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Steering a Motorcycle for Performance

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StumanRides

StumanRides

Күн бұрын

Taking about how to steer a motorcycle for performance riding. Some different ways you can steer a motorcycle. The effect of weighting the pegs vs moving your upperbody vs counter steering.

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@tylindsey19
@tylindsey19 Жыл бұрын
Stumbled onto your video on transitions and have watched several other videos as well. I've got to thank you for the way you present things, as you make your points very clear and easy to understand for a novice track day rider. Thanks for such great videos and subbed!
@vijayam1
@vijayam1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you is an understatement. Always quality and insightful content. Thanks again Stu.
@stumanrides
@stumanrides Жыл бұрын
Glad you like the vid!
@motorcycleupholstery3063
@motorcycleupholstery3063 Жыл бұрын
Thankful to see new videos. loved watching the experimental video snips instead of just talking about body or peg weight you have great action videos.
@stumanrides
@stumanrides Жыл бұрын
I had a good time filming that stuff and experimenting.
@wadeblake3451
@wadeblake3451 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting discussion and perspective. Much appreciated.
@stumanrides
@stumanrides Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Glad you found it interesting!
@gazeepthesheep
@gazeepthesheep Жыл бұрын
So glad I found this channel
@mikejingle1197
@mikejingle1197 11 ай бұрын
great vido very well explaned thank you very much one of the best and very clear
@timbermudez7292
@timbermudez7292 Жыл бұрын
Always enjoy your input Stu! Thank you! Looking forward to the next one.
@stumanrides
@stumanrides Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@williejansevanrensburg1219
@williejansevanrensburg1219 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Stu! Very helpful info as always. Looking forward to the next one.
@gtrpimp76
@gtrpimp76 Жыл бұрын
T5!! I’ve always wondered how that turn CCW was handled. I was using 2 steering inputs: 1 for initial and the 2nd to adjust my line to compensate for the decrease in radius. I can’t wait to come back to Chuck and try 1 steering input and then “body English it” to hit the apex at the radius decrease.
@stumanrides
@stumanrides Жыл бұрын
I hope it works for you!
@archiewilson4943
@archiewilson4943 Жыл бұрын
I love that kind of thing in the beginning. Just jump on a bike and experiment. Pramac put out some videos where they just showed a front tire , with a good rider, so you could see where the front wheel was pointing going around the track. I was shocked how short the time was in counter steering. It spent most of the time tracking like a car tire (almost sort of). I experimented by taking my hands off the bar (millimeters) right before the apex and was stunned how the bike turned in tighter. It was so dramatic I had to be careful not to run off to the inside. It showed me I literally do not understand how all this stuff really works.
@stumanrides
@stumanrides Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it was interesting to go out on the runway and experiment with the bike. I was actually pretty surprised by some of the things I learned doing that. Steering seems like a really simple subject, but there is a bit more to it than you might think.
@davidnoob9421
@davidnoob9421 Жыл бұрын
such great knowledge, im fortunate to be able to learn this from across the continent!! wish I could get some live coaching from you
@RANhxcCORE
@RANhxcCORE 3 ай бұрын
this is mind blowing
@ridewitg
@ridewitg Жыл бұрын
Great video as always
@stumanrides
@stumanrides Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I'm glad you like it.
@ColinNoneYa
@ColinNoneYa Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the lesson.
@capedolphin
@capedolphin Жыл бұрын
When you demonstrate standing on one peg, you must remember it has no effect because the force from your centre of mass acts downward through the centre of mass of the motorcycle.If you lean your body to the outside while standing on the peg it will because there is now a turning moment.
@stumanrides
@stumanrides Жыл бұрын
I agree completely. I think a really interesting experiment would be to stand on the right peg with one foot and then try to lean your body to the left. I would assume that the bike would lean to the left even though all your weight would be on your right foot.
@capedolphin
@capedolphin Жыл бұрын
@@stumanrides kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b6unZst4rNG0ZmQ.html this will show you what you can do by control of your centre of gravity in relation to the motorcycle centre of gravity.
@Bullet62013
@Bullet62013 Жыл бұрын
No input after the apex or Ghost hands as I was told especially at full lean angles.
