You just helped a 21yr old thank you

Yeah and once it starts talking it never wants to shut the hell up

what exactly do you mean by that?

@@flyingfeathers_ it means I'm older now and once it started telling me something hurt, it hasn't quit. Something different aches everyday

​@@decker528 Ngl I feel this at 23 (to be fair though I went through a whole pregnancy and gave birth so that kinda thing can mess a person up)

It doesn't do that, though. If you have weak knees and you've NEVER done anything to strengthen them, you might have an issue. But for the general population, knees over toes is typically fine.

@@HannahIrene719 so why do all the fitness trainers always warn against it?

​@@therealtulip because that used to be the theory, more recent studies have shown that to be incorrect but not everyone is updated on the science (yet)

@@HannahIrene719 Weak knees can be a result of having weak quads. Work your quads to support your knees!

@@therealtulip because those fitness trainers are either in their 40s and aren’t clued up.

You might be lacking mobility in the back, shorter hamstrings maybe. It’s not a good idea to put pressure on knee joints if you are squatting heavy. You can actually damage your knees. But on the other hand if you do specific exercises aimed at strengthening your knees, that’s when you take your knees over your toes, but smaller weights, gradual progress

It is natural!

Squat with knees over toes targets quad muscles. If you work for glutes, knees should be over ankles.

You just have a long femur, I only discovered it recently

if your knees are going past your toes theres no way youre isolating the glutes. I'm glad you found something that works for you, though. thats more important

Yeah because “your knee needs to stay in alignment with your toes”; that’s knee over toes, if you ask me but I’m not a grammar nazi.

​@@sojournerkarunatruth4406 there's a popular yt guy who promotes himself as kneesovertoesguy. Ben something. He's become quite successful taking long used weightlifting techniques that weren't well known in North America.

@@sojournerkarunatruth4406 no like it shouldn’t go too far in or out, but it can go PAST the tip of ur toes :) the only thing that’s important is that your knee is parallel to your toes vertically

​@@rockyevans1584 it's genetics I always go for far as I can with my knees And my legs never felt any pain from it

Agree with this, from experience

I always kind of assumed this simply came out of more performance based sports. We definetley have this as a rule in my martial art. Not for anything health related, but because when you go beyond your toes with your knee you have a suboptimal positionto exert force, meaning footwork will be a lot more taxing, while also being slower. No reason to avoid something more taxing for the muscle though if your goal is to tax the muscle, as long as you keep it healthy.

Tis a myth. if you want full blown proof even outside of studies, watch world-class squatters during competitions and their knees 100% go past.

How about no.

One word that proves your theory wrong: Front squats.

Knees over toe feels much more natural and balanced of a postion to me I don't feel any kind of stress regardless of what leg exercise I am doing

Oh my! That must have hurt like hell.

Sorry to hear you had that experience! However as a physical therapist, I would suggest you try to avoid generalising your experience to others. For the same reason that it’s ok to have knees over toes, it’s ok for knees to go in or out as we squat. The real problem comes from being too aggressive with loading on people/body parts that are unprepared for it. Point is you can get injured with “perfect” form just as much as you can without it.

​@@joeyhext1957 well, not "just as much" though. The reason bad form is associated with higher injury risk is that it generally puts structures under more stress. If the loading is higher, those higher stresses have a higher chance of causing injury. Some people might have different capabilities to bend, but generally speaking, bad form is still bad and should be avoided where possible.

@@tommydevine9993 so my full take is that yes, generally speaking as loads increase (be that volume, intensity or frequency) on a given structure, be that a tendon, joint capsule, ligament, meniscus or muscle fibre, the chance of an overload event goes up, that’s not especially controversial I think. Secondly, different techniques for a given lift will put different structures that are differently able to accept load, under load. So lifting with technique A is more likely to expose some tissue to loads that it can’t handle compared to technique B, because it’s loading different, stronger tissues. Again, I don’t think that’s controversial. However when it comes to general population exercise, the most important thing is consistency which means moving in a comfortable way which may lead to “suboptimal” techniques which are less biomechanically efficient and load weaker tissues. However where I tend to disagree with people is that this is ok. So long as the loads are managed appropriately, you know what you’re gonna do to those weaker tissues by progressively loading them? You’re gonna make them strong tissues. So take lumbar flexion in squats. We know that that places more force on the lumbar discs. But lumbar discs are not brake discs on a car with a limited and known service life. They are biological tissues which will strengthen and adapt to the loads they encounter. So if squatting with butt wink is comfortable for you, then do it and get strong in that movement pattern.

What do you mean smell it?

Or If you are short but have a long femur and a short torso like me, this will happen too

@@leticialuizagm exactly!

Or if you just have longer legs. I have really long calves so if i try to keep my knee in perfect alignment over my toe theres no space for me to go and it hurts!

