because it's more adjustable? as far as the actual positioning, ergonomics, and comfort of the headrest they are about the same aren't they? i just want to be sure that the headrest will only be engaged when i lean back and not when im sitting upright.
@mertsenin4 жыл бұрын
Thank you✨
@btodtv4 жыл бұрын
You’re welcome. Thanks for watching! -GK
@StardustLegacyFighter2 жыл бұрын
These chairs are 100% not worth buying brand new anymore, because Steelcase no longer covers the full chair for 12 years. I genuinely can't believe Steelcase decided to cheap out with the warranty, despite maintaining that high price tag. Buying a refurbished one is probably the way to go atm.
@btodtv2 жыл бұрын
Just to be clear, in North America they still provide the same warranty -GK
@StardustLegacyFighter2 жыл бұрын
@@btodtv Yeah, and that's a big problem with Steelcase atm. They're essentially sticking it to the rest of the world, unless you're a business customer. For me and most others looking to buy a brand new chair, Herman Miller is the clear choice, providing I like mesh chairs. I've always wanted the Embody, but they only sell the really expensive gaming version in the UK.
@dynasty1910 Жыл бұрын
Does the leap chair keep your back in an upright position? I need lower lumbar support but I want the chair to keep me upright, especially when performing tasks like typing or writing at the table. Thanks
@kasalica85 Жыл бұрын
I would say yes, but it seems it is not fully fixed, so there is 1-2 cm you can always tilt
@dwights10243 жыл бұрын
I have the leap v1 and it's been great. Would you recommend me upgrading to the v2? They feel quite similar other than the slightly higher back and the 4 way adjustable arms.
@Nigel__3 жыл бұрын
The V2 has slightly less padding on the seat than the V1. So that’s something to consider.
@jamesthompson72823 жыл бұрын
Leap 2 has better back support. Sliding arms mechanism looks more normal: post with sliding arm pads, vs the adjustable swing arms of the Gesture. The effect for the user, though, is pretty similar. I play a guitar & want to drop the arms out of the way as much as possible so I don't damage the guitar. The Leap 2 works for this; Gesture would too. Tilt options & support are better on the Leap 2. I liked the Gesture; love the Leap 2. Try both if you can; if you're ordering from a distance IMO most people would prefer the Leap 2. Upgrade from the Leap 1? If you live in it all day, I would consider it. Back support is better. You might try dropping an ObusForme support over it, but the slot between seat & back support makes this a bit problematic: the ObusForme keeps dropping. Unlike most office chairs you can probably sell the Leap on Kijiji or Craig's List etc. Steelcase & Miller chairs are so well made there's a secondary market, & brand recognition helps keep the 2nd-hand price higher. Most anything else is yard sale fodder, but you'll get something for you Leap to defray the upgrade cost. Detail it first so it's pristine.
@jason2009122 жыл бұрын
V2 covers more of your back
@joseroblesv3 жыл бұрын
Hi! I got the Gesture but I have felt a lot of neck tension when letting my arms rest on the armrest, why can this be caused? I was offered the option to change for a Leap v2 to see if it is a better fit for me. What do you suggest?
@btodtv3 жыл бұрын
Hi! You can usually experience neck pain depending on how you have your armrests set. The best way to sit is to have your arms bent at a 90 degree angle and at your sides. If your arms are sitting too far out from your sides, and elbows sitting too low or too high, you will experience tension in your neck. Hope this helps! -TK
@MsBezen Жыл бұрын
Actually i just tested the Gesture today and i really must say i never had a worse seating experience... I dont know exactly what it is but i wasnt just feeling it. The seat cushion was way too soft imo, i had a feeling i was sitting on the plastic. The armrests are nice and fun but since they are THAT movable its almost impossible to get them on the same height which would be bad for posture. On the backrest i felt almost no lumbar support and overall i instantly felt uncomfortable in this chair. I really dont know how to think about it now because its such an expensive chair and i expected much more.
@sizzlechestmcmurphy43654 жыл бұрын
I just bought a Gesture today. I have to wait a week for it to be delivered. I asked the saleswoman to check to make sure that the hardwood casters were what I was getting. She told me that the casters it comes with are fine for carpet and hardwood. By looking at the Steelcase website, I can see the options available. Is the saleswoman correct or does she just not know what she's talking about?
@btodtv4 жыл бұрын
Hardwood or hard surface casters have a soft material wrapped around the wheel to help roll better on the surface and protect the floors. There is a difference -GK
@Nigel__3 жыл бұрын
Hello, do you like the gesture?
@keishabarwise42083 жыл бұрын
How tall is Greg?
