Wow, the Strange New Worlds producers listened to you really quick

Klingon honour is like Vulcan logic. Suspiciously flexible.

Gowron was so shocked by Quark's marriage to Grilka that his eyes went all sane for a moment.

I can't believe that you skipped over Quark's most epic of verbal burns: "I am Quark, son of Keldar, and I have come to answer the challenge of D'Ghor, son of... whatever."

Kor, as far as feeling represented as a trans woman, you cannot beat "Oh Curzon, my beloved old friend...." " I'm Jadzia now" " Oh well, Jadzia, my beloved old friend!" . Still brings tears to my eyes.

Your Gowron impressions are a work of art

Haha, Steve, I love you Gowron impressions. Particularly, "bringing down a great house by fucking with its money"

I really like JG Hertzler added the line "Unfortunately, my father did not live to see that day." and that he chose not to sing at the end. It really justifies Martok having all this venom for Kor

Re: Martok and Sirella Recall that in TNG, Worf describes how during courtship, the woman screams and hurls heavy objects, while the man reads love poetry, and ducks a lot. It makes sense to me that Klingon men are almost universally attracted to women who display physical prowess, and/or some kind of aggression.

Less than two minutes in and we've had a jab at Voyager... just need Picard, Enterprise, Picard and Picard for Bingo.

This is my head cannon about why the three original series Klingon are best friends. In there careers they were all assigned to patrol/operate in the same sector of space where they all had run ins with Kirk. While patrolling said section of spaces they were each others backup and gained a respect for each other and became a strong unit of brother Captains.

The Klingon Chef is such a great background character, and you can see a lot about him though just his unspoken actions. My favorite is one point you can see him playing the according while singing to his patrons. I always imagine all Klingons have the same thoughts about what they do as the warriors do. The Lawyers and Scientists, Chefs and Gardeners dedicate them in bringing honour and glory to their houses through their accomplishments. Their society values martial powerness but at the same time knows that a society ruled only by bloodshed cannot grow. It can be the basis of goverment though.

Martok’s wife wearing the pants is one of the most delightful DS9 moments. He is hands-down the best and most multi-layered Klingon in Star Trek history. Also shout out to how DS9 constantly makes fun of worf’s one-dimensional mindset.

Couldn't resist that dig at voyager could you :p

My favorite thing about "Blood Oath" is the realization that, back in the day, Curzon Dax was probably the himbo in that crew. While the other 3 were crossing paths (and sometimes swords) with Kirk, Dax was probably counting poker chips he'd won off them the night before 😆

I don't think Kang, Koloth, and Kor just _happen_ to be best buds... I think it was _inevitable._ Each was a high ranking military commander who survived conflict with Kirk, during the height of the Klingon Empire. Surely these famous warriors would meet at some Imperial function; they would have shared experience to bond over while slamming mugs of blood wine.

Fun fact, the guy who played the Klingon Chef on DS9 is also the same person who voiced Bleeding Gums Murphy in the Simpsons.

I'm just glad you found a way to bring up the Klingon chef. There is no way he qualifies as a major Klingon character but I love that guy.

"That grape-stomping bullet-headed bastard" is a phrase that has me laughing still😂😂😂

One of the things I've always found compelling about House of Quark is how it shows the unexpected similarity of Klingon and Ferengi values. Both Quark and Grilka take it for granted that it's totally legitimate for D'Ghor to try to take what belongs to Grilka--as long as he goes about it the right way. For Grilka, this means taking it by force; for Quark, it means being clever and out-maneuvering everyone.

Love the shout-out to Ch'pok! He's one of the most interesting Klingons in the entire franchise. He wields the law like a normal Klingon warrior wields a bat'leth. (Little bit of trivia: one of Ch'pok's children appears in the role call in the DS9 episode, "Sons and Daughters". )

I always think of them as samurai space pirates

When I was a kid and watching through DS9 for the first time, my friend spoiled for me that Jadzia would die, which I was very upset about because I like Jadzia and I hate spoilers. But that gave me a unique viewing experience. When I reached 'Change of heart', I fully believed that this was it. She was going to die. The characters go through near death experiences all the time but you never expect the main cast members to actually die usually; but knowing she would eventually die made that episode WAY more tense than it would've otherwise been. And when she didn't die, I got to be overjoyed at being wrong about her demise. Honestly, being spoiled improved my enjoyment of that episode tenfold.