@@leticialuizagm im short and have long torso and it still happens to me

​@@olaines9154no u just have shit mobility. Train it

Correct as long it is not hurting or in pain

Exactly

Why would they believe you? They understand the level of degradations your knee exerts on your joints everytime it goes over ur toes. Whatever study you read truly doesn't comprehend that the tip is there to reduce degradation overtime which will result in serious problems.inthe future. Absolutely no one who understands this said ur knees are incapable to go over ur toes but there is a long term cost as a result

@@joweydelanota7421 it is now reported not one boot fits all, feet and heights are not directly propotional. You may be tall due to long torso but short leg or vice versa, you may be have long feet or short feet independentof your height. There are many thing. Latest studies shows the knees going beyond your toes got nothing to do with your back injury, you will hurt more with forcing yourself not letting your knees cross the toes and taking unnatural position related to your body. We have more advanced tech compared to past years and science are discovering new things.

@@angryhooman3154 No one is here talking about back injuries. It doesn't matter how u trying to spin it. Repetitions equal degradation. Going beyond your point of flexion excessivelynin a short period of time exponentiallly increases degradation over time. It doesny matter what your body roportions are the hyperflexion still happening at a given angle relative to everything u stated and that should be the boundary when performing repetitions. So you literally contradicting yourself

@@joweydelanota7421 you will injure yourself fighting against the body unless you are exceptional case. I am not saying whatever you were saying were wrong as in the past the things u told were what everyone believe. But with time science contradicts/challenges science as we are loaded with more tech. So it doesn't matter if your knees crosses your toes. If new research comes that says otherwise.

@@angryhooman3154 I'm speaking as someone with a Bio Mechanical engineering background. The premise of whateevr research you read is misleading. Someone misunderstood the point and formed conclusions base on something that was never subject. Your knee is more than capable to go beyond it point of flexion without problem. Even if you were a hunter gatherer situations like that would be rare throughout your daily life and definitely wouldn't be a repeated isometric movement like in this video which pursues muscular mass at the expense of cartilage. This workouts are design to overload your muscle got maximum results and that means you putting exponentiallly more tension on your joints in a day than you would have hunting for a month

hahah so damn true

i agree with you, their is no issue doing knee over toe. my knee get much stronger after i followed kneeovertoeguy.

It's said because it shifts load more to the quads and you don't try to build quads while going on stairs I think 😂

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I am over 50, discovered KOTG 2 years aga and using his methodology and knee pain are gone. Also use it with my daughter who does triple jump and guess what, no knee pain.

My mom is 53, its a myth. She squats with knees over toes. The only people that shouldnt are people that already have knee issues. But the knee issues dont come from squatting with knees over toes.

@@nataliearciniega2103 she will get knee issues then be one of those people who can’t do knees over toes 🤔😂 ouch not for me.

This influencer is trained in what she does. She hasn't got her knowledge from whatsapp or Google university. So research yourself before calling people out like that.

@@calltothesky2880 “this influencer is trained in what she does” 😂😂😂😂 ok then I better listen to her! 🤦🏼‍♀️

Very true

Yup, she need to delete this video, I can already see people getting hurt following this “myth” lol

Yes but its not true, not true at all.

If you're seeing a traumatologist then i hazard a guess you're already injured. Knees over toes is fine for the general population. Thats literally what happens when you front squat.

I’ve had knee injuries my entire life through sport and they improved when I changed my mobility and have my knees over my toes. It all depends on your OWN body and what it’s capable of. If you don’t want to go past your toes then don’t, but this is safe and improves your mobility a lot.

I suggest you try to get stronger with time and try as much as posssible or almost never pass Your knees over your toes, you will most likely get hurt .

Wrong. It's like people forget front squats exist, your knees have to go over your toes in a front squat, so it's fine for other movements too.

Nah

I hold the deep squat almost every day for about 10-15 mins I always go far as I can with my knees And I have been doing this since I was kid And I have never experienced even a small injury It's just genetics just because your genetics are different it dosen't mean it applies to everyone

Ya but how many views do they have on YT? (lol but seriously, 1 PT and 3 Athletic Trainers have told me otherwise as well. So, going with the be nice to the knees, don't push past the toes message from qualified professionals)

If your knees don’t go over your toes it puts more strain on the lower back. Bc of my actual bone structure if I tried to keep my knees from going over my toes a squat would be impossible bc I’d always fall over. Not every professional knows everything & if they tell you something for your own specific and personal benefit they won’t explain it every other alternative to you either bc it’s a waste of time. One source is never the answer

Clearly you have never done a front squat, because that's literally what happens. Can't believe people still follow this logic.

​@@MissLissaDreamsUr PT is chatting total bs

U should get Ur knees over Ur toes

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I’ll say one thing for sure, don’t listen to this woman.

It depends just squat naturally If ur knees automatically go over toes Then there's nothing wrong with it However if it stays then ur body is probably not strong enough or have good genetics

Wrong

That's wrong as well

Ur physical therapist is wrong

Everyone one is different Listen to the body not. Anyone else

Did you ever end up finding them?

@@candaceh2662 no

False. Do you know what a front squat is? 😂