@btodtv3 жыл бұрын
I am 6 feet tall -GK
@keishabarwise42083 жыл бұрын
@@btodtv lol thanks I was just looking at you sitting in the chair and looking at where your shoulders lined up with the top of the chair for comparison 👍
@MixingGBP4 жыл бұрын
I want to use one of these chairs in a music studio to play guitar. It is important that the arms can drop very low to the ground so that my forearms and elbows do not hit the arms. Then I'll raise the arms to do office work. Would the either of these chairs be able to do this?
@btodtv4 жыл бұрын
I just put the Leap and Gesture next to each other and the Leaps arms go slightly lower than the Gesture in respect to the seats. If you would like to see the full range of adjustability of the arms for these two chairs, check out our blog posts linked above for the chair reviews. - RG
@ChessBoxin4 жыл бұрын
Looking to get one used from a warehouse tmrw. I'm about 5'6 185lbs. Between the Steelcase think, leap v2, and gesture which is best? I have aerons at my work and i tend to sit at the very front of my chair and get annoyed by sitting in them.
@btodtv4 жыл бұрын
Which is the best will definitely be a personal preference. I personally prefer the Leap v2 and that is the general consensus in our office as well. Good luck in your search! -GK
@Ashurus5 жыл бұрын
Is the higher lumbar support rating on the Leap solely because the lumbar support firmness knob?
@btodtv5 жыл бұрын
The Leap provided overall better support throughout the entire backrest. The Gesture's adjustable lumber isn't as noticeable as the Leap, which can be a good or bad thing, depending on your requirements. - GK
@Ashurus5 жыл бұрын
@@btodtv Could you please provide more details? I can't decide between these two chairs!
@headshrink13 жыл бұрын
Great review. Presentation style is great. The music needs changing. Question: by looking at the two chairs would not the Leap be better for those with coccydynia? It’s a pretty big deal with sedentary workers. Thanks, Patrick
@Nemanjab6044 жыл бұрын
Any Fern Chair review any time soon? :)
@btodtv4 жыл бұрын
No immediate plans to review that chair, but from our short experience with it we felt it was a nice chair. We plan to bring in additional Steelcase and Herman Miller chairs over the next two months -GK
@jason2009122 жыл бұрын
Leap V2 is better for long term sitting
@JoonKimDMD4 жыл бұрын
I had a chance to try both of these chairs. Leap V2 had more dip on the seat which felt more natural to my butt, but Gesture was more comfortable, Interesting~. And My back loved gesture backrest. I thought it was perfect so I can't complain about the lumbar support. My pick is Gesture over Leap V2, but I may still go with X2 from X chair.
@Armin22083 жыл бұрын
did you tried the gesture with or without the additional adjustable lumbar support?
@JoonKimDMD3 жыл бұрын
@@Armin2208 Yes, I prefer the adjustable lumbar support. Once you set it to you liking, you will not use it again, but you need it :)
@ordaniel76992 жыл бұрын
May I ask what is your height? I tend to think Gesture is more comfortable for taller people than the Leap, and vice versa.
@goral90334 жыл бұрын
Can I order without armrests and buy some later?
@btodtv4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I believe you can. You will want to make sure to check with the vendor you end up buying the chair from. I would suggest getting them right away though - Gk
@phobiedufromage24333 жыл бұрын
Can you add headrest later when you bought those chairs without it?
@btodtv3 жыл бұрын
Not from Steelcase. You may find an aftermarket product available, but they do not connect the same way as an original Leap v2 headrest will -GK
@phobiedufromage24333 жыл бұрын
@@btodtv Oh ok thanks for the answer and what about the optional lumbar support for the gesture chair?
@Shawizzlegaming3 жыл бұрын
I am 5'6 and 175 pounds. I need a really short chair. Do you believe the Leap V2 can get low enough?
@btodtv3 жыл бұрын
The Leap v2 has a minimum seat height of 15.5 inches, which will be plenty low enough for someone who is 5'6". It is ranked #1 on our list of chairs for short or petite users. Thanks for watching! -RG
@Shawizzlegaming3 жыл бұрын
@@btodtv Thank you !! Is there an ETA when you guys will have some in stock ?
@xueqinghuang66153 жыл бұрын
Yes, Leap V2 can get low enough for your height.
@au_ole81654 жыл бұрын
Could you review Spina chair from Japan, please? Steelcase leap v.1 vs spina
@itsrecordingman3 жыл бұрын
watch this at 2x speed people
@FeroxWJB3 жыл бұрын
How tall is the person in the video? (Gives me an idea how large the chair is)
@btodtv3 жыл бұрын
6’ tall -GK
@ankit37745 жыл бұрын
how can i get this in INDIA?
@btodtv5 жыл бұрын
Steelcase is a global company. I would reach out to their India team to find out who has it available in your area. Phone: +91 80 45656600 - GK
@ankita_1564 жыл бұрын
Hey Ankit you can get it in Gozefo but they are refurbished or used one's but still you can purchase coz the original cost will be around 70k and in gozefo its just 14k
@sam56053 жыл бұрын
Do you sell the chair international?