Just realized something. Worf was deeply connected with Martok's family. Joined his House, Martok and his Wife was represented at his wedding, but someone is missing. Martok's son. Remember him? He showed up at the first Episode of the Way of the Warrior, he and his flunkies beat up Garak, and Worf bitch slapped him and took his dagger just to get "Martok"'s attention. We never see Martok's son again. You would think that would have been an interesting story arc of his constant hostility woth Worf, chafing against him joining his house, how close he was getting with his father, maybe jealously as how Martok seemingly dotes on him more than his own son. Perhaps he could have been a turncoat to the Dominion because of it. Don't you hate it when Sons and Daughters just disappear....... BTW Worf, How's Alexander? Ever hear from him after your wedding?

What they did to Kurn was a lot crueler than killing him. I also always wondered what happened to him, once Worf got his honor back. (If I remember correctly, I even thought about that when I first saw the episode because I was certain he would get his honor back at some point.)

Dude, I love your Gowron impression… cracked up every time.

J.G. Hertzler also plays a Klingon lawyer, Advocate Kolos, in Enterprise's season 3 episode, Judgement.

Oh man. I fucking love the scene when Worf kills Gowron. That moment when he takes off his comm badge and says that Gowron is not worthy of leading…fuck. The payoff of their character development across multiple episodes is just perfect. It’s my favorite scene in all of Star Trek.

Your summary of House of Quark brought tears to my eyes. Whip-smart writing

Your thumbnail made me think youtube was recommending be a Klingon version of A Hard Days Night for half a second... it was a beautiful half a second.

Steve Shives: "It's ok to kill your favorite characters, you cowards." Also Steve Shives: "How could Worf kill Gowron!"

Your Gowron impression is actually quite good and and quite funny. Well done!

I can’t believe they did that to Kurn, especially since Worf got his honor back

Dude… Loved your Gowron impression during the ‘House of Quark’ segment!

The Gowron impression is spot on

I can forgive Kang, Kor and Koloth all knowing one another, as from TOS it seems they all were fairly prominent commanders along the same part of the frontier with the Federation at generally the same time. Given that, it is not unreasonable to assume they knew each other. A bit more implausible they are also friends, but my head cannon is that they met commiserating over losing to Kirk and bonded.

I truly hate what they did to Kurn, what a terrible end for such a cool character. At least they kept making new roles for Tony Todd through Voyager.

I LOVE your impressions of Gowron! You sound so much like him, it's eerie! It was huge shock when Worf was forced to kill him, but there was clearly no other choice. Gowron was allowing his jealousy of Martok to lead him into an unforgivable waste of the Empire's resources, both in personnel and ships. That Sisko practically ordered Worf to do it showed how much Sisko had changed, such that he gave an order to a Starfleet officer to take a direct hand in the Empire's internal politics.

The Klingons in DS9 are really interesting because it digs a bit more into the history. Plus of COURSE the time travel to TOS is fun, if that counts

Conclusions drawn from this video: 1. Steve needs to do his Gowron voice at least once per video 2. Quark is actually the best Klingon. (In case Steve says that, I typed it here before I got to that point in the video)

Talking about Quark and Grilka, I’d love to see a take on Quark’s love life. I find it interesting that he is from an extremely misogynistic society and often outwardly agrees with it yet consistently is attracted to strong, independent women. Outside of Ezri, though most of the people attracted to Ezri seem to just be transposing their love of Jadzia. But, yeah, Quark wants Ferangi women to be naked in the home and every other woman to throw him across the room.

Gagh is not the only dish on the Klingon menu, as lavishly demonstrated by Commander Riker himself in the TNG episode A Matter of Honor.

Channeled your inner Gilda Radner there with that ending "Nevermind". Great video.

I love your Gowran impersonations

I always thought the engineers in "starship down" were civilian employees and the lesson was more about the differences of dealing with people that were trained at SF academy and the people that just live and work on DS9. I always thought along the same lines that Odo's security forces were probably also bajoran citizens working a regular 9 to 5.

