Stopping the Aggressor: The Just War with R.C. Sproul

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@ligonier Жыл бұрын

This message is from Dr. Sproul’s 2-part teaching series The Just War. Watch the entire series: www.ligonier.org/learn/series/the-just-war

@lb476 Жыл бұрын

The sad part is knowing this is just the beginning of what we all knew was coming in the end times. As a baby boomer I've seen some major changes, but nothing like we see today. God help the generations who refuse to turn to Jesus' narrow path.

@rhondae8222 Жыл бұрын

Amen!

@iuk4280 Жыл бұрын

I have had this question in my mind recently. Thank God for this.

@rhondae8222 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing the late Dr R.C. Sprouls' biblical teachings. Praise God (Christ). 😊

@Robert-is5dz Жыл бұрын

Both Thomas Aquinas and St Augustine commented on Just war as a right for nations to declare war in self defence.

@davekpghpa Жыл бұрын

This is a perfect example of why those who are preaching the Word should be extremely careful when they delve into the political/ military realm. A very high level of discernment needs to be applied when considering the fact that the information given to us by our political and military leadership almost entirely consist of men and women who are beholden to the influence and payoffs from the military industrial complex. Looking back at the attack mentioned by RC, we now know there was a great deal of deception given by the leadership of that time in order to come into that 90% approval for the misdirected retaliation the USA perpetrated. Perhaps the 5% who opposed the war were the only ones exercising that high level of discernment.

@steffym2594 Жыл бұрын

Yeah this video was a non starter for me after the first 30 seconds, as much as I love RCS.

@davekpghpa Жыл бұрын

@@steffym2594 Agreed, Steffy. I said "oh, no" early on in this one. I do still love R C too.

@HearGodsWord Жыл бұрын

The joys of hindsight 🙄

@davekpghpa Жыл бұрын

@@HearGodsWord Or, the God given gift of discernment and the careful and prayerful exercise of that gift.

@HearGodsWord Жыл бұрын

@@davekpghpa you actually used hindsight as part of your argument.

@DebRoo11 Жыл бұрын

As i recall, many in the no retaliation camp, also already knew/believed the 'terrorist attack' was an inside job and had more to it. I would of been for retaliating against those truly responsible.

@kevinclint7588 Жыл бұрын

SERVE OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST WITH ALL THINE HEART,……SOUL,……MIND,……AND STRENGHT,………AMEN TO THAT ❤

@damianwhite504 Жыл бұрын

very wise man

@johnteko1674 Жыл бұрын

Where in new testament is support the just war (2) Can you show me were the apostles can self defense them self in the persecution

@angloaust1575 Жыл бұрын

Obviously turning the other cheek Is only applicable in certain situations Or walking the second mile Or if one asks for your coat Give them your shirt as well!

@DogSoldier1948 Жыл бұрын

The slap (or the “smiting,” as the KJV has it) does not have to involve literal, physical violence. Even in our day, a “slap in the face” is a metaphor for an unexpected insult or offense. I don't see anywhere in the bible That prevents one from protecting themselves are family.

@toughbiblepassages9082 Жыл бұрын

@@DogSoldier1948 Exactly. Every time the Bible teaches against revenge in the Old Testament AND the New, it is referring to sins of the heart- matters concerning jealousy, grudges, slander etc.. it never teaches one to not fight back when physically attacked.

@kriegjaeger Жыл бұрын

And some of them have more context, as we saw on turning the other cheek. On giving your coat, the context was if you were accused/sued and someone demanded your coat (meaning you were convicted of the accusation) then give them your shirt as well (Truly work to make amends). One can also assume this is from a just judge and judicial process as well. Not if falsely accused (which is a commandment not to bear false witness) and in an unjust system. Walking the second mile is hard to figure a modern context for. But if asked or even compelled to work, use the time to spread the gospel with those you are forced to work with and do a good job of what you were asked or compelled to do.

@toughbiblepassages9082 Жыл бұрын

@@kriegjaeger I love this interpretation of yours.

@kriegjaeger Жыл бұрын

@@toughbiblepassages9082 Thank you!

@kriegjaeger Жыл бұрын

Thank you for this! Even today you can see backhanding someone as an insult. An invitation to fight, but not actually fighting in itself. If someone were to be knocked out with a backhand, it would be an incredible gesture of dominance/shame, not something admired like an uppercut or hook. I had been questioning on wars and defense as well and it seems to me most sources agree there are no just wars. Defense is permissible, but it seems to me that MEN do not start wars. KINGS start wars where they send men to slaughter one another for the benefit of kings. Or in the contemporary, oligarchs. Men may fight, but rarely if ever do they war. It takes a certain kind of 'leadership' to start a war of people who know nothing about one another aside from the other guy wearing the wrong uniform to murder one another.

@grafxgrl8030 Жыл бұрын

All war is not evil, otherwise God could not have commanded it repeatedly in the OT. War against evil is just and righteous, and will be so again as God releases and defeats Satan again at the end of time. The same holds true for man; otherwise we should not bother prosecuting pedophiles, rapists, murderers, thieves etc. God gave us the principles and examples in Scripture to guide us. He is still speaking through His Word.

@Splinter.S 5 ай бұрын

RC vs LC. Nice.

@johnteko1674 Жыл бұрын

Those are political people in the church confusing the saints

@i-changeus Жыл бұрын

These days of tyrannical govt's etc... why bother fighting the corruption? Well, RC paints the picture well, when the bear threatens you and you start to fear for your life, action is justified. God created all alive at the moment for such a time as this, and we have to take every thought captive to avoid getting into a trap of fear (so easy if you turn on the tv) but have to share the Gospel and just obey ( I am preaching to myself as well!) And trust the results to God. God is still on the throne, and searching the hearts of men who are sold out for him!

@davekpghpa Жыл бұрын

Amen! We know God is not saying to himself, "oh, my... I never expected this to happen. What should I do now?" We have an almighty sovereign God. The knowledge f that is just one of the many things that gets me through this fallen world.

@Tadneiko 10 ай бұрын

Where's the next session?

@rickycarnell8493 Жыл бұрын

need to really be care full when you are talking about this just war theory. I personally don't buy it ,

@HearGodsWord Жыл бұрын

There were just wars in the Bible.

@kriegjaeger Жыл бұрын

There are just wars, but god himself commanded them. And even then, humans tended to make a mess of it. The Israelites were commanded to drive out the Canaanites but instead took slaves and eventually generations of those people influenced the culture of Israel. I would say be careful about "Defensive" wars as people stretch the definition to "pre-emptive strikes" which is to say, starting wars as the aggressor claiming to be defending yourself.

@rickycarnell8493 Жыл бұрын

@@kriegjaeger I understand about the O.T. I'm talking about the just war theory that Constantine started , that is still used today , just to be clear

@andershilmo1866 Жыл бұрын

@@kriegjaeger I agree. Many nations have used the preemptive strike as an excuse for defense. Which makes more nations distrustful and more enemies with more strikes.

@StokesCheri 5 ай бұрын

@@kriegjaegerIsrael didn't need the Canaanites around to influence them! 😂🐂