@StardustLegacyFighter2 жыл бұрын
They don't, but trust me it's not worth buying in internationally atm.
@DiamondQ85 жыл бұрын
But what about the neck area. I have a neck and upper back area pain. So ive watched this video and the herman miller vid . Which one is better for this cause ive seen that the herman miller aeron has some upgrades for the neck. I sit so long on my chair. Thank you for the content uve helped alot .
@btodtv5 жыл бұрын
That can be tough to diagnose without sitting in each of the chairs. If you're looking for something with neck support, the Leap and Gesture chairs have an optional headrest. This will provide some additional support for your neck. - GK
@TheAjdebezi5 жыл бұрын
You don't need a headrest(unless medically indicated). I bought a Steelcase Leap V2 chair WITHOUT a headrest. My neck and my back pain is gone. The head will naturally follow the rest of the spine. Headrests are only truly supportive when you are working in a reclined position. While they may be medically indicated for those with specific diagnoses, they are not essential features for most individuals’ daily task chair. It is important that you are sitting in an ergonomic chair, and that you know how to properly use the features on your chair.
@btodtv5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your feedback! Glad to hear you’re enjoying the Steelcase Leap. - GK
@Centrioless5 жыл бұрын
I think this problem mostly happen when your monitor is set up too high or low from your viewing angle.
@thegiantratthatmakesalloft94154 жыл бұрын
@@TheAjdebezi try adding reams of paper
@undercrownhiphop94223 жыл бұрын
Do these generate heat and get hot?
@btodtv3 жыл бұрын
Not any more than a normal office chair -GK
@Cam-uf9ke3 жыл бұрын
Should i get leather? The fabric seems like it would snag in a year.
@hellschatt3 жыл бұрын
leather will be hotter, and is imo not as comfortable as fabric. Fabric is better most of the time for such chairs imo.
@xueqinghuang66153 жыл бұрын
No, fabric doe snot snag in a year. Bought mine 2nd hand few years ago, still not snag. Leather is more expensive and hotter, probably less comfortable. Go for Fabric is my suggestion.
@thethirdgeneration17383 жыл бұрын
he didn't make clear whether or not the 12 yr warranty covered the "Cylinder or not ?"
@btodtv3 жыл бұрын
It does -GK
@bruisedbug Жыл бұрын
2:30 jesus christ im so jealous that this exists in other countries
@blakemayer96433 жыл бұрын
Hi - how long would it take to get a Steelcase Gesture shipped to me?
@DyneGadante3 жыл бұрын
Are they supposed to guess where you live?
@HeIifano5 жыл бұрын
I understand the need to make videos last 10 minutes, but you should really speak a little faster. Just discovered the channel and looking forward to some of your latest videos!
@MrSocietygangrape5 жыл бұрын
playback speed is ur friend
@pappyodanial5 жыл бұрын
His meter is fine. Why are you in such a rush? You're sitting at a computer. Are you watching seat reviews while making a souffle
@KEWONZOR5 жыл бұрын
The slow talking def dragged on this vid
@TaylorMMontgomery3 жыл бұрын
Can y'all please move on from the 2014 girly vlog background music lol
@btodtv3 жыл бұрын
We are super into that vibe though 🤷 -GK
@doubledutch34394 жыл бұрын
They are both worthless, because you can't buy them anywhere.
@iBlindPanic4 жыл бұрын
Double Dutch you can get them on some german websites, but you have to send them a mail first .
@bogdanarabadzhiev45253 жыл бұрын
1000 dollars for a chair That's ridiculous Why don't you buy a gaming chair for one forth the price
@btodtv3 жыл бұрын
Because you'll get 1/4 the chair and keep 100% of the back pain ;) -GK
@geralt363 жыл бұрын
I own a $400+ gaming chair and it can't be more uncomfortable. My back cries every day. If you're someone who spends most of your day working at a desk and want to sit comfortably with proper posture then it might be worth it to invest in a proper chair. Plus, these top chair companies provide more than a decade of warranty.
@incyphe3 жыл бұрын
I used to think the same, until I ordered Leap. I wish I had bought it sooner.
@StardustLegacyFighter2 жыл бұрын
It's funny how Steelcase's warranty for their chairs in the UK is equivalent to what most high end gaming chair brands offer, only 5 years. 🤦
@JoopEee4 жыл бұрын
6 minutes into this video and you're basically still talking about things that are the same for both...
@btodtv4 жыл бұрын
They have quite a few similarities, but there are also plenty of differences. Hopefully the last eight minutes provided what you needed to make an informed decision. - GK