Ya know, there used to be a show on cable (I don’t know if it’s still going), called Sex Sent Me To The E.R. DS9 definitely had the Klingon edition locked down!

I love Worf's part in leading his ancestors to glory by farming against time.

Also, I assume this was before the news that there will in fact be a Klingon in season two.

With Worf working with Martok, he would explain why he became a governor of a small moon from the last episode of TNG. Though he can still die in the Klingon council hall, that leads to Alexander going back in time.

Is it _that_ weird that Ron Canada is from New York? The Niagara Falls are in New York state too, Ontario’s right there, they have close cultural and economic ties! That Klingon chef is lowkey my favourite side-side character on the show.

It would actually be kind of interesting if a society had a ceremonial “calling off the wedding” as part of their marriage customs. Then you could have a scene where the one person who isn’t in the know looks on in horror, thinking the wedding is actually called off.

9:00 Always hated how they handled Kurn's departure. Erasing all his memories is no different than klling the guy. It is actually worse because he had at least conscented (scratch that... demanded) a suicide in accordance to his traditions. What they did to him was to insult his beliefs and then murder him. Picard would have totally let Worf kill his brother like he should have. Worf should have just taken Kurn with him to the Enterprise on one of those random visits he always ends up doing in the TNG movies and done the ritual. Then, if anyone on DS9 asks why Kurn did not come back from the Enterprise, tell them he's living in a farm.

I forgot about poor Kurn. And I thought Troi was unethical with Jack for running out of the room and sharing his medical data with the crew. Guess it could always be worse.

I suspect the writers of Strange New Worlds may be avoiding Klingons because, depending on the canon you're following, they're either basically blackface-style TOS Klingons (thanks Enterprise and "Trials and Tribble-ations"), the controversial redesign of Discovery, or a potential continuity glitch. I imagine none of these options is particularly appetizing to SNW's writers. Also, yes Worf did have to kill Gowron. It was a Klingon battle of honor and there's no way Gowron would have yielded. You also didn't mention that Worf was under implicit orders to do so - "Do whatever it takes, Mister Worf. Those Klingon ships out there are the only thing between us and the Breen. Gowron is risking the safety of the entire Alpha Quadrant and he has to stop." While Sisko didn't tell Worf to kill Gowron, killing Gowron was well within his remit. It also made Worf one of the most significant Klingons in the Empire's recent history. EDIT: And just hours after I said that first paragraph, the season 2 trailer for SNW proves me wrong.

I can't believe you left off an entire episode of Klingons from this list! Did you just not want to go through the tribble-ations of that one?

28:00 I love this almost throwaway reveal that the Klingon military is run by bougie trust-fund bros, explains so much!

Wow, that was a really good Gowron impression.

They really need to get a good team of writers and just make a Klingon focused show. I don’t care if it’s even only a miniseries. You can have like one token human character too but they’re not the pov, they’re just kind of there early on the way Worf was at the beginning.

The poster art for this video makes my brain happy. I recognize things I know! Thanks for the video

Frankly amazing that the same day you complain about the lack of Klingons in SNW, a Season 2 trailer premieres where Spock drinks bloodwine with a bunch of them.

Ron Canada as Ch'Pok is still a great classic character for me, he was so cheeky and slimy he felt like a Romulan in Klingon's skin, Solid direction by Burton. I'm still annoyed they killed off K'Ehleyr, I felt she could've come in for some good romance triangle stuff opposite Jadzia and I still didn't like how they did Alexander dirty in this show I always felt he could've been a regular or semi-regular to contrast Ben and Jake with him and Worf and some solid shenanigans with Jake and Nog.

My favorite Martok moment is when Nog tells him to fuck off the promenade. always RIP Aron

17:45 - Wow, those enhanced pics are so uncanny/creepy at times. Please, don't stop using them, ever. Great video as always, Steve!

Oh this was such a fun tearful trip down memory lane of the 90s.

Hey Steve! Looks like someone heard ya! Just saw the SNW Season 2 teaser, and the Klingons are back! And look - they're the TMP/TNG version of the character design! I'm sure this will piss-off the "but actually..." crowd. LLAP!