@RideLikeAChamp
@RideLikeAChamp 5 ай бұрын
I like watching your training videos to improve riding skills. I really struggle to make a smooth right hand corner , primarily due to the fact I don't feel that my butt is moving over smoothly to the right before I initiate the lean , kind of get into an awkward angle which even does not allow my upper body and head fall over for the smooth turn mid corner. I don't feel any of these when I take left turns. I am really struggling so I would appreciate it if you could help me fix this
@stumanrides
@stumanrides 5 ай бұрын
It would be really hard to fix your issue without going much deeper and maybe seeing you ride in person. I would suggest getting some coaching from a school like the California Superbike School or some private coaching from a reputable coach at a track day.
@jwdiho
@jwdiho 4 ай бұрын
Question on brakes and steering for corners requiring quicker input. In the video you mention being more careful carrying brakes into these corners vs corners that require slower steering input. Seems like you would LIKE to use the favorable geometry on the brakes in corners that require harder countersteering input. Or is the risk more than the benefit? Am i making sense?
@stumanrides
@stumanrides 4 ай бұрын
It is simple when you steer the bike, you use up some amount of the available front traction. When you steer the bike aggressively (quickly) you use more of the available traction than when you steer it more slowly. When you use the front brake you are using some amount of the available traction as well. If you brake hard you use more traction, brake lass and you use less traction. If you are going to turn the bike aggressively then you will be using more of the available traction for steering and there is less available for braking. If you turn the bike slowly, then there is more traction available for braking. I'm not saying you can't use any brake when you are steering aggressively, just that you should use less.
@jwdiho
@jwdiho 4 ай бұрын
@@stumanrides thanks! I wasn't questioning your statements, I just thought fast people like you and racers tended to exploit braking geometry changes more in the tighter corners than in more gradual corners. I'm still learning to apply this at the track so just wanted to get some idea. I get the idea of 100points of grip, though.
@stumanrides
@stumanrides 4 ай бұрын
@@jwdiho I don't mind if people question my statements, I think it makes for a good discussion. One thing to consider about braking that many don't, when you brake hard, the motorcycle is more difficult to steer. The more front brake you have on, the more counter-steering force will be required to turn the bike. If you have less front brake the bike will require less countersteering force to steer. So if you want the bike to turn quickly with a little less force, you use less brake.
@jwdiho
@jwdiho 4 ай бұрын
@@stumanrides see that's the exact opposite of what I thought was the case having not exploited trail braking much. I thought the harder you brake, the easier the bike was to turn... there must obviously be a point of diminishing returns or even worse, hindering your turn in
@stumanrides
@stumanrides 3 ай бұрын
@@jwdiho Try it for yourself sometime, preferably on a track. Go into a corner at a speed that is pretty easy for you and brake lightly while steering the bike. Notice how much effort (how hard you have to push on the bar) it takes to make the bike turn. Then go into that same corner and brake harder while trying to turn in, notice how much effort it takes to turn the bike while braking harder. Braking does change the geometry of the bike, but the forces acting on the front tire's contact patch also have a big effect on how easy it is to turn the bike.
@gabefern3414
@gabefern3414 Жыл бұрын
if i ever want to increase lean angle, do i continue adding more pressure on the handle bar and hold the pressure for a longer period of time, to allow it to lean more?
@ucvu3288
@ucvu3288 Жыл бұрын
While the handlebars leaned into turn. Its hard to pushing forward. Feeling pushing downward than forward. How to solve this?
@stumanrides
@stumanrides Жыл бұрын
Maybe you can try to lower your elbows down some to make it easier to push forward?
@ucvu3288
@ucvu3288 Жыл бұрын
@@stumanrides thanks u sir. I have tried its work like charm.
@a.p.3167
@a.p.3167 10 ай бұрын
Can we counter steering in to a high speed corner with trail brake?
@stumanrides
@stumanrides 10 ай бұрын
Yes, of you are trail braking you might not want to steer as quickly, but you can still counter steer.
@a.p.3167
@a.p.3167 10 ай бұрын
@@stumanrides thanks of your advise. I watched all your videos, they're so helpful, especially you can always use the simple way to tell the difficult technic. Can' t hold to want you next video.
@samboles3670
@samboles3670 Жыл бұрын
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