As always, your Gowron impression is spot on!

Great rundown. Loved Martok, even enjoyed the Kern gets a new family storyarc :)

Damn man you're really going deep on this. Steve's deep cuts on the B side of his greatest hits album.

Ah perfect I’ve put in about 50 minutes of work, time for a *checks timestamp* 50 minute break

DS9 had a Klingon restaurant from the first season which I kinda loved.

Slight error. In the Season 4 episode Martok is not a changeling yet, as one of the scenes has him cutting his hand to drop blood to prove he isnt a changeling to Sisko and Kira. I suspect that at some point after this entire issue and Season 5 is when they replace him.

11:53 Kurn saves Worf’s life by killing the other Klingon. He had a knife hidden in his sleeve and Worf is upset that he hadn’t felt the guy intended to kill him and is worried he is losing his Klingon “spidey-sense.”

Thats a damn good Chancellor Crazy eyes impression. Well played sir, Well played indeed

Steve, I'll laugh at the expense of Klingons, but I draw the line at insulting the Klingon Chef. You know how hard it is to source quality gagh that far out in the quadrant? Have you tried the gagh they cultivate on Bajor? It tastes like iceberg lettuce soaked in Mountain Dew. Klingon Chef puts his life on the line every time he puts an order in to his suppliers to serve up an authentic gagh just like mom used to make back on Kronos.

The saddest part about the Kurn storyline is that he never gets to become a member of the House of Martok when Worf does. If only Kurn could have had more than a couple months patience.

Worf was a far better character in DS9 than he ever was on TNG.

Wow, Worf really is a terrible father; he tells "Rodek" that he has no family, apparently having forgotten about Alexander completely by this point...

That is a perfect Gowron impression.

Yesss always here for good Klingon content - thanks love youu!

As a mainenance worker, the part about not just expecting the engineers to do what they're told, you have to coddle them, is very on point for real life maintenance workers, myself included

I had no idea that Help! was originally a Klingon work?.. that’s amazing!

You go to a Klingon restaurant for the authentic ambience, as much as you go for the food.

I like listening to you talk about Star Trek.

Great vid, I like the subtler bits more than your usual

You do a spot-on Gowron impression. I am impressed. ..... No pun intended.

I wish they could have saved Kurn. Maybe they could have commissioned him as a lieutenant commander, and assigned him to be weapons officer on a ship in Starfleet.

Since Michael Dorn plays Worf grandfather in star trek 6, I wonder if he could play him again in star trek strange new worlds. perhaps as the great grandfather

Lets also note that Michel Dorn has been in more trek than any other trek actor.. whoda thunk!

Ok but can you imagine, you find some holy relic like the Holy Grail or Mjolnir or something and it turns out that it drives people crazy and start to turn on each other so you're like "nope" and you just chuck it into the ocean

Missed a trick on the Kurn bit. "Yes but in my defence he really wanted me to" should have been "Yes but in my defence he was really asking for it."

Just a few hours later and it looks like you got your wish re: Klingon in SNW

10:53 I don't normally get uncanny valley'd, but AI-ified Odo is seriously creeping me out

The Klingons *are* basically a giant Shakespeare reference . . . they constantly go around like they're in a Shakespearian tragedy or history.

Let’s not forget one of Kor’s best DS9 moments, where the writers (presumably accidentally?) had him perfectly model how to treat and care about trans friends. “Curzon, my beloved old friend!” “It’s Jadzia now” “Jadzia, my beloved old friend!”

I love Grilka so much, I named my refrigerator after her. Grilka is not the most glamorous of my named household appliances, but after 13 years of strong, economical, and proud service, I can truly state: she is magnificent!

my favorite line in any star trek. Martok said to Worf (I wouldn't give that man the gnawed bones from my last meal)

that gowron was amazing !!!

Props for the Gowron voice!!!

I like your videos. I should be working right now but I’m watching this instead. I hope you are proud of yourself. Mr complicit in my not doing my job.

Gowron: “somebody make a note of this: dishonor on you! dishonor on your cow! dishonor on your whole family!”